Silent Hill 2 Remake - We've Played It On PS5!

[@MeCrazy516]

pyramid head was never satisfying to land hits on, i dont think he is supposed to be...in the OG you just got a clank and you had no idea if you were even hurting it

[@1theprince1]

Well... it makes sense once you understand what it means to James.

[@wrathofthegods4739]

You can run in circles in the og silent hill 2 first boss battle with pyramid head near the watery stairwell and he’ll eventually leave further proving the point.

[@MeCrazy516]

@@1theprince1 it does, but people tend to crtisize things that are intentional cause of the story, even pyramids animations which seem to be jank and missing frames on purpose cause thats how it moves

[@rubeesharma4316]

I really think not being to deduce whether it hurts him or not was the point of the figt

[@wrathofthegods4739]

@@rubeesharma4316 it was pyramid head is a manifestation of James’s guilt and suffering and the bad side of him James can’t kill his guilt only push it away until he finally confronts it the fights are all symbolic

[@yungfella666]

It’s funny how the fog was originally used to compensate for hardware and now the hardware can’t handle it perfectly without frame drops lmao

[@PKM1010]

I mean the fog in the original was literally just not rendering things. Here it's rendering both the fog, and the map.

[@wamba2097]

There's a huge difference in shading a few dozen triangles to hide a very short draw distance and volumetric fog that moves and actually fills space, lmao

[@TrevorFosterTheFosterDojo]

still he didnt mean that he knows that

[@dreamplace7469]

@@PKM1010 Thats not true. its a 2d fog texture as an overlay. there is also noise that governs where the fog goes, and there is a particle system for some of the fog.

[@javonjames4573]

I hope that people don't start complaining about the fog in a Silent Hill game

[@PKM1010]

What gave me a lot of hope in this studio is seeing the map system, the option not to pinpoint items (James will look at them instead,) and the reflection in the car during the gameplay presentation (It wasn't James.)

[@stephenearly4057]

Glad the game has come around. It looks much much better than it did even a few months back. Can’t wait

[@petebagwell6666]

It's funny they actually changed alot of stuff from previous trailer

[@Jekoza]

I badly wanna hear John Linneman thoughts and opinions on this remake because he actually love and played the Silent Hill series

[@Stefantius]

I'm sure he'll be a part of the review however it manifests

[@suwooshi]

was about to say this

[@goldensperm7182]

​@@Stefantius I hope that he will be the final boss

[@cbgg1585]

These guys are more than credible with or without John (as much as I love the guy)

[@Jekoza]

@@cbgg1585Oh I’m cool with them, it’s just that John has a lot of knowledge and experience with the Silent Hill series

[@Zoombeanie132]

Original Silent Hill 2 has aged extremely well for what it was going for. I played it for the first time last year and loved it. Its timeless, and honestly I don't think any survival horror games (aside from maybe sh3) have reached its heights. The game never goes for cheap scares and every monster encounter ties directly with the character's mental state. Its themes are heavy af and the sound design is so so good! Sure the combat is jank, but it always was, even for the time. But it was never the point, if anything James being bad at combat adds tension.

[@countquackula8539]

I think he meant the combat.

[@Zoombeanie132]

@@countquackula8539 Whether it was intentional or not the jank combat is part of the special sauce for that game though. If it had fluid and responsive controls there would be way less tension. It feels like you are actually playing as someone who's not all there, same for sh1 and 3 btw.

[@countquackula8539]

@Zoombeanie132 Well, I think their doing the same thing with the remake. The combat does look a bit awkward, but overall, I'm excited for this new game. I stopped playing Silent Hill after Homecoming.

[@Zoombeanie132]

Yeah, i'm also interested, even though Bloober team doesn't have the greatest track record. I really hope they don't change the narrative and characters too much just to appeal to modern audiences. The game is supposed to be dreamlike, and the performances should reflect that. ​@countquackula8539

[@petebagwell6666]

The original was way too easy, you didnt even need the gun and always had way too much ammo ​@@Zoombeanie132

[@chrisbee1984]

No offense to either of you here but I think it would have helped a bit more if you were both versed in Silent Hill 2 or at least one of you could have held this perspective.

[@fumz02]

I agree. Same. No offense but saying that the Pyramid fight in the OG was just Pyramid Head getting bored and leaving was just wrong. lol the siren called it back. It was a timed survival encounter.

[@CruciallyUltrawide]

What I really like about Silent Hill 2 Remake's graphics is that the environment seem to be very grounded to reality. I find that Bloober Team are very good at creating really nicely detailed worlds with close to photorealistic elements in atmosphere, assets and colors they use. When James walks from the parking lot through the path in the woods, it looks really natural and reminds me a lot of the paths I can walk myself around in my area where I live. Animations can seem a bit lackluster and even though they're doing a decent job, the animations seem to vary a bit in terms of believability and fluidity Combat seems to be improved but still looks clunky. Either way I'm very much looking forward to this, from what I've seen I am quite impressed with what they've been able to achieve. Crossing my fingers the game overall is good when it comes out 😄

[@deebonash1495]

This comment. Yes, even the fog , the tunnel and steps. All looked Like places I've walked. Very realistic

[@Herpusderpus]

Also, is it even a Silent Hill game without some level of clunky combat?

[@undisclosedsteve6361]

I think the Alan Wake 2 guys also did a great job of this exact same thing too, I love that subtle natural lighting.

[@MvbnFhfg]

I am so excited for this game

[@javonjames4573]

Same here

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

Same

[@fisherj5087]

@Tacitus_kilgore_1903SH2 is my fav game. It was never “perfect” lol

[@rubeesharma4316]

​@Tacitus_kilgore_1903nothing has been changed rest easy

[@MrJekken]

@Tacitus_kilgore_1903 hopefully in this context modern audience refers solely to expectations in terms of graphics and controls and not the other kind

[@Cptraktorn]

the issue of combat in this game is quite difficult to handle well, people wont like it if it doesnt play well but at the same time the combat isnt meant to feel good.

[@ChaseSchleich]

The landscape has changed. Their competition isn't blocky characters with tank controls anymore. Players will compare Silent Hill to Resident Evil so Silent Hill has to be able to stand up to those games. If the combat doesn't feel good, people will run the game into the ground. The thing is, people said the same shit about Resident Evil 2. "It's supposed to be slow, it's supposed to have bad controls, it's supposed to have pre-rendered single image backgrounds,it's supposed to have the slow door opening animations. People didn't think it would feel like Resident Evil without those PS2 era "features." Resident Evil wouldn't be in the middle of its popularity renaissance right now if Capcom had kept those things from the old games. Sure, they'd satisfy the handful of core players who've been playing since the original, but to be successful and profitable, they needed to attract a new audience. That's what Silent Hill is attempting as well. I still have my doubts that Bloober Team was the right studio for the job, but we'll see.

[@SpookyDollhouse]

@@ChaseSchleich lmao

[@fluidthought42]

​@@ChaseSchleich Thing is, Resident Evil 2 remake and hell even Resident Evil: Village have combat systems that are way more awkward than say Gears of War. And Silent Hill is still supposed to be more focused on creating an atmosphere that isn't conducive to a power fantasy. It's like making open combat as viable as stealth in a stealth game, it fundamentally changes the balance and without massive reworking it undermines the game's other experiences. Lord knows we've had many stealth game series where they added so much action that it lost its way. Even outside of stealth the origin Resident Evil games after 4 grew more and more combat bloated until one campaign basically became Left 4 Dead.

[@steel5897]

This is such a meme, I always roll my eyes when people bring it up. You can make combat "not feel good" by means other than making it mechanically awful to control, there are tons of ways. For example combat can feel "bad" because you have limited resources and trying to run and gun enemies is certain death, so if you feel like you are always barely hanging on then that by itself will make you dread combat. Dead Space 1 at the hardest difficulty is a good example of this, and even the RE4 remake when played on Professional on a new save will make you want to engage in combat in as little as possible due to how stacked the odds are against you. Not saying SH2 remake will do this though, it's Bloober, not Capcom, they're not known for their finely tuned game design.

[@maxwellsamuel3255]

@@ChaseSchleichthe difference is RE is an Action/Horror game with clunky Action Heros which doesn’t really make sense, but Silent Hill is a Psychological/ Horror game with a weak Incompetent human being who have no clue what’s going on around them.

[@IrishJohn33]

6:12 it's like that cause it's raining.

[@2ndGear]

Beware the invisible rain lol. To them at least.

[@huzidamasta]

That might be the cause of the issue, but that's obviously an issue. It looks wrong

[@facuuaf]

Probably should've given this one to John

[@godnamedtay]

Uhhh yea, I’m sayin. Jesus Christ what a worthless and pointless bs video. Waste of time.

[@matiasmoreno3562]

My eyes rolls up every time i hear "modern audiences" .

[@2ndGear]

Translates to Gen Z approved right?

[@ZPSBestProfileName]

dead. fml real talk vibing wit this game rn iykwim. idc wat any1 sez

[@normcollison2659]

@@ZPSBestProfileName fr fr on god, no cap

[@ChrisAverageYT]

I know it would be a huge performance hit, but I wish they made the fog visible in the reflections. In other UE5 games it doesn't stand out that much, but in SH2 the use of fog is so heavy, that the clear reflections of stuff that should be completely obscured by fog is really jarring.

[@TerryRed]

yah, its noticeable, but like you said it would be a huge hit on FPS to a point of being unplayable on PS5. Maybe PC will give you more extreme settings but even then its not the easiest thing to pull off correctly. Even Hellblade 2 had compromises in their reflections.

[@ChrisAverageYT]

@@TerryRed Yea, I wonder if a simple distance based fog in the reflections, even as a post-process, could be enough to mask the obvious discrepancy.

[@terellkid1]

Guys they have a PS5 Pro already. You know digital foundry signs embargo's left and right

[@kavid8120]

You’re smoking vast amounts of Fentanyl if you believe that 😂😂

[@terellkid1]

@@kavid8120 you do realize they already had the series X or S before release right? Along with a few other consoles, they either had or were allowed to see in private. When release day comes they usually make a video admitting that they have already seen it/have it and played it but weren’t allowed to talk about it until release day, and then that’s when they release their review video. I didn’t just pull that out of my ass, I said it because they’ve done this before already 😂😂😂

[@mightyhadi6132]

Yes it's possible or at least they have already the specs or made a contact with insider from Sony it self's. .

[@watchmehope6560]

​@@kavid8120ten days later, and OP was right. You look stupid lol

[@dionmose3136]

They brought back the blue mailboxes from sh1 nice touch

[@Ozziw162]

The point being made that SH2 doesn’t hold up graphically/technologically compared to MGS3 seems strange to me. On PS2, SH2 ran at 60fps, with the fog creating a great effect and atmosphere while simultaneously making sure the game ran smoothly. Even the prerendered cut-scenes played back at 60fps, which to me seems miraculous, given the limitations. The murky art direction and dark environments coupled with the heavy grain filter hide some less attractive aspects well and the dynamic shadows create some stellar results. MGS3 on the other hand, while technically more ambitious, suffers greatly from obvious low res-textures which aren’t able to hide behind darkness and filters, and the frame rate regularly dipped below 30. **Edit** I was corrected that the original release actually ran at 30 in gameplay. I still hold the opinion that it has aged better than MGS3, but that is entirely subjective.

[@ekidonalangley8588]

This video should be taken with a massive mountain of salt since both Tom and Olie admitted that they have very little experience with/knowledge of the original game.

[@TerryRed]

SH2 did not run at 60 fps on PS2. It was 30 fps for PS2 and XBOX. Your CRT TV ran in interlaced mode which can give the impression of a smoother frame rate... but it did not run at 60 fps. Only the PC Enhanced Edition allowed 60 fps (and only within the last year or two). SH2 on PS2 also had vertex lighting instead of shaded per pixel lighting (like PC and XBOX had). SH3 on PS2 had the same lighting limitations. So for the PS2 version, yes those versions did not age well in some regards technically... but not in art direction (though some textures are really low resolution). For their day though, it was amazing. I still remember it 23 years ago.

[@Ozziw162]

@@TerryRed You are correct, actual gameplay did run at 30, while the prerendered cutscenes were 60. Don’t know if I got it mixed up with MGS2, which did run at 60, or if I just remembered the cutscenes running at 60 and applied it to the actual game, but regardless, SH2 on PS2 ran at 30 in gameplay. But I still think the shadows were hugely impressive, even though the actual light cast upon the environments were utilising per vertex shading. It was, and still remains a technical feat, especially in regards to those hugely impressive amounts of alpha transparency. It even got the original Xbox beat in that regard, which had severely cut down fog effects. And actually playing it, I think it holds up better than MGS3, but that may be (absolutely is) entirely subjective.

[@jeanbethencourt1506]

Should be compared more to MGS2 Sons of Liberty, imo. MGS3 was already iterated on by Kojima when he added the 3rd person option. Konami is just adding new graphics over Kojima's previous work. SH2, on the other hand was designed solely around mostly-fixed camera angles.

[@blinkspacestudio8892]

Visually - This game is perfect for me already. The fog actually looks real, the water reflections are so so good too. There is nothing in the trailers that I dont like. This is a full price purchase for me absolutely.

[@huzidamasta]

I agree apart from the water reflections, as demonstrated and discussed at 6:07. I'm extremely excited about this game and I'll absolutely buy it as soon as it's out, but the water reflections are a little flickery and pixilated, to the point where it was noticeable to me without me looking for it.

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

Lumen Global illumination should’ve been used in the 60fps performance mode instead of reflections because the lighting is far more important than reflections in a game like this. The PlayStation 5 is capable of 60fps with global illumination if the devs spend the necessary time fully optimizing taking full advantage of the PS5 hardware but it seems as though they aren’t gonna spend the time, and effort to optimize to include global illumination in the performance mode. Regardless they could’ve substituted in the global illumination instead of reflections in the Performance mode at the least but they could do both if they put forth the effort to fully optimize.

[@ekidonalangley8588]

Why didn't you let John handle this one? Y'all said the IGN buyout didn't affect DF but I don't know, this one has me questioning if it did. 9:00 Silent Hill 2 had one single "jumpscare moment," and it was when Laura plays the piano randomly in the Hotel cafeteria at the end of the game. Any other jumpscare that appears in Silent Hill 2 remake is 100% a new addition by Bloober, because Bloober has a bad habit of thinking "oh, jumpscare scary." Silent Hill 2 was a departure from the first game, and therefore did not feature jumpscares like the first game did. Not a shock to hear Bloober has problems with performance. It's a classic Bloober game staple: every Bloober game has performance issues. Combat still looks very rough. Some of the animations look janky in a way that the original game did not. In the original game, fights with Pyramid Head were never about combat. You never had to do damage to Pyramid Head. Only Pyramid Head could kill Pyramid Head. 15:14 "make use of the first person camera" Uh, Tom? You mean Over the Shoulder camera?

[@michalbrnoliak5992]

What? I'm playing the original SH2 game right now and there are definitely some jumpscares appearing here and there.. man, I know jumpscares usually suck big time but you can still make some effective jumpscares - my favorite movie of all time is The Thing remake by John Carpenter and that movie still has some jumpscares, some more effective then others but still Do not dismiss the jumpscares in the SH2 remake just because of some bad examples.. I for example saw the first whole hour of the remake and there wasn't a single jumpscare added by the Bloober team... stop hating something from blind hatred which you are doing in your comment .. right now the remake looks like the perfect remake of an old, janky, horror game made for modern times but still feeling like nothing else releasing in our times

[@adazedgamer]

There's definitely more than one jumpscare. There is 2 in the prison alone.

[@adazedgamer]

@@ekidonalangley8588 you also prolly haven't played it in a while if you don't think animations from the OG weren't janky. The apartment scene when James is in the closet that cutscene contains easily 45 seconds of janky PH dance animations. The original has aged well I agree but to say it didn't have jank or doesn't need improvement is just ignorant. I've played thru Sh2 easily a dozen times. I'm actually in the middle of a playthrough right now. You're just wearing thick nostalgia goggles.

[@ekidonalangley8588]

@@michalbrnoliak5992 perhaps I should have clarified. Jumpscares as in jumpscares with an obnoxiously loud audio cue. There is only one, and its in the Hotel.

[@ekidonalangley8588]

@@adazedgamer I just finished the game yesterday for like the 80th time. Not a single place in my comment do I complain about the animations of Pyramid Head, those are supposed to look erratic and jagged because that is how it is supposed to move. I also never said that it did not need any improvements. Minor QoL fixes are absolutely appreciated when they do not effect the identity or gameplay of a remake of a beloved classic game. If you had read my comment, my complaint about the "janky animations" in the remake was specifically referring to James' combat animations and how the blending values appear to be too fast leading to what looks like a janky animation. Something that Olie himself brought up, I was literally agreeing with him.

[@paolo2696]

Great discussion, and fair play to Blooper for taking on what could have been a thankless task. It looks like they've done a great job so I can't wait to play it.

[@cory2016]

It shows me it will be perfect 10 out 10. The fog looks so much better. It does every but better

[@countquackula8539]

As long as the combat feels survival horror and it's got good replay value. It's fine by me.

[@juancarlosalonso5664]

Looks great, I’m glad they added some content and new puzzles to have some surprises, can’t wait.

[@derekb4977]

Boycott this game now.

[@Croovytrain]

Why ​@@derekb4977

[@kavid8120]

We’re honestly being too picky and a perfectionist guys. Just enjoy the game. Who cares if some parts look weird. The majority of the game looks fantastic. Just play it and ignore the small stuff.

[@Dad_Life13]

Not when it’s presented as triple A game, but that’s your money

[@gothpunkboy89]

@@Dad_Life13 Why? Show me an indie title that gets as close to AAA in scope, scale and graphics.

[@ekidonalangley8588]

@@kavid8120 we care because we love the game. It is such a phenomenal game and we want new players to experience that, the way it was originally presented. Some people cant handle old graphics or whatever, but if the remake is very different from the original, how can the old heads even talk about it with the new people? Its completely different at that point. And the new people say they like it, but the old heads like me know that its not even close to the same. It feels ruined, soured in that situation. That is why we complain about even seemingly small or insignificant stuff. Because we love it and we want it to be as good as it can be, not because we hate it or want it to fail.

[@jesusdiaz270]

All opinions can be respected. Saying SH2 has not aged well is a wrong opinion.

[@Dad_Life13]

I’ll believe a person who’s knowledgeable in this than a random on youtube

[@jesusdiaz270]

@@Dad_Life13 That's a valid option. Both Tom and me are not knowledgeable enough. Form your own opinion by playing the game, but at least I have experience with OG SH2 while Tom seems to guess things based on the genre and the time it released instead of having playing it. Saying "all the same jumpscares are still there" is telling because... there's one jumpscare in the whole game, and calling it a jumpscare is a stretch. This man has no knowledge of SH2 and it shows.

[@Dad_Life13]

@@jesusdiaz270 I think he’s enough for me to believe and coming from a reputable channel which 95% of the time they’re correct from my experience watching them throughout these past few years

[@GabagoolOvaher]

@@Dad_Life13”knowledgeable” lmfao

[@Dad_Life13]

@@GabagoolOvaher I find this people who use slang like “lmfao” less knowledgeable

[@enigma7791]

That DF graphic, before your videos and at the end, is so great guys! Congrats whoever made that.

[@plume...]

Tom and Ollie were both great in this clip, but I think Ollie took a fantastic lead in asking questions and replying to the answers. You were both right too in that the gunplay/combat looks "soft" or "muggy". It didn't look "snappy". I understand that this is an incredibly tough area for Bloober to balance though. It seems like a great version so far. Good clip both

[@robdoomguy8952]

People say silent hill 2 is reccomended to play on hard and you fight hordes of monsters especially in the hospitals 😱😱

[@SergeiKraven]

I don't understand why people compare this to Resident Evil. The main protagonist is not specifically trained in combat, so it does make sense as to why he would struggle during an altercation, this definitely adds more weight and tension to his character, this is a survival horror game, I don't want to feel invisible, I want to feel vulnerable and helpless.

[@petebagwell6666]

Tbf Leon shouldn't of been half as good as he was in the first game

[@SergeiKraven]

@@petebagwell6666 Leon was trained in combat if you had followed his lore, he's not your typical average guy, he's a bio-terror intelligence officer who works for his country. This means he was trained at the highest level of government, for national security purposes.

[@SergeiKraven]

@@petebagwell6666 Comparing James to Leon is not realistically competitive. James has no expertise in combat, that's why it makes you feel hopeless, and vulnerable, I would even love more attention to detail, to where if I'm shooting as James, he becomes overwhelmed by each bullet he shoots his target at, that adds allot of tension to the overall experience. Also, the Silent Hill franchise always had a dull mechanic to it, lol. That's the point of the game, you are just a vulnerable human being, vulnerable to enemies.

[@watchmehope6560]

​@@SergeiKravenyou misread. ROOKIE LEON shouldn't be as good as he was.

[@bluedrop00]

I think someone is focusing too much on "modern audience" things. IMO because this is a remake of old school, using a term of modern audience to indicate players in this new era is make sense enough to me.

[@Johna_B]

Kombat iz not az RE remake. Why do people have to point that out? IT NEVER SHOULD BE LIKE THAT. RE combat is ridiculous. Shoot in the head and flying kicks, no thank you. Only things that worry me is the frame drops and the door opening animations.

[@TerryRed]

Also, RE games don't have actual dynamic melee combat... they have QTE finishers with over the top moves (like you said). While some of the animation in SH2-R seems to have some jank to it (a good thing for some people, bad for others).. the melee combat is perfectly suited for what a SH game should have and is way better and more fun than any RE game imo.

[@Mr.Honest247]

If you listen to the video, they’re mainly talking about RE2 Remake which didn’t have flying kicks but more straight forward shooting survival horror gameplay. That’s definitely a legit comparison.

[@Johna_B]

@@Mr.Honest247I listened to the whole video. RE is another genre. Hate that comparison.

[@TerryRed]

@@Mr.Honest247 The gunplay... for sure that's a fair comparison, but also not a 1:1 considering a large portion is SH2-R's combat is melee and not as much focused on gun play. Also, SH2-R purposely makes it harder to shoot (it doesn't just rest into one spot when aiming)... whereas RE makes it super easy in comparison. Two different approaches. RE is more action-like... SH is more desperate survival.

[@ofmachines3]

@@TerryRedtrue James isn’t trained lol and making it hard to shoot makes it so awesome

[@GuiFoxJus]

This conversation is too high level damn you guys are good.

[@AbelMusa]

If you'd told me this guy was Todd Howard's son I would've believed you.

[@huzidamasta]

6:07 glad he mentioned this because it's the one thing I noticed that bugged me slightly

[@2ndGear]

@11:30 10 star ranking requires you to kill 150 foes. 75 melee 75 shooting. Team Silent definitely encouraged combat. It just wasn’t too great. There was plenty of ammo for dealing with the indoor enemies, but not killing everyone in the overworld. Down a monster with a gun and kick them via action button. Kicks and stomps were the strongest attacks in the game doing 9999 damage. I spent too much time on this game making a massive cheat table for it to learn all this.

[@matiasmoreno3562]

19:00 it wasnt because it wasnt possible, it was because it had a porpouse.

[@StreetfighterTips]

One of my favorite games of all time. Played the OG on xbox.

[@JNEZ25]

13:13 Homie was thinking so hard, that Strabismus hit.

[@baddunwell2306]

lmfao

[@JvanEdits]

wtf HAHAHAH

[@gooneybird808]

This and mgs seem so awesome. It says a lot about what games where and how they felt compared to today.

[@NathanFrank-n9d]

Their is a way to display James being a noob in combat will making it look good mechanically with better animations if that makes sense... The combat technically is not great as they discussed here (when I say great I mean at displaying James as a noob but still have fluidity and good animations) but it's not terrible either. I've been a silent hill fan for 16 years but the original combat was not great either at displaying what I mentioned above and it seems blooper are struggling to find that balance as well, let's hope they pull it off along with better animations and facial animations as well.

[@will891410]

Fort candidate to game of the year premium trophy.

[@SHEGradon]

Expecting Bloober Team, who have never done real combat before, and have been mostly indie up until recently, to produce anything like Dev 1 at Capcom and their decades of experience is kidding themselves. I think what Bloober appear to have produced thus far looks great. Not getting my hopes up too high, but still looking forward to it.

[@user-ze4hy2po5i]

Thats why they should have handed over to some other company whom haa AAA experience

[@SHEGradon]

@user-ze4hy2po5i other than them having a background in horror, it was an odd choice by Konami - but its too late now; let's just hope they pull it off. But anyone expecting the mechanical quality of the Resident Evil remakes is setting themselves up for disappointment, I think.

[@YNGDYE]

I doubt anyone would have thought the studio who worked on Skylander ports and Guitar Hero sequels would knock it out the park with Diablo 2 Resurrected.

[@JvanEdits]

You should focus on giving reviews about the performance, which is what your channel is about, not lame opinions about narrative or how it compares to the original.

[@djkoz78]

I've never played the original silent hill 2 but i KNOW FOR SURE it's exactly the same. Both the people talking about this game.

[@MelioraSR]

Does the game feature motion/gyro aiming options for when using guns?

[@user-Phil841]

gosh it looks amazing, the graphics are there, can't wait to play it

[@davidlunalozano1074]

4:02 He is very like Michael Beck from the Warriors 😅

[@benmcreynolds8581]

(Many people are acting like any criticism is Toxic criticism~BUT~Praising everything like it's perfect is ALSO Toxic in some ways) *For me the overall tone such as The dialog, the voice acting seems off. The attitudes & vibes of each character & their personalities don't fit. It sounds like they don't understand the characters or how to achieve the correct tone throughout the game. I hope it will be good. I'm just worried this game will treat us like children tho. With hand holding gameplay. Button prompts, Toned down storytelling, you name it. Hopefully they don't go that direction where "they don't want to make people too uncomfortable" because this game is meant to make people uncomfortable. If they aren't okay with creating an uncomfortable, inappropriate game then they really picked the wrong team to make a game such as this. The movement seems really stiff, it's like the character isn't interacting with their environment. I'm ok with changing the camera but I don't see why they couldn't adjust the camera for particular locations tho.. that effect can really convey particular things thru particular perspectives.. I wish the fog was more intense, dense. I wish the dark was more intense, oppressive, forcing you to rely on your flashlight immensely & your radio. I'm okay with them making some changes. There are ways many things can be changed and still hold the same core of this game. I hope they find ways to achieve that. (it is annoying how divided and out of control a lot of people are getting. I wish things weren't so weirdly divided. Then some counter the critical people with a sorta Toxic Positivity. I wish valid criticism could be heard and addressed. It will be nice if things can chill out and we can get back to being able to critique things in a healthy way again lol)

[@TerryRed]

The remake will offer options to turn off all the modern HUD / indicators / effects so you can have it the same as the original with no HUD or visual indicators and only James head looking at items of interest.

[@rubeesharma4316]

Uhh bro atleast do some research before complain every single UI can be turned off in this gamr

[@godnamedtay]

WHO ARE THESE CLOWNS? I’m tired of hearing people talking about this game who never played the original nor give af let alone have any legit experience with silent hill. These losers talking about nonsense that has nothing to do with SH. This is complete bs from digital foundry. wtf is going on here John???

[@Exorcist.7L7]

Can't wait to see how optimized this game is

[@JvanEdits]

wondering the same, i hope that the version DF played is not the final one, this game cannot have drops below 60, for the love of god

[@STANDIEMCSTILLE]

Yeah i think we can nitpik, but overall this is gonna be a homerun. Bloober really showing not believers that they do have the chops to play with the big boys. This is commendable and I do feel they took this project with care, respect and they tired their very best , to make it the best game they could. I hope they get to make all the other SH games in a remake, sh1 and sh3 and maybe even the room. They have shown they can do it. Now we should just let them cook.

[@satnav1980]

I could never understand the story to Silent Hill. I was too young and I found it to be too cryptic. Although back in the day I always was impressed with the graphics and the tension it brought as you went through the town.

[@baronobeefdip5870]

I thought that was a young Tod Howard for a sec.

[@Jeremiah59]

This is the problem with modern gaming. You guys are obsessed with graphics. Costs needs to be brought down, and let the creativity flow. We are suffocating with remakes... where are the original horror, and survival horror titles???

[@michaelkitchin9665]

That's not a modern thing. Graphics has always been a needle mover. Every developer strives for it on some level.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

Exactly. Fully agree. To play Devil's advocate to this video & certain modern game devs here: This kind of stuff lately has made me wonder (is this a sign that devs should be more CREATIVE with how they achieve certain visual goals? Even if it's at the sake of "being technically accurate?" If that makes any sort of sense to anyone else maybe?) *this is regarding to this new obsession with all these new graphical enhancements with the goal of seeking further realism, etc., etc. *What's more important here: realistic graphics, volumetric shadows, etc., etc. OR game devs just doing WHATEVER it takes to achieve a certain Look. To achieve a certain FEEL. To achieve a certain overall vibe, with certain gameplay mechanics, etc. No matter how graphically realistic & accurate they are.. IMO nothing should matter more than a games overall goal & tone and they should never sacrifice that in order to shove graphics in front of all of that..

[@Jeremiah59]

@@benmcreynolds8581 I have found it is the music that carries alot of games. e.g. RE3 original, metal gear solid 1, parasite eve 2. All had solid sound tracks. I would argue money is better spent on better music! The sound track and scares of SH2 had alot to do with its music and sound design. Deus ex 1: amazing sound track! Graphics is an evolutionary dead end for gaming.

[@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198]

See people say that and then you’ll ask them what their favorite games are and it’ll be like 3 Sony first party titles, RDR2 and then some title from the game boy that got them into gaming. People like pretty visuals, this will never change. It’s on companies to figure out how to keep costs down but maintain visual quality. It’s not our problem as consumers.

[@MrJekken]

there's quite a few original horror titles in the indie space. signalis, conscript, tormented souls, crow country, etc

[@masterquake7]

Oh, he said the word! Was this game really the Abandoned game the whole time?

[@Enkidu-4U]

It looks great to me, and I trust Bloober team to do it justice. They are masters of horror. Although I'm not buying it. I'm guessing those who wait to play this on the PS5 Pro will have a better time with the graphics with more horsepower under the hood.

[@Vordhosbn_]

Is there gonna be a playable demo?

[@DanCollier1]

The hair looks weird, almost shiny like its not part of the games Global illumination.

[@MarcusMcIntyre]

Unreal Engine 5 means PSVR 2 UEVR on PC. Looking forward to the soundtrack.

[@Psychotoxic86]

UE5 your PC expirience will with hitches and FPS drops.

[@Mega3iD]

i think this remake is preety solid and its great to have it

[@chrisdominuez1198]

Who the hell are these 2 did you ever play the original for more than 3 minutes I can't wait to dive into this

[@Conjurer54]

As soon as I hear for the modern audience my heart sinks and with that I am less likely to buy it, it’s a shame because as good as this remaster looks and plays they will turn many potential buyers off. If these game developers continually depend on the modern audience who ever they think this modern audience is they are shore to fail in their sales, but it does seem more important to today’s developers to cater to this supposed modern audience and not their core buyers, which is a shame because they lose sales and we don’t get the games we want. This is not just a statement on silent hill remaster but the state of a lot of games being released in general.

[@ians_parks]

If you play modern games then you are the modern audience

[@Conjurer54]

I think you no what I mean when they mention the modern audience, most players want to play games for enjoyment and escapism not to have politics and the like forced on us, if you look back over the last few short weeks of games releases you can clearly see what is selling well and what is not.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

It was this outta touch clown that said modern audience. He's just some intern at a tiny channel, he's not a dev for the game. We all know modern audience means the kiss of death for any game but this guy isn't anyone. I'd be more worried about how they made the woman ugly..... I mean westernized

[@ians_parks]

​@@Conjurer54​ I know what you mean when you say modern audience. I'm saying that's not what the devs mean when they say "updating for a modern audience." If you play current year games you are that modern audience. Them updating for modern audiences is simply updating the gameplay, graphics, and storytelling to be competitive with what is currently on the market. To attract current year gamers and entice them to play SH2. People are twisting the meaning of this interview as "pandering for the woke."

[@Conjurer54]

Of course I agree that producing or updating games using the things you mention to improve the game experience is fantastic for all of us, but I think that most of us can agree that developers, NOT ALL, are inserting more and more wokery into their games, which is turning many players away from buying their products. For those developers who continue down this road will lose many paying customers and risk the possibility of going out of business completely, and if that happens we all lose. Sadly some developers think woke is more important than customers and sales.

[@judyremar2735]

I don't know much about the original Silent Hill 2 but here's our comparison. What comparison? Get someone who knows the original in and out and can give a real explanation.

[@alexandrurobertmurarescu5987]

Idk why but I felt that @cataferal has not done his homework in this video 😊

[@daviddougher8637]

This game will look amazing on the new ps5 pro if they patch it for it..

[@dcb6729]

He said modern audience. 😒😮‍💨

[@TommySanSpeed]

We all know we will all be purchasing this game and will not be let down like most think so lets have fun on the 5th of October we all deserve this opportunity.

[@user-ze4hy2po5i]

October 5?

[@TommySanSpeed]

@@user-ze4hy2po5i 11:pm preorder for 2 day early access deluxe edition 79.99

[@TommySanSpeed]

@@user-ze4hy2po5i preorder lol 11pm release and if you get deluxe edition it's 2 day early access I think it's worth the extra 10 bucks

[@dantedecastrolichi2987]

>silent hill 2 aged poorly Unsubscribed

[@countquackula8539]

He's not wrong. The combat was clunky back then.

[@dantedecastrolichi2987]

@@countquackula8539 no it wasn’t. It was actually more flexible than what RE games were doing. You didn’t see STARS members Strafe/move+shoot until RE6.

[@lemonlime8949]

@@countquackula8539it’s done on purpose

[@arthur17718]

What do you mean its to really to talk about the framrate? The release of the game is a month away. They need to go Gold next week. Its too late to fix something else framerate adjustments. What you saw is what we will get.

[@jonathanburns9947]

I'm pretty sure, since this is Console, they will have a Perfirmance(frame rate) and/or Fidelity(graphics) options. I noticed a lot of Console games are including a choice between the two for the past 3 years.

[@rivariz9125]

New Channel : DF clips DF Clips : 19min : 19 secs

[@NativeWarrior081]

I agree! Clips shouldn't be this long!

[@seagullphilosopher2173]

​@@NativeWarrior081lol wtf you really don't have the attention span for 19 whole minutes?

[@hiredgunsg6178]

Great segment! Any word on the Bloodborne remake?

[@godnamedtay]

Worst segment I’ve literally ever seen from DF, period. John should be ashamed of himself for letting this thing go live.

[@remotecabinstudios]

Wanna hear my opinion? They should have remade silent hill 1 first…he looks like Leon Kennedy from behind….other than that, I’m pretty stoked I guess.

[@cory2016]

This what i wish the old was then play it back then it Incredible

[@Stinkytwinkie312]

This is bad, it's a ring of fog around the player. You're not actually moving through the fog 😔 Also, I don't believe anybody at blooper team has ever shot a firearm.

[@JR-kx3jr]

Why is this an issue? In real life, visibility in fog is better closer to you and worse farther away. A ring of fog would give the illusion of this while probably using less resources.

[@Stinkytwinkie312]

@@JR-kx3jr In the PlayStation 2 version you moved through the fog. You can actually see the sprites moving when James is walking. In real life you move through the fog. Now it looks like James is diseased and the fog is trying to stay away from him.

[@GabagoolOvaher]

Taking away the awkwardness of the fights and turning it into basically a hacked RE remake style shit gonna suck. It’s like the Konami top brass saw RE remakes being a cash cow and they had to take their IP from the grave and resurrect it to make a masqueraded mess of Silent Hill. Just let the IP die already.

[@DeathRecon]

To be fair, Hair in resident evil looks like garbage too, RE ENGINE is notorious for bad hair

[@Emulator_Crossing]

ps5 era is let down...underperformed consoles with too many games that have stutters and visual quality problems, at least from 3rd party.

[@ShadyPaperclips]

wait until you hear about how games were performing in almost every single other generation 😂

[@Emulator_Crossing]

@@ShadyPaperclips yes, but this gen was really hyped to be the ultimate 4k 60fps, with instant loading times.

[@Mangomesh]

I remember the original very well, SH2 really played with my emotions. I can't see Silent Hill 2 Remake topping that.

[@The_Rickest_Rick]

Then you should probably not bother with it. Personally, after recently completing the ps3 version, I feel the opposite and very much look forward to delving into this beautiful nightmare.

[@1theprince1]

The remake seem to be wrongly grounding the tone.

[@burakcoskun38]

Nostalgia issue

[@rubeesharma4316]

​@@1theprince1umm how?? It's the same What is it that you're seeing and I don't I was having a freaking blast throughout the entirety of the og until the prison This new one feels like its more serious right from the start

[@ekidonalangley8588]

The remake will absolutely not surpass the original. The best it can do is be equal, which it is all but guaranteed to not achieve.

[@juanme555]

"modern audiences"

[@seagullphilosopher2173]

Yeh moronic comment but DF have weird standards that always leave my jaw on the floor. SH2 has aged well other than maybe some slightly clunky controls but nothing egregious.

[@ChipHaven_Dan]

i really wanted them to be allowed to deviate a little further from the original like RE2 remake did....but also Bloober Team should understand that the standards and expectations are very high for this game ...so pls fix all the combat and animations

[@Sor9ry426]

They should only add to it once they've nailed the key components. Which they have not. 😑 The acting style is completely off. Feels like a fan film, instead of a dreamlike cadence in the original.

[@moomooman_]

@@Sor9ry426apparently you have played the game already, what was your favorite part?

[@rubeesharma4316]

Almost all houses are accessible and the playtime has been doubled with new scenes to connect the plot Now wtf do you want angela saving james You don't seem to know anything about the sh fandom They cry even in the smallest changes

[@rubeesharma4316]

​@@Lollburger88but I think the mary part has been done well

[@ChipHaven_Dan]

@@rubeesharma4316 my friend how old are u? Chose your language carrefully, and come with real arguments and comments.

[@guilhermejrmarin]

Im happy to see they kept the mediocre graphics and clunky controls pf the proginal.

[@FeiYun2010]

I can't waittttt! Ahhhhhhhh 😍😍😍

[@BeyondSIC]

My BIGGEST concern is by far the clunky animations. RE2 remake set a new standard for horror remakes so SH2 needs to compete with that and so far it’s not even close….

[@CarlosTapia-uo6rp]

Thought i saw Todd Howard in the thumbnail lol

[@ChipHaven_Dan]

no offence Df guys but i believe that you were just born when the original silent hill 2 launched...so of course you did not click with it ..But ask any ps1 veteran when this game lunched was a masterpiece, loved by all

[@bogstandardash3751]

With respect I think df is much more interested in the graphs tech, without offering too much opinion on the quality of titles outside of that sphere.

[@BUPMY1]

​@@bogstandardash3751 In the beginning of the video the guy said he didn't get into the original release.

[@LuciferHunter-kt7pm]

Born in 78! Hail GenX, early Millennial gamers!!

[@imjuzChiLLiN976]

Born in 78 too ! 😊

[@Zy.Blurish]

not sure why everyone is always acting like age was the defining factor to enjoy a game or not.. i was just 7 when i played through silent hill 3 and i enjoyed it so much that i went back to play the previous ones right after. Of course i've only understood these games properly some time after but that never stopped me from enjoying these games

[@pawe9807]

Ciekawe czy wyjdzie wersja PS5 Pro enhanced ?

[@IIIdelinquentIII]

I am excited for the remake but i cant trust bloober to have the combat be fun yet balanced to match sh2 survival combat

[@badpapae]

Are there any new ips? Remakes getting played out now

[@emanuel81111]

Indies and AA games do original games, dont expect AAA to make something new, they only care for money. (Exceptions: capcom, square enix, from software, kojima studios, funny enough all from japan, they are goated in videogames)

[@gg_regoire]

@@emanuel81111 these "exceptions" don't make new ip at all and konami is a japan studio so it's really a funny com"

[@darkboymar]

​@@gg_regoire Capcom released 2 new Ips recently. Kunitsu Gami and Exoprimal, and let's not forget about Pragmata.

[@emanuel81111]

@@gg_regoire fromsoftware: elden ring. Kojima:(death stranding, OD), capcom:( kunitsu gami Path of the goddess, pragmata) . Konami is the exception. You most be new to gaming since i have to lecture you

[@tomsimmons7673]

​@@emanuel81111how many RE games has Capcom remade? Remastering all their fighting games.

[@fenixa2z936]

So if this game isn’t really combat based then what is the gameplay about? Puzzles?

[@LolekBezBolkaShow]

It's mostly a scary, psychological horror with a very heavy atmosphere + exploration and interesting characters. Although the clunky combat is justified due to the main character being just a random dude and not a combat veteran, which in my opinion is a good thing because the game is more difficult and becomes a survival horror thanks to those clunky character steering mechanics

[@petebagwell6666]

This that game about circumsisions?

[@gonzooo9464]

GTA SAN ANDREAS REMASTERED SHOULD TAKE NOTES

[@ProjectFraz]

Gta sa "remaster" is what happens when you take a crappy mobile port and port it to modern hardware using a developer that mainly makes mobile games instead of the main teams doing a proper remake/remaster.

[@djkoz78]

"Modern Audiences"

[@goldenboigwuapo]

dear god

[@MasterBen117]

I Hope haptic Feedback on pc Version with ps5 controller

[@retromccabe7625]

How can you focus so much on light reflections? Its a game. Gameplay and fun factor. These nitpicks are ruining gaming

[@xMawkKnightx]

Are u new to the channel? They mainly focus of the technical/overall performance side of games.

[@benmcreynolds8581]

To play Devil's advocate here: This kind of stuff lately has made me wonder (is this a sign that devs should be more CREATIVE with how they achieve certain visual goals? Even if it's at the sake of "being technically accurate?" If that makes any sort of sense to anyone else maybe?) *this is regarding to this new obsession with all these new graphical enhancements with the goal of seeking further realism, etc., etc. *What's more important here: realistic graphics, volumetric shadows, etc., etc. OR game devs just doing WHATEVER it takes to achieve a certain Look. To achieve a certain FEEL. To achieve a certain overall vibe, with certain gameplay mechanics, etc. No matter how graphically realistic & accurate they are.. IMO nothing should matter more than a games overall goal & tone and they should never sacrifice that in order to shove graphics in front of all of that..

[@undetected2088]

You not even having played the original… Your wasting our time. Your opinion is immediately invalid

[@Edrokski_777]

The fog obscures the player view...😂 That's the point..... I love how many people are doing these kind of videos trying to critique this game. That never even played/got into the PS2 title....... How can you compare or try to give a honest review of the Remake if you never even played the first one...... Acting like you know what your talking about........lol😂😂😂😂

[@Sor9ry426]

Funny how people all focus on the technicalities, which can be fixed by mods/patches. The unsalvageable thing here is actually the acting. Feels like a fan film, instead of a Lynchian dreamscape of the original. 🥴 The acting is professional, but does not fit the trippy mood of this game, (e.g. the protagonist is too quick to respond in conversations, which does not fit the behaviour of a depressed, confused and disassociative person) They got it all wrong😮‍💨 it's like hiring Hollywood actors for a European auteur film.