Silverback gets angry and knocks his son to the ground.｜Shabani Group

Video shot: April 19, 2024　9:20 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
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Shabani♂
Born October 20, 1996
Place of birth Appenhure Primate Park (Netherlands)
Nene♀
Born in 1972 (estimated)
Africa (wild)
Ai ♀
Born February 27, 2003
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo
Kiyomasa ♂
Born November 1, 2012
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo
Annie ♀
June 2, 2013
Place of birth Higashiyama Zoo

[@sowhat7472]

Shabani finally disciplined Kiyomasa ❤❤❤ He was not putting up with Nene’s mess either 😂

[@irenekopec9892]

kiyo drumming like a troop leader really pissed shabani off. Ai continues to be the ultimate tease; she is very aware of the tension

[@VA4LVRS]

Annie looks like she lost weight. She smacks at kiyo like you better listen to my daddy ❤❤

[@japanesezoo]

Annie looks thin due to skeletal issues, but rest assured she is eating well now!

[@hotdogsauce]

rampage shabani. lol. it's interesting to watch these interactions. spring hormones. still, shabani treats each gorilla as an individual, even when he is asserting his dominance. long live the king.🦍👑

[@claudetteobrien1086]

They all get involved

[@sonjavandam1306]

Oh my, I felt the tension a few days ago & here we are. Shabani was pissed😮 Kiyo 💩 himself, Nene barking as usual. Looks like Ai was staying out of it. Pretty girl supporting her dad as always 💜 I suppose it's a waste of time thinking anything will change & that makes me sad. Shabani you are the best.😉 Thank you for sharing.🍷

[@ladyjulia2496]

Miss you, chat soon xoxoxo ❤

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@ladyjulia2496 Ditto baby girl.💜

[@consuelopando9414]

Tengamos esperanza quecambie es muy preocupante como esta Kiyosama y Sabanis es muy fuerte y que agilidad es penoso no vean conla seriedad que. Lleva esto parecido no igual esta Gentaro que siempre fue tan dócil es un joven adulto

[@emmas1082]

It is time to get Kiyomasa a wife and a new home.

[@aisha2370]

Absolutely. The fighting between the father and grown son is dangerous and stressful for the family.

[@mariapittman8970]

Shabani is doing his thing.. I say Kiyomasa and Gentaro need to start a bachelor group with a Silverback to teach them.

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

Isn’t there a solitary silverback at Chiba Zoo?

[@mariapittman8970]

@@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci I think so.. is that Monta? I could be wrong.. No Gorilla should live a lone

[@pattycoe7435]

I think both brothers in this troop are old enough to go to a bachelor group headed by a non related silverback to learn what it really means to be a grownup gorilla.

[@mariapittman8970]

@@pattycoe7435 not sure if your talking about Kintaro but he is only 5 he’s still too young.

[@hoptoit5910]

@@mariapittman8970 They mean Gentaro who’s 12. That’s who the original commenter mentioned.

[@stevemorris6790]

Annie is a very good daughter for her dad!

[@paulagola2307]

My darling Shabani is on a roll he's showing who the boss is. I just love Shabani ❤❤

[@360Fov]

Annie's run when she keeps looking over her shoulder is so funny lmao

[@consuelopando9414]

Annis ama ❤ a su padre. Ella es la vida de Sabanis cuando hay broncas lo apoya

[@tuckergraham846]

Aw poor kioyomasa shabani the great doesn’t usually lose his temper like that.

[@tyeishamcbride7127]

This by no means is going to get any better😢so is the zoo just hoping it will? What’s the plan, love ❤️ kiyo, but come on he needs to go before he gets hurt! Shabani will exert authority as he should!

[@BioTransXX]

Would be good to see Kiyo and Gentaro start or join a male group, or find them “wives”. But Annie has to find a new group too or her father will mate with her eventually. 😬

[@aruba531]

Oh, looky, There’s Mom fighting Son’s battles again! There goes the family picking sides again. 😂

[@jenniferlynn3537]

Kiyomasa’s face was especially expressive today - and you captured wonderful footage of it!

[@AustinBunyard]

Nice to see shabani showing whos boss again ,he always so nice and the others accept annie take advantage of his sweer attitude

[@shawnduguay6007]

I don’t know where you see that, kiyomasa seems like he’s gonna be the boss one day, Shabani acts out and gets chased by the the clan. I like Shabani but I don’t know he’s well liked

[@Pray925]

@@shawnduguay6007it's not Shabani who's acting out, he is the Alpha and Kiyo continues to test him! Shabani is very loving and playful and the troop especially his son takes advantage of that! And if you watch the Hoako troop, Hoaka gets chased by the troop also when he gets after one of the members

[@jenniferlynn3537]

Kiyomasa didn’t appear to be drumming at Shabani. Moreover, Kiyomasa WAS being docile and submissive when Shabani was grooming him - then when Kiyo mildly objected, Shabani lost his temper. I agree that sometimes Kiyo tests the limits - for example, being first in line every single time, and scooping up all the Italian rye grass leaving none for Shabani and the others. I’d like to see Shabani assert himself when Kiyomasa is actually being inappropriate rather than during their leisure time when it seems unwarranted.

[@AustinBunyard]

@@shawnduguay6007 all male gorillas get chased by the group after they get discipline do you not watch any gorilla video it happens to haoko djecco momotaro all of the Silverback get chased by the group

[@Pray925]

@@jenniferlynn3537 it's unwarranted in your eyes but you have no idea what goes on 24/7 there or how gorillas are raised! Kiyo is too old to still be pampered!

[@koookimama]

ネネさん、まだ走れるってすごい😂

[@cathygilbert3235]

Shabani loves to agitate Nene😅

[@stevemorris6790]

Are we watch the same video? No Nene likes to agitate Shabani taking Kiyo side when Shabani is disciplining Kiyo. . Running after him and yelling like crazy.

[@sonjavandam1306]

Nene & her barking 😅

[@TheFlashyWeasel]

​@@sonjavandam1306and she does that well!😅

[@sonjavandam1306]

She does it well for sure 😮​@@TheFlashyWeasel

[@joegaito702]

They have moment also they are very smart and intelligent animals always learning something new each day from them we laugh and learn and benefit from the gorillas thanks they make good parents and grandparents god bless you guys thanks you guys rock way to love you guys thanks stay safe and warm out there !!! Joe

[@eagleblack6254]

Shabani fa cadere a terra Kiyomasa perché il suo istinto sentiva che non era li per farsi fare grumming,ma per continuare a lottare. Shabani tesoro mio, prima o poi Kiyomasa se ne andrà,e spero che tu ritorni ad essere Silver back meraviglioso che sei sempre stato. È la vita, anche Kiyomasa starà meglio ( penso positivo). Ciao Amori belli! Grazie per il video emozionante!❤️🍀🍀🍀❤️

[@jacquelinerussell8530]

Son is saying, "Dad pretty soon, im going to give you a run for your money.

[@KentettaJarrell]

You can see they have feelings. Like us humans they hurt they get sad depressed and angry like we do I wish them a long and happy and healthy life with plenty of there favorite foods I love garrillas so much from Brooklyn New York

[@patriciadavis5939]

I do too. Beautiful they are.🥰

[@girankenorts796]

Tensions were high and Kiyo saw some big chompers comin his way. I think it was just a knee jerk reaction.

[@danieltossounian1962]

Gorillas have two emotions serenity and rage ….

[@cincinnatipedalsteel4347]

Kiyo needs to start his own family soon. Getting too big for his britches. Shabani was like “oh you forgot who the big dog was around here huh?” Then started showing his ass. 😂 That backwards slide at 5:34 cracked me up.

[@GiselSimon]

I know it's been happening for a while now but it is weird to see Shabani be so aggressive towards Kiyo.

[@Balletcalvero]

I learned way too late in life that others will gleefully step all over you if you let them. Good for you, Shabani.

[@juliajohnson6022]

Shabani is showing him who’s the boss.🦾❤️🇺🇸

[@sandraphillips1718]

Love Shabani and Kiyo. The zoo has to find a solution. 🙏🙏🙏🙁

[@KentettaJarrell]

I love garrillas I love the shanbi troop from Brooklyn New York

[@valeriefranchi6069]

Pauvre bêtes qu'est-ce qu'il doivent s'ennuyer pas assez d'arbres et de feuilles 😢❤

[@Supernova862]

Pushed Shabani away?.. Kiyo opened his mouth to play bite back like they always do. Kiyo wasn't pushing Shababi away. I think kiyo thought it was play time And Shabani was still holding a grudge from earlier.

[@racheleastwood5588]

Nene watching out for her boy as all mother's do lol

[@shieldshockerwot]

The thing here is simple: Shabani bit Kiyo a bit to hard during grooming, Kiyo reacted in anger and Shabani didn't like that. Maybe Kiyo is now to old for that father-son playing/cuddling and it's time for separation.

[@jackierobinson81]

I like when Shabani puts Kiyomasa in his place

[@sonjavandam1306]

Me too, it's pretty sexy.🧡

[@danieltossounian1962]

@@sonjavandam1306 because you are a primate and you like strong males …

[@2btpatch]

Watching the interplay of Shabani’s family is like watching a chess game. Kiyomasa wants so badly to topple the king!

[@cindysmith1476]

After watching the dynamics of the whole group I think theres a little instigator in it also.

[@user-jb8pu5wb9b]

Good morning to the family

[@kipkapper3014]

so funny ,shabani incites retaliation, they retaliate in name only, zero intentions on doing damage, shabani runs knowing full well he doesn't have to , and also knowing they intend to do zero damage. so funny man.

[@debphillips4719]

Typical teenage male. They try and puff their chests out and show how strong they 'arent'... I have 3 sons and I've seen it first hand😊

[@1morenobody]

NeNe screams like a banshee😂.

[@sandraphillips1718]

Come on Shabani troop, try to get alone. You all love and need each other.❤❤❤

[@amirtamboli234]

Little Nene should know her place 😂

[@mollyhatchet7075]

Said the monkey's uncle .... you should know ...LMAO ...

[@HankandLouie]

And then there’s spry, no-teeth Nene, always coming up from the ranks to Kiyo’s rescue😅💐

[@fvader6666]

I'm still saying the son should have his own enclosure his getting as big as his dad there will be lots if tensions

[@sonjavandam1306]

They have nowhere to house the black backs. They have had 10 yrs to plan their exits & nothing is done. Shame on Japan. It makes me so 😢

[@consuelopando9414]

Inncreible Nene enfrenta a Sabanis que espiritu increible con su edad NENE REGAÑONA SE. TE AMA

[@KentettaJarrell]

They love just like we do when they love they love hard beautiful gentle giant s

[@doblegcanusee9311]

Interesting that we call them father and son where as shabani sees him as his potential rival.

[@jackierobinson81]

Kiyomasa loves his father

[@BioTransXX]

Annie that crazy girl fake attacking her much bigger brother. He looked shocked too. 🤦‍♀️😂🤡

[@rosiepena8917]

Uh oh.... don't piss off grandma Nene!

[@user-po7js1nn3l]

パパの態度は、息子の心と体の成長を促してくれるのではないでしょうか…🦍❤

[@kelly00000111111]

5:10 shabani doing a little "gardening" to release some stress lolol 🌲➡🚫

[@Le_coq_sportiff]

Hes a great gardener, hes always maintaining his yard👍

[@jenniferlynn3537]

I didn’t like that plant anyway….🌚🌿

[@01maggie]

Got to give Nene credit. She will not let Shabani abuse her nor Kyomasa ❤ That's a true Mom!! Notice Shabani 2:45 always runs away from Nene when her temper is up?? I think she intimidates Shabani a wee bit❤😂

[@sonjavandam1306]

Nene intimidating Shabani.😂

[@patriciabenjumea5337]

Por favor hay que cuidar a kiyomasa y Nene su madre sufre por su hijo😢

[@SerenaAcevedo415]

Shabani so funny, he hits you then runs

[@leosunrising]

I wonder if the gorillas suffer more anxiety and have put bursts more because they are contained in a zoo or environment where they are constantly watched, instead of in a jungle where they belong. Look at all they do all day n in a very small enclosure. Nothing but be watched for our amusement m. How horrible we do this . And they constantly get laughed at and pointed at. This is abuse as I see it. How humiliating for these beautiful tortured giants. And people think this is ok and cute. I don’t need to see gorillas like this. I’d rather know they were in their own natural environment. That’s where they live and can be gorillas, not like this , for show. Makes me very sad and people are laughing at them .

[@Creative-Chaos]

I don’t agree with you and yet I understand your thought process. We become more empathetic to wildlife when we see animals in a zoo. As a personal example, I saw a rehab center for elephants. This made me pay more attention to their plight in Africa regarding droughts and trophy hunters. I now donate money to help support the elephants. Zoos help bring awareness of animals we may never see in a native situation. It is sad for the animals in a zoo, but I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

[@sofarokintn8166]

Havent watched in a few days, does Shabani have a wound to his left shoulder? Looks like a bite.

[@danieltossounian1962]

I want them in their wild home …😢

[@patriciabenjumea5337]

Esperemos que el zoológico esté pensando en conseguirle una esposa aunque sea en otro país se lo merece por ser buen hijo y buen hermano, por ser un gorila espectscular❤

[@ninawest8]

I wonder how Shebani got he wound on his arm?😮

[@PowerScissor]

There's not much to do but chase each other around by the looks of it.

[@fvader6666]

Poor Nene always picked on 😢

[@fvader6666]

😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😊

[@evo2542]

This was misunderstanding. Kiyo also probably hit Shabani's tooth and you know how that feels. You wonder if they are loose right after.

[@goldeneagle47]

So this is where all Rajang came from.

[@she.around]

All will be ok within The Shabani Gang soon ♥️🦍 The love is stronger than the hate 🤞🏼 Thanks for another vid appreciate it 🤝🏼

[@elizabethehrmann7429]

Shabani needs to maintain & leadership the older juvenile males need to leave!

[@saeadborji1464]

I like this zoo. Plenty of space, clean, nice place to sleep. I think if you could speak to them and ask their opinion, they would prefer the zoo over wilderness.

[@sandrabentley8111]

Plenty of space? Hardly. They must be bored silly. Where's the enrichment?

[@PeterMaddox-qr2ie]

In their natural environment would a young black back/silverback leave the family group? Go out on their own or join others in a bachelor group? If the young male would normally leave then the zoo has a duty to relocate Kiyomasa otherwise he will be continually beaten physically and physiologically by Shabani😢

[@massimomascelli7308]

Poveri, rinchiusi,nervosi

[@rebeccacampbell807]

What does that mean when Shabani bends over and repeatedly rubs on his head really fast likes he's wiping something off his head, does anyone know please??

[@karamichael2577]

“I’m going to get you and your little mama too!” Poor Nene. Shabani is really such a bully to her. One of these days her son will put a stop to it. I like Shabani though. I think it’s amazing how he raised Annie and I think he has been I love him dad to his son as well. His playfulness has rubbed off on the kids. I think that especially with males it’s important to have this playfulness. I feel like it can really be the difference between a silverback being part of the family or feeling lonely and separated. That’s just my opinion, but I stand firm on Nene not being able to catch a break. 😂 she’s a trooper though.

[@sonjavandam1306]

Oh yes, poor Nene, if Shabani is a bully what is Kiyo, a bully who also messes with Nene.😅

[@stevemorris6790]

Poor Nene , what a a bullshit comment! If Nene stopped taking her son side every time shabani is trying to discipline her son kiyo like any decent silverback , running after Shabani and barking like crazy, she would catch a break , besides no forgetting She kicked Annie all during Annie childhood.

[@karamichael2577]

@@stevemorris6790 I’m sorry you feel like I was attacking Shabani. He is an exceptional Silverback. Considering Kiyomasa’s age and size, it’s impressive how Shabani maintains a good balance of authority and love. There just aren’t any words for what he did with Annie. Still, the fact remains, he is going to make sure that Nene gets her steps in. It’s a fact that Shabani randomly hits and runs on others hoping they will chase him. When he met Nene and Ai, Ai was young and so was he. Nene probably treated him more like a son and chased him like a mother would chase a son to protect a younger sibling. He probably never grew out of that as that was the dynamic in the beginning. Plus, she was probably the only one who would chase him. Even now the others start chasing him because she starts chasing him. So in a nutshell, since they met, Nene has been Shabani’s ‘go to’ if he wants to be chased and no gorilla chases him the way Nene chases him. Now that said, she’s a 50+ year old grandmother with no teeth and can hardly walk, she’s not as quick to chase him. Still, she’s his ‘go to’ and he will continue to mess with her until he gets a rise out of her.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@karamichael2577maybe if Nene put out for Shabs he wouldn't be so uptight. Nene is a cranky old woman, she can leg it when she wants to. She shouldn't get a pass because she was born in the wild.😜

[@ShadyNationGaming]

These animals are supposed to travel freely and eat whenever they want this is not right to keep these majestic animals caged up I feel so bad for them

[@rgbsax]

It seems to me Nene is the alpha lol. Shabani won't go near her when she charges.

[@bigboytoyz541]

All silverbacks run like that. It is to give the others time to cool off. But you will notice when shabani stops running, she immediately stops and shuts up. Because if she doesn't, she will get bit. She isn't the alpha, at this point I don't think she is even the dominant female anymore.

[@stevemorris6790]

He does .

[@eridan565]

Shabani will annoy the troop to get chased he's been doing it for years 😅 years ago he would constantly annoy nene so she chased him 😂

[@brussel4242]

Silverbacks run away to prevent any injuries to the others. They are powerful enough to kill the others easily so run away to stop any escalation after handing out discipline.

[@bigboytoyz541]

@@eridan565 that's not what is happening now. This is tension from having an adult son that is still in the group, and messing with the females.

[@elizabethehrmann7429]

It doesn’t seem fair to the older male gorillas to be stuck there. In nature, they would leave the troop & start their own group. Shabani wouldn’t have to be on his guard & discipline those guys. Also, why aren’t the females having babies?

[@coolkillab5236]

Shane I has to show how m from that me to time.

[@consuelopando9414]

Hay que prestar atención Kiyosama tan revuelto y Ai y Nene en defensa de Kiyosama Nene da unos gritos coge una velocidad de 120 millas por hora jjjjj tan vieja y guapa eres muy querida Nene Annis cuidando a su padre

[@user-iq5xc1gk5s]

THEY NEED FAR MORE SPACE, DO THEY HAVE TO KILL EACH OTHER ?

[@Enthusiastic777]

Kiyomasa doesn’t respect Shabani enough. Kiyomasa is too self confident. Shabani is very good father and leader of the troop but attacking Nene for no reason was too much. Nene is too old for this.

[@stevemorris6790]

He didn’t attack Nene for reasons. Nene always go after Shabani and he knows so he was proactive and no taking Nene or Ai s*it . He has been so nice and kiyo takes advantage of him with Nene back.

[@camouflagekumquat3412]

Are we watching the same video do you also think that you're oppressed living under white supremacy raining down on you because somebody that sees what I see in this video with my own eyes and has idea to write what you said under this video is someone who is confused misled and blinded by filters that you are seeing reality through because you contradict yourself in your own comments somebody that writes which you wrote in the second part of your comments shouldn't logically be able to come to that conclusion

[@sonjavandam1306]

Poor old Nene. Not to old to chase & bark at Shabani for touching her spoilt son.😅

[@sandraphillips1718]

I think Shabani is stressed out.

[@labete1075]

Ça ça gène personne de voir et de payer pour voir des esclaves en cages 😐

[@user-su5wq9du2r]

Alcatraz

[@ericaknesek3266]

What is sad existence for these animals the close quarters the boredom is obvious.

[@VivianSmiling]

They seem do not have happy life!

[@nortbulinga]

le lieu me parait si petit pour de si gros animaux ,mais peut etre que la camera ne montre pas tout l’espace ?✌🏼🤘🏼

[@vonroe6910]

This place is to small and looks like a prison.

[@Gretta1759]

Мне кажется, зоопарк ждет, когда Шабани покалечит сына и только после этого будет предпринимать какие-нибудь шаги по отделению Кие из семьи. Если никаких вариантов для Кие нет, надо было его кастрировать, как делают в других зоопарках. В этом случае он мог навсегда остаться в семье.

[@bigboytoyz541]

Just because they are castrated doesn't mean they won't fight. They have found that out in other zoo's. The silverback still has the instinct to push them out of the group.

[@Gretta1759]

@@bigboytoyz541 все гориллы между собой выясняют отношения. Но кастрированный самец не представляет угрозу для самок. Шабани и Момо долго взрослых самцов терпеть не будут.

[@TheFlashyWeasel]

Not to mention his breeding chances would end...he's still young.

[@Gretta1759]

@@TheFlashyWeasel а с кем ему размножаться? Со своими сестрами? Он никому не нужен. Шансы на размножение у него минимальные.

[@sandraphillips1718]

​@@TheFlashyWeasel Exactly.

[@Poldereaux]

why are females so aggressive towards Shabani ?

[@LynnAnn1960]

I worrie about shabani , I don't want him to have a heart attack, he's in a lot of stress , I heard his dad and one of his sisters died of heart attacks..😢😢😢

[@sonjavandam1306]

His dad had a heart attack 5 yrs ago but his only sister is at Taronga park zoo. Shabani is fit & healthy.

[@LynnAnn1960]

​@@sonjavandam1306 , I just worry that's all

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@LynnAnn1960 I don't worry as I can't afford the wrinkles.🤣 Most silverbacks sit & nap, like momotaro, Shabani is very active & youthful. Don't worry it's out of our hands, nature will decide his fate. If something did happen to him, there will be anarchy.😉

[@pattyh2410]

If they had a bigger habitat they would be happier. Too crowed.

[@Watcher1852]

They don't look healthy. and it looks like they need more trees and grasses around them. What a way for them to live.

[@sandrabentley8111]

Such a small enclosure also for all those gorillas. Boredom is real here.

[@Beautifulwonders38]

I dont get it all the money you all make off the shabani family and they get more hay then food and i never see them get any fruit smh 😢

[@kimaletta8943]

It's way past time to remove Kyo and bring in another female to have babies..Shabani is too magnificent to not have bababies..there should at least be 3 new babies by now..Ai is worthless at reproducing and Shabani deserves a loving mate!

[@ZombieQueen819]

I’ve had a lot of time to think about stuff 😅😅,, Nene wasn’t born in a zoo was she,, Nene was caught from the wild ?? Okay in the wild by the age of 30 the silverback is replaced by a younger silverback about 22-26 years old. So maybe that’s why my grumpy old ladybug is trying to get a new leader/silverback!!! Now going back to the wild silverback and his troop. Only his true females will stay with him past the age of 30 mini will leave, but three or four will normally stay with him for the rest of his life because of their age also.

[@bigboytoyz541]

Nene wouldn't know that because in the wild she would have died a long time ago. In the wild she would only live to around 35.

[@irenekopec9892]

nene has always wanted kiyo to be troop leader ever since kiyo was a youngster. she is still at this.

[@sonjavandam1306]

When you let your mom mate with you, she won't give it up to her husband but she will let her son.😮

[@bigboytoyz541]

@@sonjavandam1306 😄😄. The sad thing is genki has been trying to mate with gentaro also. Luckily, gentaro isn't mature enough to realize what is happening.

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@bigboytoyz541 I keep hearing these thing's about Genki but I don't watch the troop anymore. Things are pretty messed up for all gorillas in Japan.👁️👁️

[@ericaknesek3266]

My belief is zoos need to be outlawed. This is a travesty animals kept in captivity like this so humans can observe and be entertained. You should be ashamed.

[@IamAdrienne]

It is interesting that Nene seems to side with Kioymasa. I wonder if it has to do with his younger age. She is not his mother. Kioymasa needs to stop testing Shabani. Shabani continues to have patience although it is wearing thin these days with Kioymasa antics.

[@sowhat7472]

Nene is Kiyomasa’s mother. She always protects him and has his entire life. She tries to act like she is the silverback.

[@IamAdrienne]

@@sowhat7472 I keep getting the offspring mixed up. I thought Kioymasa's eas AI's son. I know Ai is also her daughter but by Rikki, who died. I also thought Ai had two kids. I guess I am wrong.

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@IamAdrienne Ai had a baby before Annie & the baby died.

[@karenclare4241]

What’s wrong with shabani , why is he in a bad mood

[@eddiemaiden2664]

Because there are 2 adult males in the same enclosure when there should be just one Kiyomassa is not supposed to still be in there at his age, you can't pull him out overnight but there needs to be a plan in place to slowly move him out of this group so he can start his own

[@SuperPondo]

I think they have taken AI off birth control....I hope Shabani will get the chance to breed her, before his son does. Shabani deserves more offspring!

[@bigboytoyz541]

​@@SuperPondothey have said that ai has been off of birth control for years. But her estrus hasn't returned, so she won't be mating until it does.

[@bigboytoyz541]

​@@eddiemaiden2664exactly right.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@bigboytoyz541 The one exception is Tayari, she is a horny gorilla who doesn't need to be in estrus to mate.😅

[@llsoderholm]

These video s are a waste of time 😮😮😮😮😮

[@TreyParkersBitch]

I SAID I’M NOT GAY