Silverback Gorilla Lost His Temper with His Son | The Shabani Group

[@mikeswife5298]

They really need to find kyo a new home. This has to be stressful on Shabani Sand him

[@mikeswife5298]

Oops and him lol

[@grokeffer6226]

Yes, I think Kyo needs a new home and a girlfriend. 🦍🦍🦍🦍❤

[@tracey9116]

This is a long process. I love how people make comments that have never worked with western lowland gorillas, don't have the education or training and are not their owners or keepers. Do you realize what would happen to NeNe and Annie if you "kicked Kiyo out?". They would grieve for him. When the zoo/owners feel it's time then they'll make a move. Shabani can still reproduce, but he's stuck with AI/Nene who show zero interest in mating. They're wasting Shabani's good genetics!

[@pamgriffin9588]

I agree. He's challenging the silver back , maybe he's a teenager now, and its stressful on the whole family.

[@Greylock21]

And Nene❤

[@sonjavandam1306]

This was taken on the same day as the last one but in the afternoon. Shabani is still pissed at Kiyo. It's like Shabani is stalking Kiyo. It's difficult because they are doing what comes naturally & the only person at fault is the zoo. But who is surprised that this was gonna happen. It will be interesting to see how they are behaving tomorrow.😢🤦 Thanks for sharing.🌟

[@Gretta1759]

Абсолютно верно. Мне кажется, Энни больше переживает о проблемах семьи, чем зоопарк. Всем понятно, кроме зоопарка, что отношения между отцом и сыном накаляются и будут только ухудшаться. Киемаса претендует на Ай, что совершенно недопустимо. Давно надо было решить вопрос с Киемасой, возможно, объединить его с Гентаро. Но зоопаркам все безразлично.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@Gretta1759Amen.😢

[@AlinaWhitfield0510]

Kiyo is already a big gorilla and needs to leave his group. In the gorilla community, males are expelled or they will fight for females, territory, babies and food. The zoo needs to take action now.

[@AlinaWhitfield0510]

Kiyo is already a big gorilla and needs to leave his group. In the gorilla community, males are expelled or they will fight for females, territory, babies and food. The zoo needs to take action now.

[@SolaKnitez53]

It's too bad the zoo doesn't care. You would think they would say, like, oh, we have plans to move him soon, which is better than knowing nothing...what are they gonna do wait until a member is killed? This is all very stressful for the others in the group.😢

[@cynthia7564]

Watching this, and hearing the chattering humans commenting on every move the gorillas made, I kept thinking that the gorillas had more dignity. I felt a kind of sadness that they had no natural life, no privacy at all.

[@mariemcquadegignilliat5590]

I agree

[@Middle-Road.Kim.K]

I do hope the zoo makes some decisions about the males. In the wild, Kiyo would have the choice of being submissive to Shabani or leaving to start a new troop. But for now they're unable to get out of each other's way. This is also putting undue stress on the females. Yes, in the Congo there's occasional stressful family dynamics, but they sort themselves out. Another point is this troop is already inbred - allowing Kiyo to mate with Ai or Annie would be irresponsible for the zoo and introduce genetic issues that this species cannot afford with their low numbers. Globally zoos trade animals to keep the genetics varied. I'm sure another zoo would love to have Kiyo finish growing up in their care and be a father himself once he's bulked up and silver.

[@sonjavandam1306]

Great comment, 😊

[@コロパピィ]

日本の動物園は薬で子供が出来ないようにしている。 ライオン等も、薬や去勢手術で元気が無い時があった。　　 ゴリラを飼育している所は少ない。　動物園がつくらない。　日本は動物園が多いがゴリラの飼育が大変なのだろうか?　ゴリラが少なくなると騒いでいるが、　飼育する所が少ない。　ライオンは多すぎて増やさないようにしている。　　ライオン、猿は飼われているのが多い。　ゴリラの飼育場所が他の動物よりも日本では広い。

[@walliegoolsby5389]

I totally 💯 agree with your comment.

[@BirbarianHomeGuard]

Kiyo and Gentaro need a bachelor group

[@mcfilthymcnasty8206]

Neither one of them are mature enough for a family at this point.

[@mgxzazfbyjuchrisclarkvpz236]

That's why he said they need a BACHELOR group

[@mcfilthymcnasty8206]

@@mgxzazfbyjuchrisclarkvpz236 Oh Okay.

[@sowhat7472]

Kiyomasa is challenging Shabani….that’s what this is about

[@KMichealElite.]

As he should. Kiyo is the age now and becoming the new leader of the troop. This is normal, but shanani has to be soo careful, he could end up being cornered by all of them which would not end well at all for him.😅

[@Simon-gc6uf]

@@KMichealElite. Hardly, Nene has no teeth and can't do a thing, Annie would never side against her dad, that leaves Kiyo and Ai who Shabani could wreck both of them if he chose to. Thankfully he is very careful in the use of his power but they should have moved Kiyo ages ago because something will go south if he stays there. I am truly baffled at these Japanese zoos treating them like human families and keeping them together too long.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@Simon-gc6uf👏🤕

[@ForestGirlTeresa]

@@KMichealElite.Kiyomasa is a long way from becoming troop leader. Shabani is strong and in his prime. But a bachelor group would benefit Kiyomasa and let him know he’s not the only ambitious young male in the world. I don’t think zoos should keep an animal species that they cannot fully provide for.

[@yolandathompson1585]

It’s painful to see this when we all know you have several gorilla groups to start a new generation!!! Get it done!!! Please!!!

[@DanielC__]

Kiyomassa is growing up, getting stronger and his hormones are raging. He will need to be moved in the not to distant future. This happens in the wild when sons are banished. If he's not moved there will be a real fight and it will be ugly. Fathers and Sons sometimes fight to the death in the wild. No reason it won't happen here as Kiyomassa continues to mature.

[@sonjavandam1306]

Amen 👏

[@AbrahamGraham-u3m]

I agree / that's why they have batchler groups in the wild who will only be able to have a troop if they are strong enough & matured .

[@lindahughes2289]

Love Shabani

[@GrandRegentSScratch]

Watching this family always makes my day a little better👍🏻

[@rosiepena8917]

Poor Annie get so freaked out when there is tension. She adores her brother Kyo.

[@barbpz]

Rosiepena, I understand your concern for Annie but does she pick on NeNe? I think they need more space.

[@sylvie2519]

This is a lovely family. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in captivity with the constant noise and to be on display. And on top of it adapt to an unnatural environment. When I look at the gorillas in the mountains they have the habitat to forage all day. they have the lush greenery and the societal norms are clear. Ahh. Love Shabani and his love for his family. Nene is so cute and expressive and at her age holds her own. When she wants to move she can. Her age and size compared to the other gorillas makes her more vulnerable in a physical way but she fights back and has a voice. I dont think she is as crabby as one may think. She is more than her facial expressions. For that matter one cannot know unless one was in her gorilla shoes or shoeless. The children Kiyo and Annie are children. Natural to act out and push the boundaries and be naughty at times. And Ai ever the peace lover. Shabani is a caring silverback and doing well with his family under the current living conditions. They have their ups and downs like all family no matter the species. My wish for them is abundance of food and more greenery. My feelings are mixed. I know they are an endangered species and were saved from a tough existence created by Man, who poaches and encroaches on their environment. And now they are safe and have food. And I also know some zoos have more resources than others to provide. In the end I just love them and endear them and my favorite is Nene. Beneath the quivering lower lip and wise eyes is a tender loving girl. She just touches my heart and hope she finds some peace in her dotage. It will be hard for her when Kiyo eventually leaves, No matter what love is ever-present.❤🧡💚💙💜

[@tracey9116]

The poor mountain gorillas are being forced to acclimate to human visitors, which gives them zero fear of poachers. These treks are horrible. And eastern Lowlands have open space just like mountain gorillas, but they're stuck within the conflict of the Congo where wars rage and little protection is in place for them with mass habitat loss. And the cross river gorillas have all that open space, but there are only 350 left last count and they clash with humans. The captive gorillas in these species protection programs have it very good. They have good food, comfort, thriving offspring, medical care and free from poaching and the stresses that their wild cousins are facing. I am certified in primate conservation, and everything I am telling you is the truth.

[@ForestGirlTeresa]

@@tracey9116I believe Shabani and his family are Lowland Gorillas.

[@joe_668]

@@tracey9116 and how do 500 captive western lowland gorillas make a difference for the rest? for starters, dew to very limited amount almost all of them are probably blood related already. also, what about gorillas who live alone their whole life like Rola and Monta? what are these programs are actually protecting - zoo owners money?

[@reneeosborne9117]

Beautiful! Lil Ladybug is my favorite too.

[@yolandathompson1585]

Let’s get Kiyo into his own group of females and also Gentaro!!! Why are you guys continuing to make them suffer for dominance????? This is bullshit!!!!!

[@jessihuey]

Not enough trees and greenery for them

[@racheleastwood5588]

Nene is a sweetie 💚💛

[@joegaito702]

They have feelings and emotions like anyone else right they make good parents and grandparents and uncles and aunties stay safe and warm out we laugh and learn and benefit from the gorillas thanks they are very smart and intelligent animals always learning something new each day from them hopefully cooler heads will prevail stay safe and warm out there love you guys thanks !!! Joe

[@lady4vols]

Shabani to Nene at 2:08, look you are not helping egging him on, let me handle him. Nene, umph….. no way Jose. Shabani, ok I tried to warn you.

[@jackclean64]

Just love watching this family

[@e_z_livn]

Don't think I've ever seen Shabani PO this length of time

[@walliegoolsby5389]

Shabain is not taking 💩 from Kiyo. If you piss off Shabain be ready to get your ass beat.

[@石田武-j6t]

14:56 シャバーニとキヨマサの両方を心配するアニーが健気で素敵😊❤

[@xerxezrax]

oh kiyo really got on shabani's nerves today, i havent seen him so agitated for so long

[@christine4064]

Daddy and son have the same face, same look ❤🦍

[@KathrynLong-fw9oi]

In the wild wouldn't Kiyomasa have been kicked out by now. Competition

[@kathleenquinn8538]

I love that you tell us who’s who!!!! Thanks❤😊❤😊

[@CaseyNahan]

I think the bark is louder then the bite with these wonderful gorillas😂

[@danielamiguel-j2n]

These lovely animals could not live in prision 😢😢😢

[@tatyanagolub6171]

Привет. Когда вы ведёте съёмку, всегда слышны голоса посетителей. Очень интересно наблюдать за поведением семьи Шабани. Равнодушных нет. Спасибо за видео, за ваш труд.

[@BrianBogiaBricky]

A teenager thinking he is an adult and testing his father. Not smart.

[@nicolenichols4917]

LMFAO!!! Brilliant footage😂😂😂

[@oldcatlover]

Can't wait to see how things work out❤! Thank you!❤❤😮❤❤

[@Kiowa371]

Yeah it’s time for Kiyo to get his own crib. This has to be stressful and exhausting for both Shabani and Kiyo. They have very little space to put distance between them. The zoo knew when Kiyo was born this day would come. There was an abundance of time for the zoo to properly prepare for a separation between dad and son; even if that meant building a separate residence for Kiyo. I stopped believing a long time ago that they cage these animals for protection. Annie was thickening up a bit but it appears she has lost weight again. I hope it’s just the angels of the camera. Typically Shabani and Kiyo make up and I’m hoping it’s sooner rather than later.

[@amirtamboli234]

These zoos really need to kick gentaro and kiyomasa out

[@tracey9116]

I'm sure their keepers and owners know when it's time to move. This is a careful process, as you can't just disrupt a gorilla family by plucking one out like this. And some of this is just created for drama.

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@tracey9116so they manage to do this all over the world. So tell me why Japan is the only place that haven't planned ahead. Your comment is irrelevant.

[@joe_668]

@@tracey9116 Japanese owners and keepers are doing an especially stellar job having reduced their number of gorillas from just 35 in 1999 to a much promising 20 this year. if they keep things up this way they would outdo some poachers' records😂

[@joegaito702]

They have there moments like anyone else they make good parents and grandparents and husbands and wives we laugh and learn and benefit from the gorillas thanks they are very smart and intelligent animals always learning something new each day from them god bless you guys thanks you guys rock wonder how rounds they are going through stay safe and warm out there love you guys thanks !!! Joe 😅😅😊

[@marionfrance8195]

Need to leave caption up on screen longer

[@marthaofeliaalvarez5561]

El muchacho está creciendo y amenaza el liderazgo de papá necesita un espacio propio creo yo

[@tracey9116]

Shabani and Kiyo with their stink battles. They'll be fine tomorrow. I really dislike how they're wasting Shabani's good genes. He's stuck with AI/NeNe, who show little interest in mating and havent reproduced in years!

[@birgitdeppe6742]

I am amused by the ladies in the audience: "oh...oh...oh...". 😂

[@nadinelemeur1939]

Shabani na pas perdu son sang froid comme notifié sur la video mais shabani en a marre des petits coups en douce de kyio. Les tensions sont vraiment beaucoup plus conflictuelles depuis quelques jours . shabani agit comme le chef du groupe réaction toute a fait Normal et logique .la place de kiyo est ailleurs un de c 4 malgré l amour que shabani a pour son fils kiyo va s en prendre une bonne . Les responsables sont le zoo !!!!!

[@sonjavandam1306]

Amen.👏

[@stevemorris6790]

Shabani was mad at Kiyo.

[@sonjavandam1306]

Mad, pissed off, I'm so happy you got to see them all before Shabani really hurt Kiyo.

[@stevemorris6790]

Hope not dear but it seems Shabani is more engaging now.

[@GuantanamoBayBarbie3]

Can anyone tell me why Nene's bottom jaw hangs like that? She doesn't appear to have any bottom teeth, either. Is it the result of an injury? Having had a broken jaw myself 27+ years ago, I'm wondering what caused the damage?

[@JCG4131]

This place is a concrete and steel prison and people pay to watch the daily psychological effects of an un-natural life and confinement of these unfortunate gorillas. Sad and pathetic. Should be illegal.

[@GrettaFrederick]

You can tell there is very I'll feelings between the two but they both hold back for now anyway

[@CarolLeslie-x5n]

What a god forsaken place for wild animals to find themselves, it brakes my heart.

[@LloydPrice520]

Breaks

[@Sarita-ci9wc]

Emotionally it must feel like you have someone else's shoes and they are on the wrong foot.

[@terrismith3359]

They, the zoo needs to move Kiyomasa out,

[@tracey9116]

All the people commenting about kicking Kiyomosa out are not their owners or keepers, have never worked with gorillas themselves. This is a very long process, as it doesn't happen in a day or a week. Plus, Nene would grieve horribly for Kiyo.

[@Pray925]

@@tracey9116it's done in gorilla enclosures all the time, Japan is just behind it their planning

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@tracey9116 They have had 10 yrs to organise their future. Of course it doesn't happen in one day or week. Do some more research on Japanese zoo's, there is a reason why they haven't moved any of the gorillas.

[@TheFlashyWeasel]

​@@sonjavandam1306yup, we all know they are lagging behind

[@sonjavandam1306]

​@@TheFlashyWeasel🤔

[@koookimama]

シャバーニ、よく来てるゴリラっぱさんに話を聞いて欲しかったんですかね😄 そこのシーンも撮影してたら、めちゃくちゃ貴重でしたね✨✨

[@SomethingAboutGorillas]

ほんとそうですよね。惜しいことをしました☺️

[@gregoryking65]

I thank the zoo is try to find bachelor for him it take a while to find the right gorilla

[@CaseyNahan]

You better run punk 😂😂😂😂

[@nancym5814]

Wow! I sure wouldn't want Shabani following me like that!! 😳🥶

[@VA4LVRS]

Nene always in the middle

[@sonjavandam1306]

🤔

[@averagejoe8849]

Payback for all of those times Shabani smacked the ever loving dog dookie out of her. She’s been playing the long game just waiting for Kiyo to become a powerhouse.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sonjavandam1306]

@@averagejoe8849 That is so true.🤕

[@flaviablanco8245]

Espero el zoo haga una sedición buena para el grupo y decidan separar padre e hijo a Lope se lo llevaron a Francia lo extraño mucho me enseñó muchísimo de los gorillas y a comprender por es necesario separarlos , lo más difícil fue aceptar que a Shufai lo castraron es la parte que más me enseñó y hoy lo entiendo espero ver un día Annie con Gentaro teniendo su propia familia y a mí adorado Lope con su propia familia eso sería un sueño cumplido 😘🦍💙🦍💙

[@chelseasavage3579]

Does this zoo have a place to put kiyo? like they do for Gentaro. I haven't heard of anything

[@barbpz]

Too small a space, Kyo should be moved out. Until then, Shabani should give the misbehaving gorillas a good cuff. He’s too gentle with them.

[@JanetWilkins-y3z]

The son and silverback will end up having terrible fight, hopefully the keepers will move son before that happens.

[@stephenmneedham]

Looks like Shabini wasn't exactly "pissed" he needed to be wiped. Walking around like that is embarrassing, Doesn't go well with Silver.

[@averagejoe8849]

They definitely like to turn sideways, curl those lips, arch those backs, and beat their chests to really sell the idea that they are unstoppable. But that fear dung always gives it away when a gorilla is actually shook.

[@karynsuepohlmeier2109]

Do they sleep in the basement or where do they sleep?

[@SomethingAboutGorillas]

They often sleep in basement.

[@debbiesmith7339]

How old are each of the gorillas?

[@SomethingAboutGorillas]

Shabani is 27 years old, and Kiyomasa is 11.

[@debbiesmith7339]

@@SomethingAboutGorillas and how old are the rest of them?

[@LindaRikkie]

I say this every time I comment. These animals are depressed.

[@chucknowakowski6676]

Why was shabani running away?

[@evalehnert1510]

Wo war da denn bitte ein Kampf ?,

[@mr.c1580]

Click Bate as usual...

[@barbpz]

Who is Shamini’s wife?

[@JodiPillow-p3j]

There living space is exactly like a prison theres no greenery really they need enclosures that are designed by imitating their natural enviroment they need more to engage then and stimulate them its no diff than prison enviroment you get alot of funding u meed to address there living space

[@LucyLu1965]

They need to be free!!!!!! In their inhabitant!!! NATURE!! TRESS GRASS AIR NOT LOCK UP IN A SMALL SPACE BOTED!! PPL WE NEED 2 STOP PAYING 4 DIZ KIND OF ABUSE.

[@Balletcalvero]

Looks like Shabani needed his backside washed

[@stevemorris6790]

I was there on this day and I can tell firmly that Shabani was clean and also his back!

[@angela10491]

Lets rumble lo😂

[@averagejoe8849]

I think Kiyo has Shabani shook. Had my dude dripping the fear dung.😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kaylie8580]

I didn’t see this, do you have a time stamp

[@averagejoe8849]

I think I see a little bit of runny fear dung hanging off Shabani’ back side. Kiyo has the old man shook.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@stevemorris6790]

Shabani was mad at Kiyo.