Most Powerful USB Outlet you can buy that won't burn your house down - Leviton 60 Watt

[@SilverCymbal]

⚡ *Safety Update at **2:41** You should ALWAYS cut the hooks off & re-strip new wire, after reviewing the directions further I realized the way I did it was not correct* ⚡ *Tools in the video* Leviton Outlet: amzn.to/472EccP - Wago 221s: amzn.to/47iZ683 - LCD Power Cable: amzn.to/46WE9zq - Outlet Tester: amzn.to/46FGXRQ - Plug in Power Meter: amzn.to/3FrKVkV - Wiha Screwdriver: amzn.to/474Cnwl

[@docferringer]

May I also recommend the Wago 221-61x series lever nuts? The 221-41x series handles 24-12 AWG and 20 amps but the 221-61x series supports 20-10 AWG wire and 30 amps. I bring them up because the biggest Wago haters always fret over them melting down from a poor connection. (They don't, plenty of stress testing So if you show a friend one of those debunking videos and he's still not convinced, tell him to get the 221-61x series instead. Their internal conductors are 10 AWG, so if your buddy manages to melt one of THOSE, explain to him that he's an idiot-savant who somehow pulled over 30 amps from his living room outlets....and that he should probably get an electrician to figure out why his breakers aren't tripping.

[@GadgetAddict]

Just a little tip. On your MacBook you can open 'System Information' and then scroll down to 'Power' and it will tell you the charging watts.

[@916medic]

You are a dad to many of us. We appreciate your videos. My dad knew how to fix everything but he past away 3 years ago. Now I can't call him for help like I used too, so now I just watch my KZbin dad. Thank you for the videos.

[@SilverCymbal]

Wow, what a nice thing to say. Thank you!

[@steffen707-]

Awesome job showing us the leviton using no watts standing still. I wondered this too. Sweet!

[@SilverCymbal]

I appreciate that, I wondered myself since I was sure it must be using 5 or 10 watts 24x7 It must using something but it must be millivolts as it didn't register.

[@steffen707-]

@@SilverCymbal I love my kilowatt meter. Discovered my dehumidifier was suckling $45 of electricity per month. 😱

[@festerofest4374]

@@steffen707-Might as well run the AC in that case!

[@graealex]

It is certainly using some power, but these cheap power meters lack the precision and resolution to show it, especially since the power factor in standby is often less than 0.1, meaning only a few percent of the power going in and out of the device is actually consumed.

[@FSX239]

I used to work for Leviton in the early 2000. Good company

[@SilverCymbal]

Thats good to hear. They are one of the few companies that hasn't gone down the tubes over the years. Electricians like them too, so if you pay one to install this at least the electrician can trust it.

[@FSX239]

@@SilverCymbal I know several designers from back in the day when we were located in Little Neck,NY. Great times. The Levetons were fair and generous with the employees back then.

[@AgentOffice]

​@@SilverCymbalit's hard to go down when there's codes and industrial use

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

Wagos are definitely a lifesaver, I had to install a new outlet that had 9 wires running through it & The 4 Holed Wagos made installation a lot easier.

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, I have used over 100 of them since i moved to my new place and they are still the best. So glad you are liking them too

[@user-em6ie2be7x]

@@SilverCymbal Thanks for telling us about the free Wagos, Wago was offering a while back.

[@SilverCymbal]

@@user-em6ie2be7x My pleasure, I was so happy they did that. They had sent out over 50,000 sample packs! Crazy

[@docferringer]

Am I the only one who saw the giant Wago before I saw the laptop? This must be the tech equivalent of the straight-or-gay test.

[@EphemeralPhase]

I have two of the 30W outlets in my house (T5635), it's really handy being able to power a device with PD and still connect up to two AC cords. Now I'm considering upgrading one of them to 60W.

[@kg4gav]

I like the concept, and I'm sure that the price will become more reasonable after initial sales cover the design and marketing costs. Of course, now that Leviton has done the R&D, other brands are sure to follow, driving costs down further. If these get to a price point that is slightly above the cost of a 60W USB-C brick, I'm sure they will be more widely accepted.

[@John_Ridley]

A stand-alone good quality USB C 2 port 60 watt charger is $40, this is only about double that, for cramming it into the outlet and using more sophisticated circuitry because of the need to keep the heat generation down, the price isn't bad.

[@ericklein5097]

@@John_Ridleynah you can get them for $20 all day now. Yeah Anker might be charging $40 for it but there are Chinese knockoffs around the $12 mark now. $40 is what I’d pay for a 100W charger

[@John_Ridley]

@@ericklein5097 Go watch some of Big Clive's videos before you buy a Chinese knock-off charger. After one of his videos I went around my house, found and threw away EVERY non-name-brand charger I had. Some of the ones he has reviewed could easily kill you.

[@ericklein5097]

@@John_Ridley watch most of them. Test them pretty thoroughly to see if there are any sketchy things going on

[@John_Ridley]

@@ericklein5097 The big problem is insufficient clearance between low and high voltage circuitry. This could easily work 100% fine for years, then one day when there's a lot of humidity in the air or a bit of dust falls in the wrong place, suddenly the mains voltage arcs over to the cable going to your phone. Hope you aren't holding it at the time.

[@MJF40]

That Klein outlet in the background is great. Got 2 of them ! Magnetic too.

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, for a plug in version it's awesome. I love that they have the holes too in the front, many ways to mount it. amzn.to/3Sad6wh Good design with that one.

[@n9wox]

I think a metal box would help dissipate the heat better.

[@KaceyGreen]

Pretty cool and thanks for doing the leg work. I had to install a couple ceiling fans the other day and my dad is now a Wago convert, we had to re do a couple of connections with stranded and solid wire and he noted that the wire nuts would have shredded them on the 2nd or 3rd connection. (remote module didn't want to fit in the slot so we had to flip it twice). He was skeptical at first but the strip gauge and the ease of one-handed use, I think I'll get him a box for the next holiday.

[@blinky444]

Great stuff as always...consistently one of the best DIY channels on all of youtube... Quick additional note on "best practices" for electrical...Wagos are safe, solid, and time efficient...but put a quick wrap of electrical tape around the levers once the connections are made... This protects against any levers catching and being forced back open as you pack your connections back into the box to close things up... Also ALWAYS trim off old loops to guard against metal fatigue... Love this channel...

[@shauncho6738]

If I had a need I'd totally buy one! Glad to hear they finally got over the heat issue.

[@youdontknowme5969]

Ooh! I thought this was a GreatScott! video before playing. LOL?? These would be awesome in hotels 😍

[@ruftime]

Thank you! Love my kill-a-watt meter!

[@SilverCymbal]

Best little tool around!

[@StanislavJochman]

You can monitor it. Go to settings > General > System report > Power > AC power

[@Pallidus_Rider]

Leviton is a top knotch brand. I've only used that brand as it is readily available at local hardware store. Curious if there is an Eaton equivalent, as Eaton is also a top knotch brand. 🤔

[@vivian9803]

Thank you! This is great and I would buy it because I hate having so many charging blocks and cords all over the place.

[@rafflesmaos]

FWIW, the Amerisense is in the UL database under "Ningbo Daiboer International Trading Co Ltd". Amerisense is their branding for the international market, I suspect. That particular outlet that you show is the "15A65W2C1A" model I believe.

[@brnscofrnld]

My wife is in the market for a new laptop, and USB-C charging is one of the features we are looking for... This outlet already has a place in my house where I would install at least one to plug the laptop in while she is working and not have to lug the brick around with her.

[@anuvarghesein]

The secret sauce is GAN devices. Its a relatively newer type. Smaller in size and lower thermal footprint. You will start see more of these devices in market

[@Jameson4327]

I have three of them and I’m happy with them.

[@mikeak7331]

Cool. I would be interested in seeing temps inside the box if there was a way.

[@vladimus9749]

Definitely! I was hoping this video would cover that. Would be easy with a thermometer with a thermocouple/temp probe. I won't buy one until I see some comprehensive temperature tests running at full load.

[@donh6416]

Use an IR (infrared) thermometer. It reads temps with an aim/point infrared beam.

[@sibat777]

Hi Chris I’m in the Uk so this particular products didn’t apply to me, just wondered if this is a Gallium based charger as they are smaller and run cooler. Looked on the Leviton website but couldn’t see an answer. As always these things are built to a price point so I suspect not. Enjoying your channel content👍👍

[@Tithis]

I've guessing switching to gallium nitride was a factor in this. Vs silicon they can be right around 50% of the size, so that matches well with the prior max rating being 30watts

[@OptimusSatanas]

Most any high quality chargers have moved to GaN

[@KG5RK]

Very INFORMATIVE !

[@MrKeithsplace]

One thing I would recommend, even though it is UL approved, that means in any deep box, I would recommend the metal deep old work box, that way even more heat is dissipated, as that all metal band around the outlet is a heat sink and will help disparate the heat much more than possibly deteriorating or melting the cheap plastic boxes.

[@graealex]

To measure the very low standby power, you need a proper measurement device that can also integrate (for example GPM-8310). Although the measurement isn't super-important, as for good-quality chargers, it is less than 50mW usually, and it would remain irrelevant even if it was 100mW or 250mW. However, no particular test on output voltages is bad. I have multiple rather expensive chargers that internally only have one rail. Effectively it means that attaching a low-power device like a phone (5-9V typically) will downgrade the whole charger to that voltage, even on the secondary port. 9V is usually not enough to charge laptops at all. So in the end you get 18W, not 30W+30W.

[@jacobs492]

came here to see the Leviton, and fell in love with the wago lol

[@kylelarson6054]

As some people have previously stated, unless required by code for certain regions, it would be far better to use a metal junction box to help disappate the heat from the charger. As well, even though I dont disagree with the use of wagos, when installed properly a wire nut will give a bigger surface of contact between the wires allowing the temperature to be cooler at the termination point. If heat is the driving factor that is the better choice. However as this channel is geared more towards DIY advice wago is still a safe option for sure.

[@Bobis32]

the reason they said these were impossible is actually the space required to convert to 60w DC however since then GAN(Gallium Nitride) Chargers have made their debut pushing 120w in the space of some 10-15w charger bricks

[@jonpferreira]

Love the concept. Just wish a reputable company made a split circuit outlet with usb. That would be ideal for my situation.

[@invictusaeternum]

This channel is going to get me into so much trouble. subscribed.

[@Samlol23_drrich]

Great as usual. Thanks.

[@SilverCymbal]

Thank you I really appreciate it.

[@woods-garage]

Good video, thanks. I’d like to hear a follow up at 1 year and 2 years please. I’ve installed several of these with lower power capability, and they always failed in less than 2 years. Hope the Leviton one lasts.

[@gliveron]

Excellent and solid demo information, well done sir. Also ideal for use with Windows based laptops too.

[@brainz-brainz]

I have the Amerisense. Its UL listed, seems to work well so far.

[@stargazer2504]

I feel like... no matter what we do to upgrade our houses, the technology keeps changing to need further upgrades. First we got USB-A 2 watts. Then we got USB-A 2.4 watts. Then USB-A 3.0 watts. Then USB-C 2 watts.... etc. Now, we need GFCI in most locations, so replace your outlets again. And they made GFCI with USB-A ports. Then GFCI with USB-C ports. Oh and don't forget "now needs tamper resistant..." Then we have these with no GFCI but with high wattage and it's tamper resistant. 2 years from now the USB port will need to be tamper resistant. And then GFCI And then AFCI Then they'll design USB-E ports and we'll need 100 watt ports, but they won't be tamper resistant.... and the cycle starts all over again. I give up.

[@erlendse]

100W is the old limit, and 240W is the new USB-C power limit. I do NOT expect them to allow more power. (240W use 48V and I somehow doubt they will go beyond 50V) Besides, with more efficient lamps, laptops, phones, TV, e.t.c. I am not too convinced the need for high power will be that much around.

[@electricianron_New_Jersey]

Great video!

[@clarkharms]

This is a good solution and I have installed several in my houses in key locations, however this is way over priced. $80 makes this the Ferrari of outlets and few of us will need such high performance. I get 3 packs of these that are maybe 30 watts and they are $20 for the three pack. I had problems with bricks and charge cords being lost then I labeled them and assigned them to my children to hold them accountable when they went missing. That helps with them being “lost”.

[@dennismacwilliams196]

How cool. Thank's for the info...

[@emmettturner9452]

“Just use the brick that comes with your device” **iPhone and others following suit by shipping without wall plugs uneasily shift their eyes left and right**

[@OptimusSatanas]

He was referring to laptops, so yeah, your joke doesnt really work.

[@emmettturner9452]

@@OptimusSatanas Watch again. He hadn’t even brought up notebooks yet and the whole reason to say “device” instead was to make it more broad. Plenty of other USB-C devices don’t come with chargers. That’s half the point of standardizing and mandating it. It also wouldn’t make sense to imply that USB-C would only be used with MacBooks and Chromebooks.

[@jmsaltzman]

Thank you for posting, I didn't know Leviton had cracked the code! Bummer it's so big: my house has small boxes. I wish there were a version with the USB C on the bottom and a single outlet on top: should let the designers make it shallower. 90% of what I plug and unplug these days is some form of AC-DC converter :o

[@jdbrinton]

A perfectly thorough product review! Covered all my questions. Thanks!

[@emmettturner9452]

Waiting for these to come down with Economies of Scale and then I’ll buy a dozen.

[@AFpaleoCon]

I also was considering getting these in many rooms of my house but 1. They don't seem to sell them yet at the big box stores and 2. They are VERY expensive.

[@CaelThunderwing]

something like this would be a godsend to gamers that have things like a Quest 2 or 3 Headset, or a Steamdeck.

[@somewhatboxes]

i saw a comment somewhere in here voicing anxiety about USB-C ports being obsolete in a couple of years. it's very likely that some future iteration on USB power delivery will allow for more power, but that's a totally different thing from the fear that these ports won't be usable in the future. the USB standard has been great about preserving backwards compatibility. if you have a USB cable from ~25 years ago, you could use it in a charger you buy off amazon today. i would be more worried about the ergonomics of the USB port being all the way back at the wall. i charge a lot of stuff by USB, but USB cables are often pretty short (there just isn't a super strong market for them to be very long, since a long power cord is a lot cheaper). most people i know use a USB power adapter that has a power cord attached to it that snakes its way back to the wall. that way, you can also put something behind it like a bookshelf or couch or something. this also introduces another fear: something knocking into the outlet from the side and breaking the USB cable. i feel like flat power plugs are really common, but i've never seen a flat USB charging cable. i've seen some cables that come out at an angle, but there would always be a conspicuous piece that could get caught if you sweep across it from the side or something. this kind of combo outlet makes a lot more sense to me in something like a countertop setup, or at an outlet that's at or above a desk tabletop. if you connect this downstream of a GFCI outlet in a kitchen, i bet this would be perfect for a lot of people.

[@my3dviews]

Unless you want to be tied to one outlet with your laptop, a brick is still better, since it can be used anywhere with a regular outlet. You will likely need a fairly long USB-C cord to use it as well.

[@williamreinhard]

I would like this because I could just leave my brick in my backpack for travel, since I always use my laptop in the same place at home it would make cable management easier. This is rather expensive for a minor convenience, though.

[@erlendse]

Other option: lots of USB-C outlets around the house. Maybe not quite yet tho!

[@thedanyesful]

I love how you talk about losing the adapter and saying the outlet is 'pretty universal' and then cut to a shot with a hacked up kill-a-watt and the outlet bare wired on your desk like you're just going to throw that set up in your laptop bag and go :P I don't like the way the USB plugs in flush to the wall. Seems like a recipe for broken connectors/cables. Would have been better if they provided some protection by either recessing the port or making a guard that sticks out to protect the cable.

[@charlesdoesmore5488]

Yes you can use it in 60 Watts, if you have a Power Delivery 60W compatible device

[@tacocin]

Nice! I like it!

[@JessicaFEREM]

yea you can get a charger that's outside the outlet for $20-30 and then just get a $2-3 normal outlet, or even gfci.

[@brothermine2292]

And the bricks are portable.

[@JessicaFEREM]

@@brothermine2292 real

[@andrewt9204]

If you have kids, those bricks get lost all the time unless you keep a close eye on the things. I installed a couple USB outlets at friends house because of this. Half the time the cables would be lost too, but there aren't many solutions for that.

[@andrewk8636]

Then do that. Some of use prefer this method

[@Jbiglin]

Don’t the charging bricks like the Apple one you showed have “intelligent circuitry” that helps regulate the power going into the laptop? Or is that totally handle by the laptop these days?

[@marcr1333]

Usually both. A good device will have its own regulation. But great devices will communicate, like power deliver (PD) so full wattage, then slow, then maybe trickle. But devices without any smart future in either end will usually overcharge. Think bad vape devices.

[@andy_byrd]

It must be using Galium Nitride (GaN) which is becoming more and more common to greatly reduce the size of usb power bricks!

[@John_Ridley]

"you will always have solid wire in your walls" - not everywhere. Some jurisdictions require all wiring in conduit (Chicago for instance) in which case it will be stranded. But the Wago is the right answer even stranded to stranded, IMO.

[@Framdark]

Wiring is solid core pretty much everywhere Chicago just requires conduit to be run instead of using romex

[@John_Ridley]

@@Framdark Ever try to pull solid core through conduit? Everyone I know who lives there uses stranded.

[@Framdark]

@@John_Ridley our house has solid could be different in different areas of Chicago

[@sarreqteryx]

why didn't Leviton throw their leverlocks (like on Decora Edge outlets and switches) on this thing?

[@jeffp7368]

Where I live Romex is unusable. Well, you can use it but you’ll fail an inspection every time.

[@bojiguy2005]

Looks neat, however, I wonder how much power is wasted due to parasitic power consumption.

[@anthonytriana4209]

Do you have a recommendation for a good in home surge protector? I have a surge protector on almost all outlets.

[@panemon187]

I've had these new USB receptacles for awhile and they seem to be holding up well. My furnace went out and I had to use these on spliced 12AWG stranded CU to 10AWG AL running 1500 watts for many hours on 15A receptacle, they held up nicely for the 2 months we were running electric heat on high loads for many hours at a time. The ones I used are Leviton brand, but the regular usb ones. Never had any issues using them. I also inspected my Alumiconns after running those heavy loads, and no issues. I don't know about these newer USB C ones though.

[@coreybabcock2023]

Sheetz in Gaithersburg md has those outlets in the gas station

[@NoZenith]

Nice!

[@davidperry4013]

If you cannot afford the 60w Leviton dual USB C outlet. The 30w version is still a much better choice than the inferior brand that claims to be 60w or higher. Hopefully Leviton makes a GaN versionz

[@ChristianWagner888]

I see a lot of comments on Amazon that it does not work on all PD profiles. Apparently it gets even more unpredictable when plugging in two devices. This points to a deeper problem with adding sophisticated electronics that is outdated within 5 years to fixed outlets that normally last at least 20 years. Even though the USB-C standard plug is expected to be around for a long time, there are so many variations and changes in charging standards that future devices may not fully work. I would rather have my short-lived constantly updating electronics devices (including chargers) plugged in than integrated into the wall.

[@erlendse]

That's more a question about compliance. The power delivery standard likely stays for a long time. The manufacturer spesific charge protocols are best to ignore, so they don't manage to become common. Things like quickcharge, vooc, e.t.c. should not be supported, while the official one should!

[@aq6825]

The ol automatic house burner-downer

[@EugWanker]

@6:18 Ning bo hai shu de shi pu dian zi shang wu you xian gong si Rough translation: Ningbo city Haishu district ... e-commerce company limited I'm not sure to what "de shi pu" refers, but there is a Shipu Harbour near Ningbo. But yeah, that Amerisense product sounds pretty sketchy.

[@edfx]

So, does it get dangerously hot in the electrical box or not?

[@SilverCymbal]

I left it charging my ecoflow for 2 hours and the outlet felt warm but nothing crazy, I have felt hotter AC adpaters in open air. Leviton runs the massive risk of lawsuits if products fail and they need to test them in crowded boxes, different kinds oif walls, etc. So you have to put some faith in the certifications and company but I saw no issues with this at all.

[@Blaira89]

When can we get a black version of this outlet?

[@EnriqueEduardoGuillenPaz]

@SilverCymbal Will it work with only one homepod mini plugged or any other smart speaker that requires 9A?

[@tedlahm5740]

Have not heard from you in some time. Preventing mice intrusion?

[@T-money0985]

Seen them on Amazon before. My issue is the cost. It is the same cost as a mobile charger. So to put a $60 + outlet in that is stuck there does not help me. Maybe someone that goes between home and work to the same location with a laptop.

[@JWill6969]

Whats your opinion on the Anker Wall Outlet that came out recently. I feel like that is also a pretty decent alternative to this product.

[@psiah9889]

Personally don't trust Anker anymore, considering what they and their subbrands have done. Probably fine if you just use stuff that doesn't connect to the internet, but when trust is breached it's awfully hard to earn back.

[@fikayodavies6540]

how do you get your leaves raked for the fall?

[@gaveintothedarkness]

It would be nice to buy one and put it in a strategic location like next to my desk or bed where I have a need for chargers.

[@xcissors]

can they make one with a 60w USB C connector and a USB A connector?

[@andrewk8636]

Topgreener has had one out for a while now and it actually supports pps. Theyve always been way ahead of leviton and other brands with usb standards. Wish the mainstream brands would step up their game

[@psiah9889]

Moving that fast means less testing, and more risks. Brands like Leviton want to be sure their devices, when placed into walls, will last like 20~30 years, and you can't do the testing to verify that right when the new standards come out. Meanwhile your random Chinese brands aren't really concerned about longterm support. A lot of them "go out of business" every six months or so. A few are more reliable, but for the most part they're all using the same part from the same factory with a different label. It's cheap as hell and can support the latest standards because the development turnaround is so quick, but every so often something will go wrong. It's all in how much risk you're willing to take. And for me, personally? If installed inside the wall I want as little risk as possible. But for something that just plugs in I'll roll the dice.

[@SilverCymbal]

I looked at that one as well. It has no safety certifications (no independent tests) and there are 15 reviews all stating the "USB stopped working within 30 days". Just be careful

[@rafflesmaos]

@@SilverCymbal It is UL listed and I verified that it's in the productiq database. Leviton is not too much better in this regard as their 30w unit also has plenty of reviews complaining of the USB ports stopping charging.

[@JasonB808]

Not all laptops can be powered with the USB C ports . There are high powered laptops that require 100 to even 200 watts when in use running high intensity apps. He only tested the wattage of a Mac Book in idle when it wasn’t processing anything. He should try it again while running Cinebench and see the wattage that it takes using the included power brick on the normal socket with a Fayleeko Power Meter or similar. The higher wattage are for high performance laptops with the top end Discrete GPUs (GeForce RTX 3080 or RTX 4080 and 4090).. Those would still need their own power brick.

[@OptimusSatanas]

Duh? Also, the laptop wont take more power than it its specced regardless of what benchmark program you run.

[@erlendse]

Would that reveal anything new? The connected device knows max power (USB-PD involve negotating details), so the laptop/other would limit the power taken from it. Whatever more would have to come from other chargers or battery, or the machine would have to limit power.

[@dragonfireproductions790]

as a firefighter and an electrician i recommend placing a properly rated breaker in line with the outlet just so that you can make sure it will not cause problems, or if you wanna replace it in the future you can simply shut off the breaker and replace it

[@platoscavealum902]

Amazon reviews aren’t very good for this product. (There seems to be some compatibility issues with certain types of devices.)

[@ChrisTinaBruceFitness]

Is there an option for a series outlet?

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

He's like Batman if he was an everyday stay-at-home Dad.

[@MikeDawson1]

did they switch to GaN instead of Silicon, in order to shrink it down?

[@SilverCymbal]

Great point! I think they must have, the specs don't list it but I don't think they could do it any other way.

[@ewicky]

Whoah, where did you get the 1 foot tall wago model?

[@SilverCymbal]

I was very lucky, they had one on the Efixx channel and I did a Wago video for them two years ago that got millions of views. It was unsponsored, no money, etc. They wrote me about a year after the video and were super appreciative. I begged them for one of the models and about 6 months later it showed top in the mail! I put a little unboxing on my instgram. I told them they should sell them but I guess they are for marketing only

[@cheddarcheese]

What is the output voltage of the USB? Is it multi-voltage 5, 9, 12, 20?

[@andrewt9204]

It's USB PD, so yes. Not sure if 3.0 or not, which would support PPS if your phone has it.

[@74357175]

The reason it's possible now is the move to Gallium Nitride (GaN) 👍

[@Wegetsignal]

Wondering if it's safe to be both charging at the rated wattage as well as pulling 1200w from the outlet together.

[@Mark-kt5mh]

Yes, pulling AC amps on a receptacle will only generate a small amount of heat from the resistance of the conductors. In comparison to the heat generated and dispated from the built-in rectifier, it's negligible

[@Michaeldashizz]

I literally just installed a 30w USB C Leviton… yesterday… I didn’t realize they had a 60w… smh

[@vinstinct]

How much was the 30 watt one? The 60 watt is $80.

[@Michaeldashizz]

@@vinstinct At my Home Depot in Central Florida the 30w was $39.99 and a 2 pack of 25w was $60

[@bravobrk]

I'm cheap, and $80 is a high price, but i will most likely put these in a couple of spots in the house where devices tend to congregate. If the price was around $50 i would install these in more places. I would risk a cheaper power brick outside the outlet and if it breaks or over heats i can unplug it and throw it out. Cant do that with an outlet and it's not worth the risk for a no brand name to live inside my walls.

[@laz7354]

I was all into it until the 6:15 - 6:25 mark where you $hared the $urpri$ingly high co$t

[@coreybabcock2023]

Yes stranded to solid wire is a pain in the @$$ to keep together

[@MikeHarris1984]

What makes this possible now is the new tech using GaN

[@Samlol23_drrich]

Another thing for me to look up. Thanks a lot.....

[@chowner]

$80 bones though. That's pricey!!

[@SilverCymbal]

Agreed, they are great for a spot you will use all the time but for the price needs to be carefully considered.

[@chowner]

@@SilverCymbal yeah. Seems great for kitchen outlets. Probably will get a couple. Thanks

[@dcviper985]

Your insurance premiums will go up more than that if you burn your house down.

[@chowner]

@@dcviper985 I didn't realize not installing these would cause my house to burn down. Interesting

[@tricogustrico]

the wire in my walls is 12g stranded. Not a fan of usb wall recepticles

[@americandude3825]

Wagos are the wa-to-go

[@Flowing23]

👍👍

[@dantruong2582]

Considering how many changers have failed over the years and how charging standards has changed with the times. I'd rather not have to change out the entire outlet every time. Rather think long term.

[@BasedBidoof]

I'm too paranoid that the feds would sneak in my house and bug the wall charger to install these

[@justonbrazda3846]

Anker has a much smaller 60 watt charher

[@gutrali]

You should have left the USB-C outlet plugged in to power for a bit and then used an IR camera to see how much heat it generates. You will see it is not nothing. You could have also used a multi-meter in current measurement mode to see milliamps which is a bit more resolution than your plug-in power meter can measure. The outlet may not use a lot of power, but it definitely uses some and does so 24/7/365. It can cost you as much as the price of the outlet in a year if you do the math. Most people wont notice it, but it is not actually nothing as you claim

[@brothermine2292]

Please show your math, in particular the device's power consumption when not in use.

[@gutrali]

@@brothermine2292 brother , I think you missed the part where I said " if _you_ do the math" 🤣👍 That's okay, don't feel bad, you'll get em next time

[@andrewt9204]

Every watt is about $1/year. I highly doubt it uses more than 1 or 2. My kill-a-watt starts reading at about 2 or 3W and is pretty accurate that low down. Math for clarity: 1W x 24hr = 24Wh x 365 = 8760Wh. 8.7kWh x $0.12/kWh = $1.05/yr

[@Sunlessilver]

I need one with GFCI

[@TennisGvy]

6:30 is just the Chinese company's name written in pinyin (romanization of Chinese characters/sounds)