Are “Unsearched” Wheat Penny Rolls on eBay a Scam? Should You Buy Them?

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@thealmostcoolkid6345
@thealmostcoolkid6345 4 жыл бұрын
I think if these rolls were actually "unsearched" there would be a lot more mint state coins. If that first roll were actually from 1955, I think at least the 1955 penny wouldn't be as dark and circulated as it is.
@calebpeterson5981
@calebpeterson5981 4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to say that
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@earladams2836
@earladams2836 4 жыл бұрын
I agree also. And on another subject, I see advertised DDO & DDR coins that are not, they are "machine doubling" or also known as "mechanical doubling." If one is going to put a "MD" on ebay, say so in the post. Be very careful young collectors.
@bigapplebucky
@bigapplebucky 4 жыл бұрын
I was searching $50 bags of cents back in the 1950's. Yes, you would have seen nice shiney coins from the 50's as well as a few nicer looking coins from the 40's and 30's. Definitely a scam. And not a good one either since the seller will have zero repeat customers and poor feedback. I've bought a good number of "unsearched" rolls on eBay over the years. If the ends are shown they usually represent at least half to 95% of the value of the entire roll. But sometimes they are fun and not a horrible value. Those three rolls are among the worst I've ever seen.
@bennyonquack
@bennyonquack 3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD
@music7744
@music7744 4 жыл бұрын
All those cents are beat to hell. They've been searched and wrapped... they sold all they're garbage super slick coins
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
100% Cory
@coloradude8649
@coloradude8649 4 жыл бұрын
I actually found a Vdb in one of these one time and I was freaking out.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That is super awesome Wyatt! Definitely not the norm, though
@andrew0919
@andrew0919 4 жыл бұрын
Same but you may not believe me because I found TWO.
@nodadchad6994
@nodadchad6994 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Brenda-qm4sy
@Brenda-qm4sy 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was terrible. I have quite a few Wheat Pennies. Ranging from 1864 and on. Does anyone know a Coin Shop I could trust in the Phx Area. Thx in Advance. 🤗 Oh they were not just Wheat Pennies there are also Indian Head Pennies as well.
@roopeharju9662
@roopeharju9662 4 жыл бұрын
What is vcb, sory im european.
@RealManveerSaini
@RealManveerSaini 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda like watching videos like these. I, being an eBay seller always try find ways to be the most honest seller out there. What to avoid doing and what to good tips there are. The way I do it ( and the way those other seller SHOULD do it) I buy sacks of 10,000 pennies, sacks of 5,000 pre-40’s wheat cents, sacks of 1,000 Indian head cents, and just to be different from others seated and barber dimes about 100 thrown into the mix. I have plenty of these coins so I don’t need them. I throw them through a coin sorter and they go into rolls. I tighten them up and ship them. I don’t even know what some rolls have. Plus I sell them for a low price. 6.75. Enough to make profit and plenty of room for buyers to find great finds. And that’s how it should be. I have no idea why people don’t get how to be honest. People are maybe too greedy. It’s honestly so sad to see people get manipulated by these scammers out here. Plus it makes all the rest of us HONEST sellers look bad. I dont know but there’s my rant.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Manveer, I am so happy to hear that you make sure to put value in the rolls you make. There's nothing wrong with earning a profit as long as the seller and the buyer are on the same page in terms of implied value. Keep it up!
@janellesonoda7484
@janellesonoda7484 2 жыл бұрын
Greedy people are never satisfied and dishonesty to some is just making a profit. I admire what you wrote. Thank you.
@ryansoncrypto
@ryansoncrypto 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a collection recently with thousands of wheat cents many look uncirculated. Also had two bank rolls of 1959 P and D the first year of the new design. So many to sort through.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Man, that sounds awesome! That's the kind of wheat cents that are worth looking through!
@smiletrap27
@smiletrap27 4 жыл бұрын
Him:the roles are expensive Me when I saw some rolls on Ebay for $6: 😐
@jacobthecoincollector9962
@jacobthecoincollector9962 3 жыл бұрын
There’s $4 ones which is a reasonable price, but they are searched too.
@sushirolls7118
@sushirolls7118 4 жыл бұрын
Hi silverpicker I love watching your videos! I'm an 18 year old girl from Australia and I'm starting out collecting coins, and I stumbled across one of your videos the other week when searching for coin videos, and I've been watching your videos ever since 😀 keep up the good work 👍
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sushi Rolls! Than you so much for your support. Also, I'm really happy that you commented because I feel like girls often get forgotten about in this community, so I'm glad you're so vocal :) Hope to hear more from you!
@sushirolls7118
@sushirolls7118 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker Thankyou so much for the reply! 😀
@rishigaming9708
@rishigaming9708 3 жыл бұрын
Australia is an island. Why did you scroll down?
@social3ngin33rin
@social3ngin33rin 4 жыл бұрын
I am suspicious, there should be some really old pennies in there if it was actually unopened; I don't think coin collecting really took off until much later. I am absolutely certain my family has unopened rolls from my grandma, they have excellent rolled edges. They were more than capable of rolling coin wraps tight back in the day!!! I'm fairly certain you were scammed
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
You and I have come to the same conclusion by different means lol
@CircHistory
@CircHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a possibility!!!
@AlPalC
@AlPalC 4 жыл бұрын
Another sign of these being tampered with is the lack of Steele cents. There wasn't a single 1943 in there and those are super common
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's also a good point.
@rumblebars
@rumblebars 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, your suspicions make a lot of sense to me. Or maybe 150 cents. Watching this video made me go and get my coin collection box. In it are 12 rolls of pennies, that I got 30 years ago when a friend of mine who was working the register at a gas station called me to come over and he had something for me. Someone must have raided a collection, and spent those 6 dollars I think on ciggies, and they were all machine wrapped rolls. With writing on them... 1957 to 1960, some were P some D. And obviously uncirculated. I think the only rolls I ever opened were the 1960s because I needed to find out small date or large date, but I only looked at the first coin or two in each roll. Oh, I think I took out a wheatie because I'd never held an uncirculated one before. I might have robbed one to put in a coin album, but put the others back, and tried to fold the roll ends back over. So I know what it looks like when rolls from that era are end-opened and re-shut. These kind of looked like that. However these were already kind of beat up even then, and they got more so over the years. I don't know if they are worth more unsearched or not, but I've resisted opening them up to see if they really are all totally uncirculated inside, but the enders certainly are.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you have some serious self control! Most people would have torn into those rolls by now! Thanks for the intel also!
@kendrick-jv3lg
@kendrick-jv3lg 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, there are a lot of tell tale signs. There would definitely be a lot of coins that still had the mint luster. The rolls should not have opened that easily. Sure two of them were more tightly packed, but once you got past the front, it just kind of fell open easily. If it was unsearched and unopened, then you would expect a tear, like you do when searching modern coins today. Amazing content, I love it, I truly do. I've been watching your channel for quite awhile and it is extremely informative. I'm only 16 and this is one of the few special channels that has enhanced my coin collecting hobby. You do truly amazing work, thank you!
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the high praise, Kendrick! Means a lot to me that my videos have enriched your experience of this amazing hobby :)
@josepchwill1304
@josepchwill1304 4 жыл бұрын
Some rolls are unsearched on eBay. You just have to buy from the right seller. I have found multiple semi-key dates buying rolls from the seller I get them. Also, there have been different RPMs. The rolls I bought I also required pliers to open. One couldn't go as far as saying every seller is a scammer. Thanks for another video.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I've had good experiences on eBay too. What I would say is that when in doubt, it's probably good practice to assume that it's not legit. Thanks for watching :)
@josepchwill1304
@josepchwill1304 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker It's something I enjoy doing, I have found quite a few upgrades for my album searching through older rolls.
@ericthegreat1108
@ericthegreat1108 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and as a police officer assigned to investigations I totally agree, 1958 heavy used cent does not pass the smell test for me as well. Hope you gave bad Ebay feedback and filed a complaint with Ebay as well.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's high praise! Thank you. Regrettably, I didn't get to film this video until a couple months after I bought it, and by then it was too late to give feedback. I'm almost considering buying more just to give negative feedback and return it.
@mam362
@mam362 2 жыл бұрын
Statistically you could create a frequency distribution of the years on the coins, and if that distribution significantly differs from the typical distribution of years in what are known to be unsearched rolls, you could all but conclude that the roll was searched (you would use a chi-square goodness of fit test to show this)
@alsamiyasfh4416
@alsamiyasfh4416 3 жыл бұрын
A got a lot of 500 wheats off eBay for 20 bucks as a kid and I did really well! I got two 1909s, a 1914 s, an AU 1928 d, an 1888 Indian head, loads of coins pre-1920 (most were VG to VF condition), a few steels in AU condition and even a few BU coins from the 50s. I remember having a blast looking through those coins. So I’d say it really depends on the seller wether or not a wheat lot is actually unsearched, in my case they were.
@DaBombGD
@DaBombGD 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly the newer ones like the 50’s should be pretty shiny for it to really be unsearched.
@prohamburger22
@prohamburger22 4 жыл бұрын
who agrees he should do bankstrap searching?
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Aidan, I definitely will!
@wardwheels373
@wardwheels373 4 жыл бұрын
What is bankstrap searching?
@brucecoulter312
@brucecoulter312 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a new subscriber. Thanks for the video. I'm new to the numismatic world and took a chance on a roll of buffalo nickels. Going by his auction, I got what I paid for: A variety of dates and conditions. Unfortunately, 11 of the nickels had no date, 6 were 1936 and another 6 were 1937. None of the coins were better than fair, and that's giving them be benefit of the doubt. But live and learn. You've earned a follower!
@papagiorgio5894
@papagiorgio5894 4 жыл бұрын
The one way you can tell if they are rerolled is when you unroll them, the outer paper is darker than the inner paper. If the paper is evenly toned all the way through the roll, then it was manufactured (i.e. reRolled) recently.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Very good to know
@isaiahwinter4617
@isaiahwinter4617 4 жыл бұрын
I thinks as of the first roll they are looked through with some common teens and 20s to avoid suspicion from people buying them
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I think they did as well
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 4 жыл бұрын
These rolls are targeted at new collectors so someone new finds a penny that old and they think age=value.
@All_Noing
@All_Noing 3 жыл бұрын
You've been had! I just found, among other cents, a 1926 in MS6x state in a roll from Loomis. Greatest hobby ever.
@dai-nippon_digger
@dai-nippon_digger 4 жыл бұрын
I got one roll of recently wrapped wheaties from a shop and it was amazing. 60% of the coins were pre-forties and it had a huge variety of dates. It also had one steel cent in it and a couple 40s in AU.
@nathanab5411
@nathanab5411 4 жыл бұрын
Heze A what was the shop
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! How much was it?
@ethanparker3135
@ethanparker3135 4 жыл бұрын
It wasnt from a purchased coin roll, but I was required to get pennies for my shop and I did the typical of running a magnet over them (find the occassional steel penny), and after opening the first roll, the very first penny behind the one visible was a 1909 VDB. I've still got that in an airtight alongside my silver stack.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!!!
@colleenmurphy5335
@colleenmurphy5335 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyu for taken the wrisk for us tht is a bug help and can make the hobby safer with all the scams out there thankyu i hope you get blessed and find a coin worth thousands .yu deserve it
@stephenwarf5190
@stephenwarf5190 Жыл бұрын
My dad and a friend owned the bubble gum machines in 1960 just penny machines at that time. It was winter time I was 7 years old. I have complete sets from then. Then they came out with dime and Nickel machines. I have coins from then and in the penny machine there was always Indian heads and even flying eagles. Best finds was 3 1909s vdb, 1 1877 Indian head.
@jasonyang28
@jasonyang28 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found 5 1909 Vdbs, a 1913s, and a 1922D in bags of Unsearched wheat cents from my lcs.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! That just goes to show that the LCS is the way to go!
@coinsearcher9635
@coinsearcher9635 4 жыл бұрын
Intersting purchase! Just purchased some merch encluding the galaxy morgan shirt! Looking forward to getting it! Take care.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks man! Really, really appreciate the support! Post a pic and tag me on insta when you get it!
@joe22474
@joe22474 4 жыл бұрын
I think "unsearched" is a stretch for multiple reasons, one being coins have been searched by folks just like us for well over a hundred years. I have purchased similar rolls with some very nice coins, key dates,and an occasional Indian head. The seller I purchased from all 3 times I tried this was The Master of Coin.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you found an honest one
@Rockywi
@Rockywi 4 жыл бұрын
Chiming in after 8:55 where you ask for what we think after some in just the first roll. I used to go through penny rolls back in the 60's and the coins in these rolls are clearly not anything like old rolls. There were tons of 44's 45's because of the high mintage during those years, and steel cents were somewhat uncommon, but would show up often enough--some people saved them, but you could always find them in change if you searched enough rolls. I think the newest coin you got was a 55 or so, and rolls from the 50's I would expect to have even a smattering of common date Indian Cents. Sure there wouldn't be many of them, but they would occasionally show up in rolls even in the 60's so, how can they advertise the rolls as being 100% wheat cents. The condition of the coins are nothing like any rolls from any era. In short: DEFINITELY a scam. Thanks for the video.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the corroboration. It's a shame. hope this video keeps some new collectors from buying this junk
@collectibles4u
@collectibles4u 4 жыл бұрын
First just halfway through the first roll generally original bank right roles are a lot better condition, I've had a few from my grandfather that he got when my dad was born in 55 along with about every other denomination that time and to be honest as far as dates and mint's I didn't fair much better than you except the condition was amazing on most of the pennies. And I'm the second note I buy a lot of wheat lots. I've found good seller's, bad, great, and horable. I don't want to put a label that all of these are scams because they're not you do have to dig to the dirt to get to the buried gold but once you find a few good seller's stick with them I have three I buy from regular and still try others Happy Hunting
@AdolfoCardoza777
@AdolfoCardoza777 4 жыл бұрын
This Video will start in April 17 in 2:00 PM
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like I screwed up the premier 😬
@joshuachambers3372
@joshuachambers3372 4 жыл бұрын
At 11:00 those “flaps” actually indicate a real machine wrapped roll. You will find them in modern machine rolls too. That roll was opened, but the flaps are meant to make it look real
@WSFM_Rex
@WSFM_Rex 4 жыл бұрын
Haven’t been here in a minute, nice video love stuff like this
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rex, thanks for returning! Just out of curiosity, what types of videos do you most like to watch on my channel. I definitely want to give the people what they want lol :)
@CircHistory
@CircHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Me: at first sees *$750* worth of value Me again: wait... what? Me lastly: oh... it's *$7.50*
@WSFM_Rex
@WSFM_Rex 4 жыл бұрын
Silverpicker my favorite videos are ones like this where you buy something off eBay from a random guy and see how the product is. I’m on eBay a lot and I’ve seen these rolls a 1000 times and now my curiosity is satisfied thanks to you and it cost me nothing haha. it’s great how interactive you are with the community i did not expect you to respond to me , keep up the good work need more youtubers like that💪
@golddog0113
@golddog0113 4 жыл бұрын
Let me sum up what's in an unsearched roll: shit
@beercanburr4058
@beercanburr4058 4 жыл бұрын
I have bought some unopened rolls off eBay but haven’t opened any. Toned half rolls of pennies and some nickel rolls. I don’t plan on opening them unless I start my own KZbin channel some day. Good job with your video.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I hear that! If you decide to start a YT channel, let me know! Would love to see those openings.
@repairit1
@repairit1 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely wrapped after 1958. The condition of the 1950's coins looks like they seen circulation until the late 1970's. doesn't hurt to check for errors and varieties though. On another note, if you use a dark background under your scope the color correction works better. Something like a dark colored mouse pad.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice! I will definitely do that next time 👍
@andrew0919
@andrew0919 4 жыл бұрын
I bought unsearched wheat penny rolls and I found REALLY nice Coins from the teens to the 40s. I found no 50s and nearly all the coins I found upgraded in my book. I also found 2 1909 VDBs and 6 1943 steel cents and probably the best things I found were 3 really nice Indian head cents. The roll costed 7 dollars and I did NOT get scammed.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is a very lucky roll!
@simchamo
@simchamo 2 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the party here but in 1954 the bank had changed its name from Wells Fargo Bank & Union Trust Company to Wells Fargo Bank. Finding a post 1954 penny seems highly suspect unless they were using roll wrappers from 3 years before with a wrong name printed on them. It's reasonable to assume they might have had pre-1955 rolls but not so reasonable to assume they were still wrapping pennies in 1958 with 4 year old incorrect wrappers.
@jamesgibbonsii4566
@jamesgibbonsii4566 2 жыл бұрын
in all honesty I've gotten some parking lot 2022s out of bankrolls, but definitely see what you're saying
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
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@haleymarion8145
@haleymarion8145 3 ай бұрын
Subscribed and thumbs up! I have a lot of coins from my grandmother. I am learning key dates which correct me if I am wrong play more of a role than condition? And then of course there are also errors. But my biggest struggle is recognizing what a double die looks like. I always thought it was pretty obvious and spread apart but maybe not? Any tips? Lighting and angles to see clearly? I do have a couple of microscopes.
@coinfinds2547
@coinfinds2547 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1000 wheat penny lot and got a lot of goods. Lots of old nice looking ones. And 24 Grease strikes. Oldest Grease strike is a 1926 and my oldest over all is a 1910.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Nice that's an awesome score!
@coinfinds2547
@coinfinds2547 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker what was so cool is i only paid $48 dollars in total.
@kyleross6299
@kyleross6299 4 жыл бұрын
my great grandfather worked at the pennsylvania mint and would get rolls and rolls of wheat pennies. I opened a roll the other day and every single one of the penies was uncirculated 1909 VBD pennies.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's incredible! You should consider getting some of those graded
@kyleross6299
@kyleross6299 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker for sure will do!!
@pennstate2010
@pennstate2010 4 жыл бұрын
I've bought rolls of wheat cents from ebay before and the majority of them were in the 40's and 50's with like one or 2 each from the teens, 20's and 30's. not sure if it's really a scam or not but if you can find cheap enough rolls they're great for beginner collectors to start filling up a collection book.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the price. This roll wouldn't be a scam if it was half the price and they said it was just a random selection of wheat cents
@UwUSanime
@UwUSanime 4 жыл бұрын
A dead give away is how the papers cut. Back in the 40s and 50s they straight cut the paper, they didn't cut the paper horizontally until the mid 60s
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Really good to know. Thanks!
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 4 жыл бұрын
Good public service video. My wife fell for the ones on Etsy where they put the dime in the end of the roll but she didn't pay quite as much. The real give away is the date spread - if that was wrapped in 1958 then there most of those pennies would dated within a decade. They put that spread of ages in there so that newbies would see the older coins and think they found something special since new collectors associate age with value - hey, a 1917 - that must be worth at least what I paid for the roll!
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@carko2617
@carko2617 4 жыл бұрын
About 5 years ago I purchased a couple of rolls like you did. The papers were a little better and tighter wrapped but the results were similar to yours, maybe a bit better but not much. I also purchased $250 dollars face of copper pennies from a dealer who was selling lots of of them - my thought was with the quantity he was selling he either had a large staff searching them or they were at most just scanned briefly. They are still sitting in the back of a closet untouched by me yet.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly that could still have some good stuff in it. Might be worth searching at some point
@shadowknight7827
@shadowknight7827 4 жыл бұрын
I know buying penny rolls is rough and i should know since i buy them too, the rolls i've bought had mostly 40's and 50's in it, it did have some old dates but out of searching nearly 700 wheats i only have 122 pre-40's wheats, the best way to tell its not a scam is if you get more older dates then 40's and 50's
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That definitely seems to be the case. Also, the condition of the coins
@shadowknight7827
@shadowknight7827 4 жыл бұрын
I did get quite a few wheaties that looked in great condition, the best oldies wheat I have is a 1929 s wheat that doesn't have much damage or Ware on it, I looked at it through my loop and I could see the stalks on it clearly, the only damage is on the rim and a scratch on Lincoln's face
@jonathonrichards3471
@jonathonrichards3471 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the time when I'm buying wheat rolls, it is because of the ender coin(s). It is to be expected that the middle of the roll is all garbage, so the ender coins are what you are actually buying. At least in my experience. By the way, that 1955 D in the second roll, was a "BIE" error coin
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's not a bad way to look at it. Good catch! let me see if I can find it :)
@beverlykendall4579
@beverlykendall4579 4 жыл бұрын
I have purchased a couple rolls as well. I went in thinking they were searched but all I'm looking for are to fill one of the penny collector books. Very few S mints but I am looking now more for the certain decades to help fill.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I hear that, Beverly, but I'd recommend getting them from a local coin store if you can. They'll be a lot cheaper and they will probably be nicer specimens.
@pulpnonfiction5135
@pulpnonfiction5135 4 жыл бұрын
First roll coins are too well circulated for being stashed in the 50s I would expect higher grades....they have been sorted before i think Thanks for the good info!
@tyeash7822
@tyeash7822 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy coin rolls your gonna have most if them from that decade with alot from the decade before and sprinkle in a few from 20yr back 50s 40s and sprinkle in some 30s but the ones from the 50s should be in good to excellent condition.
@KSCuberOfficial
@KSCuberOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't bought any unsearched rolls since around when I started in 2006-2009. I did a lot of research and got lucky then. I think I paid around $35 for a couple rolls and got about $80 value out of them. I got a 1922 d, 1909 vdb, 1914 s, and 1913 s out of those rolls along with a couple decent dates.
@nathanab5411
@nathanab5411 4 жыл бұрын
KSCuber do you remember the shop I have been trying to buy some from a trusted person
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That is super lucky. You might have had an honest seller as well.
@ChinkapinOak
@ChinkapinOak 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your conclusions one hundred percent.
@GreatLakesDirtFishing
@GreatLakesDirtFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I once found a legit buyer on eBay who sold clean unsearched pennies. This was years ago and I think they sold out. One roll had 20 brilliant uncirculated wheats from 1956-58
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that's very uncommon. Hope you still buy other stuff from them! Gotta support the fair and honest sellers
@msbuck007
@msbuck007 4 жыл бұрын
I occasionally purchase rolls from eBay, but I do not get caught up into the hype of the auction. I look at what is visible and just bid on what their appearance from the pictures provided. I have a video coming out tomorrow on my channel where I do a similar investigation. I did find some interesting coins in it. I do agree that most if not all of these are just repacks of picked through pennies.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you do better than me!!
@mrhick01
@mrhick01 4 жыл бұрын
There would be far less wrong with these sales with lower prices and more honesty-just provide circulated rolls for kids and to attract new collectors for the sake of "the joy of numismatics." I'm a Gen-Xer who became interested in coin collecting as a kid seeing 19th century coins my late grandmother's friend kept in an empty Avon lotion container, and finding 1930s-1950s wheat cents in circulation. Provide entry-level "grab bags" that are fairly priced & provide some basic coin collecting education.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more, Michael
@williammunson9551
@williammunson9551 4 жыл бұрын
I got a roll of Penny's for $12:56 and found a 1912d and a 1944 mercury dime and the roll was only about $3:50 under value so pretty good
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely could be worse!
@williammunson9551
@williammunson9551 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker yes yes it could haha
@georgereed3109
@georgereed3109 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree they've been searched. I was going to buy rolls of 50 cent pieces that they said were absolutely uncertained. I asked them if they weighed those roles and I could not get an answer from them for 4 days so I told them do not ship them I want my money back because you can wait those until if there's any silver in there. I have since seen all kinds of roles of 50 cent pieces for sale and I know that's what they've done they say unsearched but they're still in Bank rolls but I seen I think it was digging Dave way rolls like that and he would say yes there are silver coins in here because the weightless different and I know that's what they've done so they have been searched I finally told them that I would let eBay know that they were giving false information and boy they accept my money back immediately
@JohnNack
@JohnNack 4 жыл бұрын
I once bought a set of two rolls of wheaties and it was nothing but junk. Since then I have stuck to buying old red seal notes because I know what I’m getting into
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I hear that
@dasims
@dasims 2 жыл бұрын
I got one through a bidding war for $10, had 3 indian heads, 4 steels, and all the others were wheaties! i thought it was a prettry good deal, tbh.
@prohamburger22
@prohamburger22 4 жыл бұрын
I also have wheat cents I inherited its awesome some of the rolls look like there from the 1940s.
@JosephRowley-zp9ds
@JosephRowley-zp9ds Жыл бұрын
Buying these coins from Etsy, eBay and coinstv seem to be all the same commons which are mostly in poor condition and most of the coins that could be worth something are in the worst condition I have even got a 1964 and a1975 this tell me that someone rolled them in the 70s and somebody went threw them there never worth what you payed. It's a scam. Big Joe have a God blessed day 😮
@markp44288
@markp44288 4 жыл бұрын
I think they threw a lot of old worn ones in to impress you and make it seem special, where a real roll from 1955 or later would include many more coins new at the time. "Unsearched" does exist, it's hard to find, but I bought a set of four Roman provincial coins from Viminacium, unsearched and unattributed for a very good price. One of the coins was the emperor Aemilian, who reigned for just 3 months and is pretty hard to get. If the dealer had looked at all that would not have been in there!
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Mark, I think you hit the nail on the head. I too think they seeded the rolls with a few oldies so as to make it seem like it was a "lucky" roll. Like you said, you can find some good unsearched stuff, but it's few and far between
@jetrexdetroit6044
@jetrexdetroit6044 4 жыл бұрын
Well I feel like a fool I just spent $7 and $9 for two rolls of pennies eBay, haven't got them yet but now I'm getting really bummed out great video I'm good to patreon you thank you
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Don't sweat it. You'll know for next time :) We all make mistakes lol. Plus, you may get lucky!
@deepstacker8135
@deepstacker8135 3 жыл бұрын
I have bought a few rolls online, that were susposed to be unseaerched, only to get them and realize that they were. It is so easy to undo a rolled edge and redo it where it is hard to tell it was done. Granted, they may not have been searched by the people i bought them from, but i am pretty sure it is a scam.
@mdmilburn5715
@mdmilburn5715 4 жыл бұрын
i think its just better to buy BU rolls of same date and hoard them ( at least in the long run your holdings will not give you a loss in investment ).... if your careful
@AJ-ck9nt
@AJ-ck9nt 4 жыл бұрын
The number of teens and '20s wheat cents are even more suspicious considering that the mint started increasing production significantly in the 30s and it really jumped in the 40s.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, totally agree
@JTCT371
@JTCT371 2 жыл бұрын
The best is when you get a memorial cemt in your unsearched wheat cent rolls. Lol....thats happened to me twice since I started collecting. Lol
@silvadelshaladin
@silvadelshaladin 4 жыл бұрын
What seems weird to me is how conveniently they are wheat cents. I'd figure there would be a lot more say bank rolls from 59-65 where most of the things would be wheat cents but you would have quite a few au 59-65 ones. I'd actually be a lot more likely to trust a roll where the seller was selling 1962 circulated bank rolls than 1958 ones.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I hear that., Silvadel. It's a total scam and it preys on new collectors. Makes me really angry 😡
@silvadelshaladin
@silvadelshaladin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker I used to hunt wheat cents back as a kid in the lateish 1970s-early 80s and it was a lot different. It does mean I know what a 1970s roll should look like. It is odd, you could occasionally find a 1909 vdb back then, but indian head pennies were no more common then than they are today. I actually think there are more buffalo nickels in circulation now than there were in 1980.
@AussieBushLawyer
@AussieBushLawyer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally doing another roll searching video! It was great! I only buy coins on ebay when i know what i'm getting 👍
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, Nick! I'll definitely be doing more :)
@AussieBushLawyer
@AussieBushLawyer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Silverpicker How did he know my name was actually Nick?👍👍👍🎉
@StevesRealWorld
@StevesRealWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Did you GLUE you microscope to the pad, because mine won't stand there for more than 30 seconds?
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
No, it has a suction cup with a lever. First you lift the lever, then you press the cup down, and then you lower the lever to lock it in place. See if that helps
@robertmims509
@robertmims509 4 жыл бұрын
Lack of better condition coins is a sure sign they were searched. The seller doesn't even try to hode that fact. They needed to salt a bunch of great condition 40s and 50s to give the rolls a little a sense of authenticity.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, totally agree Robert
@SixWildKids
@SixWildKids Жыл бұрын
I bought one of the 5 lbs of wheats. It was decent but I had mostly empty books to start with.
@SixWildKids
@SixWildKids Жыл бұрын
An alternate way of guessing the value would be to compare the coins to how many boxes of pennies you'd have to search to find that many wheat pennies. Most of the videos I've seen on box searches people find about 10 or so wheats per box. For $10 a roll you'd have to search 5 boxes to get the 50 coins. That's looking at 12,500 pennies. What's your time worth? That would take at least a few hours plus the hassle of getting the boxes, re-wrapping and returning the boxes. One guy I watched was going through 250 boxes to try to fill a new book. That means he looked at 625,000 pennies. Again, what's his time worth? I would love to see a video on how to find missing pennies for a fairly complete collection.
@Gpend123
@Gpend123 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a role for 2.25 and I loved it.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 3 жыл бұрын
$2.25 is a great price
@austinuden1872
@austinuden1872 4 жыл бұрын
I got rolls from someone on eBay, but they sold them to me off of eBay as they were never listed and I just happened to ask about them. I got the rolls for $5.50 each and almost completed an entire collection from them when considering mint/year, not varieties, including 3 1909 with 1 being a nice VDB that would probably get an Extra Fine grade, maybe a low AU if lucky.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing!
@Player-9
@Player-9 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way i can send you a picture to see if my stuff is worth anything.
@football4ever605
@football4ever605 4 жыл бұрын
I could help...first tell me what coins you have
@Player-9
@Player-9 4 жыл бұрын
@@football4ever605 well they arent coins. They are bank notes. Ones a star not and one is a "95 percent cool" 10 dollar bill according to my currency collection.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Post them to my facebook page or tag me on insta @thesilverpicker
@football4ever605
@football4ever605 4 жыл бұрын
@@Player-9 Oh then i would use silver picker because I don't really know about bills. Sorry
@Player-9
@Player-9 4 жыл бұрын
@@football4ever605 No problem
@8engie84
@8engie84 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there been trying to find out some info on a 1892 Morgan coin/token/art round wondering if maybe could shed some light on it can’t seem to upload a pic of said item
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Tough to say without a pic. See if you can post it to Insta and tag me
@bigstepppaaishhhh
@bigstepppaaishhhh 4 жыл бұрын
This happened to me when i bought a roll of “ Unsearched wheat pennies” and it turned out to be all circulated wheat pennies in shitty shape but I didn’t return it and now I regret it
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, but we both learned a lesson lol
@SouthernCoin
@SouthernCoin 4 жыл бұрын
I got a couple wheat rolls at a coin show last month for $5 total and they were what I expected, but there were several teens, 20s and 30s. I think I got a 1909 as well
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I think $5 is much more reasonable for this type of thing. It doesn't feel like a scam when it's fairly cheap
@dhy5342
@dhy5342 Жыл бұрын
An unsearched roll from 1955 would not only have AU 50's coins, but would also have probably at least 4 or 5 Indians. I delivered papers back then and saw many, many Indian head cents, Liberty and Buffalo nickles, Mercury dimes, Standing Liberty quarters, and Walking Liberty halves. Today, in 2023 there are ZERO unsearched rolls.
@ayvenray1427
@ayvenray1427 4 жыл бұрын
I just have a question I searched up the value of wheat cents on coin tracker a site I have used for years and its more of 15 to 35 cent a peice and is it just me or was that 1957 double die?
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is gonna pay 35 cents a piece for common date wheaties (unfortunately). Don't think the 57 was anything special, unfortunately
@chaosandcoffee664
@chaosandcoffee664 4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts at 8:50....it’s very curious that an original “bank wrapped roll” from at least 1955 doesn’t have more coins from the late 40s & early 50s...and is lacking specifically in S mint/AU/BU coins from the early 50s. There have been several early dates from 1910-30’s...but they’re all common and only the 1934 D and 1910 are probably worth more than 25 cents (maybe 50c in their condition). That’s my 2 cents so far 😉
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated. I agree
@jadoncoble1596
@jadoncoble1596 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a question about a specific dollar I own. It’s just a normal 50 dollar bill, it’s serial number is 14031403. 2013 series - quad repeater (I think). I was wondering if you happened to know the approximate value of a bill like this. Because I can’t really go to a coin shop really. Thank you! And have a blessed day!
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I would say it has a 5-10% premium over face value, assuming it's in good condition
@andrews8259
@andrews8259 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to buy a couple several years ago. It just ended up being a scam. The coins were never shipped, and the seller refunded my money after I asked them a couple times. They told ebay that I never paid, but they could see that I had. Ebay protected me from that one.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That's a shame, but at least eBay stood behind you
@stevensenlacere1619
@stevensenlacere1619 4 жыл бұрын
definately culled through then rewrapped. you aren't EVER going to get keys, semis, 1909s vdb, 1931s etc in quote unsearched rolls. most likely the dregs from searching boxes of coins. these rolls can be used for if you have a lot of holes in your album
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Steven
@EarnhardtFanproductions
@EarnhardtFanproductions 4 жыл бұрын
i bought vegas ones and they were unsearched with uncriculated nickels and copper pennys and i can tell it was un-searched as in the nickel roll i got two buffalo nickels and in the other one was a full 1960's uncirculated roll same for the pennies which there was all 57's. not bad for 25 cent rolls and one dollar nickel rolls
@neod4865
@neod4865 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of 43 steel pennies is very suspicious
@georgereed3109
@georgereed3109 Жыл бұрын
I have about 500 wheat pennies that have been saved by my dad and the rest of the family every time we would get one in change it would go in a jar and before he passed away he gave them to me that I I'm going to go through them again, now that I know what all to look for and I think I have 1955 double die in those and I may have two maybe three of them. I just bought my digital microscope a couple weeks ago. So that should show you how much of a newbie I am LOL but it is a fun hobby at my age or should I say my tender age of 60 LOL I have been retired for 10 years. I made a ridiculous amount of money when I worked and I lost my wife in 2012 in her car wreck we were in and everything was paid for I had a ridiculous amount of money and the bank and Investments and I said I wanted to enjoy the rest of my life so here I am LOL and now I'm married to the very first girl I've ever in love with. Didn't mean to tell you guys my life story but it just came out.
@אילייזורנו
@אילייזורנו 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I'm a complete beginner in coin collection where do you buy wheat pennies
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 2 жыл бұрын
Are you looking for individual wheat pennies or bulk? In the US or in Israel?
@donaldbothe3518
@donaldbothe3518 4 жыл бұрын
I have gotten bank wrapped rolls that are circulated but bank sealed that did have the full range, shields, memorials, and a wheat or 2 in a single roll
@renemichaud8751
@renemichaud8751 4 жыл бұрын
The only reason it would be worth buying wheat cent rolls would be if your hunting for specific dates or filling out a new wheat cent book.
@renemichaud8751
@renemichaud8751 4 жыл бұрын
I agree Max, it was a bust, if there were really unserched coins, the later ones 1940s and 50s would have been more reddish than brown and the details would have been in better condition. If they were real, they're would have been a lot of common dates and not a wide variety of dates. I believe that those coins were in circulation for a long time due to the condition and the colouration. I only own 4 wheat cents pulled from circulation that were in better condition then some found in your 3 rolls. I also believe that Canadian coin rolls would be more worth it especially if the listing says that there king George VI or queen Elizabeth young head.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Rene, I couldn't agree more. Thanks for watching and for leaving a nice comment, as usual 😁
@sirbenji9272
@sirbenji9272 4 жыл бұрын
If they throw them in a big tub then grab 50 and fill a roll can they say unsearched roll?
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Yes...but only if the coins in the tub were never searched. that said, they can't call it an "Original Bank Wrapped Roll" lol
@FunWithCoins
@FunWithCoins 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting experimental video keep up the good work and quality content!
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I will!
@maxpower8572
@maxpower8572 3 жыл бұрын
I routinely re use the wrappers they come in but mark them by decade. If I decide to sell them I'll put them in new wrappers, sell them cheap and certainly not call them unsearched. I have gotten good rolls and bad.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 3 жыл бұрын
That's totally reasonable
@lorenzomaximo1818
@lorenzomaximo1818 4 жыл бұрын
The term Unsearched is subjective. Heres how the deal works. A dealer can claim he will sell you rolls of Unsearched wheat cents. He is telling the truth. The way he gets away with that is he buys them from other dealers who have searched them and tells the other dealer there's nothing really rare in any of those rolls. Just common date circulated wheaties. Once in awhile they will throw you a bone to keep you coming back for more.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're right that that happens, but I don't agree that they're "telling the truth. "Unsearched" doesn't mean that only the seller hasn't searched them. That's like me selling an empty jar of peanut butter but since I personally never opened it. I advertise it as "Unopened Jar of Peanut Butter."
@taylorfranks1265
@taylorfranks1265 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased one of these rolls from the flea market and the whole roll was 1946. No mint marks
@w111w126
@w111w126 4 жыл бұрын
I'm skeptical of the bank identity font on the wrappers. The paper could be old, but I'll wager the stamp is modern. The small print and numeric font (not "PENNIES") appears to maybe even be Helvetica, which didn't exist until 1957, and likely wasn't in use on coin rolls of the period.
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
That is extremely perceptive. I didn't even consider that the stamp is what is fake. Very clever (in a bad way lol). Thanks for pointing that out. I bet you're right
@andrewderksen3342
@andrewderksen3342 4 жыл бұрын
These look exactly like the ones I put together as Searched Wheat Cent rolls lol:(
@Silverpicker
@Silverpicker 4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense lol
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