Sim Racing Wheel Buyer's Guide - 2020 Edition

[@abdullahjatt3681]

After checking all the prices and the feature these wheels have and all the accuracy they can deliver, I have come to a conclusion that I'll buy a car instead.

[@RajKumar-gz9kw]

And where you will race it In air ?

[@abdullahjatt3681]

@@RajKumar-gz9kw I have several ways, don't you worry :D

[@ljy.73]

@@RajKumar-gz9kw let the man flex. We peasants can only race in our dreams and games.

[@LucasJodokast]

alot of it is nonsense, a cheap wheel properly setup is more than enough for most ppl

[@Malficion]

Trust me... IRL racing will be Hella more expensive in the long run. 20k Sim Rig vs 10k Miata 1 yr running cost: 300/mo Track Days 3000 Gas/Oil/tires/fluids/pads 1000 "Oh Shit" Fund Sim: 400 Electricity

[@mog7501]

Wow, imagine being sponsored by one of the best and most expensive racing sim wheels out there yet still being impartial, fully factual, and not trying to push us into the higher categories. much respect!

[@sampayne1949]

“A real car’s steering is smooth” *civic has entered the chat*

[@sampayne1949]

*beater civic*

[@TheDaizM]

Lol

[@MoragTong_]

He said "real car"...- 700xp for mentioning a Civic.

[@sampayne1949]

S L At least a civic don’t have to wish to be made out of metal, like a certain puppet or pt cruiser we all know

[@sampayne1949]

S L Jeep much?

[@mistakendawg8885]

Got into Sim Racing last year, it was this video that got me to buy my G29. RIP Will.

[@LUXSTERIA]

Me too... RIP

[@djpaulyp789]

@@LUXSTERIA Whos will?

[@desertedvoltron]

@@djpaulyp789 the creator of this video

[@georgecota1720]

Is the G29 bad?

[@yoshibald8958]

is he dead?

[@Falcon-vu5qp]

Really like hearing them cars go around nonstop in my head for 31 min

[@TheRssandhu]

Ya it’s pretty bad

[@israchido5708]

lol it didn't bother to me at all

[@bobross3880]

You want to sim race but the sounds of cars bothers you? Uhh...idk who should tell you...

[@cuhzaam]

@@bobross3880 😂🤣 what i was thinking

[@Beaver234GT]

You should perhaps watch the sim related content like Forza etc. I actually create some and the engine sound and graphics are amazing kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3yZe62YbdNob80

[@krissv3ctor512]

That was definitely a quick word from your sponsor

[@hugovankeulen6803]

I actually really liked that

[@theaibuzzardthatcanshootyo6531]

Its usually raid or the vpns

[@ConnorF-hf1ui]

Hugo van Keulen I gotta is yucky your birthday and we you you you Yh up ya you Yh yo day Yh your Yh I you like your baby sister in the way of you you can go home to clean up my bed to you and I can be done yyyyyy

[@ConnorF-hf1ui]

Yyyyyy

[@ConnorF-hf1ui]

I’m y

[@scalefreakgaming]

I wish I got a video of the look on my wife’s face when you said “You don’t need to spend $1000...” Yeah...oops.

[@wb3213]

Husbands can have fun too !

[@TrenosUK]

Remember all those small items in her makeup bag cost at least $20.

[@wb3213]

@@TrenosUK OK

[@lystic9392]

@@TrenosUK Ah yes ^__^ You could sell her makeup.

[@TomBradysWurfhand]

When she asks you why and tells you that it's not the same as the real thing. You can answer with: Just like you and your makeUp. It's not the real thing, but I'm happy with what I can afford" xD

[@TheMadscientist1980]

Wheels: 5:36 < $100 price 7:33 $150 - $300 price 11:28 $300 - $500 price 15:30 $500 - $1000 price belt drive 20:34 $500 - $1000 price direct drive 25:24 > $1000 price 29:03 Top choices at each price point summary

[@adriantheone1or2]

There’s a thing called chapters.

[@Lix549]

16:03 says it's 500$ to 100$

[@wolfendenracing2826]

@@adriantheone1or2 there wasn’t at the time he made the comment

[@PutsOnSneakers]

@@adriantheone1or2 There's a phenomenon called timing.

[@yeetwchybaban]

@@adriantheone1or2 clown

[@ahmershamsi776]

RIP man. Keep coming back to your videos even now. May the racing tracks in the sky have favourable winds. RIP.

[@basementracer]

RIP brother, you will be missed. Thanks for all the good advice you have provided over the years.

[@wiyah2149]

He passed away??

[@basementracer]

@@wiyah2149 Yes, we have lost Will.

[@jalyrgaming]

What happened

[@basementracer]

@@jalyrgaming Man died in his sleep unexpectedly.

[@alexaxy3328]

@@basementracer Was he sick?

[@sydneyluna]

I've had my g27 for about 5 years and it's still going. Great starter kit.

[@filipprucnal]

Damn, I've sold my G27 a couple of months ago and still miss it. I'm planning on buying the CSL once I finish high school and I hope Sony/Microsoft won't come up with some bullshit excuse to block backwards compatibility with the next-gen consoles

[@matteohenry6501]

Instead buying new console, buy a pc, with a pc you are sure that your wheel is compatible and you have more sim

[@filipprucnal]

@@matteohenry6501 I already have a PC. The problem is that I want to play the first Horizon again with a decent wheel. So I'll probably buy the original One X if the next gen disappoints

[@break_it_bill]

I'm going on nearly 10 years with my G27. Back then it was still regularly $300+, Best Buy flash sale had it for $150.

[@tomast9034]

g25 here:D...bearing case cracked but still doing strong with no ffb to be safe.:)

[@guitarman2134568]

I still have my Microsoft Sidewinder. Thank you, mom and dad, for getting me hooked on simracing since I was 5.

[@bigmike8847]

The exact video I was looking for, posted 5 hours ago. KZbin coming in clutch tonight

[@Nix-i5r]

I ride on Series X and am completely satisfied with the Logitech G920! Yes, the gear technology is relatively noisy, but there is a simple solution to make it almost completely silent. If you have some manual skills, you can do the conversion for 1€ in just under half an hour (Warning!!! Warranty expires) Unscrew the steering wheel, remove both motors and you get to the gear rail. Degrease cleanly and stick a thin layer of felt (similar to chair gliders) to the bottom of the running surface. Then grease everything well (including the felt layer), assemble everything and almost not hear it anymore. Quieter than the rumble effect of a controller. Because it is not the gears that make the noise, but the play of the rack on the sliding surface. Works for me now more than 2000 hours without problems. Even in continuous use of uninterrupted 12 hours. Can of course also be used on the G29... To do this, of course, remove the rubber stopper in the brake and if you want it to be even more realistic, close the air outlet hole in the lower sleeve with a screw and hot glue. Insert a thin round rubber seal into the milling of this sleeve and grease it well. Put everything back together and you will be amazed. Due to this conversion, the air in the sleeve cannot escape and the harder the pedal is pressed, the more it is compressed. It's not rocket science and both conversions present you with a better driving experience.👋 Of course I left you a subscription

[@daniel8444]

I really miss you Will. There were a couple of months where we had reconnected during a time that was really rough for me, and you had suggested we spend some time racing together. I kept putting it off, because I hadn't been sim racing for quite some time at that point. I'll never get those months back, and every day I wish that I had spent them with you while I still had the chance.

[@everythinggaming7938]

A lot of work went into this and it shows. Great buyers guide mate.

[@thegallantracer5217]

Dont stop at wheel, rig, and sims! Pedals! Shifters! E brakes! Button boxes? Love the content! Looking forward to the rig segment!

[@polyphonydigital]

for most people a wheel itself is enough. Some just need a wheel and a shifter. only hardcore simracers would want ebrakes or button boxes

[@thegallantracer5217]

I agree. I'd still love to see it, so I'm sure other more hardcore racers would too

[@polyphonydigital]

@@thegallantracer5217 Me too, even though i would never buy those. I'm gonna just buy a wheel and a shifter (don't judge me, but gonna buy a Logitech G29 with its shifter)

[@thegallantracer5217]

@@polyphonydigital no judgement here. I used it's great grandfather, the driving force gt for 10 years before it broke, worked great. and I just upgraded from the logitech g shifter to a fanatec shifter since my logitech shifter is selecting the wrong gears again. Getting tired of fixing it, so I'm upgrading. I'm sure itll be a great wheel for you.

[@polyphonydigital]

@@thegallantracer5217 I am gonna do the sequential shifting mod. I dont want to use the H-type shifting

[@borzonstudios8638]

I've driven industry DD wheels (Volvo and Williams F1) and also driven on track and honestly I can guarantee that a gear driven wheel such as the G29 is already enough to experience great sim-racing. There's no need to go higher unless you really want to get closer and closer to perfection.

[@77fonzo77]

I appreciate your experience. I'm trying to get into sim racing and get my first wheel that was realistic and comparable enough to real driving, and wasn't sure what would get me there without breaking the bank.

[@michaelfisher737]

400 hours later and my t150 pedals' gas has gone completely loose and sits at ~70% throttle at all times with no deadzone. They served me well, but I'm really excited for my clubsport v3s. Great video, very informative, great recommendations all around!

[@TekNeil]

Rest easy mate :-( Thoughts with your family and friends.

[@danielpanter2476]

Wait what

[@TekNeil]

@@danielpanter2476 Sadly Will has passed away... We lost a good guy.

[@therudepotatochip8633]

@@TekNeil Seriously???

[@matt-vw7gt]

@@therudepotatochip8633 i just realized im retarded and 2 days ago was april fools

[@TekNeil]

@@therudepotatochip8633 Sadly yes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/laKUdWZ6a92Li5Y

[@mrmactknife]

2020, everything is out of stock! :(

[@Edi1107]

mrmactknife ikr

[@codenamecordon]

mrmactknife why?

[@spr4nova449]

I was about to buy t300rs gt when I click checkout it said its no longer available :(

[@Cle_M3]

codenamecordon corona virus everyone’s in quarantine sims have seen a spike in users

[@polishpat95]

People are sitting home during the pandemic. So people are buying lots of gaming supplies lol

[@dadoomguy6263]

"at least have 900 degrees of rotation" *cries in a corner cuz my old ferrari thrustmaster wheel only has 90 and playing f1 is hard*

[@WEOOOUTHERE]

I use that Thrusmaster wheel he showed with the ferrari symbol... I don't really have a problem. What I don't like is the buttons during the race... It is impossible to select pit strategies, etc. during the race.

[@frankfpv5850]

me too i have a458 italia wheel with no force feedback

[@sabersz]

My G920 maxes out at 900 lol

[@MrPunkassfuck]

Why would you need 900 degress when GT3 cars for example in real life has 540 degrees. Makes no sense.

[@boopsmcgee]

@@MrPunkassfuck In case you're driving a car that has 900 degrees of rotation

[@talon1706]

I bought a G29 3 1/2 years ago and it's still going strong. Daily use with league racing. I did have to spray contact cleaner into the throttle pedal pot for spiking. All's good. The next wheel is undecided yet.

[@Stormtrooper-oc4vn]

Yeah me too prices are crazy after the g29 lol

[@elitedestroyer0083]

Damn all the wheels I'm seeing in the $150-300 bracket are going for 400+ , feels bad man

[@PolitischeImmunität]

I just bought the Thrustmaster TX Racing Ferrari 458 package for 229€. Everything else is also more expensive here. Since only the TX Base would have cost 250€+ im going for the plastic ferrari wheel but it's upgradeable for a really good price! Just keep looking for good deals! Something will come your way!

[@sofiejones7270]

Yeah, coronavirus is hiking the prices of every wheel since there is enough supply, I snatched a TX with an F1 rim and C3PA pedals just before the prices went way up

[@PolitischeImmunität]

@@sofiejones7270 My TX arrived really happy with it!

[@sofiejones7270]

lakai2305 good to hear, I’m a bit nervous making such a big purchase given TM reliability but that’s reassuring

[@combatantezoteric2965]

Why doesn't anybody know about the thrustmaster t150????? Its super good tbh. 900°, great build quality, forcefedback etc . The good part is that it still goes for under 200€/£/$

[@WardenOfTerra]

The Fanatec CSL Elite is by far the best on the list due to what you actually get for the price. The build quality is also top notch. The fact it can be used on any major system minus Nintendo, pretty much speaks for itself.

[@georgevana]

That's decided then. My entry level kit is going to be: - Next Level Racing F-GT LITE Cockpit - Thrustmaster T300 RS GT

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Good choice. The t300 is great

[@candycabngfl]

Good luck with the T300. Their reliability has been very hit and miss over the last several years. I had 2 die on me within a year. Bought a Fanatec CSl Elite and couldn't be happier.

[@tahirballikaya213]

That seems more than just entry. I was thinking tmx pro. Gonna be my first wheel

[@georgevana]

@@candycabngfl I've heard that so many times, its not even funny anymore, but there is just as many opinions that say it works perfectly. After 25 hours with it, I am absolutely satisfied.

[@dizzyalyates6957]

Get the t500 set up

[@cmdrjagermeister7436]

Since Feel VR and its delays have been mentioned here is the current situation: Feel VR has stopped responding to its bakers and not released any updates ever since 1.1.20. They didn´t even mention the wheel ever since their October 2019 update. They don´t respond to direct messages either and their CEO has left the company. They also closed their indigogo project.

[@yamabushi170]

I recently started taking an interest in sim racing after spending years in the world of flight sims. I'm really loving using my hp reverb VR headset to add that extra level of immersion but right now I'm just using a very old logitech ex driving force wheel donated by my friend and have been contemplating taking the plunge and buying a decent wheel /pedal set. This video was really informative and helpful so thank you!

[@strawberryfrogforever]

Can confirm the G29 has been a 10/10 intro to sim racing. Been on many a journey between Forza Horizon 4 + 5, Dirt 4 + Rally 2.0, Assetto Corsa, Beam.ng

[@callumpenman5992]

Just started getting into sim racing here’s what I did: Got the Logitech g920 wheel and pedals for £150 from amazon (half price), I attached it to my standard height desk from ikea and put the pedals against the wall and it worked great. Once I started getting into it I wanted to go further so I bought a Playseat Challenge from eBay for around £70 (usually over £200), it’s a folding deckchair like racing seat with tonnes of manoeuvrability and stability. It is also compatible with pretty much every mainstream wheel and pedal set up. Next I bought the Logitech shifter from amazon for around £25 and then bought a standard microphone bracket from eBay for about £10 to attach it to the chair, playseat offer a mount but it is about £30 which I though was far too expensive. Best thing to do is check second hand markets like eBay, gumtree and even Facebook, my whole set up is worth at least £600 if it was bought new but I got all of it for around £250 by doing this. As for sim racing, this goes for all platforms, assetto corsa and project cars are good to start on, if you have a pc you can try iRacing and mods for project cars (which make the game even better). I would not recommend buying a wheel to use on forza but it is definitely worth is for project cars and assetto corsa. If you enjoy sim racing I would highly recommend starting out with something like this.

[@alexanderef6730]

how did you get a G920 for £150??

[@callumpenman5992]

Alex F amazon randomly had it on sale for half price

[@calvinbawesome7715]

I got a Logitech G920 a few months ago, and I absolutely love it. Force feedback always works great, and now that we're in quarantine I use it almost every day (sometimes too much at once, I'll admit). That said, it has never overheated, and almost never has any connecting issues. The break pedal "problem" doesn't bother me that much because after a while you just get used to it, and after some use it does start to break in a little. I have also heard great things about long-term reliability with the G920 and Logitech products in general. I would definitely recommend this to anyone who was looking into a sim wheel. (Also recommend buying on Best Buy, cheaper than buying straight from Logitech or Amazon.)

[@Henkkanen]

"..Logitech G27, which is still an incredible racing wheel, many racers using it even today.." * looks at my 11-year old DFGT *

[@avlehtine]

Still running my G25 from like 2006. Had to replace the optical spindle or whatever once, but wheel still works fine.

[@Maheralwan]

I have both but honestly if it wasn't for the bad shifters i would go for the dfgt for the buttons

[@alexneitor775]

Dfgt is one hell of a wheel. Been with it 5 years and it keeps going!

[@bangngearz4442]

@@avlehtine i'm still using my G25 wheel too.. bought in 2006 as well...

[@Hissey1987]

I had the DFGT for many years, but when Forza 7 was released I wanted to upgrade and got the G920 and the shifter. I am not that much into driving sims and honestly use the wheel way more for ETS2 and FS19, but I never regretted it, using 3 Pedals and a shifter adds so much more immersion to it.

[@fischlimonade]

Bought a Logitech MOMO for only 10€ last week and honestly it's one of the best accessories for my PC I've ever had.

[@Simracingpaddock]

A Logitech MOMO Black was my first Force Feedback wheel I ever used! I have a lot of great memories of racing in NASCAR Sim Racing and rFactor 1 with it :D

[@drink15]

I normally have to dig through a bunch of videos to get the information I want but this one video had everything I needed. Thanks!

[@0woodbridger0]

I've had my g29 for years now and it's still going strong, that and the play seat challenge to go with it is a very good entry level setup for under 500 dollars. There's actually an even better foldable seat now but can't remember who makes it.

[@Zeegoku1007]

I'm considering getting a new g29 for myself as well. Is it loud / gear crackling sound or anything like that after all these years ? And how about pedals ?

[@NeilGR]

@@Zeegoku1007 mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow ill lyk

[@CrispyStrahan]

@@NeilGR I have a Logitech momo from 2005 it has ffb and I’m wondering if it’s even worth the upgrade I have been sim racing for almost 2 years now so I know I want to stay but a g29 is about as much as I’m willing to spend as I want to buy asset to corsa soon

[@DukeTVGaming]

Ditto but i use G27 and Momo Force Red Steel Leather before that years ago ... the G27 is perfect just make sure its the only device because it is fussy if my flight stick is plugged in at same time so make sure only one usb device connected and its still perfect however i do have 35 years simulator and hardware experience so i may sound biased for logitech products but i assure you there is a reason i make love to my logitech devices inside the metaverse. This is the way.

[@Nix-i5r]

​@@Zeegoku1007 I ride the Series X and am completely satisfied with the Logitech! Yes, the gear technology is relatively noisy, but there is a simple solution to make it almost completely silent. If you have some manual skills, you can do the conversion for 1€ in just under half an hour (Warning!!! Warranty expires) Unscrew the steering wheel, remove both motors and you get to the gear rail. Degrease cleanly and stick a thin layer of felt (similar to chair gliders) to the bottom of the running surface. Then grease everything well (including the felt layer), assemble everything and almost not hear it anymore. Quieter than the rumble effect of a controller. Because it is not the gears that make the noise, but the play of the rack on the sliding surface. Works for me now more than 2000 hours without problems. Even in continuous use of uninterrupted 12 hours. Can of course also be used on the G29... To do this, of course, remove the rubber stopper in the brake and if you want it to be even more realistic, close the air outlet hole in the lower sleeve with a screw and hot glue. Insert a thin round rubber seal into the milling of this sleeve and grease it well. Put everything back together and you will be amazed. Due to this conversion, the air in the sleeve cannot escape and the harder the pedal is pressed, the more it is compressed. It's not rocket science and both conversions present you with a better driving experience.👋 Of course I left you a subscription

[@HarlesBently]

Sometimes the t300RS gt edition can be 250 bucks at microcenter. They randomly put it on sale but its worth a buy. It has the 3 peddle set.

[@pablitopnl]

I got my t300rs GT for about $300 on a Black Friday sale a few years ago. Very happy with the purchase.

[@GDLamb42]

I got my T300 for $175 on Facebook. Had it for about 5 months now and it's still kicking.

[@brandonbaker8541]

I ordered the t300 rs gt a few weeks ago. So mad cuz it is not coming in due to corona

[@kkyoto_prod]

In finland its like 400

[@DavidJones-pi8rl]

Fantastic review, that I found very informative. As a long term motor sports fanatic, the cancellation of the Australia F1 GP due to COVID-19 and the subsequent cancellation of all the international and national series I follow and a nightmare. At least I thought it was, until the first e-sports race with current and former drivers from just about every series and country. A few weeks later on, I am hooked and am now addicted to e-sports racing, especially by sim professionals. It has renewed my interest in play a game on my PC for the 1st since 1990 (other than solitaire of course). So you review game is very timely (which is also probably why you have dropped the update). As much as I like to spend for the wheels and peddles in $350 to $500 bracket (let alone above) the challenge is that in a country like Australia, where we are currently around 66 cents US for every Aussie Dollar, even the Logitech G29 RRP is $5000, although is available from some retailers for around $400. The Thrustmaster options, unfortunately are priced even higher. So Logitech G29 it is then. Just got to workout how I get that in the house unseen! Mind you I did manage a 32" LED Monitor once, so you never know....

[@dabanstar21]

it is clled fanatec...

[@patrickhamilton6733]

Deadset legend.

[@Simracingpaddock]

NOTE: Due to the unusual circumstances regarding the Pandemic and abnormal Supply and Demand, Prices have been somewhat inflated for all sorts of products, including Sim Racing wheels and pedals. Prices on this Sim Racing Buyer's Guide are either based off of the Manufacturer's Suggested Price, OR the regular prices for these wheels. Do your research on prices, maybe wait for a sale, and you can save a LOT! TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 - Intro 2:34 - Brief Explanation on Force Feedback/FFB Types 5:33 - Sub-$100 Steering Wheels 7:29 - $150-$300 Wheels 11:28 - $300-$500 Wheels 15:25 - $500-$1,000 Belt Drive Wheels 20:28 - $500-$1,000 Direct Drive Wheels 25:19 - $1,000 and Up Direct Drive Wheels I will be providing more links to the different wheel variants and configurations in the description in the near future, but for now, check out the Written Version of the guide at simracingpaddock.com/sim-hw/2020-sim-racing-wheel-buyers-guide/

[@HarlesBently]

I'm sad that the T-GT is no longer available. Like at all. It's discontinued. You can find it used for like 800-900 bucks.... and i'm sad about all this cause i was looking to buy it

[@Simracingpaddock]

@@HarlesBently I'm not sure if it's actually "Discontinued".... I'll contact my Thrustmaster Representatives, but I'm guessing it's more likely going to be something about COVID-19 or something like that reducing production.

[@HarlesBently]

@@Simracingpaddock well it isnt listed on most of their distributors anymore and hasnt been for at least a few months. Not sure when it stopped being sold. Currently i have the t300rs gt edition but it doesnt like gtsport too much. Ghost button hits all the time and thrustmaster refused my warranty 6 months ago. Ghost hits do not happen in other games mind you.

[@KangerooBob]

You said about the Fanatec CSL Elite pedals that the difference in price is 2 or 3 pedals. I think the big difference is the Loadcell on the brake pedal. But i get it is all about the wheels ;)

[@Henrix1998]

7:99 🤔

[@enzdude]

I'm watching this because I'm using a freaking Flight Yoke for a steering wheel.

[@gamingjamil]

Lol

[@THEONEANDONLYCOLD]

Umm are you ok? I don’t think there meant to be used for cars but good luck lol

[@user-rs8zg8ey2b]

I use a force feedback keyboard. :)

[@DiffuseSpy392]

how

[@DiffuseSpy392]

i tried to use mine in forza and didnt work

[@TheBLC94]

My first wheel was a Logitech Driving Force GT I got for £35 used, in great condition. I now own a G29 with no regrets! Though, credit to the DFGT, it was a champ for such a cheap price.

[@Snijkamp]

I got a DFGT as well👍 first wheel. Wy did you choose the G29 instead of the T300?

[@TheBLC94]

@@Snijkamp Managed to pick up one used from a local games store for a good price

[@plutoguerra]

i have a G27 connected to my pc and still going strong, i use it everyday, Great wheel, im lowkey waiting for something to happen to it to buy a newer generation of wheels when the PS5 comes out hahhah

[@d1rcwill]

I bought a G29 with shifter yesterday bundled at £180. Without the shifter... £177. No brainer!

[@Ghost-vp7wz]

i seen that on amazon its about 199 euro lol (ireland)

[@alpher8962]

I got mine for 110... Germany 👌

[@Ghost-vp7wz]

@@alpher8962 HOW

[@spinnetti]

2002 ACT labs wheel was belt driven. Really wall made too - had mine for a decade and still worked well when I sold it

[@InterCity134]

Indeed. The author is ignorant. The act came out in 99 and I have the early release. Only got rid of it because they were not supporting it with drivers anymore. Modular hardware interface check. Write drivers for new operating system versions , nah.

[@chrishong2791]

Dude I thought the first 10 seconds were in real life. How crazy is that!!

[@fuzzcaster]

G29 all day long. You can use the shifter as a handbrake (mapped to 4th) with paddles for shifting. Or, manual H pattern + clutch and a paddle for the handbrake. Replace 2 screws, attach an O-ring and you've got a sequential shifter. All for under £200 Also the wheel is top quality, comfy and has never over heated. Even with prolonged daily use.

[@Nix-i5r]

I ride the Series X and am completely satisfied with the Logitech! Yes, the gear technology is relatively noisy, but there is a simple solution to make it almost completely silent. If you have some manual skills, you can do the conversion for 1€ in just under half an hour (Warning!!! Warranty expires) Unscrew the steering wheel, remove both motors and you get to the gear rail. Degrease cleanly and stick a thin layer of felt (similar to chair gliders) to the bottom of the running surface. Then grease everything well (including the felt layer), assemble everything and almost not hear it anymore. Quieter than the rumble effect of a controller. Because it is not the gears that make the noise, but the play of the rack on the sliding surface. Works for me now more than 2000 hours without problems. Even in continuous use of uninterrupted 12 hours. Can of course also be used on the G29... To do this, of course, remove the rubber stopper in the brake and if you want it to be even more realistic, close the air outlet hole in the lower sleeve with a screw and hot glue. Insert a thin round rubber seal into the milling of this sleeve and grease it well. Put everything back together and you will be amazed. Due to this conversion, the air in the sleeve cannot escape and the harder the pedal is pressed, the more it is compressed. It's not rocket science and both conversions present you with a better driving experience.👋 Of course I left you a subscription

[@charlienolan4409]

This hurts knowing it’s wills last buyers guide rest easy my man

[@lostpockets2227]

what is he dead > ?

[@Conceptcreator]

man getting my Thrustmaster t-lcm in soon! and I have the t300 (because default pedals suck for games like iRacing

[@superaviation001]

Get Logitech g29 or g920 or g923

[@hotlightning9496]

No. The gear system sucks in Logitech lol spend the extra 50 bucks

[@phoneticalballsack]

@@hotlightning9496 lmao no it's not

[@ZacJ6]

@@phoneticalballsack It does suck though, go belt driven

[@phoneticalballsack]

@@ZacJ6 i've used belt driven, the g920/29 is still good for the price

[@jarjaledi]

If you're a sim racing fan: Thrustmaster or Fanatec If you're a sim trucking fan: Logitech

[@neal2608]

Thanks for this. I recently grabbed my Thrustmaster T500 RS servo and pedals with the Ferrari F1 racing wheel out of storage to play F1 2019. I forgot how fun it is. I had to stop using it in my old apartment because the feedback was so loud when I would hit the curb or crash that my downstairs neighbour could hear it and it bothered her. In my new apartment, it's not an issue and my daughter loves to watch me play! I play on PC only. I also have the Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog kit that I hope someday I will get the motivation to re-learn and play DCS A-10C with.

[@jytchannel96]

I got a TMX wheel for around £139/$170 a couple of years back. Good button layout, nice paddle shifters and for a casual sim racer it is just a nice wheel. The pedal set is a bit basic, but work OK for me, and at least I know I can buy the T3PA pedals on their own and replace the basic pedals if I so desire. I am currently playing an F1 2019 career but have DiRT Rally, GRiD Autosport, Raceroom and some older titles, so like I say I'm a casual sim racer and for me the wheel works well enough.

[@marathi22]

I still sport my G25, and it's in perfect working condition. I bought that thing for about 200$ back in the GTR2 days in 2006. Pretty good value for money, I'd say...

[@mtnmoo]

i’ve had my wheel for 20 years, great ffb, and gives me a huge amount of joy. i use a logitech momo, the only downside is that it doesn’t have many buttons, super cheap now too!

[@user-rs8zg8ey2b]

I loved my mono, but several things made me do my own wheel. The pedal pots fail way too often, the gearing in the momo is to grinding (not smooth), I fixed all of that and added 27 buttons and when from 8bit controller (256 steps of resolution) to 12bit (4096 steps), knight and fkn day, check it out www.flickr.com/photos/123906448@N08/albums/72157644519292052

[@benjimc1]

I loved the momo I had shame the sensor broke it would lose calibration all the time

[@user-rs8zg8ey2b]

did you know about the shift and cycle commands the momo had?

[@cowgoesmoo3850]

I have a Logitech g920, a 200 gaming chair a steering weel/shifter/ handbrake stand, xbox one S and a 40" tv. That setup works perfect for me. I love it and I can use the chair when I'm not even racing.

[@cowgoesmoo3850]

When I'm not racing meaning when I'm watching somthing on my xbox lol.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

I just bought a Playseat and a G29 wheel/pedal set. I love it for GT Sport.

[@TimmyTheSnail]

I have the Thrustmaster TX and for the price it's amazing. I did upgrade the pedals but the standard ones you get with it are just fine, especially if you're a beginner. Being able to change out the wheel for different ones is also a great feature that I take advantage of a lot for different games. I think the Fanatec in the apparent same price range is just too expensive for the little difference you get between the two

[@DJUwU]

*LOL Covid 19 bringing some new fans into Sim Racing! Looks fun, can't wait for my Logitech to arrive!*

[@Spooky4815]

I use the g29 on asseto corsa and its great for the price, my only complaint is that the wheel does not spin fast enoug when drifting.

[@sabersz]

Bro, my G920 is IMMENSE. Had it for a few months now, you'll love yours

[@SrirajaPanich]

Man I can’t find any in stock!

[@theambergryphon4266]

@@SrirajaPanich Same.

[@stevenhorsefield2909]

Nothing changes for me. my job is considered essential.

[@dtmjax5612]

I’m still enjoying my G920. For the price, the build quality is excellent, and it gives me enough FFB feel for my liking. At some point I’ll move on I think, but for now I’m still enjoying the sim experience the Logitech gives me. The leather wrapped and nicely stitched wheel, and solid industrial look and feel in three pedal set (I did add the H shifter) is pleasantly surprising especially compared to the “plastic-y” similar offerings from Thrustmaster. Great informative video all around, thank you for posting it. 👍

[@caliginousmoira8565]

u noyt hakor sim raser unless yu gots 2k pedals, wheel base. 500 shifta lobesell and 600 wheel, car frame and body as a rig..... how dare you justify your purchase by enjoying it and having fun(good job).... you don't belong in "harkor sem raser" class.... you have to argue how this game is "simcade" and how your fav sim[game] is 'realer' than this guy's sim[game]...

[@maybemammad3878]

@@caliginousmoira8565 that gave me a good laugh man 😂 thanks

[@Custom2011]

I don't believe you as I got the g923 and its garbage, the whole setup.

[@mikimosky4109]

I have a driving force gt with an incredible force feedback, 900° and pedals plus shifter bought for 50€. Best money ever spent in my life.

[@user-vt6yz3ef5y]

RIP Will thank you for the video

[@effrumtheretardo]

I snagged that Logitech MOMO Racing for $20, and it was great fun for a couple of years until the force feedback broke. It also only had about 200 degrees of rotation but hey, it was $20. Edit: finally upgraded to a G27 back in June. It's still "entry-level" but I love how it comes with an H-pattern shifter and 3-pedal set all in one. Hard to beat for a manual transmission enthusiast on a tight budget.

[@Kyleconley59]

The best budget wheel is the thurstmaster tmx force feedback

[@AshToxin]

Indy GT tmx pro I would say, the pedals on the normal aren’t very good from my experience

[@martinlatal_]

Logitech G27

[@z.c8108]

g29 and tmx

[@spicyndl6683]

AshToxin I agree. It is very smooth, and cheap as well.

[@ShreN_]

The sub-100 range is really mediocre, then there's me with my Logitech DFGT that I got for £30 from eBay

[@skeletron77mcpe]

lol I used one of those for a long time

[@Erowens98]

DFGT is the best cheap wheel. Only problem is its out of production. So you can only find it used. If you want under 100$ and you can find one there is no better choice. It actually has FFB, which, while weak (i think 1.7Nm gear driven) is eons ahead of not having FFB.

[@TK421-53]

DFGT is really surprisingly good and long lasting.

[@erwinmuskens3149]

Bought my DFGT for 35 euro. And now i bought a G29 for 135 euro second hand. Bought a HSS shifter for 100 euro. 2 extra 24 inch screens for 45 euro to make triple screensetup. for 300 euro i have a blast.

[@rooboo614]

yup got one for the 30 as well on gumtree! EASILY the best wheel for that price and for a great deal more

[@johnja9017]

I'm watching this after I bought a SimuCube pro 2. I'm glad to see I made the best choice :)

[@6ixss]

If you have money, just do it!!!! if you have not so much budget , dont be fool . just enjoy your game. you dont need 1500$gear to race, you do not need GPU 1500$ to play, you dont need 800$ gaming chair to play, all you need is compromise and patience ! Also _do your research! search forums, videos , likes-dislikes, people first wheel experience_ , Btw this video is very useful, and explains them beautifully and clearly. I will also share my experience with anyone who needs it in that sentence > G29 budget for starter is pretty good for 2 years of hard use, but after that, I will go for something more solid, and definitely not plastic. Sometimes it is finally worth giving them once and for all to get the expensive one. rather than two or three cheap. Also something last and short but very important. *DO NOT PLUG - UNPLUG* things . This reduces the service life of the device / cables / sockets. to any device.

[@anderu2384]

The premium wheels in my country are the Thrustmaster wheels

[@55tristin55]

"youll never see the g29 for that $400 price tag" due to corona virus i cant find anyone who has it in stock for less than $500 smh

[@omgvague]

I've found a couple used with the shifter included for $400 but I'd rather have new.

[@55tristin55]

nephyril i have the worst luck with hardware. Everything I’ve gone through 4 headsets, 6 mouses, 3 pc cases and a bunch of other stuff that usually ends up dead on arrival. I’m usually able to return then and get them replaced but I’ve got terrible luck with it so I’m waiting to get it new so I have manufacturers warranty. Thanks though I appreciate the reply. Walmart has it for $200 but it’s out of stock I’m hoping they restock that one.

[@CloverKnight]

I just bought my g29 for 300. You just have to find them

[@silentcontrol85]

In Germany u get the new g29 + shifter for 270€/ 320$ or without shifter for 240€ what's round about 280$... u just need to look, it cost me 2min bro.

[@unknownperson3691]

Check Microcenter

[@PeteBaldwin]

I got a brake mod (GTEye) for my Logitech G920 and the brakes feel so much better now. That was my main complaint about Logitech - the pedals felt way too weak and it was really difficult to be subtle on the brakes. Definitely worth checking out if you don't want to spend much but want a decent upgrade.

[@Nix-i5r]

I ride the Series X and am completely satisfied with the Logitech! Yes, the gear technology is relatively noisy, but there is a simple solution to make it almost completely silent. If you have some manual skills, you can do the conversion for 1€ in just under half an hour (Warning!!! Warranty expires) Unscrew the steering wheel, remove both motors and you get to the gear rail. Degrease cleanly and stick a thin layer of felt (similar to chair gliders) to the bottom of the running surface. Then grease everything well (including the felt layer), assemble everything and almost not hear it anymore. Quieter than the rumble effect of a controller. Because it is not the gears that make the noise, but the play of the rack on the sliding surface. Works for me now more than 2000 hours without problems. Even in continuous use of uninterrupted 12 hours. Can of course also be used on the G29... To do this, of course, remove the rubber stopper in the brake and if you want it to be even more realistic, close the air outlet hole in the lower sleeve with a screw and hot glue. Insert a thin round rubber seal into the milling of this sleeve and grease it well. Put everything back together and you will be amazed. Due to this conversion, the air in the sleeve cannot escape and the harder the pedal is pressed, the more it is compressed. It's not rocket science and both conversions present you with a better driving experience.👋 Of course I left you a subscription

[@carchef9702]

Upgrading to a direct drive wheel from an old G27. Thanks to this review I'm more informed before my next purschase!

[@mivoracing2663]

Moving T300 RS GT > CSL Elite + Clubsport pedals. 1.2 seconds cut in 5 laps. So yes, it does massively impact the lap times

[@hazty5273]

5:33 - For those that aren't familar with this "wheel" - it is NOT a wheel. It is a modified xbox controller. How do I know? It's what I'm using... and yes, you can 'race' with it. Competitive, you could but not really. But if you are under a budget, do I recommend it? Yes! But remembee, you get what you paid more. No force feedback, limited degrees pf rotation and a whole lot more but for anything casual, no problems at all.

[@dimo3747]

I have the t300 rs gt and it's such a good wheel in my eyes great upgrade coming from the g25

[@fusionsniping3741]

I'd love to buy it but I hope there will come a good discount on it

[@TheKenji2221]

Wooo ! T300 RS GT Team ! :D Love his wheel

[@dimo3747]

@@fusionsniping3741 have ypu checked on the second hand market that's where i bought mine

[@fusionsniping3741]

@@dimo3747 no, but there is that chance that there is something wrong with

[@Johnny_Thunder]

Loved mine

[@SeeOHZee]

Getting a wheel to start with is not going to happen in this moment, due to the high demands and price gouging from third party sellers.

[@ricardoteapila4269]

See OH Zee I bought the g29 last year for about 260 with pedals only. Now it’s over 400!!

[@SeeOHZee]

@@ricardoteapila4269 That's the wheel I wanted to start with and it's sad that they're out of stock in nearly every major store, first party sellers of course. I rarely trust third party sellers for that case.

[@bricaaron3978]

Don't worry. The positive side is that whenever there's a bubble like this, there's usually an eventual burst in which savvy people can get even better deals than ever before.

[@Mdudeman13]

Just paid $400 for a T300 RS GT, way too much but I’m impatient.

[@MightySatria]

If you really want a wheel but have limited budget less than $100 then I suggest the PXN v900 instead of the ones suggested in the video. No force feedback, but at least 900 degrees of rotation. Works well for Euro truck Simulator.

[@NazSef]

Interesting that only 2.5 years ago the $500-1000 range was dominated by belt driven bases. I am just getting into the hobby and this price point is now filled with quality direct drive bases. I was originally opting for the $400 Logitech/Thrustmaster option but looking a bit deeper I discovered that spending 50% more takes you from a high quality toy to an entry level professional product. I ended up getting a Moza R9 system but a R5 bundle can be had for $600 though adding the $29 brake kit is mandatory in my opinion. The user interface and performance upgrade is pretty drastic and far beyond the 50% increase in cost. If you are able to stretch your budget I highly recommend it.

[@samzilla1050]

T300 with the new tlcm pedals are probably the best bang for your buck in 2020

[@wedgoku]

A few years ago I wanted to get into "sim racing", so I saved up some money to purchase a $300USD Logitech G25 wheel/pedal/shifter setup during a black friday sale. The Logitech G25 was a complete nightmare from the buggy Windows 7 driver support to the wheel that was not centered & would drift to the side when going straight (wheel was calibrated correctly using the Logitech software & reading many online forums). The entire thing is made out of cheap plastic & you are supposed to screw down the shifter to your desk but that is also made out of a cheap plastic material that breaks if you tighten it down too tight. I refunded my Logitech G25 wheel from Amazon & went back to using a Xbox 360/Xbox one controller, Logitech ended up burning too many bridges!

[@user-eb8ti2vf8t]

RIP We all miss you Will

[@JoeyJoJo85]

What a fantastic guide. As much as I'd have loved the T300 RS with the 8 H shifter I couldn't afford it. But I managed to find a brand new Logitech G923, shifter, AND a really good frame second hand on the marketplace for only $400 Australian dollars! That frame alone is like $350 rrp and the wheel in Australia is $599 rrp. Super happy with the purchase. I've tried the g29 and have to say the g923 brake pedal is soooo much better. Plus the wheel looks nicer being all black. Now that I'm happy with the wheel, I'll save up one day for a Fanatec wheel when I can afford to upgrade

[@bobboberton1841]

I consider the the T300RS GT with 3 peddles to be one of my better purchases. I was able to find it for $202 new. A definite upgrade to my T150 with 2 peddles. I am not a "serious" sim racer like a lot of people here, but I do enjoy a good racing wheel to enhance the experience. My upgrade path has been T80, T150, T300RS. Each upgrade occurring with no buyers remorse. My next purchase may be the shifter, but I am not sure the price for the TH8A is worth it as I am not sure if I will like it. It costs more than either of my first 2 wheels by itself.

[@carlitoxb110]

this is more relevant than ever because covid

[@Flavian538]

Well done, mate! For a long time I'm looking for a video that talk in details about steering wheels and it's features! Thank you very much!

[@Simracingpaddock]

Thank you! Soon I'm going to be working on a spreadsheet to lay out the different Features and elements of wheels

[@UnlovedZetsu]

I'm in love with my Fanatec F1 wheel setup, it's great

[@sirius9108]

Had for 6 months and love it... I started with a g29 and upgraded to the Csl Elite in like 4 months. Once you go belt-driven you don't go back

[@UnlovedZetsu]

Yeah it's been 2 months for me and so far it's awesome

[@Chaos8282]

I grabbed a Logitech Driving force Pro for like 60 bucks. Got me into sim racing. Its a bit small for my bigger hands, but works great.

[@GTFour]

I had the original Microsoft Force Feedback wheel when new, was literally a total game changer :)

[@MachoMadness69420]

I "downgraded" from a T300RS to a G29 when the Thrustmaster crapped itself after only 200 hours of use. Add to it there seems to be a lot of issues with Thrustmaster wheels I no longer have any trust in their longevity. Perfectly happy with the Logitech though. I tend to go light on the FFB, so the weaker motor of the Logitech is a not an issue for me.

[@matthewkane7524]

ilikepizza I bought 2 Thrustmaster T300RS wheels that were dead the moment I unpacked them. Glitches to the pause screen in the middle of corners sent my 3rd one packing.

[@MachoMadness69420]

@@matthewkane7524 Well that sucks :/ In my case the wheel just decided to not turn on anymore. Went from working perfectly one day to refusing to turn on the next.

[@thecarbonfiberkid]

My T300 crapped out on me 5 days after warranty. Turn it on and it just spins and slams. Thrustmaster said it lost calibration. They also said send it to us to Canada mind you for $$ to see if they could fix. If they couldn’t they wouldn’t send it back. Been looking at fanatec‘ s f1 setup for new setup.

[@thetreblerebel]

I really want to get into Racing sims and wheel set ups. Nothing huge but just for fun.

[@soslime7238]

You should 🙌🏽

[@thetreblerebel]

@@PullThePlug88 yessir. I've got an entry level wheel. But it's really great and I enjoy playing a multitude of different race games with it

[@amm0gamm0]

15:42 gotta love that group B understeer :D

[@shmokeythefatcat]

Lmao

[@PlaySA]

CSL Elite is great. I use it on a frame with my PC and it's been the best wheel I've ever used

[@dar3684]

a very nice guide. i wish you went more into pedals because one wouldn't buy a wheel without buying pedals so the 'setup' cost would be different than what was described here. While i now know what to look for in wheels i'm still pretty lost when it comes to pedals or other attachments

[@BTouch454]

It was very helpful, thank you! I have a G29 now and looking to advance so thanks for giving an in-depth vid on 3 wheels I was considering.

[@loooongstory]

I absolutey love the tmx pro set. I got the logitech shifter to go along with it with an adapter and it works great. My only complaint about the wheel is it feels maybe a little small.

[@vde1915]

The Logitech shifter works ??

[@MOMAZOSPATO]

I have a t150 and pedals are shitty but im having a lot of fun

[@bestpilots3972]

as someone who loves cars but can't afford it IRL, sim racing with wheels is...... oh wait I can't afford wheels either

[@kosztaz87]

Many of these wheels cost more than my car.

[@jesuisFORTIO]

i had a fanatec gt2 wheel, what a pain in the ass, went to warranty 4 times. in the other hand the csp pedals WHERE AMAZINGGG and i sold them 3 years later without any problems

[@EmilyRose0]

I never played with a wheel and I am looking for a wheel for Dirty Rally. In my personal theory 900 deg and more rotation is actually annoying there as you will end up having to spin the wheel agressively left and right all the time.

[@LPherby]

Got my G29 last week, its great :D

[@TheAustrianDuke]

I´m still rocking the old Logitech MOMO Wheel hahah ;D But you can hear that it´s gotten old...the wheel makes "plastic cracking" noises while turning, without something damaged.. so yea.. i´m slowly looking for a new (up to date) one ;D Greetings from Austria

[@MarcusAurelius-20VT]

The AustrianDuke my G920 going strong after 5 years, little bit of EP2 grease on the rails and still feels old haha

[@raulaugusto1641]

Me from Brazil finding out that even the cheapest wheels are expensive here

[@AllanPesk]

Vontade de chorar

[@airtonaraujo3972]

o jeito é fabricar uma

[@MaeGambler]

"my recommendation for the 100-300 dollar range is the Logitech g920" a 400-600 dollar wheel XD nailed it there buddy

[@kennex2008]

Gambler I used to buy it brand new for 200€ like half a year ago. Wait after covid, the price will drop again!

[@benhur2806]

For the sub-100 category: A used Driving Force GT - I could get one for merely 40$ used, and it's already a lot better than a bungee cord one. Just make sure the table you use it on doesn't wobble, else it'll make a LOT of noise...

[@oscargascoyne9835]

I've got a thrustmaster tmx wheel and overall it is a great wheel for the price. Although you do not get a three pedal set included, in my opinion the thrustmaster pedal set is higher quality than the offering from logitech. Also the shifter included with the logitech wheel is pretty low quality and if playing on console this is the only shifter you can use with the wheel, whilst the thrustmaster addon shifter is considerably more expensive i personally beleive that it is better value in the long term as it is a better quality shifter.