The ULTIMATE Sim Racing Shifter Buyer's Guide - 2023 Edition

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[@OCRacing]

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[@Horsepower2nd]

Can u connect the fanatec shifter with the t300 wheel?

[@Goonak_]

Went outside to touch grass but it's covered in snow, now my hand is cold, thank you OC Racing.

[@OCRacing]

Glad I could help 😂👍

[@BrokenHeartGxng]

imma go outside and touch grass or something

[@TaxThePoor]

Bad idea

[@Madcuzbad222]

Cap

[@collinkaufman2316]

Crying Bart emoji

[@mkatakm]

Please you do that too instead of watching videos on KZbin.

[@DieK4rtoffel]

eyebrow brakedance emoji🤨

[@Titanic4]

1:27 - Logitech recently released the adapter, which allows you to use the Driving Force shifter with practically any steering wheel, regardless of the manufacturer. 2:56 - TH8A Shifter has the adjustment screw located near the first gear location, on the left side. With the flat head screwdriver you can adjust the force required to change from neutral to any of the available gears. You can actually see the adjustment screw at 3:44 mark of the video.

[@ricardoa1661]

been using a TH8A for a few years now and was today years old when i found about the adjustment lol thank you

[@jaydendewaardt7609]

does the apater make it work with a thrustmaster wheel base on ps5 ?

[@TheOnlyKontrol]

Maybe it should of been 3 instead of 4 lol but most people don’t know this

[@AyyLmaoZedong]

The screw doesn't do much. Even tightened all the way it's too weak.

[@Hannes-lo8tv]

Can you Play With the logitech Shifter and a trustmaster Wheel on PlayStation?

[@bennobenji]

I race in an Assetto Corsa club. Lots of guys have the SHH and Fanatec shifters. I have an SHH and it's amazing for the price. Hasn't gone wrong in 2 years of hammering it. The SHH internals are really strong plastic and all metal bearings. Only the outer casing is 3D printed. Everyone that has a Fanatec shifter has had problems with build quality and they fail suddenly and either need to be taken apart or sent back to Fanatec.

[@linod3]

I've had the shh for almost two years on max resistence, mounted to a rig, and I never had a single problem with it

[@thermgraphics6937]

The end of the video had me rolling 😂😂 I’m gonna go touch grass now I guess… 🤣

[@OCRacing]

LOL, didn’t think anyone would actually watch until the very end 💀😂

[@kreeedens]

@@OCRacinggonna go touch grass rn too 😭

[@Chris-km8wy]

Might be a bit challenging for me as i got like 2 feet of snow on top of my lawn

[@neblolthecarnerd]

As a g29 owner if you're looking to upgrade your shifter but don't want to buy an entirely new one I'd recommend the 3drap stiffness and sequential mod. It does feel quite cheap and flimsy but works pretty good in action. Also it's still viable for console users like me.

[@OCRacing]

Yup, thankfully tons of more available for the Logitech shifter

[@IamAW]

Instead of buying a shifter for 50, and another 50+ on mods for it, you might as well just get a good shifter instead.

[@maximous-prime]

@@IamAW are you high, 50 bucks..

[@themrwinston9570]

i love my shh shifter. no durability issues yet and i've been ragging on it for about a year now. i can understand worrying about durability because of it's lightweight 3d printed construction, but i havent even heard stories of them breaking and mine has never so much as creaked. i cant honestly say the fanatec shifter didnt have me drooling a bit, but for 2.5x the money, ill just keep my plastic fantastic.

[@AlexRib]

shame there's no table mount

[@Jkeez]

@@AlexRib For SHH shifter? Yes there is, plenty of mounting options on their website, including table mount.

[@oliverwilson999]

Pentax lens reference

[@themrwinston9570]

@@AlexRib i currently have the table mount clamped to my wheelstand...

[@AlexRib]

@@Jkeez I guess I didnt pay attention , thanks!

[@tednicholl7025]

You can make the Amazon shifter can be made a lot more quiet by putting some heat shrink tubing over the shift rod and applying heat to adhere it to the shaft. I've done this to my Amazon TOCITAA shifter and it's almost silent now.

[@dragon2knight]

I use both the Logitech shifter and the usb shiter and the usb shifter blows it away. Good feel and it's tough as nails as well. The Thrustamster really should't cost what it does, especially after being around as long as it's has, that price is ridiculous. Nice roundup, Oscar! (Oh, and I'm steppin' outside and touchin' concrete, city life baby!! 🤣)

[@OCRacing]

Concrete 😍😂

[@trob_12]

USB shifter is fire

[@MassBred88]

@@trob_12 yep thrustmaster shifter once taken apart u realize its a cheapo marketed as a expensive one lol weird stuff. im ordering a ebay shifter 49 bucks for 7 + R. ill take it

[@king8941]

​@MassBred88 the one you bought works with thrustmaster wheel? Or u using logitech?

[@leonardocarillo1896]

Forza doesn’t seem to pick up my usb shifter any advice on what to look into

[@cpt_anthony]

I love how as I’m scrolling around for a shifter you upload this. xD

[@OCRacing]

I’m always watching 👀

[@potatoglizzy3212]

Missing the moza and the VNM shifter, probably the two products people are most interested in this year seems to be a bit of an oversight of yours…

[@lukeb8812]

By the way th8a shifter there’s a hole on the side and if you tighten it to increases the resistance into each gear

[@OpieDope]

I have been using the TH8A shifter for a few years now and can say it holds up well. And if you have a weighted knob laying around to replace the cheap on it comes with it feels much better.

[@ThePudgyPlatypi]

As a fanatec shifter owner I think it is worth mentioning that the shifter WILL start missing shifts and generally misbehaving at some point, if not multiple points, in your ownership of the shifter. This is solved by opening the shifter and cleaning it with rubbing alcohol and removing some of the PCBs and adding electrical tape to the back of the PCBs that have the hall effect sensors. One of the PCBs on mine already had electrical tape covering one of the sensors so fanatec is aware there is a problem...thankfully it is easily remedied but that really soured the taste for this shifter in my eyes

[@Michelsen3K]

Will the misshift problem come back even with the tape on the backside of the pcb?? Thanks

[@ThePudgyPlatypi]

@@Michelsen3K it hasn't yet...did it about 2 months ago? I have had lil miss shifts here and there but so far so good...I also haven't been driving nearly as much in the past month so that could be why too haha

[@zwenkwiel816]

that is one benefit of the th8a, that thing is practically indestructible.

[@macsgo2hell]

Damn Moza is about to release their hpattern soon, any chance we’ll get to see that in a separate review?

[@OCRacing]

Haven’t heard anything from them unfortunately. I’ll try though!

[@lil_pai]

@@OCRacing Would love a review of it from you, would be great if you added it to this list in your review video too ^

[@shoeatic]

Curious where you would put the Moza shifter.

[@kmsthanks]

I have tried the first 3 shifters on this list, and the aliexpress/usb shifter is definitely my favorite by a long shot. The logitech shifter feels terrible and like a 5 dollar toy, so avoid it because paying 50 or more is not worth it. Don't even buy upgrades for it, because it's just not worth the money (coming from experience) . If you have a logitech shifter and want to upgrade it, I would just save the money or sell it, and get the USB shifter. (unless you don't use pc or don't have a rig to mount it on) The th8a I've tried on my friends wheel, it's okay but it's pretty weak but feels very lubed up and has long throws, but doesn't justify the price. The shifter just feels too tame and doesn't feel mechanical The generic usb shifter can come with many additions like a sequential mode plastic insert or a semi truck gear switcher, which is nice. I use the plastic insert quite a bit, it feels okay but it's super quick to put in. The shifting feel is not all that realistic (you could replace the springs inside to make it lighter or tighter) but the tactile feeling is kind of unbeatable, and banging through gears is super satisfying. I imagine that's what a gated race car shifter would feel like. If you don't care about noise and enjoy very harsh shifting, it is definitely the recommendation for me. I've been using it for over a year been abusing it, but it still works perfectly. There is sort of a break in period at the start then the shifting becomes slightly less resistant and easier but still tactile. Do note that because the centering spring is pretty stiff, it can be easy to miss shift when racing hard, and I would consider buying the 6 speed version as well since it's a little difficult to shift into 6 sometimes and 7th never really gets used As a final note, simracing-pc website does a great comparison of the shh newt shifter and the usb shifter. Long story short, if you like more refined, elegant, better sequential mode, then get the newt. If you prefer to really slam into gears, get the USB one.

[@dra6o0n]

Get a sim racing shifter and DIY it for cheap. It should come with a USB Encoder board and a simple arcade stick, doesn't take a ton of time to do, you just need a box or enclosure to build it in and plug it in, it works instantly. Some arcade sticks has mechanism insider that lets you determine if the stick can move in a certain way (like a 2 way shifter for up and down). Others uses a plastic 'clip' that goes on the bottom to lock the whole module together, you can 'mod' this to only move the stick 2 way by gluing solid plastic parts in the gap so it can only move in one direction, it's not very hard to do if you have those cabinet rubber stoppers with adhesive, and a sharp knife to carve it with. It's usable and depending on your skill can be done for under $30. Remember that racing wheels uses the X axis for turning and never uses any Y axis, the pedals are all using rX and rY which is basically a different stick if you compare it to gamepads. So you'd want to make sure your module is shifting Y axis up and down and not the X axis because the binding in games sees them all tied together as one.

[@nicololorenzon3291]

Considering I just broke my TH8A this video comes in just in time

[@OCRacing]

Made it just for you 🫡

[@Rollingzoku89]

The Amazon shifter is actually a lot more realistic feeling and how it functions. I have chassis mounted short shifter in my e36 and the "feel" of the usb shifter is almost exactly like my real car. I have had a couple of friends try it too and they agree. Best deal you can get for 70-90 dollars. Mine came with a mini button box too. The sequential mode is good too.

[@Thesawen]

Hi! Could you please give me the link?

[@TexturaI]

I bought the H-pattern 6+R versions of the USB shifter. Mine arrived with the 3rd and 4th gear broken but I fixed the 3rd gear and now the 4th gear needs to be pushed forward in the slot. The ball broke off very easily. Just in case someone was looking at it. If you risk it and get it, they gave money back for me, so they should for you.

[@michaeldejesus7576]

My day is going good and it's 21 degrees outside right now not going out to touch any grass lol!!!!!

[@elvish4432]

Well bro, was still watching cause- I just wanted to message you and say… thanx for all the hard work in making content for us And YOUR VIDEOS ROCK🤘❤️✌️👍

[@OCRacing]

THANK YOU 🙏

[@oktc68]

I mostly use paddle shifters but for older manual cars I've always fancied a shifter. Tried the TH8 when I was in that ecosystem but thought it was overpriced, I want to like the Fanatec but it's pricey and I think a little soft in H pattern mode and I wouldn't use sequential mode cos paddles, right? I think the obvious absence here is the excellent Moza HGP, H pattern only but one of the best, very so.id and precise with excellent tactile feedback, straightforward mounting (base only) and excellent, all aluminium casing construction. Very solid and mechanical feel. £140, a steal!

[@GoldPrisma]

I have the Logitech shifter, was going to mod it to make it feel more realistic but after going through the options I’d be spending just as much if I had spent more in the first place. Waiting on my fanatec club sport with the usb dongle for 181 usd with shipping. Not a bad deal with Black Friday prices.

[@TinoushGTR]

I had the TH8A and upgrade to Clubsport shifter recently. I can agree. That shifter is way better. And the best part is i can change it H, sequential or handbrake with slide of a button. I never used my TH8A as sequential because of the hassle.

[@e30m3bimmer]

Just now noticing that the thumbnail looks surprisingly similar to Chris Hayes thumbnail. Either way great video as always!

[@shawndixon4536]

I bought a used Thrustmaster T300RS and T3PA-Pro pedal set, so I wanted to stick with an entire ecosystem, so I bough a new TH8A shifter and a new TSS handbrake/sequential for close to $900 CND. I like both, but I do plan on modifying my TH8A shifter to be able to change to sequential mode with a toggle switch instead of having to remove the h-plate. I've been looking around for a major discount (Amazon discount box stores like where I got a GT Omega Classic wheel stand sealed in box for $20) or a used broken one on a marketplace I can salvage the few parts I need for the mod. I kind of like the features of the Fanatec, but I am not a fan of them as a company and, again, unless I found it used or on major discount, I would not even consider it.

[@Adraverse]

Just recently ordered the SHH shifter and I'm excited to see how it feels like...

[@OCRacing]

Awesome! Let me know how you like it :)

[@Sim_Wheel]

Fanatec shifters have an internal issue that causes them to register incorrect shifts on average just a bit over a year. Plenty of videos and forum discussions about this. Hopefully they release an updated version soon because you’re right, they feel great.

[@samdajellybeenie14]

Yeah I saw Jimmy Broadbent live on stream at the beginning of an endurance race shift to 4th and the shifter registered it as 2nd and blew up the motor. :(

[@rzekry]

@@samdajellybeenie14 Yes sir!

[@Sim_Wheel]

@@samdajellybeenie14 :(

[@chandrizzle]

Saw posts on Reddit that it's the cable. Somehow it goes bad and replacing it with a known good one gets rid of the misshifts. Is it a standard RJ12? I don't have one so I don't recall what cable/connector it was

[@Sethsimracing]

I'm thinking between Fanatec and Moza's shifter, still leaning towards Moza as I plan to go Moza for my first DD wheel. :D

[@Lilpepaa]

The logitech shifter I’d say is ok but if you buy a third-party shifter and then buy just a normal shifter, the shifter adapter that it comes with will work perfectly so you have a weighted

[@imfeelingood1878]

g25 shifter for a full package, there's shifter both sequential and 6 speed and lot's of button to programmed

[@bozhidartanev6135]

Really good video for a people that are thinging about what to buy. Cool video.

[@sokminegodglacerman9489]

This pretty much sold me on upgrading to the club sport shifter from my th8a

[@mkatakm]

I wish you included the Moza HGP shifter too.

[@hippysplace]

Very good video, helped me make my decision, thanks👍

[@NewbieRacer]

Thank you so much!! I have only seen Talking Shift’s youtube channel do this. And now you did this. Perfect!! Huge thanks. I would appreciate a lot if you can also review the Aiologs Project’s sequential shifter 👍

[@OCRacing]

I’ll see what I can do! Thanks for the comment :)

[@MotoMedicine904]

I recently swapped out my Logitech shifter. I tried the "amazon special' like the 3rd one in the video. my issues with it were the noise and the side to side spring resistance made it difficult to hit 6th gear accurately. I sent it back and got the TH8A and i love it. There are some mods out there to add some more of that tactile click I might look into. otherwise the resistance and gear spacing/throw is far superior to the logitech.

[@GoingTrackSideinAlberta]

Running a Modified Logitech G Series shifter with Custom Sim Shop H-pattern improvement mod highly recommended combing it with the Clixbeetle-GX mod makes it so much Better. Plus there's a sequential mod out there

[@CRT_Wolf]

Awesome guide! Me voy al monte mae😅

[@neef68]

Thanks for this comparison!

[@Sir.YeetusIII]

I have the shh and I gotta say it's amazing

[@OCRacing]

Glad you’ve enjoyed it!

[@magicfok]

The shifter of G25 is the best , it can be sequential shifter or can be a handbrake.

[@Call_MeJD]

Sweet! Now, which racing games are compatible with these shifters? Played 3 games so far and none of them worked

[@Epiphonech]

Thanks for comparison! Missing the Moza HGP though as choosing between Fanatec and Moza.

[@OCRacing]

Between those two, I would go with the Fanatec one at its currently discounted price. You can find a link to it on www.simspots.com

[@m83555]

I just bought the ‎TH8A for 130 bucks (black friday offer). I think it is a good deal and I like to plug it directly into my T300 instead of having another USB device for my PC with cabling and so on.

[@diegocamarena2078]

I wanted to a make a senna sim setup, any got any ideas on which sequential shifter to get? 😅🙏

[@_chex]

Great video! Maybe one day we’ll see reviews of the VNM and Moza shifters.

[@simonolsen9995]

No mention of the long standing random gear selection problem that creeps into Fanatec shifters. They're great until this recurring problem occurs, then you have to take it apart, perform secret rituals and then put it back together again. Until next time.

[@n0ti5]

I was seeing that around about the clubsport shifter and its something that bothered me a bit so i went with the new Simagic DS-8X because it can flip between sequential and H just as fast or faster. I just hope it dosnt have similar issues or any bad problems. So far the few reviews that are out are very positive

[@6070naC_hsA]

Where would you put the PXN A7 shifter? I'm sure it would be next to the Logitech, but is it better or worse, in your opinion?

[@randomgamer5783]

Now the th8s is definitely a cool option

[@Fooooshy]

Question on this list where would you rank the moza hgp shifter?

[@Phonemeister_official]

I'm getting a G29 as my first wheel anyway and I probably won't use it for other purposes other than maybe for trucking simulators like ETS2 or ATS

[@johndc7446]

I recently saw a Hori 7 speed shifter in amazon. Its only around $80 and has a sequential feature. Any reason why is this not on the list? Is this a bad shifter or is it just new? I am interested in trying it, I am just not sure if its a good shifter considering it has no reviews from the internet.

[@IamAW]

I wanna know how the Moza shifter compares to the Ebay shifter and Fanatic shifter.

[@DemonTrx]

Just getting started into the sim drifting/racing world. Where would you place the thrustmaster th8s on this list?

[@DrIvanC3]

Interesting timing of this video as the Moza shifter was released today (one day after this video released). Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.

[@Hyatchi]

Really impressive video. Keep up the good work.

[@Michelsen3K]

I sold my TH8 with mod. It's a ball bearing mod which increase the tension. Instead i bought the cheap ali express shifter for 30,- from sim jack. The mechanical feeling is better. But be aware it's a loud one

[@YuriDontPlay]

I got the th8a for like 10 bucks 50 with wheel 3 pedals and shifter just oedeeed a cable to connect to the wheel

[@matusjurcik6974]

Thrustmaster th8s I actually compared to moze H shifter. Moza is unrealistic that ,,clicky,, feel is bad, it feels realy bad. Thrustmaster much better much realistic. Th8s not bad at all. I know moza wasnt listed

[@KabirAdvani]

Great video! I would've liked to have seen the VNM Shifter V2 in this video as well.

[@OCRacing]

Thanks! I tried my best to gather as many as I could for this video but never heard back from VNM :/

[@itshxndo9297]

what is the best shifter for ps5 i need to know!!!

[@Tylr_Whitlck]

your gonna have to do an updated version of this one day since thrustmaster are releasing a cheaper more affordable shifter on 27th july. th8s which is mainly plastic

[@Michael_Lorenson]

Excellent, thanks.

[@toetipper100]

why does no one no one at all ever talks about the fact the TH8A can be used as a handbrake on PC its rather good

[@OCRacing]

I didn’t know that actually, interesting 🤔

[@toetipper100]

@@OCRacing its just a matter of hitting one button in the thrustmaster th8a software

[@TheElement911]

Is it possible to use two devices for shifting and handbrake at the same time on PS5?

[@joshuacarpentier951]

Can you mix and match shifters with different wheels like getting a USB shifter like especially with asseta Corsa or does it need to be connected to wheel

[@anan7s294]

Simagic gear is also a nice alternative to Fanatec.

[@markchurch5273]

The ending done me. 😂😂

[@blueflash1812]

How about the thrust master th8s shifter it feels good and is only £60 /75 dollars and works well

[@Aelvecilla_official]

Question, does the Amazon shifter have any like adapters for Xbox because I would love that but I don’t have a pc, only Xbox

[@DorianDavisddd]

So do any of these work on the Logitech besides the Logitech

[@ChinzD]

What about the simagic, quaife, and simvertex shifters?

[@landonwc]

Does anyone know if the amazons shifter (3:55) works on iRacing? I just got it today and my game crashes ever since I’ve used it and I need to know if that’s cause it’s incompatible with iRacing.

[@OCRacing]

As long as you’re on PC, you shouldn’t have any problems using it on iRacing

[@reeceface]

Where are those fingerless gloves from ?

[@erst9345]

How do you feel about the Moza Shifter?

[@NoloPasoro01]

I rarely miss shift on the logitech shifter and it feels fine for me. Maybe its just because I am so used to it.

[@noaharcher543]

you can CHAND THE RISTENCE ON A THRUSTMATER TH8A SHIFTER

[@JoseNunez-py5ho]

I recently bought the g920 but now I'm looking for a shifter that works well with the g920 that isn't the logitech one. I'd like to know which shifter you recommend for around 60 usd?

[@rccosplay3249]

The Moza $150 USD shifter not listed in the video is the best for me

[@CamSeventyOne]

Nicely done.

[@Gamerxxnoob]

well, im thinking in buy a steering wheel on future, probably g29 or g923, im thinking on instead getting the logitech well, i get a generic shifter, i cant "save up to buy a better" because everything too expensive here in Brazil, so, is really worthy?

[@KeynSong]

Simagic's new shifter rules them all. Too bad it wasn't included in this video.

[@bgdaddy42069]

i just ordered a simagic one q1s for rally has a neutral switch too. 239 for a short handle and like 270 got a long handle cant wait

[@OCRacing]

Awesome! Let me know how you like ot

[@misterpacha1]

Just bought the Fanatec. It's the best here but. Wish it was a 6 speed with reverse on the right of the 6th gear. Feels strange to feel the notch feel of 1st to 2nd, makes 2nd feel like 4th. Usual cars 1st to 2nd is so smooth in real cars. Please fanatec release a 6 gear version, the strange reverse and 7th gear ruining the feel. Sequential isn't that great just ok, so temove that too and make a stand alone better sequential.

[@javianbrown8627]

I don't understand the prices on some of these things. It's not like they have cooling,a CPU/GPU or even memory but their prices can go up to a chap laptop or console. I find this is the case with custom controllers as well where it gets more expensive than it could be

[@Papery_Guy]

yes i had a good day and thank you

[@rc2k524]

I need some help, if planning to play with a t300 in ps4 and later ps5 plus my pc, is the th8a my only realistic option or should I go all out and get the fanatec because it comes already with the sequential? not sure if compatible but sounds like a better deal overall

[@zwenkwiel816]

pretty sure that on console you have to connect the th8a shifter to the t300 wheel base (cuz that's how I first did it on PC but it didn't work cuz on PC you have to use separate USB) guessing the fanatec stuff works similarly on consoles (as in the shifter goes with the wheel base) but I don't really know tbh.

[@francisdoucette3902]

I have thrustmaster t150 and tlcm pedal ordered today do you think the fanacted will work with my set up? I play on pc

[@gregseymour9795]

What are you using to mount the logi shifter? Trying to find something exactly like that to mount on an 8020 rig

[@idontknow-ms4tc]

can you do the same video tho with handbrakes

[@JonIceInternational]

That $70 shifter is REALLY good. If I don't win one from you, I'll certainly buy one. But the black version instead.

[@OCRacing]

Best of luck 🫡

[@Granny_Gaming]

Thrustmaster now sells a cheaper version of that shifter the TH8S

[@funnyanimalworld7579]

Ssh one looks probably the best of them all even though not the best but allso way cheaper than most.

[@Savacusi]

Didnt expect th8a to be in 5th place. You said that it doesnt have a lot of resistance, but cant you adjust it

[@nikolajsohrt2977]

Does the fanatec shifter work on ps5 with a non-fanatec wheel base? Don’t understand the purpose of the dongle

[@EAX-n5n]

Is there any Shifter for me? D: Like i need a highquality, sequential but also H Pattern Shifter, has to be compatible with PC and PS5, work together with Fanatec GT DD PRO, it also needs to stay quiet due to home equipment and deskmountcapable + maybe at the future, rig mount... damn, why is that so difficult. I really dislike that there are no standards. Like im racing both, rally and sim and i want a device capable of both, yet with a proper press down for reverse design.