Simcity 4 Mega-Region. Population: 107,658,254

[@ariztrad]

About 83,000 people per square kilometer. New York City has only about 28,000. Manila, the most densely populated city in the world, only has 48,000.

[@ariztrad]

42,000 sorry

[@Blastfluff]

mmm cozy

[@moistthatmeat9887]

Ariz Trad manila is shit,i hate living there because of the pollution and traffic

[@leogazebo5290]

dont get me started on EDSA

[@ElliotM2007]

Boi it's 110,000 for mannila

[@Destrov]

The reason crime has not skyrocketed is because they passed a law allowing police to take on the roles of judge, jury, and executioner.

[@PaulRudd1941]

oh so it's like the United States.

[@rohitreddyvummadi2365]

Punished reference?

[@oreotheuser]

​@@rohitreddyvummadi2365 Punished reference.

[@AsloAso]

Congratulations you have created a region in 6 months that's 1/3 the total population of the United States of America. Thumbs up to you mate.

[@RileyDaBozz]

And more than 20 times of New Zealand (my home country :) )

[@villa7230]

Riley Uhr no one cares

[@RileyDaBozz]

Nadie *breathes in through teeth Ouch

[@AsloAso]

Nadie A little rude don't you think?

[@eshwarkumar8138]

Villa rude

[@olivierrodriguesneto5995]

The soundtrack was the best part of the video, Kaneda's theme fits really well with this video. Really, great job dude!

[@jonavuka]

we shall name it concrete jungle

[@theviniso]

I call it Virtual Sao Paulo.

[@antonni5477]

br?

[@theviniso]

br!

[@mkvector9539]

Concretea Prime

[@alguemanonimo5592]

@@theviniso kkkkkkk

[@liuby33]

That was when Sim City was actually Sim "City".

[@MegaSim3]

This is absolutly terrifying and scary.. Imagine living there. It would be a nightmare, you wouldn't be able to the sky, you could never leave a city that covers an area this size.. Still good job. Very impressive.

[@badwithnames1467]

You could leave, it would just take a week

[@IluvSD40s]

+KaiserDragon This city isn't quite as big as you think it is. This region is made of 9x9 large city tiles, each of which has an edge length of 4 kilometers, so the whole region is 36 kilometers, squared. The corner-to-corner distance is 50.9 kilometers, which is roughly the track distance covered by the A train service in New York as it runs from Far Rockaway to northern Manhattan. Granted, the population density of this region is much higher than any real city, but I suspect that's because Simcity 4 fudges some population figures. For example, Simcity 4 lists 6000 residents living in a ~20 story tall tenement on a 64x64 meter lot. This would leave 4096 square meters of room for 300 sims on each floor, an average of 13.7 square meters (147 square feet) for each sim. Maybe this is normal by 19th century standards, but not by today's standards. (And this isn't even taking into account unusable space such as elevator shafts, pipes, and unused space around the perimeter of the lot.)

[@thefirstnossoboy8553]

And the jungle music lol

[@Cyphosis]

If that scares you, then don't read the part of Isaac Asimov's Foundation novel in which he describes the planet of Trantor. It's the seat of the Empire's government and entirely covered in one single city, with the city spanning upwards into the sky as well as deep into the planet's core.

[@motormaxis206]

Only 72 km across in any direction (about 45 miles). Not even taking traffic into account, it'd take at least an hour to get from one end to another by car. Of course, with traffic it might take more than 3 hours of driving. Walking, it would take almost 16 hours of straight walking, not counting breaks to eat, pee, rest, and question your sanity.

[@DG51440]

This is from the Akira OST in case anyone is wondering. Love that album.

[@peterritchie4777]

When I started making the video I knew I had to use something from Akira. How could I not?

[@thechildhoodruiner15]

Beijing in a few decades from now.

[@acezszx]

Nah the Pearl River Delta (Shenzhen, Guangzhou, Hong Kong and other cities) is already almost that big.

[@RoundenBrown]

China's population is declining so it'd probably be smaller then.

[@Anderson1992]

Man... I loved this city. The biggest city I'd even seen. Something achieved with the SimCity 4 only. Never got interested for their late Simcity 5 version back late 2013 March... they totally fucked with game... and I bought it only now even with its village small as city. I got the Offline Game Version and it seems I don't like it yet. Your city is really amazing. Thank you for posting it. PS.: Great idea using the "Kaneda's Theme (From "Akira") (Instrumental)" Thank you again.

[@pierbover]

music is from Akira

[@peterritchie4777]

How could I build a futuristic dystopian mega-city of over a hundred million people without paying tribute to one of the best movies depicting the same? Seriously love that tune. Thanks for noticing!

[@pierbover]

It's unmistakable! Love it too. We used to listen to this almost 20 years ago when we were teenagers and riding on our bikes.

[@ablestmage]

>play video, hear music >"I know this song.." AARGH WHAT IS IT >scroll down, see first comment "TETSUUUOOO" >belly laugh >wonder if giant spherical explosion will take place later in video

[@peterritchie4777]

ablestmage Wow... that would have been a great finale for the video! It totally looks like it should just blow up just like in the movie

[@fiftyfiveseventythree]

Peter Ritchie Now I have a new tune and a movie I want to watch. Thank you for adding that song.

[@DogsRNice]

you and the magnasanti guy need to lead the world

[@zenhendershott7907]

Have you learned nothing

[@mechamicro]

You live up to 65. Basically work to die

[@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis]

We can do better

[@Holgast]

Congrats, man. I never got around to making anything big in SC4, let alone this enormous. I always get carried away with mods and aesthetics and stuff. All of my mods got wiped at some point, so I had to redownload a bunch, but it was a completely different set so my really big regions were useless. I definitely need to attempt to make a complete region! Nice job with your mega region!

[@FrancoisGreen]

...And the rent is still too damn high!

[@CarsonNetwork]

For the last two weeks, I had been working on an up-and-coming city that was at 22k population and growing. Then, my computer froze and I lost ALL of my progress on the city. Never rage quitted harder in my life.

[@persel_hd]

With this game I learned to always save the game

[@42ML]

actually one of the greatest videos on youtube, the akira ost really elevates it

[@peterritchie4777]

@42ML Thanks. I've spent 10 years dabbling with a sequel but as of yet it hasn't worked out (technical limitations of game/pc). Haven't given up yet.

[@cayv7694]

this vs the mega joke "SimCity"

[@peterritchie4777]

Yeah. I don't think I will ever buy or play the new "simcity". The second they get their heads out of the sand and make a proper sequel to Simcity 4 I will give them my money in an instant though.

[@Priyo866]

Peter Ritchie You should get Cities: Skylines, mate. It allows really large cities (not the huge megalopolies of SC4, but still), works extremely well, and it got everything right whatever SC5 got wrong. It is the best city building game in my opinion alongside Simcity 4. And even more features have been announced, considering it has just been released.

[@Sean_735]

Priyo866 The traffic also makes it into a great hair pulling simulator, but the gameplay makes up for it and more.

[@Priyo866]

Seanathon James Usually, traffic system works fine. It all depends upon the way you design it.

[@Sean_735]

Priyo866 They merge like retards though. Plus the glitches with services sometimes results in large amounts of traffic that just shouldn't happen.

[@thefineboy3954]

Every time I hear the soundtrack for Akira im amazed by how good it is

[@carlosdavids777]

Still waiting the [REAL] SIM CITIY 5 ! societies and sc5 are crap compared with SIM CITIY 4 RH !

[@peterritchie4777]

Dude, I have a special stash of cash ready at any moment they make a real sequel to Simcity 4. I know I'm not alone.

[@carlosdavids777]

Peter Ritchie i have spent over 1000 hours on simcity 4, SC4 was really addictive and fun, if you use all the patches mods and stuff of internet this game becomes in a infinitive game... we are not alone in sites like simtropolis u can find many players waiting the real sequel. someday SC5 someday! PD. Amazing Job in this City!

[@BannAnOnMe]

look up -> 'cities: skylines' ...watch the trailer new game, looks amazing

[@NuclearPowerToaster]

Peter Ritchie cities skyline has just come out and seems to be the new simcity 4

[@peterritchie4777]

NuclearPowerToaster I am keeping an eye on it. Going to buy it in near future to give the limits a test.

[@BelgradeSim]

Basically, this city is a distopia. But a good experiment of reaching the limits of the game and urban planing as well.

[@peterritchie4777]

Exactly. Not where you want to live, but a good test of the simcity engine, which I feel passed with flying colours.

[@Priyo866]

Holy heavens...if only I was this skilled at playing SC4...

[@farnsworth3000]

TETSUOOOOOOO!

[@ed1pk]

KANEDAAAAAAAAA!

[@Fierce0Deity0Link]

***** TETSUOOOOOOO!

[@Metamere]

Fierce0Deity0Link KAAAAAANEEDAAAAAA!

[@izovire]

Akira?

[@sporegnosis]

@@izovire AKIRAAAAAA

[@silverhawk7324]

And I thought my civilization 3 game on Huge map took forever....

[@ram_stick_samurai]

thank you frog man for leading me here.

[@TheTechCguy]

Holy fucking shit, man. Great job! I've been playing this game since release day for it in '03 but I have never seen anything insane as this.

[@alexandrasvulfgang1205]

i want to give you two thumbs up for including a piece from the Akira OSC

[@xXMapleVodkaXx]

The Akira music was just too perfect

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

This is amazing dedication, I kind of lost interest after finishing 2 sub regions when I played >.< what's even more scary, imagine if each of the sub-regions was as "micro-managed to perfection" as the Magnasanti video from 3000! Assuming each region is roughly the same size as SC3000 maps, and the density were the same, it would come out to nearly half a billion!

[@ScottErosLegend]

wow nice work, i like vanilla games without mods and cheats! great stuff

[@ОльгаСтруева-з2ъ]

Excuse me. Can you give me a link for downloading of this city . I had ever seen this link, but I lost it

[@KingofUshankas]

i can barely start a city how can u do allat

[@GTAIVman]

My highest populated tile which is a medium sized tile has only 500K, though the entire city it's in is compromised of 3 medium tiles. The region it's in has 1.5million sims with one other major city.

[@peterritchie4777]

Up until last year that was the kind of region I would make. Then I made my first mega-city, Metropolis( imgur.com/a/FeSyA ). That was last fall. Once I made that, I had the mega-city bug. I had to make something big. Bigger. Insanely Big. It had to be the biggest thing anyone had ever tried without any of the mods or money cheats or anything to help. You don't want to know what ideas are kicking around in the back of my mind for my next project...

[@GTAIVman]

Peter Ritchie Wow that's nice. My biggest cities can't even compare. I'm currently working on a 16x16 large city tiled region. That region has one major city but another one is about to be developed. Only 600K sims. I've got that fever where I just want to build a really huge region that's all connected with massive highway intersystems.

[@sugarshow4941]

The smell of many people gathered together must be fatal.

[@YourCompanyNameCouldBeHere]

Neo Tokyo?

[@downsouthhustlin]

I give it up, you must be pretty good to be able to do that without cheats. I just think things like topography and water features are important in giving a region some character too.

[@G_Silent]

I’m always in awe at what people achieve with games like this one and how deep into the game they go to get the best results.

[@silentbutterfly5036]

Strangely, there are two kinds of whacky SC4 players: players who build to max pop of infinity and player who mod the game to super realistic, tiny detailed world.

[@Dufffaaa93]

Awesome! Before SimCity 2013 came up, I installed SimCity 4. Great game, but I had troubles with understanding mechanic behind supply and demand, so eventually my cities would start to shrink like Detroit. And then that crap of SimCity 5 come out...

[@peterritchie4777]

Simcity 4 works best if you develop a city from dirty to clean. Start with a really dirty money maker city, and work your way into the city you want as your funds get balanced out better. Then the game is all about perfecting what you built.

[@SpineShank7]

Now do this in Sim City 5! Oh wait... that game is terrible :P

[@MrPaksh]

Sim Village.

[@slevinsleven2775]

lol sim 5 is not that bad, it's just that the map are way too small....but the game itself is pretty good. The launch was a disaster (like most games nowadays) but now the game got no more issues...exept the very, very small maps...

[@liuby33]

slevin sleven Which basically destroys the whole idea of Sim City. Which city in the world have only one road to enter and exit?

[@SpineShank7]

Leo liuby Troy Montana. Never heard of it? Exactly. lol

[@liuby33]

I googled it and it showed a town with two entrances (which is still one more than towns in SC lol).

[@Arulux]

Now, NUKE IT!

[@peterritchie4777]

Check back in a while for video of the destruction of one of my cities. I will choose the one performing the worst, destroy it in multiple ways, and then delete it and start from scratch.

[@dawsonoo7]

I could never build this big, after a certain point large residential areas would just go abandoned and whatever I did to raise appeal or supply demand it wouldn't change much, while commercials would hardly get built

[@neamhdhlisteanach6720]

You'd need more industry. Things get abonded when there's no jobs or no supply. If it wasn't the commercial or supply, it was dirty industry.

[@peterritchie4777]

To be fair you don't want to anyways, one thing I don't point out is that the game took about 10 minutes to start and load the region each time I played. It was pushing the 1 core game way over it's threshold. I'm still searching for a workaround to beat this record...

[@innosam123]

How to you fulfill Industrial needs?

[@peterritchie4777]

The industrial regions surround each tile, and transit is a grid so all directions points to all things on the RCI

[@pata-hs1qr]

It is disappointing that Simcity 2013 does not have the ability to have a region of over a hundred million people. I hope that Cities Skylines can have it.

[@baneblade48]

Is it true that the newer Nvidia drivers make Simcity 4 all buggy? Because mine stopped working all the sudden. The intro is just a black screen with the odd bit of video showing but I can still hear the music. It's still black when the region map loads up too so it's just not playable for me. If this has happened to anybody else and you have found a solution, some help would be great. I have two GTX 760's and my current driver is the 353.30 one.

[@lucasfg3]

+wyatt knelson Actually the problem is the new processors, in which SC4 seems not to like (LOL). However, the best thing to do is to force the game to use one core. About the graphics, humm..., you should download the launcher for the game and then try to change the settings until you get a fine display.

[@aggroknight4259]

lucasfg3 I know this comment is a year old, but I'm getting desperate here. Would the buggy relationship between SC4 and the CPU have any effect on gameplay mechanics such as the traffic simulator, by any chance? Every time I install the NAM, my traffic pathfinding starts spazzing, which doesn't happen in vanilla.

[@aggroknight4259]

lucasfg3 I know this comment is a year old, but I'm getting desperate here. Would the buggy relationship between SC4 and the CPU have any effect on gameplay mechanics such as the traffic simulator, by any chance? Every time I install the NAM, my traffic pathfinding starts spazzing, which doesn't happen in vanilla.

[@lucasfg3]

Analytic31 Depends on your configuration. The game is old, it wasn't made for processors with multi cores. Even if you have a Core i7 you will still get trouble. So, try to make the game use only one core: in the icon right-click go to properties, than in the target box, in the end right after the quote mark, put a space and copy this -CPUCount:1. Also, the game consumes too much ram for a 2003 game, specially with mods such as NAM ,CAM and so on. So if you have at least 4gb of ram, you should have no problems.

[@aggroknight4259]

lucasfg3 Would it help if I gave you my specs? This happens on both my desktop, AND laptop, both of which have an AMD CPU.

[@kisakuru5656]

Quite impressing! Which of the three designs at the design stage in the beginning of the video did you finally use? Which where the tax rates that you used? You said you did not use any mod's ... not even NAM? Did you only install the patches?

[@kisakuru5656]

ok, i saw now, you answered everything on reddit ....

[@peterritchie4777]

I would start each city with R9/C9/I10 for tax rates while I build out the dirty industrial to make the cash. I would save up at least 20 million before starting to build the infrastructure. Then once the zones were made, infrastructure built, dirty industrial destroyed, I would keep R9/C9 and put Dirty industrial at 11, Manufacturing at 11, and industrial high tech at 9. After the city reached the right slump, I would decrease the rates to 8 across the board except dirty industrial and manufacturing which I would keep at 11. No NAM. No Add-ons, No mods. From my reddit post: I chose the left design, the cross. It had the least pollution problems, lower cost for education and hospitals (because the res is nearly all clumped in 4 areas) but the worst traffic problems. The center design, the columns, had the most pollution problems, and pretty bad traffic problems, and it was moderately expensive for education/hospitals. The right side design, the scatter, had the best traffic outcome, moderate pollution, but was extremely expensive for education and hospitals since I needed heavy coverage across the entire map. The cross was also the best for putting each city side by side, as the residential zoning from one city could potentially work in any nearby city. It also allowed me to put airports, and waste zoning close together between groups of 4 cities.

[@MrRick1719]

10/10 for good taste in music.

[@FrenzyProject37]

Woah!That's big!I usually don't build this dense i build more eyecandy

[@souravsen5773]

In game the city is OK... But in real life... OMG, I will die.... No plants, no parks, no water bodies, no open space, no natural scenic beauty.. BTW how did you made such a city w/out NAM? well done btw.

[@perfect_insanity]

3 years ago

[@mabamabam]

I dont know if it is possible but can you make your region available to download. I would love to get a better understanding of your planning decisions.

[@mabamabam]

and blow shit up

[@peterritchie4777]

It will be uploaded once I finish all the little fixes I want to do to it, and I am making a tutorial as well. See the following links for tutorials thus far: Mega-City Tutorial Part One: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnqqgWBomrF4ra8 Mega-City Tutorial Part Two: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmLPi5-baryqd6c Mega-City Tutorial Part Three: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZrFZp6Clrmoldk Mega-City Tutorial Part Four: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipSwdap8hciFe68 Mega-City Tutorial Part Five: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3SXcqqKa6lkp6c Part Six is being edited and uploaded tonight, the rest will be over the next week. After that I will finish the region for good. Save it for the last time, and upload it to www.reddit.com/r/simcity4 where you can all destroy it however you wish. Simcity 4 is a game for game lovers, and I want to give you all everything I can to continue sandboxing with it.

[@mabamabam]

Peter Ritchie Thanks. Although I wouldn't say Sim City is for game lovers, I think it is more for accountants, and accountants in spirit. Shit my tax return is late. Ive got to stop fucking around on the computer.

[@mabamabam]

And engineers. There is no one who loves optimisation more than engineers

[@peterritchie4777]

www.reddit.com/r/simcity4/comments/2itf8o/the_perfect_grid_ready_for_download/ Here you go!

[@sternik_karsiborski7655]

Music?

[@SinanZee]

This is the correct music.

[@KiddKoalaz]

I just strictly put 4x4 high density residential. Have neighboring cities strictly for Dirty Industry,Commercial, Residential, or high-tech. Have subways on every other corner and filling that block with parks. All roads are one way and you're good to go :D (If only you used 4x4 for commercial and residential, I bet your region could have seriously reached a higher population.) Good Job on covering the region though! I always wanted to do that but I get so lazy at times haha >0

[@peterritchie4777]

I like the 4x4 blocks, but I find it hard to make them work with the way I usually build out my cities.

[@keldelmini8243]

This would be most wet dream of every mayors in the world.

[@marknilson718]

How did you get a region like that where you have 81 cities and are the max size of a plot of land.

[@wildcard4985]

Hallo Peter, hast Du (oder jemand) eine Ahnung, ob, und wenn ja, wie sich eine Region komplett spielen lässt? Also in einem einzigen Spiel, ohne immer minimum 4x4 (sog. große) Städte aufteilen zu müssen? Von Stadt zu Stadt ständig wechseln und diese noch nicht einmal funktionstechnisch miteinander verbinden zu können, kotzt mich ziemlich an. Da haben die SC4 Entwickler in in meinen Augen einen echt brutalen Denkfehler gemacht.

[@jonas3333]

Nice work! However, wouldn't you be able to push the population even higher by continuing to enter the cities for a while in a rotation? It appears to me, since the game works with regional aspects in mind, that nearby cities affect the population of each other and I do that with my considerably smaller cities to pump up the population from time to time.

[@peterritchie4777]

That's kinda what I did, but stopped after a while because there came a point where it cycled from losing growth and population and then regrowing to around the same number once it hit close to the peak. I think it had to do with the equal number of zones in the tiles, where you evetually only give and take the same amount of jobs to surrounding tiles so it doesn't give any boost after a full grow out.

[@kevinbarton9052]

Now that is what I call Cityzilla, or Metrozilla. I think this is great if you did that in Small Town version and see what is the most populated SimCity 4 Small Town region as a suggestion request.

[@Dmanep18]

+Peter Ritchie. I'll add the nam mod to remove the traffic and the nam mod is good though

[@peterritchie4777]

It has been tried. Installing NAM into a region that has already been made screws up large cities like this. It causes all sorts of glitches, and the first few cities I tried to log into went totally tits-up and I couldn't get them back working again. I should mention I have since installed NAM and have plans on a new project. I had heard of other Simcity 4 players making larger regions than this with a ton of mods and cheats, and I plan on beating them using only NAM and some better planning. I don't want to say too much, but lets just say that it will be... much bigger... I have no timeline on this, it will take me a lot longer than the last one featured in this video.

[@tifforo1]

In the standard regions, it seems like there are three city sizes: small, medium, and large, all square. Am I correct in thinking that this extra-large region contains 81 of the standard "large" square cities?

[@seankurth4371]

+tifforo1 Yes, at least they all look like large tiles to me, and here's how you do it: community.simtropolis.com/omnibus/simcity-4/mapping-and-terraforming/configbmp-how-to-make-it-yours-r76/

[@SUBATOMICRAY]

is ... is that akira soundtrack?

[@americanrick9021]

My game always crashes and I gave up on this version of sim city. I have an 18 core i9-7980xe and my game locks up every time I try to play for more than an hour.........

[@metatechnocrat]

add this to the end of the target location in the icons properties " -CPUCount:1" the game came before multi processors.

[@ChristopherMathieu]

Are you the same guy who made "Magnasanti" in SC3K? That mega-city with 9 million warm bodies?

[@peterritchie4777]

Nope, but I won't lie, that video was part of my motivation, although I think he did a much better job going full OCD on his city. If I were to really do the same I am sure I could squeeze a few more hundred thousand people in. I am happy with what I made though.

[@Sam_S2k]

Now I think! are more people gonna come back to the simcity 4 community?????

[@jamalali5474]

+Car Racer me

[@TheBreezus]

I am but Windows 10 is being bad.

[@gmane6340]

+Breeze Can you play with Windows 10?

[@TheBreezus]

Inspiring Reptile Yeah I was able to get it working in fullscreen on windows 10.

[@Sam_S2k]

Oh that's cool!

[@AndreDiasRJ]

Sao Paulo has 12 million inhabitants and 17000kms of paved roads

[@whaliin]

Is that a Judge Dredd reference I see in the names?

[@No-lk7qm]

fucking love that movie

[@METATRONmusic]

Okay, but where does everyone park?

[@peterritchie4777]

On the streets waiting to get where they are going according to the traffic data

[@WEndro333]

So this is what a dystopian city looks like in SC4.

[@sonnyc3826]

how do you make mega cities like this? i can only make a city one tile big

[@splashimi]

Impressive work. What's even more amazing is how you got the whole region to run so smoothly. My modern system chugs after filling up one large tile. Simcity 4 wasn't designed to run on multi-core machines, after all. What's your secret?

[@peterritchie4777]

In development I put the game on it's lowest settings. I do all the building of infrastructure/zoning on pause, and when I allow it to build out between stages of development I put it on map/zone view and it runs as if I only have a small village in play. There are about 10 stages of development in total that have cues that tell me what to do next. For instance, after any of my cities hit about 300,000 population, I begin to build the hydrogen plants, and begin to raise health and education funding. At about 700,000 or at the first major slump in demand, I put the tax rates to 8% (down 1% each) and it gives the whole city a compounded boost that lasts for a few years.

[@hyssop8974]

Nice! Akira soundtrack!

[@michy0323]

Hi bro, I know it's been 6 years since you published the video but I would like to know if you could enable the map and the region to download it if it is still possible thanks and greetings

[@peterritchie4777]

drive.google.com/drive/folders/1S0YJl7gNv9hmOAbMVyynVgE8ondZVdv2?usp=sharing This link should work, It's open for sharing

[@deboest]

How did u get the larger formatted city on your region. I play thru my Mac via the app.

[@Tezunegari]

How did you get the city areas big enough? They have to be 768x768 tiles to contain your city blocks from the design stage. SC4 only supports 64x64, 128x128 and 256x256 city areas... as far as I know at least.

[@peterritchie4777]

They are all Large City Tiles, the 256x256 sized ones. The design stage is slightly confusing to many people because of the way I used multiple levels of blocks within blocks. The best description I have made is in this post on Reddit: imgur.com/a/lLx91 In the design stage, I was using "transit blocks" as I decided to call them (since they are the foundation for the subway lines) which are 20 tiles by 20 tiles. There were 144 of these transit blocks in each city. The smaller blocks, as seen in the video, I called Sub-Blocks, 9 of which make up a transit block. 9 Transit blocks together make up a mega-block, which are separated by avenues.

[@KiyaWarrior]

Any chance you'd upload this region file or somehow share this?

[@victorrotciv8859]

Is it 36 km X 36 km size of city territory ?

[@Arisbe_obasmoqweef]

How do you get all Large city tiles??? I need that!

[@dnissen2012]

So, I had actually thought about taking 6+ months working on SC4 (Rush Hour as well) in a 100x100 mile space. How big is this?

[@peterritchie4777]

+dnissen2012 This region is 36km X 36km. Roughly 22 miles X 22 miles. I had some trouble the first time I tried to make a region too much larger because the save file becomes absolutely huge and it was one of the first times I saw the game crash without mods added in. It is possible... but I would say go easy with it and test it before going in.

[@STLCODPS3123]

Dude this is super awesome, but no highways? Really?

[@peterritchie4777]

I tried in some of the earlier stages, but highways reduced the population per tile and didn't really help traffic overall.

[@wonderpezi]

dude that's insane! :D well done though! :D

[@CheeseHovel]

Would loved it if you made a video talking about the design, the challenges, what was fun what was tedious and so on :)

[@peterritchie4777]

In progress! I have a few videos/tutorials planned from the vast amount of questions (I realize now I left out a lot of detail I found tedious because I had become so accustomed to the region). Probably will start uploading in a few more days!

[@peterritchie4777]

How to Build a Mega City Part One: "Dirty Money" Here is the tutorial on how to make the mega-city. There are 8 other parts uploaded as well!

[@WhiteSlift]

I was wondering if the energy consumption is correct? You have about 100 million inhabitants and you said you have about 324 hydrogen power plants, so is the energy consumption of those 100 million people about the same as, say, the energy consumption of Germany (~80 million people) ?

[@peterritchie4777]

WhiteSlift I like questions that I don't know the answer to. So here's what I found: Germany has a per capita energy usage rate of around 7,000 kwh, multiplied by 82 million people is 574,000,000,000 kwh (574 billion kilo watt hours). Now, the Simcity 4 Hydrogen power plant is supposed to produce 16,000 mwh (mega-watt hours) per month. I'll be honest the 324 number was based on the average city I made times 81 tiles in the region, so it could be more or less by a bit, but 324 times 16,000 mwh is 5,184,000 mwh per month. Now, the problem I had here is I am not sure how compatible the numbers are for a comparison. Do we just take the 574 billion kilo watt hours and adjust the zeros to 574 million mega-watt hours? If so, the scale doesn't match up at all. 574 million mega watt hours and 5 million mega watt hours is a big difference when the population difference is the opposite (82 million people vs 107 million people).

[@WhiteSlift]

Peter Ritchie Very interesting research. Thanks!

[@valhar2000]

+Peter Ritchie I think you are comparing the yearly energy use of Germany with the monthly use of energy in your region. Though it's still a lot more. According to my calculations, 324 power plants would support 8 million Germans, so it seems that sims are a lot more energy efficient that Germans.

[@peterritchie4777]

+Lorenzo Benito Yeah, the numbers don't compare easily because the game doesn't measure power the same way we do in real life, they just use broad numbers. You might be right, but since the game doesn't actually say the timeframe of energy use besides KWH, so I had to just assume.

[@RetroAmateur1989]

please EA tell us how the new simcity is a step forward

[@GeorgeBaily]

Just like Shenzhen, including the roads that don't connect and just bulldoze and remake...

[@My_Names_Not_Nigel]

Did you ever upload the region anywhere?

[@Spudtron98]

For some reason I saw the name "Megacity One" coming from a mile off.

[@RandallLind]

How many cities are in the region? I made one with 12 large ones. I am still laying out stuff if I ever get done with all 12 I will turn it on.

[@Secretsofsociety]

Nice Akira remix for this dystopian megacity.

[@cellblocknine5385]

I hated that the terrains were so small in the new Sim City

[@peterritchie4777]

Yeah, I gave it a shot but was disappointed.

[@Fierce0Deity0Link]

I'm an avid Simcity 4 player and more and more people are trying to get me to switch to Cities:Skyline. What are you opinions on that game?

[@peterritchie4777]

I've been busy and haven't bought it yet, but it looks good thus far from the bits and pieces I have seen. The second I get time away from family and work I am going to sit myself down for a night and test it out for myself!

[@cowlinator]

Peter Ritchie So, how was it?

[@Cullvion]

Fierce0Deity0Link As an owner of the game, it is amazing! It supports mods and user created content so you can create vast cities with lots of diversity, but you should look at it yourself before buying it.

[@paxhumana2015]

+Cullvion , I prefer SimCity 2000 myself. Now if some of the better features of the SimCity 3000 and SimCity 4 games were implemented into an updated version of SimCity 2000, including more disasters, then you would have the penultimate SimCity game. Also, Will Wright is wrong about not including religion and morals into his games because, like it or not, they DO, in fact, control how everything from laws to buildings, cultural events, and city aesthetics are made.

[@trioultimo]

+Fierce0Deity0Link Cities Skylines is actually Cities Decorator ;] with some cool traffic features.

[@darmug]

AmbiguousAmphibian made me aware of this project.

[@jeanchristopheourson8819]

Nice job! Still here, working on a different level ;)

[@neptronix]

Mind blowing!!! thanks for the vid!

[@JoshuaSzanto]

How much money did it cost to build all of that? I bet if this were real daytime temperatures would be virtually unlivable due to the extreme increase of surface area for the sun to warm.. I wonder what winter would be like. Plus what about all the sewer systems? Where does that and trash wastes go??? No highways? :( Although, even with highways traffic would be a nightmare. It would be interesting if one could regulate the number of cars on the road to encourage bicycles, subway (underground), monorail (above ground), and walking. Perhaps if there were a city like this maybe the overall concept of city building would be radically different -- perhaps there would be 4-person pod monorails that connect to every building. Then there is also underground cities; living spaces built for many floors below ground level. In fact, what if living spaces all existed below ground? The only thing about that is people would become depressed not seeing daylight ... well perhaps the scheduling and workflow of "work" in itself would be quite different compared to today's world. Perhaps there would be a mandatory leave of longer vacations, or shorter work days, or shorter work weeks; it might be a combination of both shorter work days and shorter work weeks allowing more time for people to go out and enjoy the sunshine. ha, then again, how would you enjoy the sunshine in a city such as this? I think people would hate to live in such a city.

[@BenMcIlwain]

What the heck are you talking about? There's no added surface area to warm. The solar flux is 1,000 Watts/m^2 anywhere on Earth (adjusted for latitude and season, of course). It doesn't matter if you're in a field somewhere or in the middle of a dense city. It might be several degrees warmer because of the urban heat island effect (essentially, all of the waste heat created in a city warms it up), but that has nothing to do with the Sun and everything to do with human industry.

[@GTAIVman]

Ben McIlwain That's what he means.

[@peterritchie4777]

In game cash: It cost around $15 million dollars for infrastructure, another 2 million for infrastructure that was designed to be added after each city was above 500,000 residents. Then every 5 in game years I had to destroy each power plant, water pump, and waste to energy plant (around $600,000 each time) and rebuild them to keep everything working smoothly. That's not including additional municipal buildings, stadiums, zoos, and whatnot. Highways were not cost or space effective. There is one city in the grid with a quad highway setup with 4 major interchanges, but the space they took up did not make up for the slight benefit in traffic. The highways simply got congested the second I built them in that city, and it was one of the smallest cities at full buildout at around 1.2 million residents. The space the interchanges took up caused me to further congest the rest of the city to fit more people in, causing even more traffic problems around those areas.

[@mysoupistoohot]

you dont get out much, huh?

[@peterritchie4777]

This is what I would play for 30 minutes to an hour at night after the wife/kid went to sleep. Or on rainy days. I would say I game less than most people, but when I do, I do it right.

[@techme061]

great city! Any chance i can download it and play with your build?

[@peterritchie4777]

Give me a bit to try to find the old saves of it, I had them shared to a website at one point.

[@techme061]

@@peterritchie4777 that'll be great!

[@StanislawNiemyjski]

​@@peterritchie4777no way you actually still respond, what a madman

[@peterritchie4777]

@@StanislawNiemyjski I've been toying with ideas on making a new video with a ... cough ... bigger region, so I still watch these old ones to try to motivate me. My biggest problem is that I wanted to go big and do it 10 times larger, but I realized it was going to take about 15-20 years to actually do it, so I'm questioning methods of light cheating to actually accomplish it.

[@Donkumbia94]

How did you solve the unemployment issue, you know, when a briefcase icon appears above your residential zones? You see, I have 3 cities which have around 120-150k inhabitants and each of them has around 250k-300k job positions, but I'm still getting that icon and whenever I click on those buildings it says "travel time to work: long" or something like that.

[@peterritchie4777]

One thing that holds true in simcity 4 is the RCI 1:1:1 formula. Especially if you are running the game in vanilla like I do, the sims do not want to travel far for jobs, so it's good to keep it all in the city. try balancing your city out to have equal parts residential zoning, commercial zoning, and industrial zoning. For instance, if you plan on having 100 tiles of residential zoning, put 100 tiles commerical, and 100 tiles of industrial close by. If you have a bit of cash saved up, put dirty industrial and manufacturing on the backburner by upping their tax rates by 3 or 4 % above everything else.

[@adjitka]

how much do you make in taxxes & is your save file posted anywhere so we can d/l and play with it?

[@peterritchie4777]

There are 81 individual cities in the region, I made sure each one is in the black fiscally before calling the region finished. Some have a surplus of $4,000 per month, and a savings of $10 million; Others are doing much better with $50,000 surplus per month and $400 million in savings. The actual tax income before adding in expenses is always above $300,000 per month. I think the largest and most wealthy city in the region has an income of $405,000, and a surplus of $30,000 for each budget. I was going to put the game up for download right away, but hearing a bit of nitpicking from people on other sites has me wanting to fix up a few minor details before giving it away. I will probably post it to www.reddit.com/r/simcity4 when I do finally get it all uploaded if you are interested.

[@adjitka]

Peter Ritchie Sweet. Amazing work, and thanks for the prompt and erudite reply.

[@TheAgerix]

Peter Ritchie So if I understand you grow your cities and when you have enought monye you destroyed and build another one ?

[@peterritchie4777]

***** Yep. I do it the hard way. I build an industrial mecca and save up at least 20 million dollars before I start building the real infrastructure. I have tried a slow conversion from the dirty industrial to the real city but it ends up actually costing much more than simply destroying it and rebuilding during a pause.

[@TheAgerix]

Peter Ritchie ok I understand. In fact I was wrong to continue in the same town and try to get more and more people. And keep the problems of pollution, streets too thin, and so. I will try your way, thx for helping ;)

[@Irishbloke]

This would be the first city where planes are public transport

[@tirolocomcleod]

Bought the game two years and I can only get about 700k people. Would you please send me a link on how you built your cities?. I refuse to use mods and I always seem to have trouble with pollution, the sims jobs (Even if its right next door, they say its too far).

[@peterritchie4777]

I also refuse to Mod (except expanding the size of the region). Build a dirty city first. Build the cheapest power, basic requirements, and lots of dirty industry, and then build a residential neighborhood a drivable distance away. Tuck a tiny bit of commercial in there and try to get a good revenue stream. After you get the money coming in from the dirty industry, then start cleaning stuff up, and building outwards more.

[@TheSpogNYC]

Why do you refuse to mod?

[@Dlf212]

What are your system specs, how long does it take to load your region, and any of the cities?

[@sunyboy333]

I noticed you have waste to power plants even though you have high tech energy unlocked. Does that mean there's no better way to solve the waste problem?

[@peterritchie4777]

sunyboy333 It is the best way, and in general it really does help with power as well. I always keep at least 4 tiles of landfill around so I can see visually if I forgot to rebuild the W2E when they start to deteriorate. With mods there are other ways, but with the vanilla game W2E is the way to go, and it doesn't pollute too much if you keep them in a corner.