Similarities Between Kurdish and Luri (Bakhtiari dialect)

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Bahador Alast

Bahador Alast

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@BahadorAlast
@BahadorAlast Жыл бұрын
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@arexta153
@arexta153 Жыл бұрын
really was a great session
@tannazmehrdadi8774
@tannazmehrdadi8774 Жыл бұрын
Loved this a lot ❤ You should do a video with different Persian dialects of southern and western Iran.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect. “Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi. Luri (Northern Luri: لری, Southern Luri: لری) is a Southwestern Iranian language continuum spoken by the Lur people, an Iranian people native to Western Asia. The Luri dialects are descended from Middle Persian and are Central Luri, Bakhtiari,[3][5] and Southern Luri.[3][5] “
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@tannazmehrdadi8774luri is a Persian dialect not kurdish
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Can you do new Persian and Luri comparison? It be interesting since both are descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@ST-4995
@ST-4995 Жыл бұрын
Kurds and lurs is same, I dont know why they split in two, I think it is because of other groups dont want kurds be together
@johnnykevin-b6z
@johnnykevin-b6z Жыл бұрын
It was the persian shah who Split lur from kurdish people . The shah of persia even tried to make Kurdish people as subgroup of persian Nation . But lur are kurds . Even the Arab Scholars Had written in their books That Lurs are Kurdish people Like Sorani , Bahdini and Kurmanci
@Lesanolghayb
@Lesanolghayb 9 ай бұрын
من لر بختیاری هستم درخانه وشهرمان همه لری صحبت میکنیم ولی فارسی را زبان اول خودمان میدانیم واجدادمان علاوه بر محفل قرآنی شاهنامه خوانی هفتگی در منازل خود داشتند عشقمان همیشه ایران است قبلاً این را همیشه میگویم ما لرل ایدونیم هیجا سیمون می ایران نیابو ایران دی و.بومونه موقی که تیه لمونه واز کردیم خومونه من ایران دیدیم تیه لمونه بی خه کش سیرمه اینیم
@halokurdstan-zf7tg
@halokurdstan-zf7tg 9 ай бұрын
Yes, Persians (modern day Iranians) have done this to assimilate and minimize the Kurds, otherwise 100 years ago no Luri would have lost his original identity as a Kurd.
@user-ra2jy
@user-ra2jy 8 ай бұрын
​@@Lesanolghayb دو نکته را فراموش نکن ۱- بحثهای علمی و تاریخی و هویتی منافی ایرانی بودن نیست ۲- اینکه ما فارسی صحبت می کنیم ناشی از تغییراتی هست که ۱۰۰ پیش شروع شد و شاهنامه خوانی هم از همان ۱۵۰ سال پیش با حضور دراویش و مقاله خوانها و خوانین دورکی در دوره قاجار رواج یافت
@Random_Evolution
@Random_Evolution 8 ай бұрын
@@johnnykevin-b6z Not just Lurs and Kurds are similar, but also Persian is the same, these languages are all were only one language before the Arab (Muslim) invasion the homeland. If you try to learn Persian you definitely will figure it out. I am a Kurd and do speak Persian too.
@partizanooo
@partizanooo 4 ай бұрын
As a Kurdish person from Afrin... I speak Kurmanji... and I can understand Sorani and Luri 100%... I learned Sorani from my six-month stay in Bashure Kurdistan... I learned Luri from Mohsen Lorestani's songs and some other songs hhhhhh
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
I am Bakhtiyari Lur and Kurds are our brothers. We used to be 1 people 1,000 years ago but split into Lurs and Kurds a long time ago. Still retain similar ways of life, warrior culture, language as you can see!
@myigitdurna
@myigitdurna Жыл бұрын
All right
@yosufosman267
@yosufosman267 Жыл бұрын
Ez ji Sûriyê, ji bajarê Efrînê me, kurd im, haitî me, min hemû gotinên wî fêm kir, ferqa di navbera zaravayan de hindik e, spas xwişk û birayên min.
@burhankayhan1217
@burhankayhan1217 Жыл бұрын
Yes 😍🦁🦅
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Goh nagou madar jendeh, us lurs are descendant of Persians not kirds and kirds cant understand us. Kirds dont even have one language but 8.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Us lurs speak a middle Persian dialect not kirdish nor re we the same people.
@bahaamin8950
@bahaamin8950 Жыл бұрын
Realy great job Bahador, it was a pleasure to be part of the video
@NafeesBaloch-kt8vm
@NafeesBaloch-kt8vm 7 ай бұрын
I am Baloch from Pakistan. Lor is Kurd. Kurdish Baloch talysh manzandrani gilaki is one Nation alhamdulillah ❤
@K55365
@K55365 6 ай бұрын
Yes and that nation is called Iran.
@6ix9inetechashy
@6ix9inetechashy 5 ай бұрын
Please stop this stupid stuff we baloch are baloch not anything else.
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
Say b*ullsh*it about yours, don't talk about us, we lurs are independent ethnic
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
@@K55365 we lurs are proudly Iranian
@K55365
@K55365 5 ай бұрын
@@mirnowruz midunam azizam
@tuncaybal764
@tuncaybal764 10 ай бұрын
In kurdish "Da" for Mother means "given" actually mother in old kurdish is "mada" or "madayê" it means translatet "who gived me" like the person who gived me life. later it become just "Dê" in some areas they say "dayê" withouth the "Ma" in some arabizated kurdish forms they say ya-dê
@Lesanolghayb
@Lesanolghayb 9 ай бұрын
در زبان لری کهکیکویه وشمال فارس و شمال بوشهر وشمال وجنوب خوزستان به مادر دی.day دا da دایه daye می گویند
@nameistverborgen
@nameistverborgen 9 ай бұрын
Xwe- da ...xwe (self)
@BM-wo6wf
@BM-wo6wf 16 күн бұрын
Interesting anecdote.
@Nizamuddin-vi7ip
@Nizamuddin-vi7ip Жыл бұрын
This is amazing to watch there are so many words are like in balochi like sohr,amsaya,nehli,rang,speh,merd,and many more words similar we use in Balochistan ❤
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 2 ай бұрын
@@Nizamuddin-vi7ip us lurs speak middle Persian dialect yes
@collectivelove2275
@collectivelove2275 Жыл бұрын
Wow! There's always something new. Very educational. Thanks everyone.
@manipirooz5806
@manipirooz5806 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Enjoyed every moment of this! Everyone did such a great job. What a wonderful way to highlight Bakhtiari and connect. Much love and respect for the Kurds and Lurs!
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Lurs are Persians and our language descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi
@Sanandaj196
@Sanandaj196 Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRPso what are trying to say or tell us ??? Please explain more
@hamidhp1373hp
@hamidhp1373hp Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRP we are Lurs and our language is Luri
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
@@hamidhp1373hp Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
@lavieenconfinement3511
@lavieenconfinement3511 Жыл бұрын
@@IranLurwe are same people, call us kurd, lur, mede, zagroasian whatever. But we are really same , language, culture, history, traditions, food so much big connections.
@minamii20
@minamii20 Жыл бұрын
As a Bakhtiari Lur I really loved the video and I was actually waiting for it. I also loved the two Bakhtiari guys especially Ali who was really quick to understand all the words. Thank you guys ❤️✌🏽
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@Shahpoorsasani6798
@Shahpoorsasani6798 Жыл бұрын
کورو ته چی گی سی خوت
@Shahpoorsasani6798
@Shahpoorsasani6798 Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRPفارسی پهلوی در اصل کردی اورامی هست تحقیق کن
@minamii20
@minamii20 Жыл бұрын
@@Shahpoorsasani6798 خفه شو گی مفت نخه لیوه پنگه ای
@kurdistanfedaisi
@kurdistanfedaisi Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRP😂😂
@hosseinshahni
@hosseinshahni Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much guys (specially you dear Bahador) for the amazing content. I speak both Bakhtiari Luri and Persian. One of the things I found interesting is that although I was born in Masjed Soleyman, my pronunciations are actually way closer to Koorosh compared to Ali (a fellow Masjed Soleymani). The other thing I wanted to mention is that Ali’s view on the whole transition between different Iranic languages is something I’ve always believed in, maybe it’s a bit more clear for someone who speaks a language not belonging to the extreme ends of the spectrum, but somewhere in the middle. I (in my humble opinion) believe Luri speakers for example, can easily see the high level of similarity between Persian and Sorani Kurdish since their language is close to both, something the speakers of either of the respective languages may have a harder time realizing themselves. One last thing I would like to mention is that we oftentimes forget the existence of different dialects and accents when it comes to Persian, since the language has a widely influential standardized form. But since I was born in the province of Khuzestan, I know many of the words mentioned here also exist in Khuzestani Persian (or are at least known by Khuzestani Persian speakers). Likewise the people of Bushehr, Fars, Hormozgan, Kerman, etc., are also familiar with these words to varying degrees. If we also bring these less thought of dialects and accents into consideration, we can easily spot the smooth transition from one end of the spectrum to the other. The Iranic connection is super strong.
@lidiacikoskova3419
@lidiacikoskova3419 Жыл бұрын
@hosseinshahni For me, as a native Slovak speakor, can you afford to me tips to learn Persian language?
@kaywann
@kaywann Жыл бұрын
Because lurs dialects are not dependent on what city they are from it is dependent on what, tribe and clan they belong to.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@samb1027
@samb1027 Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRPstop trying to persianize everyting
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@samb1027 says the kird lol. None wants to be a kird.
@Simsrockslol
@Simsrockslol Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Bahador. I have been waiting for a Bakhtiari video!
@johnnykevin-b6z
@johnnykevin-b6z Жыл бұрын
Lur are Kurdish people . Persian Shah tried to split Iranic people and make them to persian . It was the Shah of Persia who split Lur from Kurdish identity
@K55365
@K55365 6 ай бұрын
😂 100% nonsense, Pahlavi wasn't even Persian, he was Mazandarani and Azeri.
@jackjackson39
@jackjackson39 5 ай бұрын
True
@Diyako-ci2pb
@Diyako-ci2pb 5 ай бұрын
Siz farslar niye Kürt düşmanlığı yapıyorsunuz ulan sizi kurtaran Med Kürt imparatorluğu idi ki Pers tarihçi Firdevsi nin şahnamesini oku orada Firdevsi aynen böyle söylüyor biz Persler dili ve kültürü olduğu gibi Med Kürt imparatorluğun dan aldık anladın mı
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
Nonsense idi*ot, we were never kurd as much as hilarious this bullsh*it is for us
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Lurs are Persian who literally speak a middle Persian dialect. Kird joukis cant even understand us
@mohamadkalare9162
@mohamadkalare9162 Жыл бұрын
Lori understands South Kurdish, they can talk to each other,Some historians such as Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, Ibn Hawqal and many other Arab historians consider Lore to be Kurdish, but some do not But there is very strong evidence that he is a Kurd
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
No, they can't
@muzaffarhaider5764
@muzaffarhaider5764 Жыл бұрын
They're Shi'a
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
@@muzaffarhaider5764 OK, so what? Still kurds, not Iranians
@kaywann
@kaywann Жыл бұрын
@@MindSeeker2341actually its true. Lurs understand south kurdish extremly easily
@muzaffarhaider5764
@muzaffarhaider5764 Жыл бұрын
@@MindSeeker2341 I didn't say Irani. I said Shi'a. I'm not Irani but I'm proud Shi'a.
@notsouren
@notsouren Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! as a Bakhtiari I loved this a lot! If you were looking for a Khuzestani volunteer I'll be definitely there!
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is descendant of Persian Pahlavi.
@KurdeQonya
@KurdeQonya Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRPhehe really? Hahahaha look dna and history who lurs are :) and look at pahlavi language you will understand what it is and what it was… analyze the 7 great houses of parthians whos state language officially was pahlavi you will understand that lors never existed they were and are just a part of great kurdish tribe GORAN… iranian state is just lying on your identity cause they need you trolls against kurdish history… nobody interests who lors are only iranian state :)
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
@Servantofkhuzestan
@Servantofkhuzestan Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRPluri is a changed language influenced by Persian in the region khuzi language was once talked
@jw.06n
@jw.06n Жыл бұрын
@@IranLur So are lurs Kurds or no they're not?
@halokurdstan-zf7tg
@halokurdstan-zf7tg 9 ай бұрын
Lur and Bakhtyari, like Sorani, Kalhuri, and Kermanji, constitute the Kurds, and it is a mistake to consider them separately. The Lurs and the Bakhtyaris are the original tribes of the Kurdish nation and are similar to the rest of the Kurds in all respects.
@bardia1364
@bardia1364 6 ай бұрын
We are extremely Iranian
@halokurdstan-zf7tg
@halokurdstan-zf7tg 6 ай бұрын
@@bardia1364 You are so stupid, that you speak for us. What is 90-year-old Iran that should be compared with the thousands of years of history of the Kurds and attributed to them? At all, the very same shoe(Kiłaş) of our feet (Kurd shoes) is many times older than the fake history of your fake Iran. fuck the iran
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
Come Iran and see😂, it's a mother fu**king joke for us to be kurd, we are lur an independent ethnic from you idio*t
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Lurs and bakhtiaris are Persians and we speak middle Persian dialect not kirds
@Golwani25
@Golwani25 Күн бұрын
@@Kurdish20226you are poorsian 😂😂😂we have Luri Kurds in the Kurdish region of Iraq and they still call themselves descendants of Kurds and palawi/southern Kurds so stay mad poorsian lol 😂
@zehra_korkmaz
@zehra_korkmaz Жыл бұрын
It was so beautiful to be part of this video. Thank you Bahador.
@user-zh7yr1up8g
@user-zh7yr1up8g Жыл бұрын
You have done a superb job Zehra 👏🏻👏🏻
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Dest û Dengê te xweş Xwşkê Zehra Bijî Kurd û Kurdistan 💚☀️❤️☝🏻
@IJayReaction
@IJayReaction Жыл бұрын
Her bijî xwuska delal!
@omid706
@omid706 Жыл бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼
@tannazmehrdadi8774
@tannazmehrdadi8774 Жыл бұрын
Great job Zehra jan 🤗🤗❤
@yareman5596
@yareman5596 Жыл бұрын
In Urdu we also use the word merd (مرد) for husband and male both . 2) we also dargah (درگاہ) 3)We also use the word درخت for tree 4) we also use Dadi for grandmother دادی 5) we also said surkh سورخ for red colour We also said رنگ for colour We also said hamsaya or ہمسایہ for neighbours We use sar سر for head in Urdu Dude many similarities with Urdu
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 Жыл бұрын
yes, Urdu is the persianised register of Hindustani, which basically mean's it's adapted much vocab from persian. But particularly in mofre formal speech.
@yareman5596
@yareman5596 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 lol 😂😁😁😁 urdu word originate from the Turkish word Ordo which mean army ) in Urdu we said lashkari zuban means mixture of different languages like Persian has huge influence I think 50 urdu is made of Persian and even urdu language, Arabic and Turkish even some word of Uzbek script is different from Hindi language . Secondly Hindi language influence by Urdu language not Urdu influence by Hindi both languages script is completely different. In old or ancient India or Indian speak Sanskrit which even now at that widely speaking in India in political leaders speak Sanskrit their hindu religious figures or monks speak Sanskrit and in school or educational institution they Sanskrit is mandatory which you called Hindi/ Sanskrit and Sanskrit is influenced by URDU language after Muslims dynasty Muslims dynasty comes .
@kefkahkefkah
@kefkahkefkah Жыл бұрын
@@yareman5596 Ordo means camp, as in camping, encampment, and not army. It is intruduced to urdu from persian, as all other words with arabic or turkish origini. Ordo is mongolian origin.. Rekhta is the origin of Urdu and that means mixed, Lashkari zaban means the language of the army.
@yareman5596
@yareman5596 Жыл бұрын
@@kefkahkefkah sorry 😁😂😂😂 Ordo use for army or camps Urdu word originate from the Turkish word and ancient name of urdu was rekhta which is also a Persian by Ustad Ibrahim zouq was popular identity of that who alot on this The ریختہ has a big history but you no knowledge obviously this is my national our primary education start in so we study from the start . But there is no connection between khadi or bethi boli 😂😁😁. Lashkari or لشکری is urdu or Persian common use in ancient time for qabilas or groups that why urdu called as lashkari because urdu language made up of Lashkar of language means made of different languages like Arabic and Persian and Uzbek and Turkish.
@kefkahkefkah
@kefkahkefkah Жыл бұрын
@@yareman5596 I speak both urdu and farsi, i have lived over ten years in karachi lyhari, so i do indeed have knowledge. The turkish words in Urdu is minimal, all uzbeks and turks used persian to communicate in Historic India, and like all arabic words in urdu the turkish words have entered through farsi. Ordo the word is the oriigin for the english word Horde, and its mongolian in origin.
@yagmuralksal4762
@yagmuralksal4762 Жыл бұрын
Great synergy, I loved how each participant would refrain from interrupting the others in spite of his/her own excitement. And Zehra, special thanks to you from a compatriot of yours, all the best guys :)
@rafalkaminski6389
@rafalkaminski6389 Жыл бұрын
Id like to see more videos about comparisons within iranian group of languages.
@ahmedsuramairi4516
@ahmedsuramairi4516 4 ай бұрын
My mother language is Kelhuri Kurdish. I am Sorani Kurdish Teacher. I also know Farsi, English, Arabic and German. I understand Badini Kurmanji
@tton2335
@tton2335 Жыл бұрын
As an Afghan I understand everything
@matrixxx3662
@matrixxx3662 11 ай бұрын
You understand Farsi not Kurdish
@Par100milyon
@Par100milyon 10 ай бұрын
لری بختیاری زبان اولیه ما ایرانیان در زمان هخامنشیان بود و هنوز در مرکز و بویژه در غرب و جنوب غربی ایران با لهجه های مختلف رواج دارد. بسیار به فارسی پهلوی و اوستایی نزدیک است.
@user-ra2jy
@user-ra2jy 8 ай бұрын
​@@Par100milyon دلیلی برای گفته هایتان وجود ندارد، اینها رواج تبلیغات هویت سازی هست. تمام زبانهای موجود در ایران کلماتی نزدیک به زبانهای قدیمی ایران دارند
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Of course cause afghans speak Farsi and us Lurs speak a Persian dialect stemming from Pahlavi Parsig
@delansadiq1551
@delansadiq1551 2 ай бұрын
@@Kurdish20226firstly go clean your farsi from Arabic and French words 😂😂😂then lecture on pure Aryan languages
@dastanparviz9613
@dastanparviz9613 7 күн бұрын
In Tajik language, for face we also say "Rû". When we want to say beautiful, we say alway "Xušrû", for ugly "badrû". And for night, we also say "šaw".
@fatih24681012141618
@fatih24681012141618 Жыл бұрын
Lurs are Kurdish as written in Kurdish literature. Those lingual differences would disappear in a statehood. Thanks for such a well done video!
@aone5787
@aone5787 Жыл бұрын
Lors are not Kurds, but we are related like all Iranians
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Lor are Kurds and Kurds are Lor💚☀️❤️
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv Жыл бұрын
Lur is lur.
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Yes in your Dream
@hamidhp1373hp
@hamidhp1373hp Жыл бұрын
😂😂 lier and poor people. #kords
@hunarhussen3299
@hunarhussen3299 Жыл бұрын
She is very smart even krmanj is far from bakhtyari region she open all codes sorani like a bridge between krmanji and luri
@ghassanm6640
@ghassanm6640 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the show brother❤❤❤❤
@mh7135
@mh7135 Жыл бұрын
In farsi also say: Dar o derakht (tree) and Ru be ru (face to face)
@sjskdjsjkdksj2913
@sjskdjsjkdksj2913 Жыл бұрын
5 intellectual people in one video. It was amazing! Thank you again for your excellent contents Bahador!
@element4element4
@element4element4 5 күн бұрын
Regarding the feyli discussion, I have a few quick comments. (I am a feyli kurdish speaker). There are two different groups of people called feyli, that are often confused with each other. (1) One is a feyli luri tribe speaking a dialect of northern luri. (2) Feyli kurds, which are the southern kurdish speakers in Ilam province (and now also used for same dialects in Iraq). The reason these groups have the same name is historical. The feyli lurs used to rule what was called "Lesser Luristan" which is today's Ilam and Lorestan provinces combined. Ilam (poshte kuh) has majority kurdish speakers (with luri, laki and arab minorities) while lorestan (pishe kuh) has mix of luri and laki speakers. Due to prestige of the time, whenever kurdish speakers travelled to Iraq (often to Baghdad for work), they used to say they are feyli (as the feyli lurs were their rulers in those times). The name ended up getting stuck for long historical reasons. Feyli kurds speak a dialect of Kurdish that is more or less indistinguishable from the dialects spoken in Kermanshah, like Kalhori. While people in Kermanshah would not call themselves Feyli, because they didn't have the same history with feyli lurs as in Ilam. Online sources, like wikipedia, often confuse these groups. But academic literature from local universities, like Ilam, write about this very clearly. It gets very tiring to see uninformed online debates between lori and kurdish nationalist types about whether feylis are lurs or kurds, while they speak of two different groups. (A pet peeve of mine)
@hassanalast6670
@hassanalast6670 Жыл бұрын
Good to know about similarities between Kurdish and Luri
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect, it has bery little in common with kurdish, which itself is made up of 8 languages.
@Kurdi8707
@Kurdi8707 10 ай бұрын
Lur is one of Kurdish dialect and has nothing with Persian so stop lying to yourself
@RJ.83
@RJ.83 9 күн бұрын
Kurds and Luri are the same people but Persians trying to split them to two different ethnics so they can divide and control them easy
@nargesss123
@nargesss123 Күн бұрын
This is a misconception. In Iran, Persians do not have more power than others. But the truth is that Lor, Kurd, Fars, Baloch, etc. are all Iranians, and that's why they are very similar in language and culture. If you know the Lors as Kurdish, then you should also know the rest of the tribes like Fars, Baluch, Talash, etc., but this is wrong. Each ethnic group has its own independent identity, but they are all Iranian and are very similar
@nargesss123
@nargesss123 Күн бұрын
The Lors are much more similar to the Persians, but they are free in Iran to consider themselves independent, but you Iraqi Kurds still insist on calling them Kurds despite the opposition of the Lors. And while the Lors insult you, you blame it on the Persians, which is very funny. You should know that the Lors love Iran and are aware of your intention to divide Iran, that is why they insult foreign Kurds.
@nargesss123
@nargesss123 Күн бұрын
Your behavior, Kurds, is very strange because I see that you like each and every Iranian ethnic group, such as Lor, Lak, Baluch, Kermani, Gilak, etc., and you are aware of your cultural and linguistic similarities with these ethnic groups. But still you insult Iran. Iran is not just for Persians. When you disrespect Iran, you are actually insulting all these ethnic groups. You have very little information about the word Iran and you think that this is a new name, but this name is thousands of years old and does not only relate to Persians. It is a geographical name and includes all Iranian ethnic groups
@nargesss123
@nargesss123 Күн бұрын
Even in all scientific articles, the Kurdish language is called an Iranic language and the Kurds are considered Iranic. The whole world accepts this except for Kurds outside Iran, and this is really strange.
@sorena7113
@sorena7113 12 сағат бұрын
No dear friend, we Bakhtiaris are one of the main Persian tribes
@OnlineKurdish
@OnlineKurdish 9 ай бұрын
Dank u wel Zor Spas Thank you ❤❤
@shid.parchami2157
@shid.parchami2157 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, wonderful conversation.
@arexta153
@arexta153 Жыл бұрын
Astounding and unbelievable notification to receive. 👏🏻👌👌
@meranna
@meranna 6 ай бұрын
Impressive how Baha speaks 6 languages pretty effortlessly!!! Good job everyone!
@IJayReaction
@IJayReaction Жыл бұрын
Kudos to all of you! Bahador thank you for creating this lovely content.😍🥇👑❤️
@Kurdedunaysiri
@Kurdedunaysiri Жыл бұрын
Spas Zehra ji bo nûnertiya te ya biserketî ji bo bakurê Kurdistanê. Her hebe ! Zimanê me hebûna me ye û em ê hebin heta heye.
@zehra_korkmaz
@zehra_korkmaz Жыл бұрын
Spasxweş heval, û ez jî spas dikim bo peyvên te yên xweş :)
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@zehra_korkmazdont kurds soeak 7 different separate languages? How is kurdish one language when theyre unintelligible?
@Prime_Nemesis_Autobots_Optimus
@Prime_Nemesis_Autobots_Optimus Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRPstop spamming turk🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃 go to Mongolia
@teknul89
@teknul89 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@KoroushRPthey are not unintelligent Kurds do understand each other if Kurdistan was not divided in between 4 countries they bond will be stronger to understand even I can hear and understand what they all say even though I don’t speak one of the two other dialects actually it’s called dialect continuum to the same language Kurdish I think Persians also have this with other Persian speaking people
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
@@teknul89 Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. He is a NON-Lur troll most likely Arab.
@sandwichloverr
@sandwichloverr Жыл бұрын
Badini kurdish and baxtiari is kinda similar you should do a comparison video❤️
@bjarepz8364
@bjarepz8364 5 ай бұрын
Yes it is true the Bahdini dialect is similar to Luri , in pronouncing many words , Ru in Kurmangi is Ri in Luri and Bahdini . Many words are like that , Luri and Bahdini use i instead of u
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Bakhtiari and luri are descendant of middle Persian Parsig. We speak the purest form of Persian along with basseris
@bjarepz8364
@bjarepz8364 4 ай бұрын
@@Kurdish20226 You can not be bakhtiari or Luri , you are a Persian. You were most of the time under Kurdish rules , from the empire of Meds , to the Sasanide ,to the Buweyhids ,to the kurdish Zend empire by Karim Khan Zend And even the Sawafids were Kurds , the imperialist made the lie of Persia and Persian Empire, and some idiots believes that nonsense. For one simple reason that these poeple who invented this lie and you believed it Has a great hate against the Kurds , since the time of Kurdish Sultan Saladin ( Salahuddin Al-Ayubi ) how through out the Crusaders from Jerusalem
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
@@bjarepz8364 yet no historian agrees with this kird delusion. Sad. Historyless, countryless kird 😭
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
@@bjarepz8364 if this was the case then kirds would have a country, they dont. And yes im Persian because lurs and bakhtiari are Persian
@erfan3857
@erfan3857 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see a video about Luri language in this channel
@GokhanGul-os2vo
@GokhanGul-os2vo 10 ай бұрын
Luca is known as iranian Arabic. sometimes known as Turkish
@RezaBin-ol5zr
@RezaBin-ol5zr Жыл бұрын
As someone who studied both languages ​​and their dialects kalhori is more like Southern Luri (Boyer Ahmadi, mamsani....) than the other dialects of luri
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
keep dreaming
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Lor and Lak and Bextiyare and Kurmanc and Soran and Zaza and Kelhûr are all Kurds❤
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Shut up.
@Sanandaj196
@Sanandaj196 Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96not true I’m kurd I treat my luri ppl as my blood brothers,we all iranic but no same tribe , love lur , Lak , soran goran kurmanj Persian tajik , mazindarani talysh
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
@@Sanandaj196 no such thing as "iranic"
@shthepanda4585
@shthepanda4585 Жыл бұрын
Could you do similarity between Burmese and Chinese, because they are from the same language family which means their related, but I haven’t heard enough of the similarities between them, so I want to find out more! Good video as always.❤😊
@hlawnimawi8205
@hlawnimawi8205 Жыл бұрын
I’m cantonese and I have many Burmese friends😂 and I’ve also noticed some similarities I thought it was just a coincidence though. I would love to see a future video dedicated to this comment.
@shthepanda4585
@shthepanda4585 Жыл бұрын
@@hlawnimawi8205yeah I hope the creator sees this I really wanna see a video like that, lots of love to my Chinese people❤️🇨🇳
@jonahkio3859
@jonahkio3859 Жыл бұрын
We are family separated by borders and politics🇲🇲🇨🇳
@shthepanda4585
@shthepanda4585 Жыл бұрын
@@jonahkio3859 so true 💯
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Жыл бұрын
Ethnicity and nation does not completely depend on having common language (I know in many cases language matters), but it depends on having common history, culture, geography and common political decision and destiny. Indian people speak more than 10 languages inside India, but they all belong to the Hindi nation. Jews speak many many different languages, but they see themselves one and all of them identify themselves as a part of so called Jewish nation. Same thing for Persians (Most of the Persians speak Dari Farsi language, but there are more than three more distinct languages in Pars province in Iran spoken by Persians (Bandari language, Larestani/Achomi language..)etc. Same goes for Kurds, even though Luri language is linguistically distinct from Kurdish language (despite of having many things in common and similarities), both speakers of Kurdish and Luri share common origin, common history, common geography (both are the people of Zagros), same culture... I am myself a Kurd from the Kurdistan region and the city of Sulaymaniyah, my grandmother was a Lur. We are completely the same people.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
We arent the same people. Us lirs are descendant of Persians and speak a dialect of middle Persian Pahlavi, also kurds speak 7 different languages.
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRPtroll persian 😢 you really think we believe you? 😂😂😂 Kurds speak Kurdish and Luri (some identify Goran dialect of a Kurdish as another Kurdish language). But even persians themselves speak different languages such as Dari (Farsi), Bandari, achomi…etc .. linguistically they are three distinct languages
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani luri is a Persian dialect and language and descendant of middle Persian, kurds themselves speak languages not even of the same origin, while luri has Persian origin. furthermore dari and farsi and bandari arent different languages, theyre mutually intelligible and all new Persian, luri, gilak, tat, mazandarani, bakhtiari and feyli are middle Persian Pahlavi Parsig. while kurmanji, sorani, gorani, zazza, kermenshahi pahlavi and feyli are not mitually intelligible. You can search it up if you dont belive me, but you most likely know this already and are just in denial, sad, lol
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani also im Persian yes, a lur Persin and proud of my Persian ancestors, their achievements and empires.
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani
@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRP lmao 🤣 I bet if u can write a paragraph in luri. troll gayRanian
@amatresservan8206
@amatresservan8206 6 ай бұрын
As a Kurdish speaker I see how similarities depend not on the dialects but rather on random geographical sub-dialects instead, which is something really interesting I recently found out. Like you can find several words for something in in Luri or Kurmanji that sometimes are the same more related to each other's than their own classified languages/dialects
@habibrassa3596
@habibrassa3596 Жыл бұрын
In Pashto language also “mera” means husband but the “r” sound is different. Also, “sur” means red, “shin” green and “speen” means white in Pashto. And in my Farsi dialect of Afghanistan, “ru” means face.
@drfikretyildiz315
@drfikretyildiz315 4 ай бұрын
All these are like Kurdish
@rodimehe7863
@rodimehe7863 Жыл бұрын
What a rich, colorful and powerful language we Kurds have, let's not lose its, because that language is the black box of the arian language and culture.
@Kunta-Kinte002
@Kunta-Kinte002 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Us lurs are Persian
@imperialist4862
@imperialist4862 4 ай бұрын
@@Kurdish20226assimilated as hell they keep you like a dog
@LolLol-hq6gp
@LolLol-hq6gp Жыл бұрын
That's so wondrous Luri should be more close to Sorani than Kurmanci due to they are closer to each other But here the opposite
@kurd4lif3
@kurd4lif3 Жыл бұрын
Sorani is essentially Southern Kurmanji with Southern Kurdish (Gurani, Fayli, Kalhor) influence. Many words retained in Kurmanji are more closer to their origin than say in Sorani, and this also goes the same for Sorani having some words closer to its origin. Can you elaborate on your point with an example?
@youngbear4199
@youngbear4199 Жыл бұрын
Because it was Southern luri( bakhtiari) which is closer to persian . Northern luri dialects are closer to surani .
@Jiko8403
@Jiko8403 Жыл бұрын
کوردی و لوری دو زبون جدا از همن چه ربطی دارن به هم ، شما کوردا خیلی حال بهم زنید
@AG-gm7sz
@AG-gm7sz 6 ай бұрын
Sorani is called middle Kurmanji and Luri is called southern Kurmanji ❤️☀️💚
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
​@@AG-gm7szluri is a separate language idi*ot
@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333
@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333 Жыл бұрын
That Kurdish from Iraqi Kurdistan autonomous region, he speaks six different local and international languages but doesn’t know Arabic language while Kurdistan autonomous region is a part of Iraq. It’s back to the Kurdish revolution against Iraqi government in 1991 then the international community demarcated a red line between the Kurdistan Region and Iraq following the Iraqi government defeat and withdrawal from the region. So the Kurdish language had become the merely official state language of the region, and the region completely de-Arabized after approximately 70 years of conflict between Kurdish rebels and Iraqi government.
@bahaamin8950
@bahaamin8950 Жыл бұрын
I speak Arabic but forgot to mention it
@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333
@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333 Жыл бұрын
@@bahaamin8950 my mean generally, as you didn’t mention. thought just know six languages, but i numbered all.
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
​@@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333 sad colonialist?
@siraco4278
@siraco4278 Жыл бұрын
​​@@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333he de-arabization was a good thing. We the kurdish people don't want to learn arabic so we don't end of discussion. We also hate iraq and everyone who wants to keep that abomination of a state together. It is our right to not want to co-exist with arabs
@Ferhat21..
@Ferhat21.. Жыл бұрын
We don't have to speak the language of our colonizer
@greendro6410
@greendro6410 Жыл бұрын
This was nice to see 🙂
@history_update
@history_update 9 ай бұрын
As baluch from Balochistan I understand 99 % words Kurdish and we pronounce same words
@Soran_
@Soran_ Жыл бұрын
Sardar Assad bakhtiari the leader of lurs, in his book (the history of bakhtiari) says that the Kurdish people consist of four main tribes, (kurmac, lur, groan, kalhor) and sharafkhan bidlisi 500 years ago in his book (sharafnama)says the same thing, I hope one day we and our lur brothers be united and closer to each other again ❤
@hamidhp1373hp
@hamidhp1373hp Жыл бұрын
شر نگو عزیزم. ما لوریم و بزرگترین ننگ برامون اینه بهمون بگن فارسین یا کردین
@Soran_
@Soran_ Жыл бұрын
​@@hamidhp1373hp لەبەرچی کوردبوون شەرمە؟ ئێمە سۆمەر و مادین، گۆتی و میتانیین، ئێمە ئەکەد و ئاشورمان ڕوخاند، سەدان ساڵ دەسەڵاتداری بابل بووین، خاوەنی ڕاستەقینەی قەوقاز و ئێران و ئەنادۆڵ و میسۆپۆتامیاین، داهێنەری شارستانیەت و کشتوکاڵین، گەر کوردبوون شەرم بێ، کەواتە هەموو شتێک شەرمە!
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@Soran_you are gypsies and us lurs are Persian
@Soran_
@Soran_ Жыл бұрын
@@KoroushRP you aren't perisan, you worship perisans, while I'm a descendant of civilizations and great warriors, how proud the one who says I'm a KURD ☀️
@ayhankaracaoglu6845
@ayhankaracaoglu6845 Жыл бұрын
His name is Bitlisi but he is not from Bitlis, he is from Iran and he is irani. At those days there was not ethnic understanding as today.
@tanveerbaluch22
@tanveerbaluch22 Жыл бұрын
Sur" is a color. In baluchi it's also called sohr.
@bankabaver4583
@bankabaver4583 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thank you and Greetings from a Swede 🇸🇪 who do not speak your language at all (except from some Words, like besteni, Ganmashami, and azizm (sorry for the wrong spelling) 😀
@matrixxx3662
@matrixxx3662 11 ай бұрын
Those are not Swedish words either. Are you a Lur?
@Sanandaj196
@Sanandaj196 Жыл бұрын
It proves that we all have same root , and same language just basically with different pronunciation and the place of the words in the sentences,, we all 1 kurd lur Persian mazindarani tajik ,,
@MessiMerdo
@MessiMerdo Жыл бұрын
Feyli and Laki actually very well in a group with the Kahlori. And this group is labeled as South Kurdish. Actually in Iraqi Kurdistan Feyli is often also used to describe Kalhori speakers. Bakhtiari and South Lori are in fact closer to Kalhori, Feyli, Laki(South Kurdish) and one could argue even Sorani (Central) than they are to Persian or Kurmanji. That is my experience. Lori is equally distant to Kurmanji and Persian but closer to Persian than Hawrami-Zaza. One statement of Ali put it well in perspective. It is more like a transition. There is no clear cut divide from Kurdish to Persian. Such a divide exists no where in this world with two related languages. "Korom mar to baqe awi ke zi zi heeri mene aw mela ikeni" in Kurmanji the sentence would be like this. "Kurem ma tu baqî ku zu zu diheri avê mela dike"
@kaywann
@kaywann Жыл бұрын
If ali would say what you wrote in kurmanji in bakhtiari it would be. ”Korom mar to baqi ke zizi eri aw mela ikeni” the ”baqe awi” means ”water frog” but in ur kurmanji sentence you only wrote frog and not water frog there fore k changed it so you get a betrer understaning for how it would be in bakhtiari. Also in his sentence he said ”eri mene aw” wich means ”go in the water” you obly wrote ” go to the water” and in bakthari that becomes ”eri aw” and not ”eri mene aw” so the sentence becomes more alike in bakhtiari and kurmanji now In farsi it would be ”Pesaram magar to gorbagei ke zodzod miri ab shena mikoni”
@kaywann
@kaywann Жыл бұрын
One could almost argue that farsi, lori and kurdish is dialects of the same language that we call XZY. And the north-western dialect of XZY is called kurdish, The central-western dialect of XZY is called luri and the southern dialect of XZY is called farsi.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@kurd4lif3
@kurd4lif3 Жыл бұрын
@@kaywann The difference is Kurdish and Lori are tribal ethnic groups where as Persians are not.
@7mad211
@7mad211 Жыл бұрын
kurê min tu wek beqê diçîye nav avê û avjenî dikey
@tanveerbaluch22
@tanveerbaluch22 Жыл бұрын
In baluchi "dar" is dar.. Wood but not tree.
@SWANLAKE-zp9bq
@SWANLAKE-zp9bq 8 ай бұрын
in kuRdish its used for both
@Sma_krd
@Sma_krd Жыл бұрын
❤ kurdish language ❤
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
Luri is Persian not kurdish. Luri is descendant of middle Persian and kurds cant understand us as the video shows
@Diaoko
@Diaoko 10 ай бұрын
لر ها از کرد ها به وجود آمدن
@Shakew12
@Shakew12 9 ай бұрын
​@@KoroushRPlurs are kurdish lurs is kurdish langauge we are not even friend to persians😂😊
@mohammadmahdimohammadi2435
@mohammadmahdimohammadi2435 8 ай бұрын
Brother, I will tell you something, don't be upset, but the history of Ler and the language of Ler are more than Kurds, and the Kurds are Ler.
@mohammadmahdimohammadi2435
@mohammadmahdimohammadi2435 8 ай бұрын
@amediremi8411
@amediremi8411 4 ай бұрын
I speak Kurmanci and it has been clarified that all are Kurdish and not different languages. Thank you all and kindly request you to continue!
@pedram225
@pedram225 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I am Persian from Bushehr city, our Farsi accent is very close to Lori's, we also use many of the words that our friends use in the video. 
@kaywann
@kaywann Жыл бұрын
because half of bushehr is Lurs and the language there is a mix between luri and farsi
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv Жыл бұрын
شمال بوشهر جزو مناطق لر بوده، نه تنها زبون شما بلکه فرهنگ تونم شبیه هست راجع به لر های بوشهر تحقیق کنید.
@hamidhp1373hp
@hamidhp1373hp Жыл бұрын
عزیزم شما لور هستین
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@kaywannluri is literally a Persian dialect stemming from middle Persian Pahlavi not a different language entirely
@aone5787
@aone5787 Жыл бұрын
My father speaks southern lori from the Mamasani / Boyer ahmad regions of Iran. We are originally from the city of Kazerun, just west of Shiraz. There are similarities between all iranian languages. But Lori is overall different from Kurdish. Southern Iranians usually understand Lori better than Northern or Tehrani Iranians
@tannazmehrdadi8774
@tannazmehrdadi8774 Жыл бұрын
@@TyamKasit-sd5yu 😂😂
@tannazmehrdadi8774
@tannazmehrdadi8774 Жыл бұрын
@@TyamKasit-sd5yu I'm willing to bet a million dollars you're not a Lur.
@hamidhp1373hp
@hamidhp1373hp Жыл бұрын
چرا دوس داری خودتو زیرمجموعه قرار بدی؟؟ ما لوریم و اگه کلمه های اصیلمون بکار برده بشه هیچ فارسی قادر ب فهمیدن ما نیست.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
The Bakhtiyari Luri dialect is heavily Persianized. That is why it is so close to Modern Persian. Also Middle Persian did not descend from Old Persian that is boiler plate information fed from Wikipedia without any actual research. Middle Persian actually descends from a dialect of Parthian and was called Persian by the Sassanids once they established the empire after the Parthians. Both Middle Persian and Parthian were called Pahlavi for a reason! And old Persian is much more similar to Sanskrit than anything.
@kasras206
@kasras206 Жыл бұрын
Bahador please do a video with all Zagros languages - e.g. comparing Laki or northern Luri with Sorani Kurdish, Feyli or Kalhori.
@barzankhorshidsawar1979
@barzankhorshidsawar1979 Жыл бұрын
‌ملت‌‌ زاگرس لهجه‌ های زیادی دارد مادها
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
Luri is Persian not kurdish
@setare1369
@setare1369 Жыл бұрын
Can I just say that all these words also exist in Persian? Just pronunciation is different and they are less common. For example we have a cave in Firoozkooh names eskaft salman .
@leonaloves2lumin8
@leonaloves2lumin8 8 ай бұрын
This is great thank you for Sharing ✌️☺️from Mahabad❤️☀️💚
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Im a proud Luri Persian. Love to Iran 🇮🇷 💪
@aramgorooei1240
@aramgorooei1240 Ай бұрын
Ali seems to keep all the words in a very ancient style in both concept and pronunciation! I liked it:)
@alexeiabrikosov360
@alexeiabrikosov360 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and cool. I have never heard about Luri Bakhtiari.
@KurdeQonya
@KurdeQonya Жыл бұрын
Both are not interesting :) just bakhtiari good brave people with honour.. lur people weak people with no honour just lying people
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
@@KurdeQonya Lurs in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar are called Bakhtiyari Lurs. understand?
@Jiko8403
@Jiko8403 Жыл бұрын
​@@KurdeQonyaبی شرف تویی هزار پدر عوضی🤢🤮🖕🏻
@Jiko8403
@Jiko8403 Жыл бұрын
​@@IranLurمگه فقط چهار محال و بختیاری لر بختیاری داره؟لرستان ، چهار محال و خوزستان
@RezvanHatami24
@RezvanHatami24 7 күн бұрын
Luri is a branch of Kurdish , 100 years ago we did not have something like Kurd and Lur , it was all Kurd , this happend during the reign of pahlavi dictatorship , the aim was to weaken the Kurdish unity and culture and language , the percian dictator spent millions of dollars to assimilate Kurds of southeast(Lures) , and today the eastern Lures have been persianized , they think they are percian but they are not , the percian dictator even denied the Kurdiah identity and called the all people of Eran to be Aryan (it is a lie) to fool them and introduced percian as the mother of languages to fool people , Kurdish has 21 branches and Lur is one of them , I am the Kalhori Kurd , and they are Luri Kurd And it is simple why the percian rulers do that : Divide And Rule
@Golwani25
@Golwani25 Күн бұрын
Well said Aryan is just a Sanskrit word and it means noble and has nothing to do with genetic, scientific and ethnic background. Western colonialism used these to invade india and Hitler did the same to eliminate jews
@heymi.9488
@heymi.9488 Жыл бұрын
as a sorani speaker i understood the kurmanji %100 but bruv the other two!😂 i’ve always thought luri would be similar to sorani
@Phoenix_1800BC
@Phoenix_1800BC Жыл бұрын
Luri Khorram Abadi is like Kurdish kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqKulKutgaplpKs&pp=ygUW2LPZgtin24zbjCDYp9uMINiu2K_Ypw%3D%3D
@fashionstyle5817
@fashionstyle5817 4 ай бұрын
ئەمنیش وا بیرم دەکردوە کە کرمانجی سخت بەڵام کرمانجی و سۆرانی زۆر وەک یەک دەچن
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 2 ай бұрын
@@heymi.9488 luri is a Persian dialect from middle Persian
@adrianflorinoprea1989
@adrianflorinoprea1989 9 ай бұрын
Although Romanian is spoken in Southeastern Europe, it belongs to the branch of Indo-European languages. Within these increasingly studied languages, there exist what are called translinguistic homonyms, and for some words, I have found a phonetic counterpart in Romanian, sometimes with direct meanings or attributes. Thus, I have found "Ru" similar to Romanian "rid" = wrinkle, of the face. "Mire" identical to Romanian "mire" = groom, young husband. "Da" similar to Romanian "dada" (older sister) and "doica" (breastfeeding woman). "Sor" similar to Romanian "soare" = sun (referring to the color red).
@fazrazfarzam4688
@fazrazfarzam4688 Жыл бұрын
That was so interesting.
@abdulsamadamin147
@abdulsamadamin147 8 ай бұрын
That was great. Good similarities between accents. I sow the Farsi and dary and achmi, they hardly understand achmi while they saying the achmi is the origin of Farsi
@lurilanguage
@lurilanguage Жыл бұрын
luri is an amazing language.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
Its descendant of middle Persian
@Random_Evolution
@Random_Evolution 8 ай бұрын
The continuum languages, Kurdish, Luri, Persian, Bauchi, Pashtun, etc. are verieties born from Pahlavi after the Arab invasion of Iranshahr when Iranic population was one integrated nation. Hope these languages find a way to come closer to each others by the means of minor grammatical and lexical modification to from a great nation again.
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Pahlavi was called Parsig so theyre all Persian
@kurd4lif3
@kurd4lif3 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! I like how Ali described it as transitional languages or dialects. When he spoke it sounded very Sorani or Fayli to me in terms of accent, however the words are spelt differently. Eg Zuzu v Zizi, Korom v Kuram. Similar differences between Kurdish and Persian to, Xanu v Xune, however as a Kurdish speaker I feel like Luri when spoken is closer to Kurdi than Farsi is to Kurdish. The most transitional dialect between Kurdi and Luri is probably Lakki, Lakki is Kurdish NW iranic but has much Luri influence. Laki also strangely features many similarities with Kurmanji and Zaza-Hawrami.
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Tu xelkê kuderyê Bira
@kurd4lif3
@kurd4lif3 Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Mukriyan bira
@sh-kl5im
@sh-kl5im Жыл бұрын
Also you call each other Bira means brother in english baradar in farsi brar in luri and bakhtiary. The same root.
@aimanaramaliali9692
@aimanaramaliali9692 Жыл бұрын
@@sh-kl5im Well in sorani baradar or berader means as much as friend
@sh-kl5im
@sh-kl5im Жыл бұрын
@@aimanaramaliali9692 maby it comes from Muslem thing and also "brotherhood" in Christianity use the same concept for friendship. not just religious It's international
@arexta153
@arexta153 Жыл бұрын
It was fascinating!
@jonam7589
@jonam7589 Жыл бұрын
Sur=Surati=red/pink/ Suri is the name Tom Cruise's daughter. Yes, he used a an Iranian word. Shaow = Shab in Persian. A lot of words used here are the same in Persian with little change. I only know Persian even though my ancestor from father side is Bakhtiyari and my is from Kurdestan.
@omid706
@omid706 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but some I've never heard before like eshkaft?
@jonam7589
@jonam7589 Жыл бұрын
@@omid706 I didn't say all. Of course, if you pay attention to the root of a word, you might be able to guess. "eskkaft" maybe is related to "kashf. eshtekaf" in Persian. I am only guessing, since I have lived in the US since 1974 and I am not very good in Persian.
@omid706
@omid706 Жыл бұрын
@@jonam7589 sure but at first or if I'd heard the words in a sentence I would not get it. They've varied to an extent that makes them different despite sharing the same root
@jonam7589
@jonam7589 Жыл бұрын
@@omid706 That's very true. When I visited Kurdestan, I had no idea what my elative would say. As I learned a few key words and started paying more attention, little by little I started to understand more. Like "z" changes to "zh" Zan becomes Zhen. "choni" "chetori"; I think if I learn 300 words and stay there for 6 months, I should understand what they say. Languages evolve. They have much less arabic that Persian today.
@slavops9599
@slavops9599 Жыл бұрын
They aren’t Persian words dude Kurdish is so much older than farsi
@apersianguy2465
@apersianguy2465 Жыл бұрын
The most widespread hypothesis is that they are not Kurds, but that they share a common ancestor, the Medes
@ZaZa-ln9jo
@ZaZa-ln9jo Жыл бұрын
Taliş and Zazaki may be interesting also
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Zimanê mao zaf rindo û waşo 😚🫂💚☀️❤️
@ZaZa-ln9jo
@ZaZa-ln9jo Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Zvonê ma zhaf/ghelek/xheyli rınd u baş/weş o. Our language is very beautiful und handsome 🤨
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
@@ZaZa-ln9jo her biciyo şêro 🦁🫂😘
@ZaZa-ln9jo
@ZaZa-ln9jo Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Zazaki’d “her bıji” çiniyo Deza 😉
@kks.z29
@kks.z29 Жыл бұрын
@@SheroalKurdi96 Bji KURDISTAN
@Ramy_Ramz
@Ramy_Ramz 4 ай бұрын
Just a note, for the word "cave" in the Sorani-Hawleri (Erbil) dialect we say "aşkaft" rather than "aşka-wt". Usually Slulaymaniyah reagion dialect use "w" in place "f". For example the number 7 in the Suli dialect is "ĥawt" and in the Hawler reagion it's pronounced "ĥaft".
@kingmeraj3819
@kingmeraj3819 Жыл бұрын
Lori is about 90% similar to Persian; It is certainly Lori is old persian but Kurdish is an independent language
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Kurdish isnt even a language. Its like 8 languages and half are Persian dialects
@kingmeraj3819
@kingmeraj3819 Жыл бұрын
Basically, language is said to be something that you can't even understand by being in the environment. That is, until you use the book of grammer of that language, even if you spend a year in the environment, you will not understand. Iike Kurdish , Gilaki languages and ...@@KoroushRP
@Jiko8403
@Jiko8403 Жыл бұрын
​@@kingmeraj3819عادت داری از گوه لور ها تغذیه کنی عزیزم؟لور ها قبل از اینکه به مدرسه برن و فارسی یاد بگیرن حتی یک کلمه نمبتونستن فارسی حرف بزنن و بفهمن بعد توی احمق بی سواد میگی لوری فارسیه؟
@Jiko8403
@Jiko8403 Жыл бұрын
​@@kingmeraj3819ما لریه نه فارسی ، ما نژادی متفاوت از فارس و کورد هستیم با قدمتی ده ها برابر با بقیه ی فومیت ها ، لباس و رقص قوم لور اونقدر تنوع داره که همون برای بستن دهن کوردای احمقی مث تو کافین ، ما زبانیم نه یک لهجه از فارسی یا کوردی که دو هزار سال بیشتر قدمت ندارن ، ما نژادی با بیش از پنجاه هزار سال قدمت هستیم ، برو مطالعه کن در مورد لور ها که از نژاد عیلام و کاسیت و لولوبی ها هستن بعد بیا بگو ببینم کوردی لهجست یا لوری!
@johnnykevin-b6z
@johnnykevin-b6z Жыл бұрын
Lur is kurdish dialect. Persian should Stop Splitting kurdish people Like the shah did.
@tanveerbaluch22
@tanveerbaluch22 Жыл бұрын
In baluchi " mire or merd" is mard.
@mortezaaminii67
@mortezaaminii67 Жыл бұрын
Super und das ist ganz intressant . Als lur sehe ich mich kurde
@Jeannevick
@Jeannevick Жыл бұрын
I can't get over the merd and merdum for husband ahaha (french person married to a sorani speaker) love it hihi
@امیرارفعرسولی
@امیرارفعرسولی 9 ай бұрын
For sure all of this languages are from persia
@wexqlp3863
@wexqlp3863 8 ай бұрын
Kurmanji, Sorani and Lori are all routed in the Kurdish language.
@wexqlp3863
@wexqlp3863 8 ай бұрын
Also Persia is not a land. It’s an ethnicity
@servantofsusa7838
@servantofsusa7838 8 ай бұрын
​@@wexqlp3863luri is a decandant of middle Persian not kirdish
@wexqlp3863
@wexqlp3863 8 ай бұрын
@@servantofsusa7838 - LMAO Middle Persian (Pahlavi/Fayli) (Parth empire) is routed in the Median empire. Which is originally Kurdish. Cyrus the great Grandfather was Cyxares which was the Kurdish Median king. This makes the Achaemenid lineage also Kurdish.
@servantofsusa7838
@servantofsusa7838 8 ай бұрын
@@wexqlp3863 lmao no old Persian Middle Persian Luri. Modern Persian Kurdish has nothing to do with it
@ahantabarzin
@ahantabarzin Жыл бұрын
I am from balagriveh lorestan ur dilect is between kordi and bkhtiari but we are closer to bakhtiari than the rest. Of course we are in eastern part of minor lorestan and our trib is PAPi
@kks.z29
@kks.z29 Жыл бұрын
20:02 feyli and laki = southern kurdish
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
Yep, they try to assimilate them
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv
@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv Жыл бұрын
Kurd=🐴
@kks.z29
@kks.z29 Жыл бұрын
@@Nazaedfghhhhhuvv لکی و فیلی زبان های شمال غربی ایـرانی هستن. لری جنوب غربی. یکی از لرها میگفت لری گویشی از فارسیه. ما فارس هستیم.
@Oe258
@Oe258 Жыл бұрын
nope, laki is more similar to khoramabadi than any souther kurdish dialect. feyli on the other hand has two dialects and majority of fayli people are kurds i think. but keep that in mind the entire population of northern lurs are fayli and lak lurs except lurs from kangavar(kermanshah) tuyiserkan,nahavand,malayer(hamedan)shazand,khomein(markazi) are salasi lurs
@Oe258
@Oe258 Жыл бұрын
again i say majority of fayli speakers are kurd but northen luri dialect is also called fayli or luri fayli. this sometimes confuse people.+ majority of lak people don't identify as kurd. im half lak my mother is from bajelan tribe. bot my father&mother tribes are from luristan province. tribe that my laki half blongs to live in luristan,khuzistan,small parts of iraq and small arts of kermanshah and ilam. but majority are in north of khuzistan and luristan province.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
Luris are Persian whos language descends from middle Persian Pahlavi.
@sivagurunathan3825
@sivagurunathan3825 Жыл бұрын
In India Dada is a older male.dadi also female . south India classical Tamil language thatha is male .
@jame176
@jame176 Жыл бұрын
Do you remember Baktiyar Khilji,the person who burned the Nalanda University
@sivagurunathan3825
@sivagurunathan3825 Жыл бұрын
@@jame176 yes he did it.but south Indian palm leaf collection of literature which was saved by jains burned by invades like brahmins .
@Godfather2121
@Godfather2121 Жыл бұрын
In fact, all Indo-European languages ​​have the letters mtr for the word mother. but the interesting thing is that it means "to give" in Kurdish. i read somewhere. In ancient beliefs, the great gods have always been women. and the "da" meaning to give here comes from the woman's analogy to the earth. The soil provides us with food. we sow we reap. for giving birth to a woman. considered as sacred as the earth. daye-given "daye"- is the mother. this means. I'm Kurdish. I know the kurdish dialect. There are more words for the word mother. da,daye,yade,ci,mak
@jame176
@jame176 Жыл бұрын
@@sivagurunathan3825 Brahmins never did that. The invaders from turkey and Afghan did. The library of Nalanda had so many books that it kept burning for 3 months
@jame176
@jame176 Жыл бұрын
@@Godfather2121 oh wow! Actually can you specify some of the dialects of Kurdish?
@abdulsamadamin147
@abdulsamadamin147 6 ай бұрын
Is there much difference between Lary (Achomi) and Luri?
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Theyre both Persian speaking middle Persian dialects
@collectivelove2275
@collectivelove2275 Жыл бұрын
Are Lurs only in Iran?
@Sma_krd
@Sma_krd Жыл бұрын
Diala.Iraq
@collectivelove2275
@collectivelove2275 Жыл бұрын
@@Sma_krd oh that's amazing to know.
@samb1027
@samb1027 Жыл бұрын
I also Think in xanaqin iraq
@SheroalKurdi96
@SheroalKurdi96 Жыл бұрын
Xanaqin Kurdistan
@kurd4lif3
@kurd4lif3 Жыл бұрын
Lurs are Bakhtiari, Mamasani and Koh Giluyehis. Qashqais are Turkish leaders of Lorestan. They are arguable. There’s no Lors in Iraq. They are Kurds of Fayli tribe, they are mislabeled as Lors.
@tanveerbaluch22
@tanveerbaluch22 Жыл бұрын
In baluchi "erw" is aor.. Rain but not cloud.
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
Lurs are Persians and speak a middle Persian Pahlavi Parsig dialect. Long live Persian Luris 💪 🇮🇷
@heiderkocher1455
@heiderkocher1455 Жыл бұрын
lur are KURDS
@johnnykevin-b6z
@johnnykevin-b6z Жыл бұрын
Lur is a kurdish dialect . In every book IT IS written That Lurs are kurds. Only the iranian shah tried to Split kurds Into many groups .
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP 11 ай бұрын
@@johnnykevin-b6z kurd historically just meant nomad and was a term used to refer to many Persian and Iranic nomads, not an ethnicity til recently, and lurs are Persian who speak middle Persian dialect, kurds cant even understand us and Lurs consider ourselves Persian not kiridsh.
@nameistverborgen
@nameistverborgen 9 ай бұрын
I am Lur, we are Not Persian...WE Cousins maybe...Kurds our Brother
@Boran-zf7bd
@Boran-zf7bd 9 ай бұрын
Ulan ırkçı köksüz korous bile kürt tür zira med kürt imparatorluğu kralının torunu dur anladın mı ahlaksız onursuz haddini bil kadim kürt halkı Mezopotamya ve iranın en eski halkı dır fars diye bir şey yok hepiniz göçebe idiniz ve Kürt med imparatorluğu nun hükmü altındaydınuz anladın mı kadim kürt ismi Sümer, babil, asur, arami kaynaklarında kurti, kord, karda, kardu, gord, kurdienne diye geçer anladın mı haddini bil fars diye bir millet kesinlikle yoktur son dönemlerde iran şahları tarafından uydurulmuş bir isimdir bunu bütün dünya biliyor
@hasray9699
@hasray9699 Жыл бұрын
Hi Bahador please do a comparison video Arabic and Pashto that would be really interesting to see.
@ariankardux2072
@ariankardux2072 Жыл бұрын
Lur and Kurds is the same. We are not cousins ore similar, we are the same blood and Nation
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
We have nothing to do wtih your kirds we are Persian and proud
@IranLur
@IranLur Жыл бұрын
Kurda Baradaranemunan! Love Kurdish people. The music, food, dancing, nomadic lifestyle and warrior horsemen culture. Kurds always will be Lur brothers!
@KoroushRP
@KoroushRP Жыл бұрын
@@IranLur speak for yourself. Kiram tu halghe kirda
@sadboy3444
@sadboy3444 Жыл бұрын
​@@KoroushRP lol 😂😂 You are pretty fool dude 😂😂
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
We are not the same
@Randa-ko3cd
@Randa-ko3cd 9 ай бұрын
You mean similarities between the Kurdish dialects, because lur are kurds also. Luri is kurdish.
@sadboy3444
@sadboy3444 Жыл бұрын
For all who said lurs are not KURDS! Are the Loris Kurds? In a natural environment, free from external influences, people decide their own identity and no one has the right to impose their identity on others. In the Kurdistan environment, people's rights and historical facts have been mixed and the facts have been distorted. Historically and culturally, the Loris have been considered Kurds throughout history and have considered themselves Kurds. However, in the 20th century, under the influence of European scholars, pan-Iranian ideology, Persian and Iranian nationalism, there has been a change in the views of some Loris. The name of the Loris appears to be composed of the words “Lo Huri” (1) which means “Huri youth, sun-worshipping youth” in Kurdish and “Lo Khurvi” which means “Huri youth” in Huri. The name also appears among the Kalhurs, who are neighbors of the Loris. The name of the Kalhurs consists of (Kal+Hur) which means (brave/excellent/great+Hur) meaning (excellent Hurrians, excellent sun worshippers). The Kurdish word 'hur' has had a close meaning in the Huri language. The Huri people say 'khuri' in the morning, which means close to the Kurdish sun. There is. Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, who wrote the history of the Kurdish nation, considered the Loris as part of the four groups of the Kurdish nation. Until the 20th century, when asked where the Loris came from, they told the story of Sulaymaniyah. Furthermore, if we pay attention to some phenomena and aspects of Lorestan culture, the historical fact becomes clear. For example, if you look at the Lorestan region today, you will see that one of the most important areas of Lorestan settlement is Shahr Kurd, which means Kurdish city. Throughout history, the area has been inhabited by Loris. Is it possible for the Lore city to be named after Kurds and not be Kurds themselves? Who are the Kurds after whom the city is named? It is also seen that the Loris dance like all Kurds and the drum and the zurna, which are instruments specific to Kurdish dance, are among the Loris and have their own characteristics like all other parts of Kurdistan, but are completely different from Persian. In the Yarsani religion, whose founders and followers were among the Goran, Lore and sometimes Soran. In the book Sarnjam Yarsankan, Lori and Goran poetry are mixed in such a way that they cannot be separated from each other. Figures such as Shakhoshin, Baba Tayer Hamadani and many others who are considered important figures of the religion are all Lorestan, while the majority of the followers of the religion are Goran. The transfer of religious views and cultural perspectives between the Lorestan and Goran clearly shows the historical commonality that has existed between different parts of Kurdistan throughout history. One of the characteristics that has emerged among the Kurds has been the phenomenon of women's power. The emergence of women in power has always been part of Kurdish culture and history. Unlike many of its neighboring nations, Kurds have hundreds of famous women. One of the most famous Lore women who strongly opposed Reza Shah was Qadam Khair. Qadem Khair has been like all Kurdish women in culture and behavior. Throughout history, they have played all the social and political roles of men. Unfortunately, the political side has taken wing over the placement of the Loris in the outer cell of the Kurds. The Lori dialect is the same dialect spoken by the Failis in southern Kurdistan in the areas near Baghdad. The Failis consider themselves Kurds because they are not influenced by Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism. If the Loris are brought closer to the Persians on the basis of language, this view is wrong. Because based on hundreds of historical and linguistic evidence, it appears that Persian is closer to Kurdish than Kurdish to Persian. There is no doubt that the Loris have identified themselves as Kurds throughout history. Only in the 20th century, under the influence of Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism, and European academic research, did they doubt their Kurdishness. Otherwise, according to historical documents, similarities in music and dance, language, religion, social relationships, etc. They are like every other Kurd. Source: Who is the Kurd (Soran Hama Rash)
@mirnowruz
@mirnowruz 5 ай бұрын
F*u*k yourself and your fake historical evidence, we lurs as thousands light years not considering ourselves to be n*asty kurd, go make a fake nation with another people idi**t.
@NonChildStories
@NonChildStories Жыл бұрын
Dar resembles Russian derevo (tree), it is an Indo-European root.
@Kurdish20226
@Kurdish20226 4 ай бұрын
Lurs are Persians who speak a middle Persian dialect related to old Parsig Persian
@Josef-cb4jf
@Josef-cb4jf Жыл бұрын
Sorani Kurdish itself also has dialects of its own. Someone from Sulaymaniyah will pronounce the word 'cave' as "eskewt". In Erbil (Hawleri dialect), people will pronounce it as "eshkaft".
@EA22126
@EA22126 21 күн бұрын
That is accent not dialect . kurmanji is the same it has different accents not dialects .
@bublick76
@bublick76 Жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that the word "white" in many Iranian languages ​​has retained very similar sound, while other words for colors have changed. For example, in Kurdish, Talysh and Pamiri Rushani "white" is "spi", in Pashto it is "spin", in Persian - "sefid". The preservation of this word is associated with its sacred religious (Zoroastrian) meaning. Apparently, our Zoroastrian ancestors associated white with life or with something bright and holy, including fire.
@jonam7589
@jonam7589 Жыл бұрын
in persian is "Sepid" with a "P" however like many other persian words which were destroyed after the arab invasion since they don't have "p" in their language it became "f" which we shouldn't use since we can pronounce "p". Asp became Asb (horse), Pil became Fil, Parsi became Farsi etc. Kurds and Lors didn't allow the Arabic influence as much as Persian.
@MindSeeker2341
@MindSeeker2341 Жыл бұрын
kurds have nothing to do with zoroastrians
@Sanandaj196
@Sanandaj196 Жыл бұрын
@@MindSeeker2341what are talking of course Kurds have Zoroastrian ancestors , and I’m so proud of that ,
@KurdeQonya
@KurdeQonya Жыл бұрын
@@Sanandaj196we never had! Its a lye of iranian state!! Sneaky policy! Kurds were never zoroastrian…
@Sanandaj196
@Sanandaj196 Жыл бұрын
@@KurdeQonya all sorani Kurds were Zoroastrian and all kurmanj were yazidis , , and I’m still Zoroastrian
@rajabouzeid8801
@rajabouzeid8801 Жыл бұрын
13:48 I think the flower you're referring to is chamomile, in Arabic it's بابونج
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