Simon Jordan REFUSES To Give Wayne Rooney CREDIT For Managerial Career After First Loss At Plymouth

[@rLxJake]

Rooney needs to become an assistant and learn under a manager that knows what they are doing.

[@bilalpati1639]

couldn’t have said it better

[@spms3018]

The ego of the golden generation doesn’t allow it

[@Dean-wh4mm]

​@@spms3018BS

[@johnowen7302]

Your right 100 percent but if i was that good of a player I'd have a big ego too most likely they live a crazy life everyone around them giving compliments all the time​@@spms3018

[@Paul-is4dw]

​@@bilalpati1639?

[@garywallace5602]

The sooner Rooney is sacked the better. He's cleared the shelves of Cornish Pasties...the locals are livid!

[@harold6863]

😂😂😂

[@HaakonOdinsson]

Ginster’s are NOT Cornish pasties, what an insult they are to Cornish pasties. Wooney can eat them, well, it looks like he already has. Makes a change to the pies, lol

[@kernowchris]

how original.

[@roathripper]

I hear he's taken all the loose Grannys off the shelf too....... (granny smiths, of course)

[@Premiumking25]

Aaamazing 😂

[@dominicgolding3529]

Glad to see Jim, Simon and Graeme all got the white t-shirt memo 😂

[@LittleBobbleProductions]

I can imagine them lurking on a basketball court, somewhere in the United States of America.

[@Dan-rc1sl]

Jim’s not so clean. Whiskey stains a plenty possibly

[@andypandy4607]

When i saw a championship manager had been sacked today, i thought it was Wayne

[@waynemarshall8836]

Clickbait they knew what they we’re doing

[@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989]

First game in and Rooney already digging the players out.

[@JosephMoore-Gilbert]

Did the same down the blues

[@brawrecords]

He's making lampard look like Pep. Terrible football manager.

[@NandoFIT-df8ly]

sir alex's students are all managerial failures. goes to show how tactically limited sir alex was, and relied mostly on psychology and man management for his success.

[@dorualex3092]

lmao

[@brawrecords]

@NandoFIT-df8ly Carrick is one who might be able to step up to premier league one day.

[@moefar3418]

@@NandoFIT-df8lycouldn’t agree more.. even van nistelrooy is finished that is why he is assistant rather than a coach

[@NoahBailey-v3e]

​@NandoFIT-df8ly I'll have whatever your taking please

[@guanxvi]

Danny Rohl is seriously flying under the radar. Deserves at least a mention having taken Wayne to school.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Rooney needs to Rohl with the punches

[@BarryRerack147]

No no no Wednesday will be relegated as well. Rohl is awful, teams rubbish. Plymouth losing 4-0 was TOTALLY down to Rooney. Any other manager in the world would have taken 3 points from Hillsborough with that Plymouth super team that by rights should be top of the Premier League

[@treble20]

The defending by Plymouth (against Wednesday) was probably the worse defending I have ever seen in the Championship.

[@thejannerofplymouth3654]

Totally agree ... hoping for a miracle this season 🙏

[@Gunn27]

@@thejannerofplymouth3654Get him some grannies and he might turn your form around 🤷

[@johnkeohane4239]

Good luck wayne . Good for you being ambitious

[@SteveInskip]

He made a decent go of it at Derby because he had Liam Rosenior as coach and together they made a good pair.

[@paulbaddiley7326]

True words there, Rosenior was the brains and Rooney was just a financial strain on the team!

[@roathripper]

a right pair

[@SteveInskip]

@@paulbaddiley7326 Rooney to be fair did a huge amount of work behind the scenes during the final part of the administration so even if he’s an average coach, he was hugely important to Derby during that period.

[@nadeemamode]

​@@paulbaddiley7326 and now rosenior has a decent job at strasbourg

[@simonclark3233]

Smallest budget in the league but Simon would want his team to get up the league.. .how about being realistic?

[@josephhall5136]

Yes you are right, so because he has the smallest budget he should finish last? No, the owner, although wrong to get Rooney in he obviously thinks he can get average players playing to get them up the league.

[@RyanDavis-jo7uz]

Smaller then Oxford?

[@mikewilson8513]

I am a Birmingham City fan. We are in league one because of Rooney. You are a good club Argyle, the sooner you show Mr Rooney the door, the better.

[@christophermancini7334]

Rooney wasn’t as your club long enough for it to be solely his fault….

[@mikewilson8513]

@@christophermancini7334 Rooney is to blame 100% The time he was there, did the damage for the season.

[@theiron2116]

What position were Birmingham in the league when Rooney took over??

[@neilgilhespie1288]

@@theiron2116 sixth

[@garybagnall6332]

We were 6th and he destroyed the player’s confidence and was sacked when we were 20th,it was absolutely Rooneys fault we are in league 1

[@B.landon]

The white T shirts😂. Looks like a gay bar from the 90's. 💋

[@irieite9666]

They came up from league 2 in the last 3 years Simon. The owner would be an idiot to state the aim is "to get up the bleedin' league" the lowest budget by a 'bleedin' mile

[@paulrussell6495]

😍

[@paulgibbons2320]

After first game, it's a bit harsh. At least he has not kopped out and got a pundit job. He loves the game. I hope he can keep fighting and prove people wrong.

[@johnrogers7782]

And yet the BBC employ Rooney as an ‘expert’

[@harold6863]

The BBC that expects the public to fund them. The same woke BBC that employs woke Gary Lineker and brands white working class as right wing 😡

[@braindonor8753]

Rooney is fantastic on TV.

[@winstonwells8773]

What a stupid & irrelevant comment

[@conors2104]

He’s an expert player

[@bobslobbers5311]

He wasn’t a bad player like

[@Tommy__C_G]

I bet Simon couldn't wait to comment on this 😂 Rooney hasn't got the brains to be a modern manager

[@Kingofthekop1]

That was obvious from the start, he can barely string a sentence together never mind manage a football team.

[@braindonor8753]

Do you think Simon is intelligent? Because he knows 4 long words? Haha This panel consists of a failed chairman disc jockey and the man who killed off Liverpool for 30 years and fell out with all his best players.

[@Tommy__C_G]

@braindonor8753 Cheer up fella 😉

[@nicholashunt9522]

​@@braindonor8753obviously more intelligent than yourself.

[@braindonor8753]

@nicholashunt9522 if you are holding up Simon as an intelligent person I worry for you. His show is like the football version of loose women.

[@leeballington3136]

I love theses clips of Simon waffling on, but can we all share a moment for Graeme Souness 3:23 battling with those STUPID bottle caps, before giving up and ripping the damn thing from the bottle. Off camera of course. Nobody wants to see that kind of violence early morning.

[@jasonfrost4483]

Souness loving Simon 😂😂😂

[@chickendipper92]

simon jordan looks like rodney trotter

[@itsBATSMENnotBATTERS]

And has about as much football knowledge as mr bean

[@cutlerlon8468]

He looks like Jim dale.

[@dubmcstep2645]

Thats harsh on rodders

[@itsBATSMENnotBATTERS]

@@cutlerlon8468 chippendale

[@drivingschooldevon]

I reckon wheres wally

[@As-qz5lr]

Love Wayne, hope he can turn it around.

[@batman1980]

The problem may be that he was a great player and he's trying to get players to play like he did but they aren't at that level.

[@MarkPitsmoorOwl]

SHEFF WED are definitely Sleeping Giants around 30k Fans Yesterday at Hillsborough with only 1.200k Plymouth fans for a Sky Sports Tv match! It’s the most expensive stadium in the championship plus when you think it’s 24 long years since they was last in the Premier League Great Massive Club who are Going places under Danny Rohl & it can be very intimidating at Hillsborough SWFC fans are the best in English football for Atmosphere & loyalty

[@ChrisMan83]

Yep, Graham seems to forget the fact that Liverpool have the money to spend to expand for the foreign supporters. I'd love to see the tables turned one day to just witness their support in the lower league's for over 20 years!!! I've also seen many comments from people like a Man U fan who attended the game in the playoffs about our atmosphere, That it was the best away atmosphere he's been to!

[@cliffrightmove1527]

Brilliant Graham totally agree even before you spoke 👍👍👍👍👍

[@ag2011_X]

The day Rooney was announced as the manager I posted that he would be probably be gone by October. At this rate he'd be lucky to get to September. I just can't see him improving and see him losing control of the dressing room and respect of our best players.

[@creasicle]

No idea why ex-players like Rooney keep getting jobs when they've proved time and again they're not up to it. Couldn't get close to Barry Bannan. He's nearly 35. How are they going to cope when they come up against players like Sander Berge and Georginio Rutter and Aaron Ramsey?

[@user-dk6jb6hq9t]

Jeez, after one game! Give the guy a chance!

[@ashwilliams4959]

He gets 1 or 2 more. That was by far the worst ive ever seen plymouth play. Rooney gets the benefit of not having a full pre season as he spent too long on holiday... I'm guessing he's not had time to train the team yet cause surely he's not that bad

[@mikewilson8513]

My club, BCFC, is in league one because of Rooney. 3rd in the championship when he took over, 3rd from bottom at the end. Relegated.

[@mltsr]

No

[@corin6677]

That was said at Birmingham

[@esorkinc4011]

That exactly what Derby County and Birmingham did. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Epsilon04]

In a way, the likes of Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard are victims of their own status. Status that means they get top jobs much more quickly than normal managers, but it means they don't have the experience and skillset to be successful in those positions once they are in them. It's all very well saying they should earn their stripes and work their way up, but nobody, in any walk of life, is going to go through the hassle of working their way up multiple steps of a ladder when they can get a high paid, glamorous job straight away. It's like saying an actor should snub a role in a top Hollywood movie and work their way up through local theatre productions first.

[@possessedslig]

What a bold take

[@goonern4644]

Four managerial opportunities by the age of 38. These chosen ones have it made. What are the odds fir him to manage Everton and England?

[@mikehunt1528]

Darren Farley. Nuff said.

[@davidmcmanus2464]

Wayne is a tactical and coaching genius, just look at his record

[@ashwilliams4959]

I'm guessing he's not spoken, trained etc the team yet then cause we had no tactics, no coaching or anything just 11 lost lads chasing a ball

[@esorkinc4011]

@@ashwilliams4959that Rooney Ball. 😂

[@loudmouthdiaries5188]

Video I was waiting for I love Rooney drive to continue and push and be better

[@adamyeejy-sk9fh]

Rooneys tactical observations are actually really accurate, I dont watch his sides play but what is he doing so wrong? Do the players not respect him? Poor tactics? Bad subs? Makes no sense.

[@UrbanKizBeast]

Farley does Rooney perfect 😂 1:20

[@MUFC739]

Well im a Man U fan and i completely disagree with Graham sourness about Hillsborough as i attended the playoff game against Peterborough in what was a truely amazing atmosphere and the best away one ive been to 👌 I have total respect for the Wednesday fans and i would love to see them back in the prem! As for Rooney, One of my favourite players to wear a MU shirt, I hope things turn around for him soon, In my opinion i think he should have worked under someone like Arteta did under Pep, Under someone who's evolving to the modern game in where it seems to be heading now. At the end of the day it was the first game of the season and we can't judge a performance on that as Wednesday look a good side. Rooney Rooney Rooney 💪 LEGEND!!!

[@khalifamitchell]

@3:57 Graeme Souness defo smokes the loudest pack at home. He was handling that tissue like a real yard man 😂

[@marcpaully9768]

Wayne is doing great now at plymouth and has the fan base fully connected,what have you got to say Mr Jordan

[@cyberdog1162]

Rooneys a great manager, never trading on his name alone

[@achatwithalex474]

Thing is he’s got jobs on back of his playing career. If he’s serious about improving, become an assistant, take on a much smaller project. Otherwise you’re just disrespecting role of manager if you think you can pick it up as you go

[@Kass-m5w]

Good pundit and knowing the game doesn't make you a manager who knows how to manage a game tactically, how to inspire. I heard that they played a 442 and they have NEVER played that system. He should have concentrated on making his team hard to beat, defence first. With Birmingham he told his players to play out from the back from the get go. They had never played like that before and he took a winning Birmingham side and turned them into a losing side.

[@wayneshone3471]

He must be skint because it’s borderline embarrassing

[@michaelwards7974]

The same was said by the Birmingham manager. Before he managed a game.

[@Thenightmarewillendsoon]

As a footballer Rooney was sublime but that doesn't automatically make you an ideal manager when you retire. Does Rooney lack man management skills or does he lack the ability to train the players properly? He needs to be an assistant or coach under a proven manager for a few year's to learn where his clearly going wrong

[@Gunn27]

Graeme Souness wanted Scotland to give Ukraine a bye through to the Euros as it was “the right thing to do”. When Rangers played Dynamo Kiev last night in the Champions League qualifiers………he didn’t want such a thing 🤔🤔🤔

[@akerfeldt4068]

Surely the basic prerequisite to being a manager, is to be able to string a sentence together.

[@esorkinc4011]

😂😂😂

[@dave-jk6en]

Erm

[@adrianbennett3761]

You always learn more from defeat than a win. Hopefully he’ll learn and ensure Plymouth progress.

[@mikewilson8513]

Well you will have plenty of defeats with Rooney in charge. We are in League one because of him. (BCFC fan)

[@dorualex3092]

what a player Rooney was but yes as a manager its far too early to judge him, ofc he needs experience and even after he gets experience I dont know if he will be good manager, difficult to say, same for Lampard, Gerrard and so many other legends

[@absoluteacw]

Wayne should have done what John Terry has done. Stay out the light and learn the trade and work upwards gradually.

[@mirkokraovac9068]

The three panelists and all commenters seem to be personally invested in rooney’s failure. At least they admit the personal agenda in the end.

[@olifors7047]

If you are an owner of a club you can hire whoever you want, but I truly do not understand the whole thing about hiring ex great players, thinking they will by default turn into a great coach. Probably dozens of managers out there who would deserve such a job, but Rooney has a name and will go first in line, even if his win rate is horrible.

[@garyh1572]

Bryan Robson was the worst. Terrible,terrible manager.

[@paulos1878]

All the exposure makes every managers job tough and novice managers are written off so quickly or questioned by bottlers that wouldnt manage a team. Straight away gives players a get out clause and a reason to give less to the team.

[@The_wulf89]

He literally said the same at Birmingham blame the players and deflect from his own bad coaching skills

[@scottp4547]

Were Plymouth any good last season? I like Rooney, talks a good game but management just doesn’t seem for him

[@ashwilliams4959]

Much better than this. That was arguably the worst ive ever seen from plymouth even when we were in league 2. It was very England esque but without the magic of a Bellingham, kane etc A bunch of players sent out to play vs a drilled, well trained and tactical side

[@crypticfox6389]

15 points from the last 15 games .

[@scottp4547]

@@crypticfox6389 so they were awful before n expecting the Rooney name to drag them up the league

[@KTopics]

They were very lucky to avoid the drop over Birmingham. 1 or 2 more games and they would've dropped instead.

[@NoahBailey-v3e]

They finished 21st last season so the answer to your question is NO they weren't

[@brummyboy6858]

As a Birmingham city fan i have to agree he was terrible for us wasnt much better in America and lets be honest with all that was happening at derby he was alwasys going look hero for staying but it was liam rosenior doing most training not rooney

[@davidsykes2616]

I feel so sorry for the legend of Graeme Souness to hear dribble coming out of Simon Jordan trap

[@KTopics]

I feel a bit for him because hes clearly dedicated. He getting the stick and the abuse. He has no need to do it hes extremley wealthy but he clearly cares about becoming a manager. I think hes just the kind of person who can't stand staying at home doing absolutely nothing. It can really affect people when they feel redundant after being right at the very top. Look at gary speed. I hope wayne finds where he wants to be in life. Perhaps just not in management.

[@kennygordon7505]

Also to date he has never made any new signings, no transfer sums have been provided.

[@ianparsons7673]

Give him a break

[@dubsy4835]

Although Rooney was appointed well before the Euros started, he chose to spend his time as a pundit on the tele..! Perhaps that time could have been better spent on the training ground..??

[@timewithoutconsequence]

I really like the underdog Plymouth. I’m just confused with this decision. Crazy Whitaker is still in the squad.

[@jacklong9619]

Underlying data? Birmingham were too 6 when he came in, bottom 6 when he left

[@martinlong4891]

Rooney is clueless, has a terrible track record and will prove to be a dumb appointment by Plymouth. At least come Xmas he will be able to enjoy an extended holiday period with his family. Another of the England stars of days gone who thought he could go straight into high level management without an extended period as an assistant learning how to coach from a skilled mentor. As a Villa fan, glad to see Souness recognising that Barry Bannon ran the show - I watched the extended highlights (not the full game). Bannon is a very tidy footballer, with an excellent footballing brain and talented feet. His passing and vision can be Cowans-esque at times. A joy to watch. O'Neill never gave him a real chance at Villa. At 34yo he is in the autumn of his career. He will be a jewel for Wednesday this season. Best of luck Barry (and Wednesday).

[@adambartlett6277]

Simon Hallett is a very good owner. He's had an absolute catastrophe here though. Hopefully he chops Rooney and quick so plymouth can rescue their season

[@leesunited3327]

You can't knock Rooney for taking risks. No job seems to be beneath him, unlike say a Lampard or Gerrard who are not willing to learn the hard proper way for fear of poor exposure.

[@seyance9820]

But you can knock the idiotic ownership for letting him anywhere near a football team, he's clueless.. Won't last the season and probably dooms Plymouth to relegation, great.

[@leslieaylett5375]

I don't particularly like Simon BUT he is absolutely correct about Hallett.... He is solely to blame here. He has not learned from his mistake with Foster last season....WHAT owner employs a manager with a record of less than 25% win rate?????? He has invested well at Argyle and I respect him for that but he has f****d up with this...

[@TristanSmart]

Paul Merton's let himself go. Hahaha

[@Rosco-P.Coldchain]

😂😂

[@sam.horgan35horgan33]

Funny cu.t..😂

[@severinlourenco8355]

4 nill, not good enough for Rooney or Plymouth 😮.

[@ashwilliams4959]

The results 1 thing but I'm more worried by the performance. No tactics, no idea what they're doing, no press, no organisation, no style of play. My guess is Rooney either can't coach or spent far too long on holiday and hasn't actually trained the team yet

[@robzombie5928]

23% win record in management is a bad record across multiple teams.

[@mjay1714]

On a serious note…..Rooney looks worst to wear of all the retired footballers, he needs to look after himself 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@stephenbutler6819]

I'm a birmingham fan and Plymouth you are in for a nightmare your chairman must want to play in league 1 or why else bring him in he's a terrible manager blames the players the fans the board you name it but himself

[@mbalinkosi5198]

These teams never learn...they keep giving Ronney management posts

[@scottwalker7831]

The owls were really good - that needs factoring in

[@ozjob]

😂 when Simon has a go at Andy Burnham for not taking his call and getting on the show about Everton. Yet Simon runs away from Rooney 😂

[@kennygordon7505]

He has indeed got balls, and his playing career showed he has the ability to handle pressure.

[@saab2906]

Barry bannans still playing that’s crazy

[@craigdoc6656]

Who does give Rooney credit as a manager? This isn't exactly groundbreaking

[@BubblesBelfast1]

Rooney the manager n calls out his team in public like he's on match of the day.......letting himself down having eyes on Gary Linekers job

[@seankinsellasean]

The best team lost on the day Plymouth bossed that game 🔥

[@TCPH]

Rooney is only continuing to be a manager to stop himself from drinking and cheating imo. Probably Colleen's idea...

[@jameswhite6561]

Anything united related with lord Jordan, wasn't so quick to put Lampard and Gerrard down...

[@robwilliamson6181]

Heard he got Real Madrid relegated on football manager aswell

[@dublinsfaircity]

The only good thing about Rooney as a rubbish manager it keeps him away from the Sky punditry circuit. Insufferable to listen to. God love the Plymouth players.

you are being very harsh to Wayne after one game. This is pathetic . Talk about hammering someone before hes had a chance. Shame on Talk Sport . This needs to stop.

[@ashleyburns6752]

Wayne just needs to keep playing attacking football, get Plymouth relegated, then he can land the Dortmund job.

[@fatbelly27]

If the big defeat in his first match was predictable, so is Simon's reaction.

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Rooney is doing what Lampard should have done 😊

[@jakehillman5164]

Give the bloke a chance ffs

[@jtmmmm27]

If your making excuses for new recruitment before they start you have employed the wrong person.

[@Rivelino824]

Don't they have the lowest budget in the league. Just staying up would be a success.

[@grahamorgan6909]

He’s never going to be a football manager and he needs to go asap before Argyle are in the depths of relegation and the fool who employed him needs to resign.

[@bobafett1]

Rooney cannot be given any credit for his managerial career as its been a disaster! At work, whatever role you do, your performance is judged by your ability to meet the requirements and achieve your objectives. It's exactly the same whether you drive a bus or manage a football team - there is no difference! To date 2 relegation, 1 let go by DC..........if anyone wants to give him credit for that them they need a check up from the neck up! Come on Graham, you were one of footballs hard men, in mgmt your passion was unquestionable.........

[@WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck]

Why would anyone give Rooney credit for his managerial career...?

[@stubrown7766]

Let the disc jockey have his say.

[@nickywass]

Cheers Eddie hearn😂😂

[@herpsmaltwatta]

He didnt call him back like

[@mervynpeters]

Simon Jordan failed football owner. Now crushing other people 😅😅😅

[@andypandy4607]

I know so unfair. Rooney is a class manager and was brilliant at Birmingham

[@olifors7047]

I really don't understand this argument. Are you only allowed opinions if you are success? Just because you failed as an owner doesn't automatically mean everything you say is wrong or bullshit. He is there to give his opinion on things, and he is pretty knowledgeable even if his time at Crystal Palace wasnt the greatest.

[@amem2937]

Failed NO he just didn’t wanna pump Millions into a club that was struggling.Hed already lost 100 Million and to lose it you have to have it in the first place

[@hms9891]

Imagine thinking you’re unique by bringing up the “failed football club owner” jibe. You complete and utter knuckle head

[@esorkinc4011]

Rooney holding up the tradition of failed ex Man Utd players turned coaches. Ole has been the most successful of the poor bunch yet they continue to criticise other managers in public forums 😂😂

[@lfcspectre4335]

Lord Simon & Souness = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts

[@lfcspectre4335]

@@MW92. Legendary Jordanite MW = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

[@davecurrie8404]

Is that Jim Dale on the left??

[@royalhero4608]

Frank and Rooney lurking around the managerial world still despite their records.... what on EARTH do owners see when hiring them???

[@dorualex3092]

they hire them cus they are/were legends as players, also they are people with personality and not like lets say potter or southgate

[@jasonday7378]

Great player but the guy clearly doesn’t know how to manage a club lol