Simon Jordan & Stefan Borson BOTH FEAR Chelsea WILL Face FFP Charges Next Season 😱 | talkSPORT

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Simon Jordan and finance expert Stefan Borson reveal why they expect Chelsea to face FPP charges next season.
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@parmaman8551
@parmaman8551 Ай бұрын
Former Man city advisor calling out Chelsea but not City imagine my surprise
@TheMrClutchy
@TheMrClutchy Ай бұрын
It’s annoying when people know facts that you don’t like isn’t it
@InvaderZim742
@InvaderZim742 Ай бұрын
@@TheMrClutchy except he doesn't know the facts. As usual he is completely guessing what will happen in the 23/24 period.
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor Ай бұрын
​@@InvaderZim742The facts are that Chavski have openly admitted to breaching the rules, and City haven't. I know that makes you Chavshit fans uncomfortable, but I'm afraid that's the reality - you *will* be punished in future seasons.
@macca9320
@macca9320 Ай бұрын
​@InvaderZim742 he knows more than me, You and 99% of other fans. You lot read headlines and think you know better.
@lawrence5841
@lawrence5841 Ай бұрын
The charges aganist City and what chelsea might face are completely different
@garygoyles9305
@garygoyles9305 Ай бұрын
Spoke so quickly for the whole time, gets too city and starts floundering 😂
@dylanb.117
@dylanb.117 Ай бұрын
Strange definition of floundering
@Daniel-cx6zw
@Daniel-cx6zw Ай бұрын
@@dylanb.117it’s spot on. He’s just a shill for citeh
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын
​@@dylanb.117 complicit
@chelseagodfather
@chelseagodfather Ай бұрын
Amazing really. I just posted same 😂😂😂
@alexburrows2835
@alexburrows2835 Ай бұрын
He didn't flounder funny how Simon was quiet when he chatted about Chelsea soon as city comes in he interrupts like an idiot
@QuicknStraight
@QuicknStraight Ай бұрын
Jeez, this guy Borson is doing his best to dissemble about City's allegations. He used to work for City, so how can you believe anything he says about City? If the contracts are not shams, simple for City to just produce the contracts, rights?
@user-rp7iu7ds3f
@user-rp7iu7ds3f Ай бұрын
When the 115ers were mentioned, I think his wry smile said it all!
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Ай бұрын
What contracts? They have access to all of Citys Financials. Whats he been wrong about? It's funny we should take lfc and utd supporter journalists and what they say about the case even though they aren't experts right?
@afckajjansi
@afckajjansi Ай бұрын
facts!! it's been a year. The reason Simon disagrees with taking too long is bc he's a former owner and knows they're just buying time to pay off everyone, nothing to do with producing evidence. What exactly is missing? Call for the hearing. They can bring their evidence and the prosecutors have theirs too.
@aaaaab5909
@aaaaab5909 Ай бұрын
or as the legal process requires, simple for the pl to prove that the contracts are shams, right?
@Pugh.Pugh.BarneyMcGrew
@Pugh.Pugh.BarneyMcGrew Ай бұрын
The longer it drags out the higher the fine, because clubs that they beat by cheating can honestly say that if they had won they could have bought better players, won more the next year and so on. You can't unravel 5 years of that for every club in the league. You just have to do a Rangers and send them out of the league. There is no amount of money they could pay to compensate everyone. And quite frankly anyone involved in it should not be allowed to work in football again.
@Littledunc1
@Littledunc1 Ай бұрын
Based on what Stefan said about City, Chelsea should just keep breaking FFP and taking on more charges so it takes even longer for them to be punished.
@17scottymufc
@17scottymufc Ай бұрын
That's what will happen if they get off with it, every owner in the league will use their other businesses to filter money through the clubs, will become a shambles of a league
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 Ай бұрын
chelsea have admitted to the breach under abramovic city deny all allegations there is the difference
@ifldiscovery8500
@ifldiscovery8500 Ай бұрын
FFP is not what breaches are for City its the false accounting which EPL has to prove.
@alazarashine7834
@alazarashine7834 Ай бұрын
Where the hell did u hear that🤣
@nishchaychauhan8814
@nishchaychauhan8814 Ай бұрын
You don't understand English mate.
@DarrenMac-yk2gd
@DarrenMac-yk2gd Ай бұрын
We need to see Manchester City 115 charges sorted before anyone else is charged
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Ай бұрын
That's dumb. Thry aren't facing the same things. Forests, chelsea and evertons books show they've not met the profit and sustainability rules. Chips meet the rules. So we should ignore every other breech for the next 2 years then punish them after the fact? The clubs that get relegated and would have stayed up woukdnt be fair on them.
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 Ай бұрын
How is it fair on anyone in the EPL if City are not held accountable? If they’re not guilty of anything; what’s taking so long? If they are guilty; what the f* is taking so long? It’s a complete farce at this point.
@drdassler
@drdassler Ай бұрын
Don't be so keen to show how clueless you are.
@drep9028
@drep9028 Ай бұрын
Worry about your own club. See...so many thought it's easy to just spend money and win because that's what City did...no it ain't. And now it didn't work out for your club...you on a witch hunt? Sad
@andrewbrogan2499
@andrewbrogan2499 Ай бұрын
No let's focus on cheating Chelsea
@duncan2858
@duncan2858 Ай бұрын
Teams should get another automatic 2 points deducted if they appeal and fail.
@TristanSpow
@TristanSpow Ай бұрын
Luckily you are nowhere near our legal system, stay to brick laying bud
@duncan2858
@duncan2858 Ай бұрын
@@TristanSpow and you to toilet cleaning.
@TristanSpow
@TristanSpow Ай бұрын
@@duncan2858 nah I’m studying law currently
@hustler666100
@hustler666100 Ай бұрын
thats ridiculous to say when we found out they made a mistake in Evertons case.
@nothanks3236
@nothanks3236 Ай бұрын
@@TristanSpow Considering the low opinion in which lawyers are held worldwide, I'm not sure that's a valid comeback, mate.
@Orhams
@Orhams Ай бұрын
Borson quick to analyze how Chelsea will fail FFP but so defensive of his former side with 115 charges.
@Daniel-cx6zw
@Daniel-cx6zw Ай бұрын
He’s a 🛎️end
@joeservice1968
@joeservice1968 Ай бұрын
Spot on
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU Ай бұрын
He’s still towing co line
@kenny6055
@kenny6055 Ай бұрын
Being paid still by $350B owner
@AruRomulo
@AruRomulo Ай бұрын
​@@Daniel-cx6zwlet's fight
@johnpaulreed4862
@johnpaulreed4862 Ай бұрын
U could tell Stefan was on man City payroll the way his tone changed and the way he was speaking the charges against city are a hell of alot more serious than just ffp breaches.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Ай бұрын
City from 3 owners ago.
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 Ай бұрын
lol he is ceo of a floated company on aim thicko
@johnpaulreed4862
@johnpaulreed4862 Ай бұрын
@@thedean4431 okay. Hostile much
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor Ай бұрын
We already know that. What's your point? Chelsea have admitted to wrongdoing.
@drep9028
@drep9028 Ай бұрын
Fact...City guilty or not didn't affect the performance of other clubs. Other clubs should take their responsibility into their own hands. At the end of the day...breach or not..City utilize their spending waaaaay better
@lovejoy3347
@lovejoy3347 Ай бұрын
City getting away with this whilst others get penalised is like people going to prison for not paying their licence fee whilst the mass murderer who killed 125 people is still out on bail as they have to amass all the evidence against him. How can you run an orderly society with ethics and clear favouritism like that?!!.
@kc8923
@kc8923 Ай бұрын
Look at the current Govt and the way theyve run the country for the last 15 years, fits in perfectly!!!
@mikeymums
@mikeymums Ай бұрын
This dudes energy totally flipped once they started talking about city. For Chelsea it was good luck, for city he was defensive. Hilarious
@yt.personal.identification
@yt.personal.identification Ай бұрын
In 2014 Man City were found guilty. After that, they continued to amass alleged breaches of rules without remorse or respect. Getting caught once is one thing. Continuing after being found guilty is a qhole different thing. Yes - the 2014 was UEFA not PL, but it goes to intent.
@Daniel-cx6zw
@Daniel-cx6zw Ай бұрын
Borson having this weekly fear mongering about Chelsea meanwhile his former club face 115 charges is hilarious icl
@thedean4431
@thedean4431 Ай бұрын
he says it how it is chelsea went cap in hand and said they have found a breach simple and there spending is disastrous now
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter Ай бұрын
@@thedean4431 Great point and he can't argue that point. Hence, he has not replied to you
@williamrobinson4253
@williamrobinson4253 Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. They haven't got anything on Chelsea and never had.
@Daniel-cx6zw
@Daniel-cx6zw Ай бұрын
His entire spiel was about hypotheticals. even he said last year he didn't see them getting a profit of 142m. He's just chatting shite as usual. Should spend his time discussing the 115 CHARGES against his club @@thedean4431
@callummarson9479
@callummarson9479 Ай бұрын
@@MCFCTheMadHatterwhat Borson very quickly glossed over was that they got it wrong that Chelsea breached 22/23 but now they’re apparently completely correct that they’re going to breach 23/24 season. So if they got the first bit wrong how can anyone trust what they say next is true haha
@christophersalmon863
@christophersalmon863 Ай бұрын
A city u to worry about. Chelsea hasn't even being charged. Pure speculations an as u say assumptions.
@TheFlyingmind1
@TheFlyingmind1 Ай бұрын
Borson will face the music when the city scam is announced.
@QuentinMajor
@QuentinMajor Ай бұрын
So, never, then. Enjoy relegation, btw.
@afckajjansi
@afckajjansi Ай бұрын
He needs to be sued for accomplice
@Adamjames123
@Adamjames123 Ай бұрын
Why what's he done
@juz882010
@juz882010 Ай бұрын
you seen the lawyer gang city got? they up to like 50 now.
@alistairsmith5389
@alistairsmith5389 Ай бұрын
Meanwhile Lance Armstrong FC laughing at us all 😂😂😂
@17scottymufc
@17scottymufc Ай бұрын
Why go on there and speak properly about Chelsea, and when city comes up get all defensive and narky. He knows they're dodgy, just say it
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Ай бұрын
What's City got to do with the Chelsea situation? There's no point talking about City because nothing has changed from the last time they spoke about them. And nothing will change for at least another year.
@nivzb18
@nivzb18 Ай бұрын
City’s situation is an allegation, which requires investigation and Chelsea’s situation is much more factual.
@InvaderZim742
@InvaderZim742 Ай бұрын
@@russellward4624 so what's the points in constantly talking about Chelsea? Nothing has changed since the last time he did and he's just guessing about what's in their 23/24 accounts anyway. Interesting how he never mentions the massive reduction in their wage bill though.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 Ай бұрын
@InvaderZim742 because it doesn't change anything. They still need to sell players. But I agree there's no point talking about Chelsea either until the season finishes and we see how successful they'll be at selling players for profit.
@InvaderZim742
@InvaderZim742 Ай бұрын
@@russellward4624 the whole point being that only Chelsea know how much they need to raise by selling players. They're the only ones with access to their bottom line.
@jdj8798
@jdj8798 Ай бұрын
I could be mistaken but I thought I remember a report saying the deal to buy Chelsea included a clause that 1bn would be invested into the playing squad
@bartley7953
@bartley7953 Ай бұрын
I never hear in the case of Chelsea the sanctions and embargos they were under before and during when the club was sold ? , surely this will have a huge affect on their revenue and profit and loss on the accounts in terms of FFP .
@user-xt2ge1qy7c
@user-xt2ge1qy7c Ай бұрын
No guilty
@ifldiscovery8500
@ifldiscovery8500 Ай бұрын
Chelsea is also being investigated for 2003 2012 2019 periods for money laundering.
@InvaderZim742
@InvaderZim742 Ай бұрын
it was already accounted for in the financial period when it happened. That was 21/22. Don't think it has any bearing on the 23/24 period.
@nathanhenry7692
@nathanhenry7692 Ай бұрын
@@InvaderZim742 It did in terms of not being allowed to renew player contracts and having no licence to sell players.
@InvaderZim742
@InvaderZim742 Ай бұрын
@@nathanhenry7692 that was 2 years ago though. How is it still affecting the club this season?
@polyglot8
@polyglot8 Ай бұрын
Simon perks up at the edge of his seat when this bloke talks financial matters, more than he ever does when they talk about the footballing that occurs on the pitch.
@mierezsaturday5855
@mierezsaturday5855 Ай бұрын
Fearless and spot on comment.
@IanDavis-fs8dd
@IanDavis-fs8dd Ай бұрын
Why can't Simon let people finish their sentences?
@Jedstop
@Jedstop Ай бұрын
He can’t stand the thought of someone smarter than him so he has to try and prove they are not .
@trudieyeates2955
@trudieyeates2955 Ай бұрын
How long have you got ?
@boxthorncutter2804
@boxthorncutter2804 Ай бұрын
He's a narcissist.
@BaldricksTurnip1
@BaldricksTurnip1 Ай бұрын
Forest fan here,Man city and Chelsea will get away with it,the stench of corruption is gut wrenching and nauseating 🤮
@Ricardo-ur5os
@Ricardo-ur5os Ай бұрын
They’ll probably get charged but it will be a laughable charge in comparison to the breaches
@spark556
@spark556 Ай бұрын
Cry more 1x League Title FC 😂
@adamross1992
@adamross1992 Ай бұрын
Everyone please bookmark this video for next year - this dude has been fear mongering about Chelsea for months now and every Chelsea journalist says no worries about any breaches - at this point Stefan should never appear on TalkSport again if he's wrong
@JMEcooper
@JMEcooper Ай бұрын
Yeah and defends city like he still works for them
@jamesbrowne7601
@jamesbrowne7601 Ай бұрын
@@JMEcooperHe used to work for them & is a City fan
@drep9028
@drep9028 Ай бұрын
Fear mongering was when all these clubs thought that City were going to sign Rooney, Cr7, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Van Persie, Fabregas+ a dash of Ronaldhinio and Canavaro and storm the league. They thus created these shady rules and now look very silly. That is my theory anyway
@JMEcooper
@JMEcooper Ай бұрын
@@drep9028 the rules do tend to favour the more historic clubs slightly but they are there for the greater good. Trouble is in football it’s difficult to know who to trust now and that is sad
@Lioness_UTV
@Lioness_UTV Ай бұрын
​@@JMEcooper I have a slightly different POV, I think historically football has always had under the table deals, has always cooked the books. The FA for instance in decades past used to take a high percentage of the gate receipts from all the grounds not caring that this left football clubs barely able to thread water. Interestingly this was one of the main reasons why the FA campaigned to get women banned from playing football and for 50 yrs they got their wish. That's just one story of many of the FA's backdoor dealings and if anyone thinks that's the past and not now only have to look at the FIFA bribe scandals, UEFA I have no doubt is similar. And now City are doing their best to string this out and for some reason the FA doesn't want anything to be public, they want privacy aka secrecy, why I wonder 🤔
@derrickwinter9737
@derrickwinter9737 Ай бұрын
Stop blaming Manchester City for your own clubs failings you silly little people 😂😂😂💯obsessed
@JeffWhelpley
@JeffWhelpley Ай бұрын
I mean...yes, Simon and Stefan are likely right about all of this BUT I think even they would agree that IF Chelsea do manage to raise profit before June 30th, then they will be fine. IMO they can definitely raise 100m profit by that deadline if they need to (i.e. 35m Maatsen, 28m Hall, 40m+ Gallagher all already queued up). It would be MUCH more difficult if they need to raise more like 200m profit. If their gap truly is that large, then I do agree that they are going to fail. So, the real issue with Chelsea isn't that they need to raise money before June 30th but moreso how much money they have to raise. 100m, no problem. 200m, they are in trouble.
@afckajjansi
@afckajjansi Ай бұрын
facts! cfc will just sell gallagher, chalobah and broja. City are buying time to pay off prosecutors. NOthing to do with "defend themselves".
@TheMrLjupce
@TheMrLjupce Ай бұрын
If they put the money from the mount transfer for the previous season can’t they do the same for players signed after 30th of june also?
@lesjay6267
@lesjay6267 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure this guy was on TalkSport a few months ago speaking about Chelsea failing FFP for 2022-23. 😂
@zareefosman7767
@zareefosman7767 Ай бұрын
He’s a bum without a job in finance anymore. Hence why he’s on talk sport 🤣
@nathanj8849
@nathanj8849 Ай бұрын
He spoke about Mason Mount transfer kitty being put in 2022-23 to adhere to FFP, but it means they start this current season in deficit. Listen again, bc he didn’t contradict your statement, he clarified how Chelsea got around it!
@goonern4644
@goonern4644 Ай бұрын
City can kick the charges down the road forever without being held accountable, but he's already predicting Chelsea's punishment a year in advance. Nice to see, he's impartial.
@jackhoskins722
@jackhoskins722 Ай бұрын
115
@peterkirk123
@peterkirk123 Ай бұрын
Points deduction for Chelsea next season
@Zippy-ey9xu
@Zippy-ey9xu Ай бұрын
An ex City guy defending his old employer - surely not!
@afckajjansi
@afckajjansi Ай бұрын
the way he blatantly finds excuses for city but trashes chelsea and the rest just tells you everything. Time? time to pay off all the prosecutors i guess. been a year. call for the hearing.
@richardjames3356
@richardjames3356 Ай бұрын
8:29 That smirk from Simon..
@williamlima8489
@williamlima8489 Ай бұрын
Shame chelsea sold mount and kai havertz to Al-hilal.
@MJ-ip7oj
@MJ-ip7oj Ай бұрын
Exactly, this guy is an embarrassingly blatant shill.
@john-bu6su
@john-bu6su Ай бұрын
is there a detailed list some where i can read the 115 charges?
@Petersworld77
@Petersworld77 Ай бұрын
Google it
@lukelocks9083
@lukelocks9083 Ай бұрын
When the screen came on, I thought WTH is Douglas Murray doing on the show!
@spark556
@spark556 Ай бұрын
They will be severely punished. They have until June 30th to gain 200mil but the problem is.. transfer window opens July 1st. They are done.
@lonewar1
@lonewar1 Ай бұрын
When are the Refs and VAR staff going to be investigated... Qatar treated them to 5 star trips and paid them a fortune... then by coincidence all decisions seem to help Man City this season...
@jamielane6829
@jamielane6829 Ай бұрын
Theres also a spondership deal this year that didn't exsist pre the mount sale, thats worth more than his sale. Seem to have just forgotten about it :D
@steve13191
@steve13191 Ай бұрын
Sums up pep guardiola. For me this guy should never be considered as one of the greatest coach of all time. His resume : doping as a player, bribing referee with barcelona even though he had messi xavi iniesta busquets even ronaldinho and henry. 115 charges. Everywhere he goes he cheats. Barcelona won ucl before and after him, bayern won league before and after him, city won before him. Yet media painted him as the good guy and jose was the bad gu few years ago😂
@Ken-yy9us
@Ken-yy9us Ай бұрын
As an Arsenal supporter, I would love to see the facts that you are claiming. Why, if all you say is true, haven't FIFA, UEFA, LA LIGA and the PL acted? It's all a load of BS even, as an Arsenal fan, I would love it to be true and proven.
@ainthubertsvlog610
@ainthubertsvlog610 Ай бұрын
"For you "😅
@7th.trumpet
@7th.trumpet Ай бұрын
Talksport, missed a perfect opportunity here for laughs ! They should've had Danny Murphy on and zoomed in on his face as Borson says "So Danny, whats your opinion on what I've just said ?". 😂😂
@adetayoadesola7306
@adetayoadesola7306 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@cubemubarik9196
@cubemubarik9196 Ай бұрын
😂😂this guy looks like mr Bean
@timmurray6890
@timmurray6890 Ай бұрын
If he was their finance guy does that make him Mr bean-counter
@thebritishbushman8389
@thebritishbushman8389 Ай бұрын
Simon interrupting to summarise what Stefan is saying, by talking as much as Stefan!! 😂. Great ‘summary’ Simon! 😂😂
@general_foodie9211
@general_foodie9211 Ай бұрын
Camera quality 👌🏼 👏 🎉
@seanhorgan5380
@seanhorgan5380 Ай бұрын
Well i presume everybody csn this coming from a mile off. It's only a matter of time before Chelsea are charged. If they dont get Europe next season its going to be a very difficult years ahead for Chelsea
@andywilliams8540
@andywilliams8540 Ай бұрын
think i can speak for most fans when i say i hope they throw the book at both chelsea and city
@garethjenkins6273
@garethjenkins6273 Ай бұрын
Not going to happen. They are scared of the big 6 teams - ok Big 5 + Sp*rs. Quick to hand out punishments to Everton and Forest. City's case is scheduled to be heard in May - 2074.
@BigFno.8
@BigFno.8 Ай бұрын
Is there anything CFC can do to ensure whatever point deduction happens this season? It's a lost season anyways and even a 10 point deduction will not result in relegation
@jackmurray7022
@jackmurray7022 Ай бұрын
nope, the finance breach isnt official yet, like chelsea can still get out of it if they raise 100m profit in the summer, so it will be for next yr the point deduction
@BigFno.8
@BigFno.8 Ай бұрын
@@jackmurray7022 thanks
@JohnRowland-ec5dr
@JohnRowland-ec5dr Ай бұрын
city need too look into simon Jordan dealings
@mcdamiananoruo6199
@mcdamiananoruo6199 Ай бұрын
Stop waffling when it comes to Man-City
@Gas_615
@Gas_615 Ай бұрын
Hope so 🙏🙏🙏
@advitiyasharma9420
@advitiyasharma9420 Ай бұрын
Yeah we heard that last year dude and nothing happened
@thomasgrant8074
@thomasgrant8074 Ай бұрын
Chelsea didn't break FFP rules last year.
@lesjay6267
@lesjay6267 Ай бұрын
​@@thomasgrant8074 Yes, exactly!!
@terwasevictorsesugh3902
@terwasevictorsesugh3902 Ай бұрын
Why the obsession for CFC? Boehly goes to Saudi Arabia, it's an issue. Some English club sold to Saudi Arabia more than CFC no problem for them.
@cgray8267
@cgray8267 Ай бұрын
Ya but the owners didn’t fly out there and meet minister for sports
@DJ-yu9gk
@DJ-yu9gk Ай бұрын
Oh so you cant keep spending billions and finishing 10th? 😂
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 Ай бұрын
I see Villa have made losses of £120m for last season !!!!
@abebe5017
@abebe5017 Ай бұрын
They complied fully with PSR. After allowable adjustments, they came in around £13.5m under the £105m cap. So what's your point?
@andrewholdsworth4421
@andrewholdsworth4421 Ай бұрын
Villa are in order . Corruption is ripe. But villa are not part of it
@andrewbrogan2499
@andrewbrogan2499 Ай бұрын
Forget villa let's get back to Chelsea
@cgray8267
@cgray8267 Ай бұрын
@@andrewbrogan2499ya 😂
@thomasbrammer6228
@thomasbrammer6228 Ай бұрын
villa will be fine they sold 2 home grown players archer and ramsay to sheff utd and burnley
@jonmorris1999
@jonmorris1999 Ай бұрын
Cucurella + Sterling £168m done deal to al ittifaq in the summer what's the problem
@lilbaz8073
@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын
That would be about £40m profit. Still need to find a bit more. Players from the academy when sold are pure profit, so their whole transfer fee will count. That's why they are talking about selling chalobah and gallagher.
@theloneranger9520
@theloneranger9520 Ай бұрын
Why don't they just simplify it. Because there is so much money pumped into the Premier League, no club should be allowed to make a loss. So for up to every £5m loss each year, the club will be deducted 1 point. That means if a club loses £30m it's 6 points deduction, £50m it's 10 points deduction, £70m it's 14 points deduction, and so on. This will force clubs to reduce the outrageous wages that they pay players and reduce the ridiculous amount spend on transfers
@kenroyforte6175
@kenroyforte6175 Ай бұрын
Look until the books are inspected, this is mere speculation
@jensonank2409
@jensonank2409 Ай бұрын
Does he ever take off those man city specs..?
@justinmagagani8835
@justinmagagani8835 Ай бұрын
These guys are clowns. They did not take into account for the fact that not all operating expenses in the Accounting losses eg youth team and womens team expenses are are not taken into account for FFP..
@lilbaz8073
@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын
They have taken it into account.
@leebeckett5152
@leebeckett5152 Ай бұрын
Doesn’t have to take a long time it has to be a reasonable length of time
@parmvirvirk8959
@parmvirvirk8959 Ай бұрын
So the EPL wanted to keep it quiet as did City which sums up their title of '115 charges Bought and Paid for FC'. Sheisters the lot of them.
@Jedstop
@Jedstop Ай бұрын
How will any team try and compete with the big boys if they can’t get someone in willing to gamble and spend big. If you can only spend a % of what you make no team can come up and compete.
@robcollett6312
@robcollett6312 Ай бұрын
Well sounds like just go on spending money so there's more charges and by the time they get round to building up a case and going through every single wrong doing the world won't exist anymore 😂
@hemantgadar8314
@hemantgadar8314 Ай бұрын
Mark Goldbridge said it perfectly Have an anesty U think that is only chelsea or city cooking their books?
@Petersworld77
@Petersworld77 Ай бұрын
Not everyone is a crook or cheat. Goldbridge wants the slate wiped clean for Utd because they have spent so much money on dross in recent years it’s preventing them from buying new players now.
@creasicle
@creasicle Ай бұрын
Stefan on Chelsea 'I don't have the figures but Chelsea will make a +£100M loss' Stefan on Man City 'I haven't seen the evidence but the allegations are unprovable and the Premier League have been collosally stupid taking on a case they can't win' 🤷🏻‍♂️
@danielthomas9259
@danielthomas9259 Ай бұрын
Are the premier league rules regarding ffp changing next year to be based on revenue instead?
@jeffduckworth94
@jeffduckworth94 Ай бұрын
Why have Everton and forest been docked points now and not city and chelsea
@lilbaz8073
@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын
Maybe watch the video. Just an idea. It might inform you.
@MarkChandler-fb1fm
@MarkChandler-fb1fm Ай бұрын
Not sure who is getting paid off from PL and City to keep this bs going on and on. How much time do they need?
@user-wd1eg2bn7t
@user-wd1eg2bn7t Ай бұрын
This financial guy is awesome. Need to keep him on. So insightful.
@kevinlemon6537
@kevinlemon6537 Ай бұрын
Why is there no asterix against Man City in the league table ???
@londonsfinest6070
@londonsfinest6070 Ай бұрын
When you need to reduce the loss for the financial year, just move transfers around before or after the 30th of June, whatever suits you better Todd ;)
@seanbonella
@seanbonella Ай бұрын
About bloody time
@FaithRomero-ms5kq
@FaithRomero-ms5kq Ай бұрын
Strange how the smaller clubs are getting point deductions this season ,which will problem get them relegated, The Big boys are getting there cases heard next season ?
@jeffduckworth94
@jeffduckworth94 Ай бұрын
Corruption
@carlossus4973
@carlossus4973 Ай бұрын
Ask Leeds what you'll get for your players when all other clubs know you need to sell!
@kc8923
@kc8923 Ай бұрын
Even during Abramovich's time with his money from dubious sources Chelsea had some great players and teams. They now seem to be involved in suspect financial arrangements with no clear identity or success on the pitch.
@fensolo9694
@fensolo9694 Ай бұрын
His defending of the city case somehow makes me feel like hes involved somewhat! 🤔
@TheFergo911
@TheFergo911 Ай бұрын
I always said that football cannot run with as such excess spending. There are too many players in every team such that paying over 10 million in annual salary is not a possibility when close to half your players are already making close to 10 and above. It cannot be sustainable unless accounting principles are altered in order to make it seem like an organisation is better than it is.
@razorman1977
@razorman1977 Ай бұрын
His approach Chelsea and other clubs is well they will mostly like face the punishments. Come to man city its all about give them time. I feel he is very protective of man city..... could it be he used to work for them.... hmmm interesting. 😂
@BigDom61
@BigDom61 Ай бұрын
I agree with Simon for once it’s a disgrace it’s taking so long
@OfficialFA
@OfficialFA Ай бұрын
WE WILL FIND OUT IN DUE COURSE, THICK SKULLS DON'T GET IT..?😂
@garyflynn4780
@garyflynn4780 Ай бұрын
That smile on his face when city brought up 👊
@klivegee
@klivegee Ай бұрын
What a load of BS from Stefan Borson re Man City
@superflyjimmysnucka9068
@superflyjimmysnucka9068 Ай бұрын
Boson's bottom is twitching 😂😂
@BritishRosie-es3zr
@BritishRosie-es3zr Ай бұрын
Nobody is talking about football - just money, unfairness, greed, corruption and incompetence. What a great sport.
@magicaces13
@magicaces13 Ай бұрын
How can he say this is nothing to compare regarding chelsea and FFP. For that matter everton and forest. The basic claim is they actually got less income in effectively meaning they made more losses than was shown. And so got away with spending more on players. Where is the points deductions for City and Chelsea? There won't be any.
@lilbaz8073
@lilbaz8073 Ай бұрын
Think you need to rewatch the vid. Chelsea aren't in breach. Citys case is totally different. It's about fraud. Not just by them, but deloitte (the worlds biggest accountancy firm) their sponsors and the abu dhabi royal family (who litterally have assassins on their payroll). Much more serious, harder to prove and potentially could lead to an investigators death. So they are being a bit more careful with it.
@sie4431
@sie4431 Ай бұрын
If Chelsea's turnover was £435M, £481M, £xxxM for 21-23 and their losses were reportedly -£153.4M, -£121.3M and -£90.1M respectively. However the panel point out that they can't have had combined losses of more than £105M otherwise they would have been charged in December 2023. It's been pointed out that not losses count for P&SR, we don't know what their losses are under PS&R. Chelsea earnt an estimated £93.6M from the CL alone, if all else is equal that'd give them a turnover of £495.4M and a loss of -£183.6M. They will get a little more because they'll finish higher and had a better run in the domestic cups but even with that and flogging some players they're surely going to be restricted in what they can spend in the very least and the same would be true in 2024/25
@robdatta8767
@robdatta8767 Ай бұрын
If Everton, Forest, Leicester, and Chelsea face points deductions for essentially a handful of breaches if even that (and in the case of Chelsea, self-reported by the current owners), then Citeh should have all of their titles stripped. Let's not forget that the 115 was arrived at after whittling down the original list. Chelsea, Arsenal, United, and Pool should be given those titles instead.
@owensterrell
@owensterrell Ай бұрын
Love how Simon tries to imply City is keeping this secret. Stefan corrects him. And he just keeps rolling along his narrative.
@rageowens
@rageowens Ай бұрын
ok now it makes more sense with this stefan guy because he worked for city lmao i get it now
@fullmetalalkami6466
@fullmetalalkami6466 Ай бұрын
4 point deduction to Chelsea won't make much ofvb a difference from 11th to 12th.
@backupdancer3720
@backupdancer3720 Ай бұрын
This is what modern football has become... Only 20 years ago it was about managers and players...Then RA buys Chelsea and it's about owners, agents, managers and players... The legacy owners (most of who have sold their clubs or saddled them with debt) cried about the spending of RA, and later Abu Dhabi... Now football is also about owners, lawyers, consultants, accounts, revenue and profit... I work in finance, and football is now like going into the office.
@superflyjimmysnucka9068
@superflyjimmysnucka9068 Ай бұрын
You're looking through rose tinted glasses!! The team who spends the most money has usually won the league! You can look it up!
@backupdancer3720
@backupdancer3720 Ай бұрын
@superflyjimmysnucka9068 Is this a reply to my original comment? If yes, it makes no sense/has no relevance to my original comment.
@garyh1572
@garyh1572 Ай бұрын
It went like that as soon as football sold itself to Sky in 1992.
@johndavies1097
@johndavies1097 Ай бұрын
There you have it in a nut shell from Peter Moore.....we bought Liverpool because we were told that FFP was in place to protect our purchase and earnings. But instead let's deflect everything onto City the only club that has fought against FFP/PSR all the club's who are now being penalised by it you only have your board members to blame, they voted for it to protect the top 3 cartel.
@John-ok8ts
@John-ok8ts Ай бұрын
Even if Chelsea get a 10 point deduction it will make no difference. They aren't winning the premier league or getting top 4 and are finishing 10 points above relegation. A bigger problem for Chelsea is just like Everton this is the gift that will keep giving.
@user-qs8xc4ni6f
@user-qs8xc4ni6f Ай бұрын
Man talked about chelsea with confidence then when it comes to chelsea starts waffling nonesense. These people are a disgrace
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 Ай бұрын
Read what you wrote again
@kazziemarks9397
@kazziemarks9397 Ай бұрын
@@BirdLives7😂😂
@Jcshh
@Jcshh Ай бұрын
Let Boehly cook the books
@yeahthelozgaming
@yeahthelozgaming Ай бұрын
And they damn well should
@neshnesh4633
@neshnesh4633 Ай бұрын
Chelsea must sell Caicedo to Liverpool. That's it
@Dodgers-sw2uk
@Dodgers-sw2uk Ай бұрын
What a nightmare these owners have been. Absolute nightmare
@alexdimech4121
@alexdimech4121 Ай бұрын
“Fear”
@peterj.farnsworth2606
@peterj.farnsworth2606 Ай бұрын
Why are you fearing it????? It's OBVIOUS
@christophersalmon863
@christophersalmon863 Ай бұрын
What's ur point. Cause if u say they sell players by the 30. Ur point wouldn't make senses
@paulnsno7198
@paulnsno7198 Ай бұрын
I would love to play poker with this Stefan guy!
@thebritishbushman8389
@thebritishbushman8389 Ай бұрын
Anyone else feel that Stefan is ‘protecting’ his own previous involvement when at Man Cheaty? 😂😂😂
@l33lob
@l33lob Ай бұрын
Yes 100% has a very protective opinion of a situation that UEFA have investigated already and would have done them for if it was not for the time bar
@TP-pq9xx
@TP-pq9xx Ай бұрын
He left in 2008
@spooksspooks3365
@spooksspooks3365 Ай бұрын
Liverpool was hacking into city youth setup . Peter the Great 😂😂
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