Simone Biles versus Paul Juda. Who did the Yurckenko Double Pike better?

At the 2023 Core Hydration Classic only two gymnasts performed the Yurckenko Double Pike. Who did it better and why? Vote below.

[@NSXlover18]

Simone lands with her chest up and Paul has a complete 90 degree angle bend when he lands. Simone wins in my opinion

[@poshbo]

Not a fair comparison since in MAG low chest landings are not deductions, unlike in WAG. Men have much more mass in their chests compared to women so their centre of gravity is higher up the torso, making a low chest landing much harder to avoid and the COP accomodates that. Yurchenko entry vaults are also rare in MAG as most men go for Tsuk entries which better utilize their upper body strength

[@liukin95]

@@poshbo Was about to say the exact same thing. Men carry more mass than women, so landing upright is actually very hard for men.

[@user-lg7np7fz7j]

Simone Biles

[@anabmdq]

Simone...🎉

[@NSXlover18]

@@liukin95 I think the point of the video, regardless of how hard it is between sexes and their differences, is to compare the SKILLS and how they are executed. Side-by-side Simone has clear advantages to Paul, in my opinion.

[@luvnatexo]

It’s crazy that Simone also did an even better one during warmups at that same competition!! she’s absolutely incredible

[@wesowen6624]

She stuck it 😳

[@SquirtlePower809]

Yeah I was so lucky to be there in person, front row to witness this magic. She is just a mythic legend lol

[@ismaelpedroza7918]

Yeap!!! that warmups vault was just amazing

[@blakegillpuente3904]

For me, Simone takes it because even more importantly than her landing being more controlled: her block off the table is so much greater than his is. It's the same as the Maroney/Uchimura comparison from 2012. The WAG's vault table is *LOWER* than the MAG's table is, so for a woman who is also shorter herself and who has much less muscle mass in her upper body to make contact with the vaulting table at a lower height and *STILL* generate the power necessary to overtake the male gymnast's altitude in the same skill is *incredibly* impressive. Simone's block, flight, and landing were better (same as Maroney's vs Uchimura's in 2012), so for me- it's a very easy, very clear winner in the side-by-side.

[@SquirtlePower809]

For sure! Her block angle is probably the best I have ever seen, you can draw nearly a straight line between her hands on the table and her feet!

[@StewNWT]

Agreed

[@TY-gj6fb]

and gracefulness my eyes just gravitate to watch simone because it looks more gracefull in my opinion

[@eventhoughimaloserandavirg3279]

The landing is harder for the guy. He has a lot more force going downwards than Simone biles

[@blakegillpuente3904]

@eventhoughimaloserandavirg3279 The difference in force due to gravity would be negligible, comparable to the difference in gravitational force acting on each of them when they do a standing back tuck. To say doing that is harder for the guy would be stupid. The force of gravity acting on them is exactly the same (9.8 m/s²), the only difference is their body mass and the starting point of descent to the mat (and Simone's was slighter higher, adding to the length of acceleration downward). Besides, even if that were a significant difference, Paul also has more overall muscle mass and larger bones to absorb and brace for the impact- he *should* be able to handle it better, the same way a German Shepherd would handle jumping from a ledge 5 feet in the air better than a Chihuahua. Nobody with common sense would say it was harder for the German Shepherd to land it.

[@GonzaloGarcia-pr1pt]

BILES: more height (even though the vault table is literally lower than the men's vault), more distance away from the horse, better chest position, slightly more controlled landing. Couple things that Duda handles better: better pre flight from the springboard to the vault table ( no leg separation ) and has a centered landing, both awesome but on this vault, biles is better.

[@yeewei-tn2wf]

Paul was higher.

[@cy_lanix130]

@@yeewei-tn2wfyou couldnt be able to tell since the camera angles werent the same

[@user-yq3pe6no3r]

FACTS Simone Hands down

[@erinm9445]

@@cy_lanix130 Paul lands later than Simone, even though their blocks are synched in the video. Therefore he gets a bit more height.

[@spamgarbage6999]

Simone is lower than the men height wise so the vault table being lower is inconsequential

[@kellymaganti7765]

Simone 100%

[@normacherylwashington4872]

She is more powerful in her gymnastics than anyone else and she is small so she looks like a ball of power in the air!!!! The G.O.A.T!!!!

[@luminousmoon86]

They both did well, but Simone got her chest up way faster than Paul Juda.

[@liukin95]

I don't know one male gymnast that lands with their chest up. They aren't deducted for that like the women simply because men carry more mass in their upper body, it's harder for them to land with the chest upright.

[@Yarotska101]

@@liukin95 there's no deduction for chest position, but they still have to extend prior to landing. They're allowed to dip their chest to absorb, but they have to open up prior to hitting the mat. Otherwise they can lose up to .3 on vault. He didn't appear to open up at all prior to landing so internationally, they might be inclined to take the .3. Also, because a lot of people get confused on the matter, WAGs do not have to land upright, they simply have to land with the chest/face above hip level to avoid deduction. They're also required to land with their shoulders and knees in line for even distribution of impact.

[@anniekendall7369]

😂

[@TxHoneyBee]

Simone wins by a long shot, whih just shows how incredible she is. I am in aww. I am wowed. My sense of reality is changed forever. Simone is an inspiration to me and so many girls, women, and all athletes.

[@SquirtlePower809]

She is truly magic!

[@marjorjorietillman856]

I can do it too, but I don’t wanna show off. 😂😂😂

[@theendangeredpetrolhead]

Ugh… relax lol it’s almost as if people like you think she is Jesus

[@TxHoneyBee]

@@theendangeredpetrolhead She is the best of WAG, and you weirdos will just have to cry to your daddy about it (if you even know his name...).

[@theendangeredpetrolhead]

@@TxHoneyBeewhen did I ever say she’s not the best of WAG? I’m pointing out the fact that diehard Simone fans literally think her gymnastics has no flaws, and that’s simply not true…now go cry to your daddy about it kiddo, later✌🏽

[@collinsgreenlee1673]

Cool to watch it synchronized like that!

[@ernestcelestine5428]

Biles had more height and a higher chest position upon landing. Juda has no pre-flight leg separation and is center on the landing mat. Both are great tbh.

[@dr.kettelydoxy880]

Blessings! Of course, Simone did very good, her precision on the table was on point also she was very confident . We are very proud of you ! Keep doing what you do best! 🙏🏿♥️

[@jrthegymnasticscoach]

Thank you all for watching and commenting. This video is done with 100% appreciation of both these athletes.

[@racheltrammell7843]

The sport would not be as fun w/out them😂 Serious😊 ❤❤❤❤

[@lmw716]

Simone was definitely more controlled. Yeah, she had a big step, but she didn’t need her arms out to stop herself from falling, so she did it better. In the air they both executed it the same.

[@arathgomez172]

Both have good pop off the table, good form in the air. Simone’s landing was more controlled. The dude needs to bend his knees a bit when landing. He’s landing with straight legs which is bad for your knees and back. Simone lands with knees bent which loads her legs, and not her back and knees.

[@janicelewis3744]

Simone hands down! She is such a powerhouse!

[@MikeFlash09]

That one is pretty close between the two of them as they both took a fairly big step back to the right. Simone Biles looked a little more controlled on the landing so if I was giving the execution score Simone Biles - 9.7 and Paul Juda - 9.4 as another person said Simone had a near flawless vault in warm-ups that as close as possible to a perfect execution of the Yurchenko Double Pike Vault as I could imagine. Simone Biles is truly an amazing athlete that is pushing the sport of women's gymnastics to new heights, even now seeing a number of the elite athletes in Women's Artistic Gymnastics are actually women in college through their mid-twenties instead of previous though of women artistic gymnast were at their peak at 16 years old. Good to see the sport advancing for the better.

[@Appaddict01]

They’re both excellent.

[@tambam6744]

Simone

[@jordansefton]

Simone’s block is better for the lower table, Jude’s legs arguably look straighter in the pike shape but he flexes his feet earlier/more noticeably than Simone and his landings are worse. I understand what the MAG brigade were trying to do, but this vault wasn’t comparable to Simone’s and it’s actually detrimental to their argument. His vault was beautiful, but not good enough to try and put Simone down in the process…

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

Biles. Better landing, more height, seems the form is a bit better in the air.

[@brownbronxbaby]

Simone 💯!!!

[@paristhedog264]

BILES!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!!

[@whatreallymatters571]

Its one of the hardest skills to do so they both are extremely talented athletes no matter what but going off of form and landing simone definitely takes the cake.

[@michellebwilson2610]

Paul has a bit more amplitude but Simone’s landing is better. Tough call!

[@TikiTorcher]

I think she’s higher. The women’s vault is already lower and the side-by-side here isn’t level.

[@nellingwood2]

His legs are farther apart than hers on the landing. As far as execution I didn't notice much difference in the air but these flips are so fast I don't know. Simone because of the landing. Even at half speed, they look about the same; hers looks like it gets more height but that could also be because she's smaller it just looks that way.

[@SheLiaGoodRum]

Biles. No one should try to minimize the hard work this young lady puts in. This is the only athlete thus far that continues to compete against her former performances.

[@s-p-man5271]

Just because a woman did the skill, a man does mean so much for the females. We must acknowledge that Biles has taken gymnastics to another level where it was not before. Simone is the winner in the above question.

[@Demetri450]

It's just a gymnastic skill!

[@s-p-man5271]

@@Demetri450 Yes, it is, but it was more common in males, and Simone accomplished something done by a man and performed it better.

[@all_mine1233]

sheesh stop comparing women to men. it just a skill

[@s-p-man5271]

@@all_mine1233 It is not. Simone surpassed the skill of a man and was even better. Is that what bothers you? The truth may set you free, but first, it will piss you off.

[@all_mine1233]

@@s-p-man5271no, what bothers me is that this has nothing to do with a man vs a woman but 2 people who have performed this skill almost perfectly and we are deciding who did it better in terms of execution. not to mention that this skill was created by a woman.

[@netolee1702]

Wow!! Simone is the best

[@ithomas101]

I saw their execution scores (these vaults have different difficulty scores in M vs W). Simone earned a 9.6 and Paul a 9.3. This does not include any neutral deductions.

[@MikeFlash09]

Hey, I was pretty close with my non-gymnastics estimated execution scores of 9.7 for Simone Biles to 9.4 for Paul Juda. Nice, I must be paying attention after watching the sport for a long time, having a high degree of appreciation of the difficulty of the skills from a Biomechanics stand point as an Exercise Scientist and Biomechanical Engineer. I have even tried to do some men's gymnastics exercises in my own training session such on the rings an Iron Cross, Front Lever and Back Lever, and hand stands on the parellel bars even being elite track and field sprinter and fitness trainer/strength and conditioning coach they were extremely challenging taking many attempts to perform with minimal to moderate technical success. I have a lot of respect for the athletes in the sport of artistic gymnastics as they level of physical athletic ability and body control as truly amazing.

[@racheltrammell7843]

SIMONE BILES😂 ❤😊❤

[@tishad5418]

The level of next level greatness you are ,when a male athlete is all they can compare you with and you are hands down the winner of the comparison she is truly the GOAT

[@GhostofMrsMuir1443]

The answer as to why Simone can do these things is not because she’s the GOAT. Simone is transgender.

[@tishad5418]

@@GhostofMrsMuir1443 your mother's transgender

[@homie309]

Simone🎉

[@MyAccountForCommenting]

I don't want to compare. So much talent.

[@maricresmiranda1198]

Simone🎉🎉🎉

[@bfitzy123]

simone

[@Bxyxox]

Simone for sure

[@susancanavespe5217]

Simone!

[@Daniel-ec1et]

100% Simone

[@AuntieKnowsKitchen]

I just love watching gymnastics, I like them both😂

[@dianaosteen693]

In the absence of a slow motion clip, the major impression I got was that Someone's step after landing was not as large (both stepped out of bounds and had 3/10 deductions for the step itself). I may be slightly biased, but I have to give it to Simone for overall impression. The clips were beautifully synchronized though.

[@nandeeshgs8476]

Undoubtedly Simona only

[@user-fy7fw4cx2w]

Simone looked better

[@Oswald_Thatendswald]

Looks like Simone got a cleaner landing on that one, but I'm willing to bet both of them can do that vault better than how they did it there.

[@cynthiawilliamson5905]

They both were very very close, but I think she might be a couple points better on her landing

[@freddycooks]

They were very very similar. His chest is much lower, with slightly wider step, but he was more centered. She had slightly better control. I think Simone edged him out in execution by no more than 0.2 because he was pretty much bent at 90 degrees on landing.

[@benbailey159bb]

If you watch in ultra slow mo they were both 90° chest she just straightened up quicker.

[@freddycooks]

@benbailey159bb Even at half speed, looks like she's closer to 45 ° to me and looks like he ready to take a poo. 😁. Just kidding. I'd mark her for -0.1 and hit him with -0.3. but it's all subjective, I suppose. In real time, they are comparable.

[@melaniekozak1220]

They’re also valued differently-16.6 for the women, 15.6 for men, if I recall correctly. Plus Simone had a 0.6 neutral deduction for her coach being on the mat. I agree with you otherwise-they’re both mind blowing vaults!

[@freddycooks]

@melaniekozak1220 Yes, I that's why I discussed execution instead of difficulty. Indeed, both are phenomenal.

[@terezo1241]

What song / instrumental is playing in this video?

[@cebrogan01]

both incredible but simone for sure💯

[@sunshine5138]

Even if Simone Biles stepped out of bouds and Paul Juda did not, I wanna say that she landed with her chest higher and her feet were less flexed 🙄

[@erinm9445]

They're both amazing and it's hard to choose. But I'm not sure why everyone says Simone got more height. The video is timed so that their blocks off the table are simultaneous, yet Juda lands a bit later than Simone does. Physicas doesn't lie, that means he had a bit more height that she did. They are both incredible and I don't think this makes Juda's better per se, but I am a stickler for accuracy!

[@nicolewilton1462]

Are you accounting for the fact that the vault table is set lower for women, and Simone is also considerably shorter?

[@tilmanrotationalinvariant2257]

@@nicolewilton1462 you are right, but you could say her shorter height and the lower table cancle each other out.

[@juliaheizmann3063]

She flips faster

[@francisnguyen6349]

Like Simone Biles is doing her excellent skills on Vault at double backward pike.

[@kimowilliams7032]

Simone’s vault is the best - no contest!!!! 🐐❤

[@user-yq3pe6no3r]

Pure FACTS FACTS

[@user-xo1ez8fc3w]

Amazing

[@bsmirh9021]

Simone for the win! By the way this was fun!

[@valauriepoyer9176]

Simone seemed a lil cleaner but I take my hat off to both

[@pedrocastro882]

Miss Biles!!

[@cooperbishop2426]

Hard comparison. during hand contact simones leg seperate more. Distance from table to hips it looks like simone takes it by a few inches. In the air Paul has a slightly tighter position due to his head being down more and having straighter legs. Both their chests are low enough to take a maximum deduction on it but Simones looks a bit higher

[@pakONEoh]

Simone! And, it's amazing that she seems to have more explosion than the guy, which allows her to have more rotation when executing the move

[@joni8343]

They Both Nailed the routine,for me it all camed down to the landing Simone was able to land with her chest and head high, i vote Simone

[@vangu2918]

Simone looks to be more in control througout, but hats off to both.👏👏👏👍

[@roxannekinnally4208]

They are both excellent gymnastics but for a woman it is more exciting to watch Great job youbg people

[@justice9094]

I think that just the fact that both athletes can accomplish this vault is exciting! Both are impressive but neither stuck the landing...yet ; )

[@jrthegymnasticscoach]

That’s exactly why I did this video. Not to compare man to woman or black woman agains a man. This is about a skill.

[@JRN007]

Biles

[@Casey485]

Let's break it down. PREFLIGHT - Paul, FLIGHT - tie... Simone had the height edge, but Paul's legs were glued together , LANDING - Slight edge to Simone... Better chest position, smaller step, although a bit off to the side

[@markcouture4726]

Objective and fair!

[@gojewla]

He nearly did a split when he landed and hers was a much smaller step. No, her landing was much more controlled.

[@MHouston602]

What made you give Paul the preflight edge? If you look at the NBC video, Simone’s block off the vault was incredible - how fast she got from the tramp to the table was unreal?

[@Casey485]

@@MHouston602 both are incredible, but Paul's legs were glued together from thigh to ankle. I am not saying Simone's weren't but aesthetically IMO Paul's looked better

[@Casey485]

@@gojewla agreed that Paul had a much bigger step but Simone's was slightly off to the side which in a judge's mind would make them question why. Was her block slightly not square? Was she somersaulting in a slight diagonal to the table?

[@sloams]

Both pretty much the same actually!!! Kudos to both of them!!!

[@cherrekareese2866]

They both did an awesome job by accomplishing the move altogether. No need to pinpoint who did this and that. They both did it best👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 BTW argue with yourself not me.

[@TD-iq1gk]

If Paul Juda did a triple, it would have mean something in the grand scheme

[@broycesinger8798]

Simone Biles

[@kolibri7712]

i’m a huge women’s gymnastics fan so i can fully appreciate men’s gymnastics but i will never get over how they keep their hands so stiff like that

[@shannonhail5597]

He was piked in the air better but she had chest up more in landing, was her height better of the table?

[@KenyanBunnie]

I'm always here for Queen Simone!

[@piscesgirl8563]

Definitely Simone!!👏👏💯

[@Kimberlyduncananddani]

Equally great but the man likely has more weight and he is taller he had a lot to change up for it to work. It’s hard to say who did it better

[@meganjoelyn2207]

I'm sorry...is this a question? Simone!

[@ZBGregory]

She landed higher and better landing, he had better feet and didn't go OOB. She had a better smile.

[@bernadettepotenti301]

they were both great but i'd like to see this vault with a stuck landing

[@shannonsmith5419]

Simone is a beast!!! Love you sweetheart Congratulations too you and your hubby!!💜❤️💜❤️

[@DJcyberslash]

Biles. It's harder for women to do this type of move anyway and she still kills it.

[@remohor]

Can you do this in slow motion, please?

[@wendyw651]

...just casually gets higher than him when her table is lower. #SimoneThings

[@sassyd8738]

I like his take off but simone won it as her landing was more solid than his both were beautiful

[@jonflanagin6682]

Both great , but who went higher.

[@lvlocalmusicguru]

weird but serious question why did the guy powder his legs? the feet I understand but why all of his legs?

[@jrthegymnasticscoach]

Usually a gymnast puts chalk on the body part they will be pulling. For his Double Pike he grabs around his calves and hands so he won’t slip.

[@JescaML]

Simone as she gets more height then even the other female gymnast do to achieve this skill.

[@BillyGym.Nastic]

Paul Juda 🙌🙌💪🏻💪🏻

[@patriciapickett836]

I think you have to factor a person's height into the equation. A taller person has to launch higher and still may have less air hang time to turn his/her longer body. That's partly why these tiny gymnasts are so exceptional. So I might give the guy the nod but they both are marvels.

[@rellrell9457]

Simone stuck the landing!

[@AMillian713]

Simone chest up, higher block, and more controlled THE END❤

[@tagordon6678]

Simone! More control of the landing. Didn’t use a cushion to land it, yes I know her coach was there but he did not intervene at all. When landing her step was noticeably smaller.

[@user-xo1ez8fc3w]

Crazy

[@ladyg1284]

Queen Simone!!

[@guadalupeeg5034]

They were almost like a mirror of each other, but I think she landed better, her landing was a bit more composed.

[@jrthegymnasticscoach]

I agree, but I am biased. I love Simone

[@guadalupeeg5034]

@@jrthegymnasticscoach Hers was better!

[@amazinggrac7]

simone’s toes are pointed while the guy’s are flexed.

[@giahyatt1142]

SIMONE SIMONE SIMONE!!! ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊

[@stephaniefoster1964]

Simone, I think. She had more speed going in and recovered faster from the stepout. Since he's sooo much taller, he doesn't need as many steps to get to the springboard, so he doesn't build up as much speed before starting the vault. 🤔 jmo But, that male gymnasts and Simone are doing that vault is. awe-inspiring! In the end, they put her name on it, so... she wins!!!🤗👊👏

[@xtlm]

It's so close I really don't know. Both even messed the landing the same way lol

[@speaktruth9989]

Simone jumps higher she’s amazing

[@DurrellLeGrairMusic]

Let's just start with the fact that we are comparing a man to a woman in such a physically demanding sport. This just shows the levels Simone has surpassed. And on top of that, hers is cleaner. So boom 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@michaeldelguercio339]

The GOAT !!!

[@gloriavanhof1403]

I vote for Simone. Better landing in my humble opinion.

[@palhacavitimista3203]

Wow, Simone!!!

[@willie417]

I'm curious about who did you think, people was going to say did it better?