SIMP DM Makes Girlfriend Main Character In DnD

[@andreavasquez4355]

I was expecting Artist and her boyfriend to blow up in the first story, but it ended pretty well. I wouldn't say it's a horror more than it is an awkward story.

[@TitorJaraba]

I've not really played D&D before and I always wanted to. Some of these stories makes me afraid to put myself out there. I can be a bit socially awkward at times, but I don't mean any ill will. I could see me getting excited and doing something silly. Stories like the first story makes me feel like I shouldn't try. I don't want to end up in one of these stories just for getting excited at something. Some stories are really bad, but others just sound like social awkwardness or miscommunication without ill will. If people call that a horror story, idk.

[@neckermangames5872]

@@TitorJaraba I honestly had a similar feeling before I started playing D&D with some online friends of mine, I was afraid that I'd become a 'that guy' or something else, but if keep those fears keep us from experiencing the things we want to try, then we'll likely miss out on a lot of fun stuff. While I can't guarantee you'll never end up in a horror story, the best advice I can give you is to try the game out and if you ever feel like you might be heading in the wrong direction, ask your fellow players and/or dm if they feel the same. If they do, then you caught it in time, can prevent something bad from happening and improve yourself, and if they don't feel the same, then you're in the clear and can keep enjoying this amazing game we call D&D!

[@Sl4wt3r]

Story 2: I'm sure OP wasn't rustled by the sudden alignment change as opposed to the entire world having a passive Detect Evil ability suddenly going. Also, I'm a firm believer that even DMs are not immune to and sometimes deserve a "Think very carefully. Are you absolutely sure you want to/want me to do that?" Also, also: That One Player can mind his own business or come to a compromisewith OP. If it wasn't for OP delivering a dose of That Guy to the campaign, That Player would have actually been the problem. Story 3: "Fairies can't be bad" The Leanan Sídhe and the entire court of Unseelie fae:

[@shinigamisway1645]

That was my first thought too. Granted by the end of story we could tell that the fairies had something done to them and that's why they were hostile . But my first thought went to the fact that in one of the campaigns I used to be a player in, The Queen of Air and Darkness was a villian. And she would very much like to have a word with the "all fairies are good " concept

[@Sl4wt3r]

@@shinigamisway1645 To be absolutely fair though, Queen Mab would probably convince us mere mortals that our definition of "good" just isn't broad enough for a being such as her. The Redcap she conveniently has one of her agents lead to OP's doorstep would be more than willing to correct the misconception, though 😉

[@aquicandaquak822]

I don't think I've ever had a smile fade faster from doge staring at me to the op mentioning the ball fondling.

[@unluckyone1655]

First story; yeah, I totally understand being super excited about someone you know playing D&D, especially if its been a while since you played (hard relate dude, moved to a new place and its been 2 months and have yet to find an open group taking in new players so have been settling with playing a bare bones dungeon crawl at the LGS), but the polite thing to do would be to first ask if there is room at the table first before handing your character to the DM outside of the game. But DM was generous with offering one shot options, which is a great idea for the rest of the group to see how well the guy meshes with the group without compromising the regular campaign. 2nd story; nah barb is definitely playing chaotic good to a T. I play my chaotic good death cleric similarly. She is nice and amicable to people (leaving most of the talking to the more diplomatic warlock) and ruthless to her enemies. (There is a joke ongoing argument between her and the warlock over necromancy, warlock seeing necromancy as pure evil no matter what vs she seeing it as a tool to meet one's ends, as long as its done ethically ie no souls involved ((thats the gods' domain)), just reanimated bodies and laying them back to rest when you are done w them) 3rd story; as a fellow dog mama of two rambunctious beagles, even I'm squicked out. Bro theres a difference between loving your dogs, and then there's, um, whatever that is... those poor dogs. Perhaps someone should call the Humane Society on this creep 4th story; fairies/fae can't be evil? Ummm dude clearly has never read lore on fairies nor read the real mythos. Fairies can be good but they are tricky and can resort to doing whatever needs to be done to get their due and it could range anywhere from simple mischief to straight up murder. Also red caps are fairies, and they um, are not very nice to say the least. 5th story; you know what Doge said all that needed to be said there.

[@johnschroeder163]

Story three -By the All Father's missing eye! Your ( our humble narrator's) reaction to the doggie dude is what make these posts priceless!

[@asteriondeltoro124]

Doge needs an adult. :) Also, fairies can't be evil? Somebody needs to play the Pathfinder CRPG, Kingmaker. Though, on the other hand, Monk wasn't necessarily wrong. IRL, you sometimes see news stories like "Brown bear mauls two people", and when you dig into it, it turns out the real story is more like "Mama bear defends her cubs from two drunk idiots who thought throwing rocks at bear cubs was a hilarious idea."

[@vegeta002]

Anyone who says fairies can't be evil needs to be introduced to fairy tales, they weren't called "the fair folk" out of affection.

[@RiveroftheWither]

@@vegeta002 Yeah, whether it's from actual lore (Celtic, Welsh, Scandinavian, etc) or the lore from things like d&d, the Fey are playful, mischievous tricksters at their best and manipulative, hedonistic sadists at their worst... This guy need to watch or read something other than Peter Pan.

[@asioca1992]

1st Story: Honestly, I don't really consider this one a horror story per se, but only because the other guy came off as overeager more than anything else. Then again, I think that OP handled it about as well as they could've and it sounds like they weren't opposed to playing with them overall, only that they didn't want to invite them to their current game, which is entirely understandable. 2nd Story: I agree that OP probably should've talked it out rather than going full on murderhobo and I agree that his personality sounds more CN as opposed to CG, but at the same time, forcibly changing someone's alignment without consulting them beforehand is a pretty bad faux pas and I believe this is the second time that I heard of a game imploding due to forced alignment shifts. At least the situation got resolved, but it's one of those situations where it could've easily led to a worst outcome for everyone involved, though the fact that it only happened because another player felt as though the shift was warranted was pretty annoying. 3rd Story: Was OP playing with Kero the Wolf? Seriously, what possesses people to do stuff like this? Seriously, leave, it's not worth it. 4th Story: I dunno what sort of backstory reason this guy had for reacting this way but it feels like an instance where that guy was getting in his own way. It's clear that the faeries were acting weird, but he kept insisting that faeries wouldn't act like that, and just kept hammering the point home even though that was the point of that interaction. Thankfully it's just a oneshot and all, but seriously, that guy sounds seriously annoying to play with. 5th Story: It's always rough when you're in a campaign where there's clear favoritism going on, it's even worse when it's in regards to SO's. Unfortunately, there really isn't anything that can be done about this situation besides talking things out and hoping that the GM gets the message but more often than not, it'll either change nothing or just ramp up out of spite. Hope for the best, but have an exit strategy in case the worst ends up happening in the end.

[@KugelBlitz0]

Story at 7:00 Great way to weaponize "It's what my character would do!" haha

[@arcaderat1613]

Doge has to be scared after reading about the guy too into his dogs.

[@blesper3415]

The player in the second story sounds like they might be a problem player without realizing they are a problem player. It also seems that group needs to sit down and have more discussions with each other.

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

The OP in the second story already had the barbarian, and I'm quoting here: "he liked to see his enemy suffer, killed them in a brutal way, liked to beat the shit out of captives that didn't want to cooperate, etc." Before I go on, let me be clear that I'm not excusing the DM's actions either: talk to your player. Everybody suddenly becoming hostile or standoffish because of an alignment change that just happened? Dude, at least have a bunch of villagers stand clucking around like hens, whisper-yelling to each other: maybe about some villager who was out hunting who saw "some crazy dude who looks kinda like that barbarian over there, BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF A CAPTIVE." Or something, I'm just spitballing an idea here. As for OP, dude could've talked to his DM and the two could've worked something out, then maybe continued on with his character as is. Not like there aren't evil motherfuckers who hide behind being nice - nice doesn't always mean good... but OP decided to go Chaotic Stupid.

[@Theokal3]

"Fairies can't be evil" the True Fae from Changeling the Lost, the Fairies from Dresden Files and the Elves from Discworld would like to have a word.

[@vegeta002]

Fairies from real world fairy tales would like to have a word, they weren't called "the fair folk" out of affection.

[@Captaincory1]

I'm only two books into the Dresden Files, but the first book makes them out to be whimsical and childlike, not necessarily evil

[@littlegiantj8761]

adding "mean, big-tittied sorceress" to the list of edgelord joke character ideas

[@andrejg4136]

"Mean(/Evil) Big-Titty Sorceress/Wizard" was practically a trope unto itself in the fantasy anime boom of the 1990s.

[@joshpiotrowski3487]

Best character ever

[@kevinchong5424]

Poor doge, having to read that story for our amusement

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Third (the dog) story: "Run Doge run!"

[@lasmirandadennsiewillja9435]

The only time when it's okay to say "Playing with the balls" in the context of a pet is when those pets are ball pythons. In that case, ballsy puns are encouraged.

[@RiveroftheWither]

I work at a doggy daycare and we do sometimes make jokes about dogs balls but not like that. It's literally never sexual because that's just gross. We just joke around about it because unneutered males can be a real hassle in an area with 20 other dogs. The jokes are to kinda burn off some of the stress caused by constantly having to police this dog from trying to hump or trying to pick fights with the other boys. They're harmless little jabs like "We need to tell Nelson's parents that he lost his kiwi privileges" (set a date for him to be neutered or he might get kicked out for his bad behavior) or "Jack was just standing next to Bella awkwardly, trying to get the air pregnant" (air humping next to females like a little weirdo) That guy was just sick.

[@jakezula]

i agree with you 100% about the second story. the character op described was NOT chaotic good and the way they handled the whole thing was just really petty and clearly made other players uncomfortable. i'm glad you also highlight stories where the OP was in the wrong lol

[@rynowatcher]

I am surprised the group continued to play with the guy after they did a passive aggressive table flip by going full chaotic stupid.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

Yeah, the moment he started saying all the nasty things he liked to do "but only to bad people" I winced, that's chaotic neutral verging on evil at the very least.

[@rynowatcher]

@@Michaeljack81sk I mean, sounds like a "greater good" argument at best. Every evil person in history had "good goals" in mind when they did bad things. Chaotic Neutral seems to be more in line with sometimes you kill a prison because they are not helpful; sometimes you let them go because you feel sorry for them. I do not see any mercy or empathy (good) with this character, just cruelty with a good excuse.

[@Pyrrha312]

Second story, OP describes how their char is chaotic evil, acts in chaotic evil manner and gets hit by consequences (detect evil is a thing by a paladin guild). Then they are surprised about this and decide to take revenge by overstepping boundaries.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

@@rynowatcher Can't really argue with that, like a lot of shitty people today go looking for "Acceptable Targets" to bully, harass or attack while taking the moral high ground

[@HardlyBardly]

The amount of visceral expressions on my face from this sequence of stories has made me resemble a Muppet. I have gone from facepalming, to laughing, to abject horror. WTH was even that third story?? Why would...that poor OP and those poor dogs, like wtf. Doge, blink twice if you need help.

[@karrastheraven6361]

for the dog-story: your avatar just seemed so shocked and somehow, as concerning as i think this story is, i love the expression of sher horror XD

[@neckermangames5872]

I really hope that third story didn't traumatize you too much Doge, but I'd understand if it did.

[@thanatosvorigan4986]

Doge. As a DM, you shouldn't have to be told to not change a character's backstory behind their back because another player said so. The DM should have known better and is obviously not the "Talking" sort. Doing the "malicious compliance" trick was the way to go as talking it out would just be a waste of time or even cause the DM to make things worse. They were certainly not going to listen. Also, why did you say that OP went full murderhobo? Nothing in that story mentioned killing random people. And yes, you can kill people (even brutally) and yet still be a good person. It's not about what you do, it's your intent.

[@viennasavage9110]

The story about the guy with the dogs hit a little too close to home, huh Doge? XD

[@breegrimm7142]

I don't think anyone could enjoy anything as much as cats enjoy those squeezy treats!

[@hatchet-ears4192]

On the 2nd story, I disagree with the whole "OP should have talked it out instead of being a murderhobo" since the player that triggered the alignment changed 1) went behind the OP's back to have it done and 2) was unhappy with it getting changed backed afterwards, I dont think talking it out would have accomplished anything (but I'm also a very pessimistic person so...). As I see it, this was a "actions have consequences" type response. The instigating player and DM did a thing and then they had to deal with the consequences of their actions, the DM basically brought it on themselves for even going with the alignment change without talking to the OP about it.

[@awesome19ssbb]

third story: get the fuck away from him now, no if no buts leave now.

[@MetaGiga]

In regards to the ‘fairies can’t be bad’ story... My prized character is a halfling sized chaotic neutral fairy that has a grudge against elves for their hand in making it so that fey can’t tell flat out lies. He once tried to make an elf drink a bottle of corrosive acid. He is not a saint. Other things he’s done include: - Call the rest of the party members his ‘bodyguards’ - Got arrested for disturbing the peace - Helped set a bridge on fire in the hub town - Makes racist remarks towards elves whenever possible Not to mention that fey are known to be deceiving little shits. If my fairy were in the same game as that Monk, he would be taken advantage of so quickly that he wouldn’t even know what hit him.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

I played a chaotic good fairy, as small as the DM allowed, who was such a glutton that she tried to eat all the monsters we killed and was so impulsive that she would pick a fist fight with some guy who just beat the party's monk in 3 rounds or would drink her bodyweight in wine on a dare. She only survived her shenanigans, because as a barbarian and the only partymember who did not dumpstat constitution, she was pretty much indestructible.

[@MetaGiga]

@Schwarzer Ritter Oh god, you mentioning that fistfight made me remember another thing my fairy did. Because he’s a sorcerer, strength was his dump stat with con being a close second. He was prone to having a kind of “I GOT THIS” kind of mentality nonetheless. When he was being arrested, he made attempts to punch the guards and failed spectacularly. Another time, he decided to join in a bar fight and try to punch our party’s tank, who was in *full armor*. It resulted in a little ‘clink’ on it. Also, he has no concept of how money works, so he spent nearly all of his starting gold on a fancy drink at a tavern and got so drunk that he started speaking the language Sims use

[@schwarzerritter5724]

@@MetaGiga Well, my fairy was a strength build (but could not actually carry that much, because of a penalty to carry capacity the DM gave me). The joke was she did not know it was her doing all the wild magic around her and thought that stuff is just normal.

[@codyschmidt510]

12:56 I recommend that player read some stories about the fae folk

[@TBTabby]

Imagine Mr. Fairies-Can't-Be-Evil reading The Wee Free Men.

[@AlexanderTF]

Well the alignment story, I'd say the DM was at fault for not discussing it with the player to begin with, but the player should have spoken up, but it does seem like that 1 player did want to manipulate the DM to push the other players to their prefered positions ... about the dog guy, I'm more concerned that the server admins hadn't done anything about it yet, they should have reacted before it even got that far ...

[@vortega472]

I love Little Lucky. Now Doge, don't be jealous - I adore you and your hat too - but the kitties do all the real work being all cute and all. ;) Yay! Lucky got his treat. Thanks Doge!

[@Michael-fd1gx]

Doge is better than Lucky.

[@williamyates7679]

Fairies can't be bad? I'm pretty sure in the original myths they were almost exclusively bad.

[@SirXer]

Lucky did a wonderful job today advertising the positives of the like button :). Towards the dog story, I cannot agree more with "get away. Get far, far away".

[@deepseastonecore3017]

How often do l make jokes about chemistry? Periodically.

[@StellaDraco]

As a GM whose boyfriend plays in my games... I have the opposite problem. I tend to overcompensate for favoritism to the point that I end up forgetting to include him sometimes. (I've been trying to fix this.)

[@WakoDoodle]

I think that dog guy needs help. Maybe it's a joke but the amount of detail he put into it suggests it isn't. He's clearly not right in the mind. I also worry about the safety of the dogs themselves. I've heard a lot of weird D&D stories but that one makes me feel sick.

[@JacobL228]

I think the guys who tried to change OP 2's alignment had clearly already made up their minds about the matter, so trying to discuss it out of game would have been a waste of time. Besides, they changed his alignment without discussing it, so why shouldn't he lean into it without discussing it, too?

[@maxoublue1]

I get it was more because of the Monk's backstory instead of any actual race stereotypes, but I would like to quickly remind people that fairies are sometimes portrayed as evil tricksters in certain stories and old folklores. In fact, one of the more well known tricks that they would do is to ask people to give them their names. If the poor sap decides to do so, the fairies will actually take their names for real, causing the person to, well, lose the name they just gave to them and your powers, or in some cases, cause the fairies to take complete control of you. It's just something to remind people that, despite modern depictions, fairies can still be mean and/or dangerous.

[@Inkubun]

2nd story IMO is a case of malicious compliance, dm rescinds player agency and player retaliated, eye fir an eye, 2 wrongs don't make a right for sure but I think it's even and deserved, and it sounds like things panned out alright.

[@theofficerfactory2625]

For every new subscriber, Lucky gets a treat so SUBSCRIBE! DO IT! For the kitty, please. Story 1: Here, let me shoe horn myself into your campaign and I won't take no for an answer! Story 2: I am inexperienced still to figure out on my own if this was right or not but I agree that OP should of talked it out before acting it out. Story 3: Uh... BAIL! BAIL! BAIL! Eject, eject, eject! Mash the emergency meeting button! Self ventilate! ANYTHING!!! Story 4: This is my world monk and I can do whatever I want! Also, it sounds like it was personal views or bias coming through into the game. Story 5: Here we go; DM/ GF bias. Nope; BF controlling GF story or not. This is just bad.

[@PaladinGear15]

Well that "For the dogs" story is gonna make me throw up x_x There's definitely something seriously wrong with that guy, like a legitimate form of insanity, no sane person wants to do anything sexual do an animal. Plus I agree with Doge, if there's even a chance he's being serious (cause he sounds serious) stay the heck away from that sicko u_u

[@jasa_TheRealOne]

I got into DND by overhearing my now best friend (not through this, just had shared interest and the same name) had a campaign to go to and I sheepishly asked if I could join. While I don't remember much about a the campaign or my character (other than he was a wizard who lived in the party's horse (kinda like a genie respite years before it came out). I'm glad they didn't turn me down. The biggest difference other than me having no experience is I didn't come with a character and a backstory and insertive personality.

[@Captaincory1]

I probably would've reported the dog guy to the ASPCA

[@dragowolfraven3806]

Oh great more Main Character Syndrome.Lucky sure loves his treats. 😊

[@Leppa10]

how many cats does he own???

[@tsifirakiehl4250]

First story: I question what was going on in the would-be new player’s head. His girlfriend got a commission to make a logo for a D&D party, so he saw that as an invitation for him to join it and approached the DM with a character? What the fuck? At least OP handled it well. Good on them for shutting this guy down politely! Second story: This was handled terribly all around. Changing another PC’s alignment without any input from the player is an absolute dick move, but OP should have responded by talking to them about it, not throwing a passive-aggressive tantrum. Everyone in this story has some serious apologizing to do. Third story: I really hope there’s some animal rescue organization that can help those poor dogs. There needs to be a hotline for people to call if they suspect animal abuse. Fourth story: This guy thinks fairies can’t attack people? My party’s rogue would like to have a word with him, as would the fairy barbarian I’m planning to play at some point. Fifth story: Those two didn’t want to play D&D with a group. They wanted some private one-on-one roleplay. Nothing wrong with that, but don’t drag other people into it!

[@redraptorx1066]

6:57 isn't a "it's what my character would do" story, it's a "it's what you want my character to do" story.

[@goose4349]

Honestly second story everyone was an idiot. The one player and the DM are dummies for changing a player’s alignment without talking to the player (dick move) Player is a dummy for the malicious compliance without talking to the DM (possibly even making other players uncomfortable, dick move also) Seriously, everyone in that story didn’t think deep enough to try to avoid that scenario. Also agree, seems more Chaotic Neutral than Chaotic Good Edit: reading other comments, it’s strange as hell that every NPC would suddenly know OP’s character is now a chaotic evil.

[@brianvance1178]

I love the way OP handled things in the second story. Also, has Monk in the fourth story ever read any Celtic mythology irl? It doesn’t matter whether the faerie is of the Seelie or Unseelie court, any faerie can be a right evil bastard when they want to be

[@dontnerfmebro8052]

Lmao what, do commoners go around with Detect Good/Evil now?

[@slagarcrue85]

Beautiful video doggie well executed.

[@mycat_tom5219]

Fun fact: I have a book about dragonology.

[@Jokervision744]

if im shocked I usually let it through, because it's important enough fact to be taken note of. Especially if they are younger than me, so that they understand to tone down their way of approach, if that doesn't work then I just say about it... I used to have problems with approaching people, not the other way around. That would put them into a position, if they are willing to approach with shared interest, then that shouldn't be a problem. Doing it like that would teach them that not all seniors are pro at social skills or something.

[@nikfighter262]

That guy? Totally Lawful Evil. He called his abhorrent murders, overkills all of them "Justice" brought to "Bad People"

[@willropa4226]

DND Doge was not prepared enough for story 3, nor would he ever be prepared enough for it.

[@gethriel]

I think the OP in the alignment change story had to do the murder hobo thing: HIS CHARACTER WAS CHANGED WITHOUT HIS CONSENT or even talking about it. I hardly believe they would have listened to a damned thing OP had to say.

[@soultpp]

You know, I think I agree with you. The fact that it happened without his knowledge or consent and the whole world just seemed to turn against his character en masse makes me think that the DM/player in question would not have responded to attempts to talk about things as swiftly as they did his attempt at what looks to me like reductio ad absurdum (I could be wrong.) By taking what they did to the absurd extreme he did, they came to him and he was able to show them his point that what they had done was wrong in the first point and got the DM at least to correct the issue.

[@wolfherojohnson2766]

8:29 Originally I was going to make a joke about this DM being the type that will take a paladin’s powers away for any reason, but this is just not the way to go about an alignment shift. Talk to your DM about your issues

[@gethriel]

DM clearly is not the communication sort, or he would have talked to OP before fiat changing his alignment.

[@TheGamersfolly]

1st story: the guy wasn't inserting himself. He said he WASNT just joining in, he was just really excited. DM was a bit melodramatic.

[@pippo17173]

Story 3 legit is a big AYO WHAT THE FUCK!?

[@marybdrake1472]

I'm not sorry, but the way the Op of the second story handled that was what needed to be done. if they were going to be petty, and forcibly change the player's alignment for no reason, then pay them back in kind. Yeah. it's petty, but what goes around comes around.

[@vampire9545]

"oh I'm chaotic evil now? I guess I'm should act like it then" it's just malicious compliance

[@marybdrake1472]

@@vampire9545 That is exactly the point I was making. Sometimes you have to use a little malicious compliance to make a point. And this one such occasion.

[@escarche9753]

In defense of second story's OP: he didn't become mindless murder hobo. He just started to act according to his alignment - became more brutal, started stealing items from npcs instead of rescuing their cats out of trees, not saving those in need. Op became edgelord if anything and I think it was pretty smart. Conversation is a key to problem-solving, but he wouldn't be able to convince an Alignment Karen (even the display of how evil character actually plays didn't convince them).

[@dead_vibes]

I agree with how OP treated the forced alignment change without Op's input. You fuck around, you find out. If someone says I'm playing evil, then I'll show them evil. DM and the other player got exactly what they asked for. Also what Doge said applies to the DM as well, communication is a two way street, it couldve been solved better. If anything this is Malicious Compliance.

[@ErdriedDeirdre]

10:48 to 11:08 is the best thing I've watched on KZbin today.

[@Thedragonlover95]

That third story, , ,just wow

[@ShaggySatyr]

The moment you hear anything about a main character leave. Thank them for their time, encourage their fun, and get the fuck out of there.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

I wouldn't call the first a horror story, just an extreme extrovert who is massively overeager to play in a game coming on way too strong. I hope he learns to take things easier and gets a game eventually

[@tylercoddington1990]

Out of curiosity, what are those squeeze treats called?

[@vampire9545]

Idk doge's but we use "delectables".

[@JangoFox]

Second Story: I'm...somewhat torn. :/ I agree with Doge, cause at the end of the day, TALKING with people is usually the best way to go about such issues, but I can see where the OP is coming from. The radical shift in how people treated him all because one other player didn't like how he played his character is, well, bullshit. The way he went about it wasn't correct, but I get the mindset of "well, if you're gonna treat me like a monster, I'll act like one". Ultimately, he should've tried to de-escelate the problem and talk with DM and player before going for the nuclear option. BUT as a very petty and spiteful person, I can't say that's what I would've done if I was in their shoes.

[@vampire9545]

He did object tho

[@MarsRedPlanet1914]

12:52 *looks at my chaotic/good Pixie Bear Totem barbarian*

[@schwarzerritter5724]

So you have one of those too. Although in my case, wild magic instead of bear totem. I was thinking about bear totem too, but I think wild magic fits the character better.

[@MarsRedPlanet1914]

@@schwarzerritter5724 i made that character as a joke, i had a DM that always let the players get max hp dice then leveling up so i thought it would be funny make a really small flying mess of condensed anger with really high HP

[@schwarzerritter5724]

​@@MarsRedPlanet1914 My fairy ended up having twice as many hitpoints as everyone else, because the other players all dumpstatted constitution. I also had the only strength build, but could not carry any more stuff than the rest, because the DM gave me a penalty on carry capacity.

[@cac_deadlyrang]

Who invited Rule 63 Hypnotist Sappho into their game?

[@celiand2618]

Hey doge, yes, from a 2nd edition player, sounded like a chaotic neutral from the beginning. Based on the principle of every action brings its reaction, can't blame op though. But the alignment is sill not... aligned with the character in the end, so... nothing fixed

[@TigerKirby215]

"In-game consequences" stories are always fun but they're never the way to solve problems. The Barbarian in the second story proved his point but he acted like an ass by doing so, probably burnt the bride with that one player even further, and ruined quite a few sessions I'm sure.

[@REfan2002]

Happy Friday, Doge and Kitties

[@TigerW0lf]

I'm pretty sure that if that FREAK was doing that stuff to his dogs, he can be reported to the Animal Humane Society or similar groups for animal cruelty/abuse 🤢

[@biffwellington6144]

"Guess I'm Evil Then"... Good is a fairly absolutist thing. Straying outside of Good once in a while doesn't mean you're not Good, but if you demonstrate a pattern of consistently being happy to do terrible things to terrible people, then yes, you're not actually Good. Not Evil, but not Good, either. Being nice to good people but doing horrible things to bad people makes you Neutral, IMO. I don't mean that as some sort of value judgment against such a character or his player; I'm just saying that the character is very morally flexible depending on who he's dealing with, and that makes him Neutral, not Good. He's a Neutral character who favors Good (because he's sane), and he will do terrible things to help the Good. That GM definitely went too far in declaring the character Evil, though.

[@DisneyChar]

The alignment change wouldnt have made me act like that, every npc in existence metagaming my alignment to be an ass would have me being a huge murder hobo while looking for a new game. We could talk like adults but that probably should have happened before the alignment change.

[@Jermbot15]

Chaotic evil story. D&D is a cooperative game. Everyone in that story, the other player, the DM and the OP need to work on cooperation.

[@Midnight3Wonder]

Monk clearly knows NOTHING about the fey. Sorry to burst people's bubbles, but fairies are NOT the cheery, innocent magical helpers they are often depicted as in Disney-like fairytales. Heck, even Disney has its fair share of evil fey. Maleficent being the most famous example of this. I love studying history and mythology and fairytales, and it's surprising how many fey are terrifying. There are many fairytales that feature evil fey, mythologies that don't shy away from how dangerous and manipulative the fey can be, and there are even entire cultures in history who fear fey. There are even those who still are scared of upsetting fairies to this day. Last I checked, Ireland still refuses to disrupt landmarks believed to be fey territory because they know better than to mess with them. I want to clarify that not ALL fey are mean or evil. If anything, they're mostly tricksters capable of good or evil. It just depends on how well you respect them and if they're in a good mood and such. Even fey with good intentions can often cause more harm than good. Whatever the case, don't offend them or give them any reason to attack you. That being said, I do love the fey very much. Whether they're the sweet and whimsical kind, or the terrifyingly monstrous kind, fey are always fun. Heck, some of my favorite subclasses are those tied to the fey such as Archfey warlocks and Shepard Circle druids. They're just a lot of fun and invite some interesting roleplaying and magic flavoring moments. I'd certainly prefer to make a pact with a fey than with a fiend or angel.

[@realrealwarpet]

If theres one thing i do find hilarious, its the idea of a very attractive female character falling in love with my barbarian. Purely for the joke of “he’s gay” to be played bonus if it goes no further then that, and she doesn’t try to “fix” him

[@ryanrizzo4869]

Happy Friday, oh dearest of Doges. :)

[@SOGAUA]

That dog story just... Wtf

[@Michael-fd1gx]

Fairy story, tell him evil hags are fey.

[@ArcmageZaln]

I would have gagged at the dog story if he did not do it first.

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

Dude came on a bit too strong, but I appreciate his enthusiasm. Also, his character sounds to me like a combination of Fjord and Jester from CR campaign 2, so be wary of the Mercer effect 'Fairies can't be bad' I'm sorry what? You do know "fairy" is a euphemism for _demon_ and they're called fair for fear of offending them, right?

[@rommdan2716]

Why?! Why did you make the Doggie read the 3rth story?!!!

[@umbreeunix]

Yanno, I get that in second Story OP could have handled it better by talking it out, but we also don't know the full context of the relationship OP has with that player or the DM. There could've been similar situations where they tried talking and it didn't work, so they had to resort to other means to get the point across. We have no context beyond the reddit post so there's no way to make an accurate judgement on the situation. Regardless, it's still not OP's fault. The people who should've opened their mouths were the DM and the other player, ESPECIALLY if there's issues with OP's character. Instead they pulled some petty high school bs and altered a major part of their character without consent or prior discussion, which is just scummy no matter how you look at it. It shouldn't always be on the OP of these posts to be the mediator, DnD is a group effort and it requires open communication from EVERYONE involved, not just the people on r/dndhorrorstories. If they wont do that then I can't see this as anything other than a 'you reap what you sow' kind of thing.

[@lochthefox6397]

I'm... I'm never going to be able to unhear "For The Dogs", am I? 🤢

[@slagarcrue85]

Last storey dm and girl friend get a private server.

[@RiveroftheWither]

Fairy's are nice? Maybe in Peter Pan but not in 90% of the lore that exists about them 🤣. The Fey are mischievous tricksters at their best and kidnapping, manipulative, hedonistic sadists at their worst.

[@rpghorrorstories]

I'm sorry but the "Chaotic Good" character is giving off "I only chop the balls off of bad people"/cognitive dissonance vibes. Torturing prisoners is supposed to be bad.

[@50chickens50]

"Fairies can't be bad" you clearly don't know about fairies lol

[@victoriapagac]

poor doggies nooooooooooooooo

[@christinesinclair6938]

Fairies can't be bad.....um.....has that Monk player EVER read any actual stories with fairies in them? Fairies are a-holes.

[@samuelsalvatore4511]

First story was such a nothing burger lol the dude just wanted to play dnd, can't see the problem with that

[@ArawnNox]

That "I guess I'm evil now" story rubbed me the wrong way. The OP's response was to go full nuclear on murder-hobo behavior rather than talk to the DM and player about the alignment shift. He could have very easily caused the whole game to implode. I'm not defending the DM's choice to listen to the offended player and make such a drastic alignment shift (Really, shifting to neutral would have made more sense, but I'm not buying the 'he's good in all other things" line if he's only good in the abstract "I kill baddies, which is good" way) but the reaction of OP is just juvenile.

[@rynowatcher]

Second story: that is a horror story from the point of view of said horrible player. His response to an in game problem is to flip the table in a passive aggressive way; even if you have a point, you are not right. Rather than talk it out with the dm and other players, they just made the game unplayable for everyone. Super toxic... OP at the start of the story admits to torturing captured enemies, overly brutal deaths of enemy, and merciless treatment of foes. I am reading that as they were going to uncomfortable levels of violence/pain for the other players. They should have talked to them about this out of game, but it is not clear if this actually happened or not as OP does not say one way or the other. Given how OP reacted to the alignment shift, there is a chance they did and they just did not care but unclear. Even if you are doing a "good thing," you can do evil. Not a statement for alignment so much as human nature. This is why we have rules of war having to do with treatment of prisoners and such. The treatment by the npc's seem less of an alignment thing and more of a natural consequence for how he was acting; enemies should fight to the death more because surrendering is a death sentence anyway, neutral parties in the conflict should not want to give you aid because of your methods, and paladins hanging out with dishonorable people can be seen from the outside as them supporting this dishonorable person. The OP is kind of looking at all the npc's as property that they should not have an opinion on how they conduct themselves. Seems like a logical consiquence; maybe you should do a pr campaign to fix your image, turn over a new leaf, or make friends in low places? Alignment is the easy debate... depends on what rule set you are using as the definitions have changed over the years. Not going to argue about it, but there is a difference between chaotic evil and chaotic stupid, and I can see an argument that CE is where he started while he went CS to prove a point.

[@theinquisitorisamage1653]

Well said - even an evil bastard has a nice day where they pet the dog. The only thing I have to say, like some folks here are pointing out, is that villagers aren't going to have Detect Evil; I'd think it would have sunk in if the DM made a gradual change to NPC interactions instead of doing a complete 180. Maybe start it off as a rumor; like a hunter saw something go down, a group of children were playing nearby, or another adventuring party. Then as the acts keep continuing or even escalating, have a few people give a side eye or shuffle out of the room when that PC enters it. Maybe have a town guard or two come in right after, just to "keep an eye on things." Works great if it's in an area the PC's were in before, where everyone was friendly.

[@rynowatcher]

@@theinquisitorisamage1653 the tricky part of this story is he does not say if op is doing these things in front of witnesses or not. They seem to have no shame about doing anything to a "bad guy" so they might be torturing prisoners in town square here. Not entirely clear, but the fact they see nothing that anyone could see as wrong, they probably are not going to any effort to hide. Biggest issue here is the other players are talking to the dm about it, so OP is making everyone REALLY uncomfortable with the level of brutality here. This really need to be a person to person talk, but given that OP is the kind of person that will hold the game hostage if they do not get their way it might have been attempted and OP just did not care or ignored it.

[@patjacksonpodium]

Second Story: Yeah, OP was a diiiiiick. That's really a petulant, jerk way to go about solving problems, and 100% makes them out to be the bad guy (or even THAT guy tbh). And while it would suck to have your PCs alignment changed, inflicting as much pain as possible on and torturing your enemies is NOT a Good aligned character. OPs character was Neutral aligned at best, the other player and DM were right in changing it, OP is an ass, and they should have booted them for their bad behavior.

[@escarche9753]

Lawful Good genocides monster races without a blink of an eye, so I wouldn't cross out torture entirely.

[@asioca1992]

This is honestly a story where everyone involved was at fault, to at least some extent and this entire story is a good lesson on how important communication is during your average D&D game. OP shouldn't have reacted the way they did and should've just talked things out with the GM in private, the GM shouldn't have forced an alignment shift without talking to the player beforehand, and the other player involved shouldn't have gone behind OP's back to convince the GM to knock them down to CE in the first place. Unfortunately, we'll never know if talking things out would've allowed everyone involved to avoid the issue entirely, but it's really hard to really root for anyone involved due to how badly everyone dropped the ball.

[@viennasavage9110]

its chaotic good. Chaotic good people do good deeds on their own terms. So the alignment is accurate.

[@lightningmycrocs4730]

@@viennasavage9110 I agree entirely as long as their ideals are for a genuinely Better world as a whole if it takes breaking a few eggs its alright is what chaotic good is so even dark things can be good if done towards the greater good

[@patjacksonpodium]

@@viennasavage9110 I've always seen Good as "I go out of my way to help people," Neutral as "I generally don't care what happens to people," and Evil as "I go out of my way to hurt people." So to me, torturing anyone, I don't care who it is, is an Evil act, and not something a Good character would do, at least not regularly. After all, alignments represent how you NORMALLY act, so while yes a Good character could brutalize someone in an act of passion I'd say they could keep their alignment. But if it's a regular thing then absolutely not. That's not a Good aligned character. At least that's the way I see it. It's kind of like how you know a person's character by how they treat service industry folks. I don't care how nice of a guy you seem, if I see you screaming at a waiter and stiffing them on the tip, you're not a good person. And if you regularly slaughter people and *go out of your way* to make it as horrible and painful as possible, you're not a Good aligned PC.

[@WladcaPodziemia]

First story was akward at best, not worth calling it "horror"... unless yo uare introvert of higest degree

[@fblack9033]

Concerning the story about the Fae: YES, Fae can be evil. Examples include Redcap, the Earlking, the Fool, changelings, the Dearg Due, the Caorthannach, Bean Nighe, banshees, Nuckelavee, LeanHaun-Shee, Dullahan, boogarts, kelpies, the Fachan, the Ankou, Slaugh, and many, many others. That guy has no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

[@Calories_To_Calibers]

Evil: the dm didn't talk to op when they changed their alignment why should op talk to the dm?