Hey cliff do you have any tips for hunting elk in thick timber with no glassing areas?
@darrensmall43134 ай бұрын
Cliff has one of the very few no kidding real western hunting channels. Truly grateful for passing on your experienced based knowledge! Thanks Cliff
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelnelson19114 ай бұрын
That’s a great tip. Thanks for sharing.
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
👍
@ZachSilverberg4 ай бұрын
I could have used this info earlier this month! Looking back, I think I had a very similar set up. I’ve learned a bunch from you Cliff!
@DavidAustin-z5w4 ай бұрын
I did this 2 days after watching this video. Had a lone bull who bugled once or twice and then nothing, so I did this exact method and next thing I knew I was face to face at 35 yards with this bull. Thanks!
@skunky5074 ай бұрын
@CliffGray i see a lot of these videos and it looks like mid day. What time of day are you able to call these elk in? Seems like they're bedded down and completely quiet where I'm hunting. Thanks for the videos! Love your stuff
@seawolf13303 ай бұрын
Just saw you on Dave’s show huge fan new follower
@justme.97113 ай бұрын
Are you using an external speaker/s? If so, what and what volume do you use?
@WildTines4 ай бұрын
Thanks Cliff!
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
👍
@ConnectK9Training4 ай бұрын
I'll try this the last weekend of season. Thanks famous Cliff!
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Good luck !
@jwdundon4 ай бұрын
I was told the reason! Some men like to fight, most men don't. Some bulls like to fight, the challenge bugle works on those bulls. Almost every man is going to put his guard down and go help a child that's crying or a baby that is crying. The bull is the exact same way, he hears a calf in distress he's going to go see what's wrong...
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
For sure a possible reason 👍
@rynedoppel68734 ай бұрын
@@CliffGrayI’ve heard this exact “child in distress” theory and have always tried to utilize it a bit. I’ve only killed one bull so far and it wasn’t during that type of setup though so who really knows
@jwdundon4 ай бұрын
@@CliffGray this was the theory of Dan Kloer, he owns "deep timber sounds". Elk bugle and calls. His BIG thing, at least 20 years ago, when I hunted with him was "understand the language", not "speak the language". -- he really seemed to know his shit.
@lymanclark55374 ай бұрын
I have seen and heard lone calves in the woods. They would continue to make the repetitive sharp mews for long periods of time while moving through the woods. I think you are correct to a point, but I believe the bulls chasing the hot cows separate the calf from the momma cow. The calf cannot stay with the momma cow running from the bull, who has his nose in her butt. Those lone calves making those lost or gathering calls looking for momma are an indication a hot cow is in the area. Those bulls know the calf mews will tell them (sound) where the activity is happening, and they come in hoping to get a smell of the pheromones. I have used that technique on several occasions in Colorado. Thanks for sharing the info, not many hunters no about this.
@shawnbahr45084 ай бұрын
Think this will work 1st rifle in Colorado?
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Yes
@MiddleOutdoorsman4 ай бұрын
Sounds like using calves as a decoy, and probably works best during peak rut. I'll have to try this out next archery season. As calls in general go, personally i've just been using a cow call, letting out a few mew's every now and then and not worry about it. Occasionally something comes, most of the time they probably just think i'm another elk. Although, you have me wondering if i did a calve call last year and didn't realize it. Had a bachelor group come RUNNING in on me, about 3 minutes or so after calling. Got way too close to one of those bulls for comfort, about shit my pants as he slammed on the brakes and pointed the business end of his tines towards me at 3 yards. But this was august, not september. I think it was that very unique period where elk were still in their groups, but that itch to rut was just barely starting.
@sh951003 күн бұрын
Clif, can a person persue the elk during rut with only camera and no hunting licenses Is this legal. Would like to scout during this time b/c I’ll have a rifle season tag. Thanks
@Redcon224 ай бұрын
I had a new scenario this year. Bugled up a bedded bull with cows. Sept 23rd. Pushed in to 100 and tried the slow play. He went silent. When we backed out and got a few hundred yds he went nuts. Set up to try and get him leaving his bed. Cows came right past us. He had slipped out, left his cows and went down the ridge. The next day he went quiet on us again. Got in his zone and just made cow, calf and display sounds (raking, glunking and panting) he closed 60 yds over a 45 min. Span. Dead silent and busted my shooter peaking around some brush. No clue what to do with a cagey old bull that could care less about his few cows and doesn't respond inside 250.
@christopherbates85864 ай бұрын
In griz country, I’m guessing you’d recommend we use this tactic with discretion based on terrain right Cliff? I.e thick timber, bear sign. Etc
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Yeah, good call. Or do it when you’re hanging up high in a skinny tree. See that angle in the video? 😜
@jayxnina4 ай бұрын
wise discernment mr bacon
@christopherbates85864 ай бұрын
@@CliffGray yeah man I see you perched up. Eagle eye status right there!
@christopherbates85864 ай бұрын
@@jayxnina you bet Jay! Especially in a wilderness area 😎
@profumocustoms5164 ай бұрын
What types of calls would you suggest for doing this?
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Mouth reeds are the easiest once you get them figured out
@profumocustoms5164 ай бұрын
@@CliffGray does this tactic still work late season rifle?
@andrewmiller17614 ай бұрын
@@profumocustoms516 also curious on this. Got a 2nd rifle elk, would love to have a bit easier time locating them.
@tygoulding25474 ай бұрын
I think more than this tactic works would be more accurate to say this principle works. I’ve literally only experienced the “calf storm” maybe three times in almost ten years of calling. The principle is that when elk are rutting they are gathering. They are a herd animal and when they hear calves, cows, whatever vocalizing like it’s normal they feel safe and like no predators are around. You can accomplish this principle with way more than just cow sounds. Totally agree with the principle but I think if you go sit and just use calf sounds public land you’re going to spend a lot of time and have a mix from the bottom with calves to big bulls occasionally
@monsterman2u4 ай бұрын
I chirped one time...And a Calf came out of the trees, chirping constantly! Ran the other way up a hill, then he realized he was going the wrong way...Spun a 180 and ran right up to me at full draw...He almost poked his nose on my broadhead. LOL 😅 They're crazy!
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
For sure. Sometimes they are in pure panic mode… but keep them around and bulls show up
@monsterman2u4 ай бұрын
@@CliffGray For sure! You proved it on this video. Always exciting in Elk country!
@tacticalmarshing95483 ай бұрын
Sounds like calling turkeys
@indyreno29334 ай бұрын
The Elk (Cervus canadensis), also known as the wapiti is a large deer species native to North America and Eastern Asia, it is the largest of the six extant deer species constituting the genus Cervus and the second largest deer species alive today, with only the Moose (Alces alces) being larger, the closest living relative of the elk is the Hangul (Cervus hanglu) that resides in Central Asia, there are fifteen known subspecies of elk: the Tibetan Elk (Cervus canadensis wallichii), the Kansu Elk (Cervus canadensis kansuensis), the Sichuan Elk (Cervus canadensis macneilli), the Mongolian Elk (Cervus canadensis mongoliensis), the Alashan Elk (Cervus canadensis alashanicus), the Tian Shan Elk (Cervus canadensis songaricus), the Manchurian Elk (Cervus canadensis xanthopygus), the †Korean Elk (Cervus canadensis coreanus), the Siberian Elk (Cervus canadensis sibiricus), the Roosevelt Elk (Cervus canadensis roosevelti), the Rocky Mountain Elk (Cervus canadensis nelsoni), the Tule Elk (Cervus canadensis nannodes), the †Merriam's Elk (Cervus canadensis merriami), the Manitoba Elk (Cervus canadensis manitobensis), and the †Algonquin Elk (Cervus canadensis canadensis).
@ryanpittman86904 ай бұрын
First
@CliffGray4 ай бұрын
Yeah buddy 🤙 booyah
@christopherbates85864 ай бұрын
If you weren’t first, you’d be…
@natetruth68284 ай бұрын
@CliffGray should a person avoid calling in 2nd rifle colorado,?