Simple Way To Make An Illusion for Wood Turning

I was asked to show how I made a fairly simple illusion so I came up with a way to do it with a compass and a very simple formula to get the needed dimensions.
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[@ThePapa1947]

This was supposed to be for Friday but I had so much going on when I posted it I clicked on Thursday I guess. Oops...so this will be Friday's video. Sorry about that, Gary

[@copperowlwoodturning5929]

That’s ok Gary. I will watch it tomorrow as well. Thanks. 😊😊

[@ThePapa1947]

Cool!

[@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop]

You are amazing, Gary! This is another video for future generations. It would not surprise me if it is shown in several different classrooms. Geometry and Woodworking combined to make Art! Very well done, Professor! 👏😀 Phil

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Phil and I sure do love doing these. They tell me when I was a kid I would get a present and play with it then the next day take it apart to see how it works. Kind of what I like doing with these illusions. Now if I could figure out the days of the week maybe I would have posted my video on Friday instead of today. Oh well I think I have next weeks in the right time slot LOL. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary

[@PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop]

@@ThePapa1947 Haha, I study that calendar and then study another one just to be sure I've got the right date to post a video! LOL!

[@beatricethomas3056]

I love the way your mind works-everything is precise! A wonderful example of the application of mathematics! I tried so hard to convince my daughter that math isn’t useless. Unfortunately, I am having vision issues, so I couldn’t see most of what you were doing, but I got the gist of it.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Beatrice. For sure math is important and used all the time even if you do not think about it. I am happy you are able to watch what you can of my videos and sorry about your vision issues. Take care, Gary

[@s.l.makuka9219]

Thanks Gary! You promised a video on making this illusion without math and you came through! I appreciate how you showed the layout using a compass and how it translated in to a mathematical formula which can be applied to different sized illustrations. I took so many screenshots that I can print ThePapa1947 illusion booklet, LOL. I know this video must have taken you a lot of time to produce, and you didn’t even get to spin-up your lathe! But your KZbin followers sure do appreciate your time and thorough explanation on how to make this illusion! Thanks again! Steve

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Steve and I know you will be able to do it following your book you make. Just have your publisher send me my monthly checks LOL. Best of luck with making this illusion and let me know how it goes. Take care, Gary

[@kennyboothe7544]

Thank you for the time you dedicate to figuring and then explaining how you accomplish what you do. I need to watch again to see the choice of woods - or just cut extras and then lay them out to see what looks good!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Kenny and that is a great idea just making a stack of pieces to choose from. Plus you make get two turnings out of them. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@julianc3580]

Great, easy explanation by the "Segment Professor". Thanks for sharing.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Julian. it is a pretty easy one to make and I am sure happy to hear you could understand my explanation. Take care, Gary

[@marcnicolet7185]

I am growing increasingly fascinated with the exquisite intricacy of your process and ability to first envision what you want to achieve. I am going to dust off my compass and protractor and some blank paper for the first part of the fun! Thanks for sharing.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Marc and just drawing it up is a lot of fun as well. Stay tuned as I have an easier one to draw up and figure out how to make it. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@kevinbooth2063]

Gary, thanks for the simple explanation. I am looking forward to retirement when I can learn, apply and have time for turning. Only 1.5 years away.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Kevin and retirement is something I was sure looking forward to. Been retired 11 years and feel busier than when I was working. Take care, Gary

[@Frank18750]

My head was spinning for some time but I watched it a few times and got to understand it . Thanks Gary I will have a go at it soon

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Frank and let me know how it goes. Take care, Gary

[@laurimccreary4197]

Thanks Gary. For one who struggled with geometry in school I appreciate this video. It's a keeper. Thanks again

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Lauri! Happy you found it helpful. Take care, Gary

[@raykottke4118]

Wow Gary! I've looked at making one of these but could not understand the math. You simplified it enough to help me try one! Thank you!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Ray and happy you liked the video. Let me know how it goes for you. Gary

[@albertdawson6814]

I remember you saying that you were going to show this if people wanted to see it. I'm so happy that you showed this. You made it very easy to understand. Thank you. This will be the project for the weekend. Your videos are always very enjoyable. I always look forward to seeing them. Thank you for sharing. I hope I see you on the next one

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Albert. Yes I did say I would and found this was the perfect time to do that. I also have another sled I promised to show but just need to find time to fit it in. Let me know how your project goes and if you have any questions on doing it. Gary

[@54lespaul77]

Gary, that was great fun to watch. No doubt I’ll have to see it a couple of times to truly “get” it, but it’s worth the investment. Thanks for doing that. For me the process is as interesting as the final product. I wish I had someone who would be interested in this because I certainly would share it!! Cheers, Rick

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Rick. Watch all you need. The first watch requires a LIKE and the rest are all free LOL. Not everyone is interested but as long as some are I enjoyed making the video. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@robertweldon7909]

In addition, the proper placement of the different colored wood pieces, gives the illusion of depth, (tricking the eye) even though everything is actually flat. Nice illustration. '-)

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Robert. For sure the right choices of wood can really bring the illusion out. You can see it with all the same but it really strains your eyes to see it. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@TheMessyStudio]

Very helpful and easy to understand, Gary. Thank you for sharing!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Billy. I appreciate you watching my friend, Gary

[@make-somedust]

Once again you’ve outdone yourself. I’ve just learned more in 20 minutes then I did a whole year in high school. Thanks for sharing this, it will live forever in cyber world now. Chuck

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. In grade school they put me in an advanced math class which I loved but in high school the math teacher I had was well...not so good and almost made me hate math. Once I started my wood patternmaking apprenticeship it all came back and was very exciting again. Have fun if you should try this. Gary

[@make-somedust]

I’m making one now and finding it to be a struggle due to my own stupidity, but I’m pushing forward because it intrigues me. So many options can be formed from these shapes. Somehow I’ll finish one and show you the results of your lessons. Do you have an email address to share for sending photos?

[@jameslamm9315]

Sir, if every teacher taught like you do, school would be fun

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much James. I had my share of those teachers. I think the worst was my English/social studies teacher in my freshman year of high school. Made me hate English but then my junior year I ended up with the best. And she was known as the hardest. But she was so good it made me love the class. Thanks for the memories and thanks for watching, Gary

[@carolriley8472]

I am always so appreciative of all your hard work demonstating how you make your designs, so that we can copy them. You are so amazing and so kind to share your hard work. Thanks so much, Gary!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Carol. I like to see others be able to make what I do as much as making them myself. Thank you for your comments. Gary

[@valeriehenschel1590]

Thank you, Gary . Well explained and simplified! Saved for later use. Recovering from hand surgery, so it will be awhile before I am back in the shop. But then I hope to make several of them!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Valerie I appreciate your comment. Sorry about your hand surgery and hope is has helped you out. I am still avoiding shoulder surgery and looks like I will be extending my physical therapy. It is working but still hurts when i get up in the morning. Ice pack at night does help. Take care, Gary

[@valeriehenschel1590]

@@ThePapa1947 Surgery should allow me to get back to using my hand. Mostly for pain reduction. Meanwhile I will have to make do with watching everyone else have all the fun. So go have some more fun and show us what is happening in your shop!

[@markbrown1011]

Thanks Gary, how beautiful that turn is. Thank you for all your good work, but most of all thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Mark. I figure if I share them it will make more room in my head to make more things LOL. No I just think that if someone wants to do something this I hope they are able to. I know it can look overwhelming but hopefully I showed how simple it really is if your break it down. Thanks for your comments and for watching, Gary

[@derekrobertson1548]

Brilliant tutorial, there is no way I would have been able to work that equation out without your help. Much appreciated. Never done any wood turning before but I do enjoy your videos. Hope to try your patern out with some scraps of wood at some point.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Derek. Happy it has helped. You could make this as a serving tray and it would look great. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@rogerbrousseau4507]

Thank You Gary for your time in putting this together for us ! I will be giving this a shot in the near further. I have made many of your designs and jigs and had fun with all. Thanks again for all you do for the woodturning community

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Roger. I really like to see our woodturning community in action. I sure hope it just keeps going. I have not problem with modern ways of doing things but this is more fun than pushing the go button. That said I have a full sized CNC milling machine. I enjoy designing and programing it but once it starts cutting it is nap time LOL. Take care, Gary

[@richardmadden957]

Thanks for taking the time to explain all of this. Looks like something I might have to try….someday.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Richard. Best of luck when you give it a try. Gary

[@stephengarrett5927]

Thanks so much for sharing your design process. It helps a lot when my dimensions are a bit different than yours. I am not very original but I have enjoyed duplicating many of your projects. I hope you don’t mind, I just give them as gifts.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Stephen. I do not mind at all. As a matter of fact I am honored that you choose to duplicate them. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@ronkiskowoodart9680]

That was great! Thanks for taking your valuable time to share. Next up give it a whirl, well after I recover from my stroke so might be a week or so. Will show it to you when I am done!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Ron. Hope you recover quickly. Take care, Gary

[@MarklTucson]

Thanks for doing this Gary. So now I need to spend some time on my CAD program and play with this a bit. The engineer in me wants to determine the derivation of that formula and why those numbers make sense, the other part of me knows that's going to make my head hurt but it'll be good for me. 😄

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. If it is any help the "Great Illusion" I made worked the same way. The lengths were determined by the length of the 30 degree cut. And it started with an equal length parallelogram so maybe easier to grasp the idea. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@user-gr8wy2ez1v]

Thanks Gary. That really helps to illustrate the illusion. And also thank you for clarifying which "color" wood goes in which spot to really get the 3D effect. Rewatching this and the original turning will really help me learn your technique.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Dick. For sure it is all about the color and where they are at to look like shadows. Happy you enjoyed this video. Gary

[@thomaskuzia8125]

Hi Gary,,, Thanks so very very much for doing this for all of us! I'm in the middle of another mind-bending project,, mind bending for me anyway. Lol as soon as I'm done with this, I'll dive right into this illusion. Thanks for this and for being you! Tom

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Tom. Sometimes I feel like my mind is always in a bending state after doing this. I should take a break from them. That said there is something sitting in the shop that is a mind bender but not all that bad. Just need to find time to finish it. Take care, Gary

[@thomaskuzia8125]

@@ThePapa1947 I'm sure you'll figure it out and I can't wait to see what it is!

[@gabrielc6252]

This is the "rocket science" of wood turning :)

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Gabriel. Rocket science...Wow thank you very much. Take care, Gary

[@edwardjanowsky2682]

Gary…thank you so much…you make it look easy! Looking forward to tackling this! Ed

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Ed and love to hear how it goes for you. If you have any other questions let me know. Gary

[@gailhicks6223]

Thanks so much Gary. You made the math look easy. I’m going to try this in glass.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Gail. Glass...now that would be cool. I know someone who does stain glass and years ago I turned forms for lamp shades he was making. Would love to see what you come up with. Gary

[@scottbeilsmith4261]

Thank you so much for doing this video Gary. It definitely simplifies the understanding of the process in doing this. Hope to see more videos like this in the future. Thanks again and take care.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Scott. Happy you liked the video. Take care, Gary

[@timrauscher3965]

You made that look simple, but I think it will be awhile before I attempt to make one. Thanks for the video.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Tim. When ever you are ready and feel like it is the time. Take care, Gary

[@alinmayerthorpe7801]

Thank you Gary for the complete and very informative demonstration of how to make that design! I am going to save this video so I can refer back to it try this design, well done! Cheers Al

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Al and please do give it a try. I think you will have lots of fun. Take care, Gary

[@beardedwoodpecker]

Thank you Gary for the well explained video (tutorial ) on illusion Take care Yiannis

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Yiannis and thanks for watching. Take care, Gary

[@dalekuhlman1009]

Wow it’s a crazy amount of thinking that you put into this. I’d be lost, however I sure enjoyed watching.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Dale. Check out the one I did called "The Great Illusion" Thanks for watching, Gary

[@donaldchase6800]

Thank you. This was very helpful. Our club just had a demo on segmenting last night. Very timely! Thanks. Don

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Donald. I do like segmented turning and have another one in the works. They take a bit of time so I like to just turn pieces of logs while I work on them. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@skipflorey2511]

Gary, thanks for doing this video! It was very informative and I enjoyed it. You do spend a lot time and effort in all your videos. Just saying it’s appreciated and helpful👍.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Skip. Happy you found it helpful. Take care my friend, Gary

[@Jim-bq2ck]

Hi Gary Very well explained, thanks for making it simplified.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Jim and thanks for watching, Gary

[@dougforshey8998]

Awesome stuff right there. Thank you so much for taking the time to make it as easy as possible. God bless you sir

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Doug. Happy you found this helpful and God bless you as well. Gary

[@bruceelrick2939]

Thanks again Gary. You are awesome and a great teacher. I’m going to try it

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank Bruce I appreciate your comments. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@ianm6891]

Thank you Gary, yes. Ideas like this are really appreciated as well as fun. I see someone pointed out the inner triangles so I think I can try. BTW, thank you again for the ring cutter model, on #2 I used a 90% fill and it is working great. Cut a few test prices then glues and turned for fun, I’m still rusty but really like your jig. Seems so much safer than the bandsaw. Thank you!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Ian, it was fun to do and happy you liked it. I have made a few BFB's using the band saw but to me it adds more work than is needed. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@thomasbone5498]

great piece of work made simmple and I do appresheate how easy you made it Bob England UK ( every one calls me Bob not Thomas ) I wait to here from you soon Gary.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Bob and for letting me know. I end up using what is in your KZbin name. At least you have something there. When it is not there it is really hard to use a person's name when I reply. Just end your comment with Bob and I will remember. Take care, Gary

[@williamellis8993]

Interesting, Gary. I'm going to try a cutting board with that as an insert. Bill

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Bill and I like that idea. I should make one of those myself. It would be great practice making the pieces as end grain. Stay tuned you never know...LOL Gary

[@MrSchnauzerdude]

awesome just awesome I have been thinking about this all night and day after watching the video thank you thank you I really appreciate all of your videos You have really taught me a lot Jerry

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Jerry. Give it a try. Lots of fun to do. Take care, Gary

[@jimbalz3017]

A lot of brain power behind this video. I, for one, appreciate it very much. I'm sure there's a lot more out here who feel the same.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Jim I am happy you enjoyed it and I know others have as well. I do that I lost 2 subscribers on this video but that is the way it goes. I enjoyed making it and happy you enjoyed watching. Take care, Gary

[@gordroberts53]

Hi Gary! Been a while since my last visit, has also been a while since my last turning. Feeling like I’ll be back at it real soon as this has been a real motivator for me. I think I’ll finally learn how to use my sketch up program. Would love to see how you clamp this for the glue up work flow. Thanks so much for sharing 🙏

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Gord. You can see how it was glued together here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHStiYJqnpumhZo&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 Hope you get back to the lathe soon. Gary

[@gordroberts53]

@@ThePapa1947 thanks for this Gary. I do have a project on the lathe I started several months ago. Needs less than half a day to finish. Hope to finish it next week. Off to check out the glue/clamp video now. Take care, Gord

[@thomasbone5498]

I did finnaly make the illusion as I followed your instructions to the letter and I was very please with my self and I thank you very much for showing it how you did it. I also past on to my mates as they are going to try it. I look forworc to your next illusions. Bob England UK.

[@ThePapa1947]

Wonderful Bob. Happy you had success and I do have another one coming real soon. Thanks for letting me know. Gary

[@albertdawson6814]

Gary I wish I would be able to hit like everytime I watched this today. This video is so informative Gary. I have it laid out on paper. Now watching it again, and try and determine what wood needs to be which size. I wish I could hit like. I'll keep you posted

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Albert your comments are good enough. Please do keep me up to date on your progress. Take care, Gary

[@philvale5724]

Hi 👋, 1947, That was excellent how you explained, something for me to have a go at later in the year hopefully, Phil from the moulin

[@ThePapa1947]

Hi Phil, thank you for your comments and let me know how it goes. Gary

[@gilgrace1915]

Great video Gary. It makes geometry easy to understand...even for me. ;-) I use the 30 degree side of my 30-60-90 drafting triangle to setup my segmenting jig. It works great for 12 segment rings, but the 60 degree angle will make 6 segment rings just a accurately. Just a tip for anyone on a low budget like me. I really appreciate your tips on how to achieve the 3-d illusion. Also, I will borrow you formula for the length of each piece. Very helpful. I would like to see more of this type video. You are quite the teacher Gary.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Gil. Geometry played a huge part of my job and I still enjoy using it. I do not have my wedgie sled set up for 6 segments but can do 12 on it. I think I have a wedge for 8 as well. Happy you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching. Gary

[@zetuskid]

Gary I’ll bet you were fantastic in Mechanical Drawing class. I’ll have to say following your steps on this video makes the water a little less muddy. By the way I was terrible in Mechanical Drawing. Great video friend-enjoy Week-End!😊😊😊😊

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much my friend. I did love the Mechanical drawing a lot. That paid off when I started my apprenticeship to become a wood patternmaker. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@dennismcneill6829]

Nicely explained and graphics easy to understand. I hope you show more illusion projects.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Dennis and there just may be another one in the works. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@jameslamm9315]

Thanks for sharing, you make it all so simple

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you James. I appreciate your comment and hope you give it a try. Take care, Gary

[@diannesorem6389]

Great explanation and very easy to follow. Thanks for the great info!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Dianne. I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching, Gary

[@spindlesworkshop9744]

that was very awesome! I will have to watch this a couple times to grasp it all

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Luie. Fun just to sketch out and color in. Might make a nice end grain cutting board which I am thinking of doing. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@jackthompson5092]

Beautiful illusion Gary.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Jack and thanks for watching, Gary

[@markbahlke9091]

Excellent Gary! Your lessons are wonderful. Easy to understand, and you have a way of really encouraging us to try it ourselves. I will be trying this, hopefully in the near future. So easy, and really beautiful! I have saved this video in my woodworking category, and will be referencing it until I know how to do it very easily. Thanks! See you soon.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. I encourage everyone to make a sketch even if it is a free hand. This will help get those steps down in your head. Best of luck, Gary

[@BAILEYWOODWORKS]

Another great video Gary. You should be teaching somewhere. You have a great teaching style.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Chis. I spent many years talking to myself while I built patterns just to keep the flow going and in the right order. Happy you like how I do this and I appreciate your comments. Gary

[@laurazakrzewski]

Very interesting. Love the diagrams Gary.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Laura! Happy you enjoyed it. Take care, Gary

[@WoodenItBeNice]

Brilliant Gary and one I'm keeping. Take care my friend. Hwyl, Huw

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Huw. You will have lots of fun making it. Hwyl, Gary

[@DougMilleratWoodSpunRound]

Super job. So very well explained. Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Doug I appreciate that. Maybe we will get you doing segments yet LOL. You do know you can use Walnut 😎 Thanks for watching, Gary

[@tedreece7811]

Gary, Thanks for the inspiration. I am a subscriber and eagerly await your videos each week. This one inspired me to give it a try. I tried to send you a link to a photo, but I guess KZbin doesn't allow that. In my first attempt I cut the pieces out on the CNC machine. I had trouble getting all of the joints closed properly before the glue set up. In my second try, I cut the pieces out on the table saw and found that by gluing up the outer surrounding border first, then adjusting the inner pieces, as necessary, with some sanding, I was able to get a pretty tight fit on all of the joints.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Ted for taking time to comment. After a few of these you will figure out how to get the glued with all at once on this size. The trick a dry fit and when you know they fit then put glue on but do not rub the joints. Just put them slightly against the other piece. If you rub the joints the glue starts soaking in and sets up. You can find my email under my About Page if you want to send pictures or have other quesions. You can only do it on a PC though not your cell phone. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@tschmath]

This is fantastic. Thank you for doing this. It looks like you have errors in the two front corners, tho. Look at it carefully and you'll see the errors. Again, thanks for doing this.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. I think it might be fooling your eyes as I saw the same issue while making the sketch. I just went over it again and confirmed the pieces are the correct length and go where they should. It is much easier to see if they are colored in. Bottom line is if the pieces are cut right they will only go in one way. Hopefully I made that clear when I showed the pieces being put in place in CAD. I know it looks that way but if you could turn the drawing 180 degrees it looks correct. The whole thing is an optical illusion and even fooled me. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@tuffymartinez]

Thank You Gary... wow Thursday morning Papa ?... It is always fun watching you create and share with the world. I have the same compas with its very fine- tuning adjusting screw. I know you love and enjoy using the CAD along with your CNC equipment BUT (from my point of view) I so much enjoy it when you show your "hands on" approach (on paper) in working a project. I think just wonderful along with your discussion of procedures. Gary, I feel you have just created a wonderful explanation video for peanut brain home shop folks like me! You have also created a solid reference to refer back to in times of brain fog. Great One Gary... TM

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much TM. I have admit this was an accident when I posted it. KZbin has a calendar to pick from and one other time I did not get it line up right. I was shocked to see the first comment. After I got done kicking myself I said OH WELL! That said this is Friday's video. Not sure if I could turn something and edit it quick enough. Hmm I wonder if I should try LOL/ Take care, Gary

[@tuffymartinez]

@@ThePapa1947 Well Gary whatever the time, YOU did really good with this one. In my shop I have been working on getting my head around gear cutting calculations. Repaired a broken gear to help out a local shoe repair shop with his beautiful German antique stitching machine. Bringing back old tools with a simple fix is so rewarding for me (but I am getting off the subject) ... SURE Gary if you are up to it try to post a quicky for tomorrow, HA. I always learn from U TM

[@jeremyeckenroth9054]

Outstanding video. Thank you for putting this together. I shall be trying it out soon.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Jeremy and thanks for watching and commenting, Gary

[@roncooney8526]

Great tutorial Gary. Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy these.

[@ThePapa1947]

Glad you enjoyed it Ron and thanks for watching, Gary

[@copperowlwoodturning5929]

Nice one Gary. Real cool illusions, too. 😊

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Rob. Take care, Gary

[@kensommers5253]

Your videos are always well explained and easy to follow, thank you!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Ken and thanks for watching, Gary

[@vincem5066]

very cool. your video's are the best on youtube.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Vince I appreciate your comment and thanks for watching, Gary

[@billgiles3261]

wonderful and a great explanation.

[@ThePapa1947]

Glad you liked it Bill and thanks for watching, Gary

[@mikep.9005]

Do you have a video on how you incorporated this into a bowl? Great work 👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Yes I do and I added the link to the description. But here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHStiYJqnpumhZo&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 Thanks for watching, Gary

[@mikep.9005]

Thank you. Now I can watch it and only hope someday I will get the patience to actually try it. 😂

[@joeysturgeon]

great information. Thank you

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Joey and thanks for watching, Gary

[@markfunke9732]

Excellent description, thanks.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. Happy you liked it. Take care, Gary

[@glencrandall7051]

Let me see if I have this correct. The constant is .14435 The width of the strips is .14435 x radius of pattern All bevels are 30 degrees The length of the parallelegram is the length of the bevel x 5 The length of the long trapezoid is the length of the bevel x4 The length of the short trapezoid is the length of the bevel x3 For each color wood: 4 parallelegrams 2 long trapezoids 2 short trapezoids You did not give dimensions for the triangular infill pieces, but it appears each side of the infill triangle is the length of the bevel x2. 6 infill triangles Yes more like this would be appreciated. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂 .

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Glen and you got all of the dimensions correct. I did not give the dimensions of the triangle as I think they should be made after the dry fit to make sure they will fit. At least that is how I do it. And yes it is a triangle with equal length legs. Happy you enjoyed the video! Gary

[@jarmstrong2843]

Interesting video, Gary. Another project I will need to try for myself.

[@ThePapa1947]

You should give it a try John. Pretty easy to do. Thanks for watching

[@ianbennet7408]

Wow ....I'm very impressed by your geometry skills and instructions.. How can you measure and cut to such a small tolerance? Any mistake is multiplied many times.. Thank you for breaking this down to manageable steps.. I will have to try this.. Ian

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Ian. It can be done with careful measuring and cutting. Use scrap wood to adjust so you do not waste the good stuff. I can usually get it with one test and and adjustment. But I have many years of adjusting a table saw to exact dimension. Give it a try and just know you can do it. Take care, Gary

[@stevehogg]

Phenomenal!!!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Steve! Take care, Gary

[@millsinaz4220]

The two videos are really good with great instructions. To be sure, it looks like the six triangles are 1" per side. Did you cut then to the exact size or add a couple of thousandths and then lightly sand them down for a tight fit?

[@ThePapa1947]

Yes the triangles work out to be 1" on all 3 legs. I would suggest doing a dry fit of all the other parts and make sure that is what you end up with. If all the other cuts are right on that is what you will get. Same thing if you decide to frame it in and make it round. Those all worked out for me. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@patdavis1468]

That is amazing, thank you👍🏻❤️

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Pat and thanks for watching, Gary

[@patdavis1468]

@@ThePapa1947 my pleasure, thank you

[@bcwalker1]

Amazing!!!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Billy!

[@raydriver7300]

Oh, yes, Gary do more, even though I understood 50% of what you said half the time 🌞

[@ThePapa1947]

Sure thing Ray. Let's see 50% half the time = X/?= ahh well I guess you got it LOL. Thanks for watching my friend, Gary

[@charlesyonk4315]

Thanks for another great video!😊

[@ThePapa1947]

You are so welcome Charles and thanks for watching, Gary

[@PotgieterWoodturning]

Hi Gary, thank you for this video. It actually took 3 tries to finish watching the video. One question though, If I convert to metric (mm), i get very odd numbers. If I round that numbers off, will it make a difference to the outcome? Thanks for o great video.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Japie. I guess it would depend on how much you round it off. If you are using a calculator to work this out do not bother with rounding out the formula number. Then when you get the lengths needed you could round them down to 3 or 4 places.

[@PotgieterWoodturning]

@@ThePapa1947 thank you Gary

[@swinfield12]

I like the illustrations and you have made it easy to do the math. Just were you a teacher or an engineer?

[@ThePapa1947]

I was a wood patternmaker which took a lot of geometry. And I did have to engineer the construction of the patterns I made so they would work for the foundries. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@allthegearys]

Would love to give this project a go! Think I have a handle on the process except for the triangle fillers. Any plan to do a video on that?

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks for watching Patrick. I did not five dimensions on triangles as I think it is best to measure after your other pieces are dry fit together. But going with the same idea as the other pieces the triangle is 2X of the length of your 30 degree cut. I wish I had added that but again this is easy to measure after you have a dry fit. Hope that helps, Gary

[@allthegearys]

Thanks Gary. You have a way of making a challenging project simple(er) and enjoyable.@@ThePapa1947

[@markduggan3451]

Stunning designs, thank you for sharing.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark I appreciate you watching. Take care, Gary

[@glencrandall7051]

Another comment / question: I presume none of this is effected by the thickness of the strips. What if I vary the width of the strips? I presume the constant of .14435 changes. Does everything go to pieces? Or could a new constant be calculated?🙂🙂

[@ThePapa1947]

If you wanted to just rip the pieces to a random width and measured the length of the angle you cut then you could times that by 3 4 and 5 to get the lengths. You loose the control of the diameter by doing that. I was showing how you can control the diameter and then get the sizes of the pieces. But yes it will work. Gary

[@barryerdman6285]

Amazing

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Barry and thanks for watching, Gary

[@nelsangelin9667]

would you cut these out as an inlay to insert?

[@ThePapa1947]

It could be done but this is somewhat like doing an insert. If I built the outer frame I could insert all the pieces into it.

[@delbertbohm2039]

great l think l got it thank you

[@ThePapa1947]

Good deal Delbert and thanks for watching, Gary

[@fernandovelasco7618]

Berry good job

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much. I appreciate you watching, Gary

[@cindypoole9296]

Thanks

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you for watching Cindy! Take care, Gary

[@oldwolfswoodshop]

Good day I appreciate your videos, and I enjoyed them for Quite a while, so thank you. Question, I thought you were done a video on building a star for a feature ring I remember watching it but I cannot seem to find it. I’m in the process of creating a bottom for a Stave bowl Anne wanted to use that process. Could you please direct me to the name of the video I would appreciate it. Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you for watching and your comments. This one I did a star in the bottom of a bowl: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4rIq2l8breHo5o&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 This was in a feature ring: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKKbkImcp9iNp5I&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 And this one how to make a star: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJqQZGCLh9uln5o&ab_channel=ThePapa1947 Let me know if you have any questions, Gary

[@oldwolfswoodshop]

Thanks Gary, the last video was what I was referring to. Thanks. Keep up the great work.

[@eastinthames6624]

So i seemed to still be a little confused where did you get the .14435 number from?

[@ThePapa1947]

I divided the width of the board by the radius. This becomes a common number that will work with what ever radius you choose.

[@Boodge1]

How mny of each piece are required.

[@ThePapa1947]

Four of the long ones of each type of wood. And 3 of the others of each type of wood. But I always cut a few extra/