The Great Leap Forward (1958-62)

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Land reform, where estates had been taken from rich landowners and redistributed to the peasants had taken place shortly after the communists had come to power.
Collectivisation, where peasants lost their own pieces of land and instead worked for wages on land owned by the state had also begun to take place.
Mao believed this was not enough to expand both agricultural and industrial production and instead introduced the second five-year plan in 1958.
This would become known as the ‘Great Leap Forward’.
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Sources:
Tombstone. The Untold story of Mao’s Great Famine.
By Yang Jisheng.
Red Inc.: Dictatorship and the Development of Capitalism in China, 1949-2009
By Robert K. Schaeffer
Socialism in China (1919-1965)
By Yu Youjun
Mao's Great Famine: The History of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, 1958-62
By Frank Dikötter
The Great Famine in China, 1958-1962: A Documentary History

[@Mitjitsu]

Even Stalin said Mao was out of control and that's coming from a madman.

[@josephstalin364]

EXCUSE ME!?!

[@Mitjitsu]

@@josephstalin364 At least you had swag ;-)

[@Autobotmatt428]

When did he say that?

[@mastrorick]

that was a tantrum of Stalin. He stated the same about Trotsky

[@powerofthetime]

Share my version, i am a capitalist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3PCeKtmabCYlbM

[@gtlegacy8]

When you have no idea wtf you're doing in Civilization 5.

[@piggsy20]

More like when you know wtf you’re doing

[@thejackmage9656]

its literally just turning every tile you owned into a mine or a factory. idk what y'all were expecting.

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

I like how casual letting your people starve to death is in Civ games. Like people don't really mind dying or being nuked.

[@thejackmage9656]

@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Man you're a god trying to shape the entire world as you know it over the span of eons, in one turn you can outlive anywhere from three to five generations Why wouldn't it be casual?

[@MichaelDavis-mk4me]

@@thejackmage9656 Because it would cause an incredible amount of unrest which should be incredibly annoying. Your people riot if they don't have oranges and diamonds in the late game, but don't care about the fact that they are starving. In history, having starvation in your kingdom was a really big deal. Also, time slows down when you get late game, at the end, by the 1980's, you only pass a year each turn.

[@IAmMadMan]

I still remember my History teacher saying "Great Leap Forward, more like a giant step back." She was right.

[@Argos-xb8ek]

But it did end up modernizing China. With the millions of deaths and suffering this was truly a horrible time to live in.

[@proudfirebrand3946]

@@Argos-xb8ek The woes of economy of progress.

[@fieliep1040]

well it's what my teachers said too, I guess it is right

[@bagels725]

I prefer "Not So Great Stumble Backwards".

[@MasayaShida]

@@Argos-xb8ek there is literally no way the "great leap forward" contributed to modernization

[@JayJay-wf2oe]

My grandma lived through that period of time. To this day she still doesn't waste a single grain of rice. She often asks me to eat as much as possible in fear of I would suddenly die of hunger.

[@dravenocklost4253]

Heartbreaking

[@richbrake9910]

You better eat Jay, a similar situation may happen all over again within next 30 years

[@JacobLozano-mr8ll]

@@richbrake9910 in the USA dude? 😑

[@LadyLiberty-c8i]

@@JacobLozano-mr8ll Facts don’t care about your feelings.

[@catsnmi270]

Ah, bless her dear soul!

[@josephb.4640]

“Did you ever hear the Tragedy of the Great Leap Forward?” “No.” “It’s not a story the Chinese government would tell you.”

[@bockscar1]

Neither is cultural Revolution ! Great leap forward 76 millions deaths Cultural revolution 20 millions of deaths ! Hmm it's time for the Chinese communist party to step down !

[@josephb.4640]

I don’t understand how people can look at China and go “oh, what a magical, mysterious place! I want to live there!” Other than the cities where market-based exchange is allowed, China is absolutely terrifying. Always remember, Communism has killed almost 10x more people than the Holocaust...

[@MiekuahProductions]

Everyting that included in Tiananmen Copypasta is what the Chinese Goverment is hiding from us.

[@CaptainM792]

Histocrat 641402 I am Chinese and we learned this during History lessons in Hong Kong schools.

[@josephb.4640]

M Lau - That’s good, but you probably already know that Hong Kong is very different from mainland China, where they take any chance they get to promote themselves, even dishonestly.

[@CommanderTornado]

1 step forward, 60 million steps back

[@rafiqulislamfaruk1892]

You reminded me with the song, One step forward and two steps back from San andreas XD

[@nonautemrexchristus5637]

@Jay Blake you miss the entire video here, Communism in any country afflicted by it's awful ideology is directly responsible for more deaths under their own leadership than modern capitalism has in it's entire history Was the plague a capitalist mass genocide like the holodomor because a ship with produce on it had plague ridden rats inside? Your ideology has no virtue, it's a disease on this Earth, go back to starving yourself in a commune you leach to society

[@OverlordGrizzaka]

@Jay Blake if you're gunna post BS at least make it believable. These deaths too were brought by collectivism.

[@connorsproles9239]

Jay Blake Soooo...... could you maybe be more specific. I'm not asking for sources; just name actual events. Please and thank you!

[@accent1666]

@Jay Blake dude, watch the video, its VERY CLEAR Communism is a MURDEROUS Ideology!

[@akeller4265]

It's astounding how little about Mao is taught in US schools today

[@user-dk9dx3xb2t]

There are hundreds of thousands of years of history, school is about 12 years long

[@BuiltSimilarG]

We only focus on US

[@candyjack3659]

@@BuiltSimilarG And we don't even focus on that these days.

[@BuiltSimilarG]

@@candyjack3659 Bruh

[@raptorshinryu]

Freshman year: SLAVERY Sophomore year: COLONIZATION Junior year: SLAVERY Senior year: COLONIZATION

[@hughboyd2904]

Incredibly, Orwell predicted all of this in Animal Farm, over a decade before these events occurred - the shortages, the inadequacy of unskilled labour in manufacturing, and the purges of anyone who disagreed with the plan. Of course he was writing about the situation that unfolded in soviet Russia, but incredibly the Chinese leadership seemed happy to repeat the Soviet’s mistakes, and condemn so many of their own people to starvation.

[@klm9440]

I read 1984 and I’m reading life and death in Shanghai and the parallels are scary

[@arcturus4762]

It’s funny how Animal Farm can easily apply to any dictatorial revolution, especially Communist ones, and there’s still tankies defending Communism by saying “Animal Farm is not about Communism”

[@sidneym8895]

Lao She, a famous writer in China said this is some sci-fi delusion after reading the 1984. Eventually, he committed suicide during the cultural revolution launched by chairman Mao.😂

[@Eren-xh9ky]

​@@klm9440i'm Chinese,and you right

[@Eren-xh9ky]

​@@sidneym8895Lao She's death can't be blamed for this. He is a man who has a great sense of face. But he was criticized during the Cultural Revolution, so he committed suicide

[@RoopeRontu1999]

Chinese farmers: kill sparrows Crickets: Hippity hoppity, your food is our property.

[@RoopeRontu1999]

@array s I doubt that would be a good idea, if they've been killed with spray or something.

[@pckkaboo6800]

Ever tried fried crickets? XD

[@RoopeRontu1999]

@@pckkaboo6800 No. They don't bring them in my country in other form than as baked in a loaf of bread.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@pckkaboo6800 In Mexico, a species of grasshopper can be bred for food. It is fed spices and herbs, and then is toasted with garlic until it turns dark red. It tastes fresh and crunchy like spicy chips. It's called "Chapulín", like "El Chapulín colorado", a very popular TV character.

[@testserver2054]

Then eats cricket

[@austinsmurf9298]

My Grandfather lived through this and somehow survived.

[@seventhplace]

Mine too. Cheers

[@Hxoibrixks]

Man at least my grandmother lived in Hong Kong

[@zehuayang3943]

@@Hxoibrixks the British didn’t treat Hong Kongers good either. Hong Kong also protests Ed British rule in which the British killed Hong Kong protesters

[@bent8085]

My grandpa went through the gulag system and also survived somehow

[@austinsmurf9298]

@berat ergin if their grandads died they wouldn’t even exist rn

[@skaterpulse6746]

It's sad to see alot of people starting to glorify Mao and his revolution in the west

[@potatoesandducks958]

Who?

[@AVI-lh6rm]

@@potatoesandducks958 there's always gonna be stupid people in the world. it dont matter where you look, theres stupid people in any single community, and those stupid people always end up being the face of the community they "represent" to the outside world. people like that exist, but far and few between, but putting into scale the negativity bias, the internet, and modern politics, most people dont even think of others as humans in politics so now many people think that nazis are a huge problem or that communists are a huge problem. they both exist and are a problem, but really aren't starting some kind of huge revolution on behalf of the left/right.

[@bingchilling5504]

@@TheDigitalApple what about those stuff where you ship some austrian dude with the thing that is related to what your saying.

[@nikhilpranav6915]

In Parasite, the wealthy family's kid was pretending to be in a worse situation than he was. In the west, people find very legitimate flaws of capitalism, and instead of easily solving them, the American public wants to switch to communism or socialism. At this point, calling them peasants should be justified.

[@TeraBitts]

It's even worse how that is not a taboo like nazism is when both ideologies are inhumane.

[@compatriot852]

When you're so insane that even Stalin has to call you out

[@thunderbird1921]

In 1969, when the Soviets and Chinese were having a huge border dispute skirmish, Brezhnev was so furious with Mao that he was ready to launch nukes on them. The only reason he didn't is because Nixon told him not to (as he stated America had "interests" in the Chinese region). It certainly is a powerful thought as to how different history could have gone if the US let them do it.

[@tastefullyoffensive2412]

@@thunderbird1921 It wouldn’t have been a good idea, if the US nuked them WW3 would have kicked off

[@thunderbird1921]

@@tastefullyoffensive2412 I meant what could have happened if America let the Soviets nuke China. We would have had one of the ugliest wars in human history between the Communist powers, and one can only imagine how the rest of humanity would have dealt with it.

[@tastefullyoffensive2412]

@@thunderbird1921 Oh ok, now I understand. Thank you!

[@dr.woozie7500]

Stalin died in 1953… Great Leap Forward started in 1958

[@dennisalindogan3498]

story told by my father: His family were one of the wealthiest in the city during this period. They were living the best of their lives until the great leap happened. Land reform took all of his family's assets, leaving only one house for them to live in--my grandfather,grandmother, and 8 kids. My grandfather was drafted to the factory and my grandmother was drafted to the kitchen, being businessman, they had to learn everything from scratch. Food rations are given to them everyday. However, the given ration was not enough to feed the family, so they had to add water to their rice and make porridge. My grandmother, working in the kitchen, tries to sneak food everyday to give to her kids. This goes on until my grandparents died. Once my father's siblings are grown up, they are then sent to provinces far from home to work in factories. Thinking about this now, it pains my heart knowing my father has suffered so much during his childhood. From wealthy to poor in an instant with no parents to guide them during the day.

[@anonymousanimal1534]

Which city was he from? Did his family try escaping before the communists took over?

[@alleviatedaubergine8130]

Would you happen to know what your family did for a living?

[@dennisalindogan3498]

@@alleviatedaubergine8130 They ran a textile business.

[@dennisalindogan3498]

@@anonymousanimal1534 They were from Xiamen, Fujian.

[@alleviatedaubergine8130]

Ok, while I cannot empathize with your loss, I can extend my sympathies, however little they are worth.

[@mistermarcus4281]

It is a real shame that everyone knows the horrors of the Nazis, but people don't know anything about the things that happened in Imperial Japan, Communist China or Soviet Russia.

[@bobs_toys]

It's why I sum up Mao as two Hitlers and a Stalin

[@nikhilpranav6915]

Never ask the Japanese what they did in WW2

[@xxxBradTxxx]

Seriously the Japanese killed more people than the Nazis, but it’s not spoken about in the West for some reason.

[@nischaymiglani2617]

What about Winston Churchill ?

[@youssefkandeel145]

We all know that the good guys won every major war, it says it here in my history book​@@nischaymiglani2617

[@samcompany7083]

A farm worker greets Josef Stalin at his potato farm. “Comrade Stalin, we have so many potatoes that, piled one on top of the other, they would reach all the way to God,” the farmer excitedly tells his leader. “But God does not exist,” replies Stalin. “Exactly,” says the farmer. “Neither do the potatoes.”

[@manicdgr]

Then the farmer is brutally tortured and left to rot at vorkuta gulag

[@p3pable]

The lols are real though

[@jameshailerthepostmaster4389]

This Enraged Stalin who punished him Severely

[@atomicbuttocks]

Gamer moment

[@manicdgr]

@MarineSlayer And then he sacrifices himself to save the American

[@kalpeshmanna7233]

Stalin: let's collect food Everybody: dies Mao: we should try that again 🤔

[@jackp.richardson6415]

*I'll fuckin' do it again*

[@karwan6385]

Dead meme.

[@dakari2027]

Weeaboo Karwan yet a timeless message

[@Nmdixon-cu7vm]

Kalpesh Manna college kids today: We can get it right this time.

[@taiwoolaleye6333]

are you dumb? you see the problem was misinformation about farming and inexperienced undertrained factory workers. let's compare these issues to the US shall we, slavery, no human rights to workers, exploiting child labor, and forced drafting to war, etc. also they gave food not collect them

[@afif8472]

Mao: This will be called The Great Leap Forward Communism: *UNO REVERSE CARD*

[@the4thindustrialrevolution225]

Communism* not nature

[@afif8472]

@@the4thindustrialrevolution225 yikes im dumb

[@the4thindustrialrevolution225]

@@afif8472 No you're not. it's just a mistake.

[@calmdown4140]

Battlefield 4 the Great Leap Forward DLC

[@大塒昭]

A.K.A The Great Leap Backward

[@kylewilson2819]

Mao: We are going to make a Great Leap Forward! Chinese Civilians: That is fantastic! Where are we leaping? Mao: This cliff over here!

[@tachyon8317]

Mao: into this big pit. Just ignore the soldiers with ak47s.

[@kronoso_o8042]

@@tachyon8317 also ignore those flames coming from the pit

[@discmanthecdlord]

@@kronoso_o8042 he's also ignoring all those piranhas right?

[@bringdislikesback8078]

True

[@tritium1998]

They did gain more food and people despite you losers crying with your cartoon propaganda though.

[@BHuang92]

I have parents and grandparents that survived the Great Leap Forward. Basically, they had almost nothing to eat. Meat was non-existent and only ate low-quality vegetables. My grandfather on my mom's side was sent to a "reformation" camp for a while and really didn't tell how much he much abuse he endured. My grand-uncle on my dad's side was a jerk for being highly prominent and highly convicted to the Communist party while leaving his family to starve in the countryside. Although he passed away, my dad's father lived a happy life, more so than his brother. To this day, my parents have an absolute hatred for socialism.

[@thessop9439]

Run from china please. You are welcome in Argentina. Even in my house .

[@Bananappleboy]

Why do we all have to wear these ridiculous white backdrops?!

[@matthewcollins4764]

Lauti Cruz how could he be living in China if he is making this comment and watching a video probably banned they have very restrictive internet rules if he lives in China he would be doing this illegally and would be caught

[@dardalion3199]

It is so sad how much suffering the Chinese people endured throughout the 20th century.

[@mingyuanliu2285]

@@thessop9439 Funny, so you can provide accomodation to them along with other Nazis who fled from the defeat in 1945? Did everyone simply disregard the reason why his family got into those situation? Those end up in camps are the few who used to get fed by exploiting others, take no responsiblity in defending the facists Japanese invader when the whole country is shattering, and still dreaming about their "modern nobility" when the majority of people came to power. I can understand it could never be happy knowing one's ancestor had something to suffer, but it's just the time for them to take their toll.

[@jpjpjp453]

"When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill" Mao Zedong 1959 Edit-After looking around some i found a transcript in Chinese and translated it. Yes, the quote is actually out of context but in light of Mao's murderous ideology i think the post is worth keeping. Anyone wanting another real doozy, look into the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976)

[@nikitaastakhov9252]

Thanos?

[@dwimrel]

That has always been the collectivist view. They call it the "end of hostory". The fantasy that you can stabilize human endeavor, growth, and invention into a standstill. They would rather kill millions than to use scientific progress to feed them.

[@kalpeshmanna7233]

A small sacrifice for salvation 😌

[@ppainterco]

Kalpesh Manna thats a horrible, worthless and dehumanizing sacrifice to make. It’s a waste of humanity. And it wasn’t salvation, it’s feudalism under the guise of communism.

[@kurtengel4652]

Mao : I am.. Inevitable

[@deleted_215]

Mongols: “We killed the most Chinese people!” Japan: “No, WE did!” China: “Amateurs”

[@robwalsh9843]

Just look at Chinese history. They've probably had more civil wars than any surviving nation of today.

[@ennui9745]

Hilarious how the CCP brainwashes mainland Chinese into hating Japan for killing Chinese people, when the CCP itself killed more Chinese people than Japan ever did.

[@kuomingangenjoyer3242]

@@ennui9745 for a party that got saved by the japanese, the CCP is sure the most ungrateful one i have ever seen

[@ennui9745]

@@kuomingangenjoyer3242 Exactly.

[@nikhilpranav6915]

@@ennui9745 I mean... Japan has trade embargos with any country that teaches the tragedy of Nanking, so I see a big reason to hate Japan.

[@mikelramirez2585]

Foreign nations: Dude... you need any help? Mao: Nah! it's all good. Foreign nations: B-but people are dying in mass... Mao: No they're not...

[@mykobe981]

Hmm.. Sounds kinda familiar. Mao: I have perfected Megalomaniacal Sociopathic Narcissism!!! Trump: Lol..

[@Gamer88334]

Jay Blake They aren’t saying he hid it. They’re saying he refused help that China needed.

[@notdave2993]

OrigamiOwl ya, but trump isn’t killing millions.

[@TastyEmpire51]

Cmon, it was only 45million out of billion

[@ethangreenlee7576]

Lmao.

[@colinsimon777]

When the narrator said "they copied the Soviet system" he forgot to mention that also starved tens of millions of people to death.

[@tachyon8317]

Yeah. The Holomar sucked the big red one

[@superp2222]

There’s a brilliant Chinese film about a family that survived all of Mao’s five year plans and the Cultural Revolution. The film is called To Live and its seen as a masterpiece of historical storytelling

[@kristinahuchison2511]

There’s another one called China Cry. My mom bought that for me for Christmas because I had an interest in Asian culture. She had absolutely no idea it was based on a true woman’s story of the Great Leap Forward. Same with Hachi on the famous Japanese Akita dog.

[@07wrxtr1]

The Sequel is called: “Build, back, better”

[@darkblood626]

Houses of happyness sounds like something stright out of an Orwell novel.

[@jackmaitland8496]

I mean they were just places the elderly could go in the day

[@cheesedetectiverook5950]

Damn, this is just like 1984

[@redips8947]

The Earth's greatest weight loss program.

[@grantm.5975]

Redips well said

[@psychronic8327]

Mad STONKS

[@emanonymous]

maybe this is why all the fat feminists want socialism

[@johnrichardson7310]

Its better than weight watchers that's for sure. Communism you will lose weight and more guaranteed!

[@kieyanborg1454]

Kim Jong Un needs this

[@roarlisfang2860]

My grandfather was in a landlord family at the time when the Land Reform took place. He and his family were beaten severely and sent to the city factory as workers, his house was confiscated. This cruelty they've done to him actually saved his life, as during the Great Leap Forward, city workers were fed well at the price of starvation in the countryside. 20 years later when the Cultural Revolution ended, he returned to the countryside and saw the old house emptied. The farmers who took his house all starved to death years ago. We refused to live in that house and left it emptied, until two years ago my father sold that house to the government as they wanted to construct a road over it.

[@kanekochera57]

Cat, dog and rat meat were prevalent. There's a dog meat festival in China.

[@kadafi4lyf]

When did the government return your grandfather's house to him? Was there a whole era when confiscated property was returned to those that mao took it from?

[@roarlisfang2860]

@@kadafi4lyf There was a redress act(拨乱反正, Boluan Fanzheng) after the Cultural Revolution, which happened during 1978-1989. In this period Deng Xiaoping corrected a large part of Mao's mistakes and restored operation of the country to some extent. Grandpa's property was returned at about 1980, due to the government finding out most of his "crime records" were forged by farmers who held a hostile attitude towards land lord families. (Yes, before 1978, if you want your neighbor killed or beaten in China you can just report him by whatever reason you want. That's how scary it was.)

[@hasaansamad2995]

I've lived in china for almost an year. I just want to ask. Do the people who experienced these atrocities first hand still support the current governments stand that mao was a hero. And also what you guys are taught in schools regarding it.

[@roarlisfang2860]

@@hasaansamad2995 It may surprise you that, China actually talks about the GLP and Cultural Revolution in textbooks (in the version I was taught at least). They admit those were Mao's mistake, but under the condition that "He was misdirected by some malicious actors in the party". Quite a part of content in this video are mentioned, but they didn't say how many people were killed and they insist that the main cause of the starvation is land drought / other natural disasters. As for the survivors' stand, I can't say for sure. Talking about that period can be traumatizing for some of them, so usually we chose not to.

[@U.S.President]

My mom's family is from Beijing, during the great leap forward, My grandparents would bring wild animals back home for consumption. they also had to save the limited egg ration quotas for my mom's younger brother (my uncle)... That was in Beijing, the capital of China... you can imagine what was happening in other cities or even villages in countryside.

[@LordDirus007]

People are freaked out by the random things Chinese People eat. Like Bats, Beavers, Dogs, and other exotic Animals. However given the History of the Great Leap Forward. It sort of makes sense why. Their Grandparents had to eat whatever was around

[@Awfulfeature]

“We made China communist!” “What about the food?” *”you wouldn’t get it.”*

[@candyjack3659]

"Real food hasn't been tried before!"

[@SnipSnip477]

@@candyjack3659 Cringe antifa soy boy memes

[@who2807]

@@SnipSnip477 Vi estas malinteligenta se vos pensas tio estis cringe

[@reynanlamsen2007]

@@SnipSnip477 Cringe “Real Communist hasn’t been tried before” enjoyer

[@PerSon-xg3zr]

@@SnipSnip477........... Communism is a leftist ideology stupid.

[@leanneli2588]

And the sad thing is that while most older generations remembered this part of history, they are getting old and too traumatized to tell the tales to their grandchildren… Or that people who survived the period are those who were benefited from other people's suffering. Truth is, not many young generations know much about their own history, and all they're talking about is how communist party of China succeeded their people. Now both Mao and Xi is godly feature in China, and people would not allow anyone to criticize their Gods

[@07wrxtr1]

We have the sequel now: Build back better

[@fristnamelastname5549]

"We got a plan to modernize China. It's call The Great Leap Forward." - China 1958 "Nothing is going on in Tiananmen Square." - China 1989 "There is no protesting in Hong Kong. Who ever says otherwise is a liar, and should watch...I am will probably disappear....I mean will go on a long vacation." -China 2019 "There is this virus. That is in no way deadly to anyone." -China 2020

[@gizmobalboa2106]

CCP: 'no human to human transmission' late January (when they knew) WHO: Ok then, you heard it lads. Nothing to worry about, go about your day

[@goldhetman729]

China's 4 big lies

[@hardaatsinghbaath7475]

Ah I see, you are not the only one cursed with Knowledge -

[@0Adnin]

Legitly one of the finest comments in here.

[@jacksonpettit4690]

After wild farming was permitted because of the famines caused by Mao this virus has been the direct result. Mao why are u still killing people???!!!

[@anthonyle7795]

Mao: we shall give all land to the people Rural bois: this sounds good Mao: also you're going to Chinese gulags

[@yuanluo1139]

hope all foreign people know what happened and happening now in CHINA ' CHINIA IS NOT PANDA CHINA IS BITTER SNAKE Chinese CURSE amaerican everyday , american goverment never told you that !!!!!

[@viettrungnguyen1242]

It's called reeducation study camp.

[@BarrowX]

@@viettrungnguyen1242 Nice newspeak there comrade.

[@juanding1442]

Anthony Le lmao

[@yuanluo1139]

@TheGreaterGood80 i'm a chinese i know how ccp tought people to hate america

[@fishnchipss924]

Mao: "Everyone please kill the sparrows, they're eating all the crops" Nature: *booms cricket population because there was no predators Mao: *surprised pikachu face*

[@Killjoy45]

Mao: Nature is an agent of Imperialistic Capitalists!

[@netuzer5895]

L MAO!!!

[@suvamkumarsarangi6593]

Now they are eating cricket.

[@abloogywoogywoo]

I laughed at the big rat appearing, because tiny annoying sparrows, don't eat rodents.

[@bockscar1]

LMAO

[@dgayle2348]

Whenever I watch Naruto and criticise Madara's plan for being so stupid I remember Mao and think, "Eh, well."

[@erickmoczulski1582]

Well said.

[@CBRN-115]

Funny thing is, Mao's picture still hangs on the Tienanmen Square. He laughed at all those starving people, he laughs again at the dying people who wanted freedom. Real funny

[@deadlockraven1849]

It's funny how the best I have heard of the Chinese government was in Ancient History.

[@thejohn6614]

I believe he's still on the currency. I have a Chinese bill with his picture on it.

[@bluecaptainIT]

@@fcondro so what? Does plastic surgery laugh in the face of dying people? Does it pretend starvation is just a myth to take power over the authority? Whatever link you are making, I cannot see it nor understand it.

[@elchinoguerito8915]

It’s funny, in Beijing, his photo and image is everywhere. I kid you not, he’s got merchandise everywhere. He’s still held in high regard there despite everything he’s done. Even dedicated an entire building for his grave. Wonder what a Chinese history book looks like

[@CBRN-115]

@@fcondro whatever you say, wu mao slave

[@akuinator6350]

"Black humor is like communist food." "I don't get it." "Exactly."

[@andydavis3075]

Black humor?

[@garreiro100]

You had one job.

[@XXStrong1]

Andy Davis dark/gallows humor. Has nothing to do with race if that’s what you’re asking.

[@localshithead7430]

I’ve seen a lot of variations of this joke, and this is definitely the shittiest one.

[@mrsky67]

@@localshithead7430 Clearly its not, since you took the time out to respond, and notice it.

[@thegrimcritic5494]

I’ve had professors that defended this man. Defended him. I just… I don’t understand.

[@nikolascepanovic539]

Your professors were right, you've just been brainwashed by bourgeois lies about this great man.

[@07wrxtr1]

Because education was the very first area the marxists tookover in the 60’s…. Now it’s the DEI bs - Boeing disney etc…

[@patricksullivan7140]

Because your professor is Commie

[@josem588]

I imagine they were in China

[@ranelgallardo7031]

If you think about it Mao Zedong was Thanos before Marvel created Thanos.

[@randied603]

L *MAO

[@rjn1749]

Except Thanos had a point. mao is just pure idiot.

[@randallrona9618]

That made more sense.

[@Nachoto]

When you scare off crop-eating birds allowing crop-eating bugs to roam freely *Task failed succesfully*

[@Heavywall70]

Every potential bureaucrat; All I can see is my nose Mao; “you’ll die quite nicely”

[@antekknapek4635]

task failed un succesfully

[@edwardmaginot]

More like **Task succeed with failure**

[@Octovisuals]

Not scare off, but exterminate, extinguish completely.

[@madaxe606]

Reddit Communists: "Well, ACKSHULLY....."

[@blankblank5409]

Nope

[@1911Zoey]

@Minecraft Veteran try visiting r/worldpolitics

[@sasori9624]

@Minecraft Veteran r/sino

[@anonymoose8020]

Minecraft Veteran none of them call themselves commies but the political subreddits have a heavy left wing bias, stay away from those shitholes

[@1911Zoey]

@@patricks1333 Yeah, because mortality rate is so important that we ignore other underlying problems such as people disappearing when they dissent, suppression of free speech, loss of privacy and the brainwashing of ethnic minorities because China good. Your opinion is a joke.

[@outdoorscholar6016]

My high school teacher once explained the Great Leap Forward in this manner: She asked for a volunteer, told them to face the wall leaving about an inch from his face. She then said “ok now jump forward as far as you can”, and there was an audible this as his forehead came into contact with the wall.

[@shturm602]

Great Leap Forward into big time insanity, retardation, and hunger

[@PartnershipsForYou]

This is such a blatant lie that it’s hilarious you even posted it

[@yoboikamil525]

@@PartnershipsForYou as someone who's from an European school, this sounds pretty plausible if OP comes from Europe

[@aimarov.5568]

When you force the farmers to make steel out of kitchen utensils SMITHING *100*

[@Biesliek1]

Empire is the best.

[@The1RedRooster]

Ohh Ahh! YOU'VE REACHED LEVEL 100

[@Lolypop123]

Biesliek1 stuff the imperial empire the stormcloaks are better

[@bangscutter]

More accurately: "The Great Leap Backwards".

[@Kyle_Schaff]

Most accurately: “The Great Leap Forward… Off the Stool”.

[@ECP90]

Racist

[@littlemorven8992]

As a Chinese from Hong Kong, this is surprisingly true

[@XXStrong1]

EastCoast Podcast What?

[@maxchangarrido7841]

@@ECP90 how?

[@joestarjookenblue2364]

no wonder my former kmt grandpa hates mao zedong so much

[@Th0mat0]

“Some of you may die and that is the sacrifice I am willing to make.”

[@Panther93225]

They got into a civil war, got owned by Japanese, got into another civil war, got involved in Korean War, and then the Great Leap Forward... my goodness China... 😂

[@unknownmasksw2serialirious580]

They lost almost every war they go to except going war against themselves

[@WarriorofChrist612]

@@unknownmasksw2serialirious580 China got a huge nerf after the 1800’s, good thing they got recently buffed but now they’re too overpowered.

[@verden2323]

@@WarriorofChrist612 oof china gonna fall if they started another war

[@basedkaiser5352]

@@unknownmasksw2serialirious580 They won the Korean War, they successfully repelled the U.N forces despite being heavily under-industrialized.

[@prathikjain8950]

@The Professional it was a stalemate you peabrain

[@osuna3525]

*_"But that wasn't real communism"_*

[@Suth1172]

Hate to be that guy, but China wasn't communist, Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society where workers own the means of production. Is the Democratic Republic of Korea Democratic? If we called it so then what do we call a country that is democratic?

[@akumabakemono1447]

@@Suth1172 Of course Communism and Socialism are not the same (Socialism is the transition system betwen Capitalism and Communism) and Communism is basically Anarchism (a World without States, classes, money, private ownership, etc). But we (the ones who criticize Marxism) use Communism and Socialism as synonyms: all marxists call themselves "socialists" or "communists", so all of them want the same "Capitalism=>Abolish Capitalism=>Socialism=>Comunism" formula.

[@starguardianlux8036]

you discredit the marxists who internally criticize maoists and stalinists (tankies)

[@vondondolo1582]

@Sue Martino It's not about trust, it's about enforcing public sovereignty. Conservatives trust that removing democratic elections in favor of corporate control will result in less government, rather than the explosion of corporate welfare it always produces. Democrats want to tie government to public services that expand the resources available to small business and free enterprise. Burning the flag is what you get when people are hurt by what that flag represents. If that isn't understandable, you either have lead poisoning or you aren't human.

[@stealthyshadow567]

Oskar sutherland China at the peek of the great leap forward was exactly what Marx dreamed of. It WAS following Marxism like a bible, land redistribution, equal rations, drafting into the work force, “power” to the people. I will acknowledge now China is getting closer to capitalism but many of its communist policies remain and it is still socially a communist state.

[@sirduo2845]

My grandparents said that during the great leap forward people ate clay and dirt to fill their bellies or just sesame seed oil in water to give them some flavour...those were certainly horrible times.

[@qwerty9878]

One of my friend's dad ABSOLUTELY hates the communist party. According to him, his father's grandpa was really rich and worked for the communist party. But he got thrown into jail because he is simply not chinese and they said he "might betray". They had numerous ways of torturing him, like letting him starve for days before giving a potato. After a few years, he was released. He went mad and did suicide after a week. This is just absurd.

[@07wrxtr1]

Sort of like what they want to do to Trump people

[@theunforgiven9386]

PRC: *Chases off Sparrows* Vermins: It's free real estate

[@abloogywoogywoo]

Odd, I chased off the Sparrows and rats in my area, and the thrushes, robins and blackbirds all returned. Obviously he couldn't even do pest control properly.

[@herrkommandank675]

"it's evolving, but backwards" basically the summarization of this period.

[@patricks1333]

And no famines ever happened under capitalism? Silly. Red China lifted nearly a billion people out of poverty, they saved billions of lives. Read this study then! ”China's growth in life expectancy between 1950 and 1980 ranks as among the most rapid sustained increases in documented global history.” Source: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4331212/

[@melissasmith6152]

stop copy and pasting

[@themaus3847]

Patrick S that’s propaganda.

[@zhouenlaienjoyer6306]

They made mistakes you ignoramus. You make it sound like somehow, the second five-year plan under Mao was an extermination campaign. It was not. It was an economic program intended to speed the construction of their industrial base. It backfired & accounting for the floods and droughts, made those times worse. Having an honest conversation on this topic is impossible because people are shrieking that 'if only they had Western freedoms.' That's not an argument. www.invent-the-future.org/2013/12/monster-liberator-legacy-mao-zedong/

[@herrkommandank675]

​@@zhouenlaienjoyer6306 In practice, it caused widespread Famine and more damage to their agriculture sector rather than improving it (By rigorous farming that affects the soil fertility, and other shenanigans the CCP did) Although the first few years has somewhat improved food supply and the quality of life (within farming communes), overall, it's an ineffective economic program that caused significantly more harm than benefits

[@ouioui4136]

No wonder my dad is so much shorter than me lmao he was born in 1962

[@mirzaahmed6589]

L Mao?

[@StarvEgoFeedSoul]

lMao 🤣🤣🤣

[@mostdefinitelynotadurian]

Oof

[@somepersonontheinternet6879]

Hey at least he lived

[@MrBannystar]

"Chairman Mao did more good than harm" - UK Labour MP, Dianne Abbott. Jesus.

[@MrPants-zu6dm]

Wow.

[@paulmccarter908]

I find it telling no one questions the western propaganda; it's like established fact because everyone says it.

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

Having the power that Mao had over his people is the wet dream of every leftist around the world, here in Brazil some communist fucks praises Mao all the time and tell the people he was a hero.

[@rmm2530]

@@LucasCunhaRocha E o mais engraçado é que eles adoram misturar narrativas se dizendo a favor das minorias, mas se eles vivessem na era de Mao ou de Stalin todos eles já teriam sido executados.

[@250-s3o]

@@LucasCunhaRocha mao wasnt a hero lol its due to a "famine" that killed the people

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture4486]

Great Leap Forward in a nutshell: China takes a huge leap! Into a long hole of starvation and depression

[@chrishayes5755]

Hi Uncle Joe, I'm a huge fan. Especially of what you accomplished on March 1st 1953!! That was your finest work :)

[@Gg-qx3vo]

You would know a lot about taking a huge leap Ioseb.

[@arandomzoomer4837]

China takes a huge leap and misses.

[@Monarch_Prime]

PREVIET

[@nightingaleseraph]

Leche de caballo you miss 100% of the leaps you don’t take.

[@anonymousanimal1534]

Something worth noting that wasn't mentioned in the video: Collectivization based on "satellite quotas"(放卫星), fictional harvest statistics that were blown out of proportion exponentially, were enforced by Mao and local officials. As a result, a significant portion of the 45 million deaths were beaten or torture to death in "anti-production-hiding" campaigns (反瞒产), which forced peasants into admitting to harvests that did not exist through violence. Those who survived the beatings and tortures were starved to death later because collectivization based on such quotas took even the last seeds away from them.

[@bon7029]

Any time I see someone saying they want communism. I just remind them of Stalin and Mao.

[@gorkyd7912]

Monarchy has a better track record than Communism. Being ruled by a single inbred royal who got the job by having the correct parents has worked incredibly better for humanity than being ruled by a group of sociopaths who believe in Marx's bullshit.

[@Cairo40000]

@@gorkyd7912 tell that to the french

[@novvain495]

"Communism" is a broad term so that person may be referring to something like council communism (decentralised and controlled by worker councils), which isn't very comparable to either of those dictators

[@roberthorning8768]

There are virtually no people today who promote communism. Maybe NK. Socialism has become very successful when part of a mixed economy like Sweden and China. If you think modern socialism is synonymous with communism, you’re an idiot. I have lived in China for seven years. I have looked for a commune and found none. So just how many people are you reminding of Stalin and Mao? Since nobody truly wants Mao’s or Stalin’s form of communism, I’m guessing zero.

[@thunderbird1921]

@@Cairo40000 Napoleon III actually was working fairly well for them for a while...until he botched foreign policy stuff in the 1860s. It's safe to say that the Bonapartes (with all their flaws) were better than at least 2-3 of their 5 republics.

[@JF_HoangAnh]

Mao Zedong took a great leap foward. Unfortunately, he leaped China right into a very deep hole.

[@noblegrizzlybear5475]

This reminds me of a slogan by the Bulgarian communist party. "Before 9th of September, 1944 (The date of the communist coup d'etat), Bulgaria was at the cliff's edge. After 9th of September, 1944, she took a great step forward.". I wish this was an anecdote, but no.

[@jamesricker3997]

It is said the Great Leap Forward and the cultural revolution set China back 30 years

[@notlikely4468]

Well...they're the worlds #2 superpower And moving up Is that...backwards?

[@Dance_Party]

not likely Yeah they’re the number 2 superpower, but at a cost. They build abandoned and empty infrastructure in order to gain GDP. A lot of people in China are struggling a lot, but China builds a lot of ghost villages and uses other tactics to get to the top. You’ll see in a few decades when their power collapses due to the unethical ways they gain economic power.

[@notlikely4468]

@@Dance_Party China's debt to GDP is 54% USA's debt to GDP is 105% Guess who I'll be betting on.....

[@JesusismyHopeandMyStrength]

Zhong Xina will never told you this in Public American School.

[@55_reasons_why74]

ah yes, the second time humans lost to birds in a war

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

Yeah, and people think feathered dinosaurs are not scary...

[@lazyboi1637]

@dopey nope they did not they lost it

[@pomniplushie833]

@dopey only 3000 died, not really endangered when they still continue harassing crops everywhere

[@pomniplushie833]

@dopey also countless rounds need to be fired just to kill a very few percent? Yeah I think the emus won the war

[@phamthienphuc3951]

this time the bird were all like "Alright, have fun without us doing our job then"

[@dm3619]

Never was taught about mao in school and I think the reason is that the US gov wants to do something similar to what he did

[@brandonhernandez116]

No

[@gsuhz41]

Surely you had your tinfoil hat and condom on when making this comment, yes?

[@Enri2447]

Lmao

[@abdirahmanidris290]

Yeah. Agenda 2030. Everyone will be given a certain amount of food and clothing. Its just the New World Order.

[@VWYL900802]

My dad was in China during the Great Leap Forward and the cultural revolution. He was 8 during the Great Leap Forward and because he was young, he had 1 bowl of plain rice with soy sauce a day as oppose to grandma, uncle and aunt, who didn’t get to eat anything. They live in the agriculture class but even so, the produce was state own at the time. My dad also saw and experienced the cultural revolution. The high hats, the chains, the public shaming, the “weekly meetings”, remember this was a country farm land in China where my dad lived and there was 200 years of ancestry, so it was a tight knit community, but to be weekly checked by your clan is a bit much for a kid to witness every week. So growing up, my dad wasn’t really that close to his family, and also has trouble with control in his own family. Back home for him though, The Great Famine ended not in 1962, but 1964.

[@tusuong7654]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3m1YmiArciekMkThe Human Cost Of Mao's 'Great Leap Forward' | Mao's Great Famine | Timeline

[@nurbmanjones1709]

Bruh

[@ninpolife7749]

Another sad fact is that tons of food molded over unused in storehouses while people starved due to the bureaucracy.

[@alexbarron5184]

“Communism will work this time.” - someone who has never experienced communism

[@vladislavbg9307]

Have you experienced communism?

[@Mislavestina]

Check out Yugoslavian communism, millions didnt die because our leader wasnt a narcicist who refused foreign aid, he worked with the west and the soviet block, the leader is the problem, not the system. Incompetent people will fail in any system. My father lived in that system and he tells me that nothing is better now in a democracy, its actually worse cause of all the corruption, in the communist system corrupt people would be punished severly, the only difference was you couldnt voice your opinion against the leader or the party, but they lived modest lives, had food and had everything, the country was producing everything it needed, its industry was strong, nobody starved. When the leader of Yugoslavia died everything fell apart because he kept all the nations of the federation in check and punished extreme nationalism, the motto of the people was Brotherhood and Unity, when he died the brotherhood died and the unity was shattered and war started which takes its toll even today on my country, our industry is non existant, the leader is the key.

[@harrisonthomas5723]

I am still living in communism

[@kpisti680]

Here in Hungary, many people want back, and much more things was better than in thisa oligarhic capitalism. I talked with many people who lived in that time and want it back. So that was you said that's a thing what says that people who live in a country that never was socialist

[@lepathewarrior4445]

@@kpisti680 those are the party higher ups and unproductive people

[@bobbiemanueldelapena4997]

"But that wasn't real communism..."

[@walterdayrit675]

Real communism does not and will not exist.

[@Sam-hy2rc]

The only form of real communism results in mass death for an ideology that is merely wishful thinking

[@edison7300037]

a political system that excludes human nature as a premise would never work....

[@walterdayrit675]

I have read Karl Marx's "Das Kapital". Quite an enjoyable read I must say. It's a wonderfully well written by about communism and how to attain it. Of course, I have to admit, I do tend to like reading unrealistic fiction and fantasy literature!!

[@walterdayrit675]

@@edison7300037 True. One distinct thing about human nature is that not everyone is equal because of the fact is that everyone is different from each other. Communism is therefore unattainable because of this simple fact.

[@floopydoopy4345]

Chinese People: kills sparrows Sparrows: *no u*

[@duchi882]

When you realize The Great Leap Forward is basically real life Farmville

[@AaronSiegel001]

Wow, you are everywhere on the video I wathed.

[@curtishammer748]

I like how the first 7 seconds of this video says everything we need to know about the Great Leap Forward without saying a word.

[@mosesmarlboro5401]

"BUt tHat WAsNt REEEaAl ComMunISm!"

[@comradeofthebalance3147]

MosesMarlboro Because it isn’t

[@irrelevant1242]

Comrade of the Balance “real” communism is impossible, stuff like this is proof.

[@comradeofthebalance3147]

Irrelevant12 ??? Obviously, it was a utopian ideology at its end.

[@coolthief8375]

Comrade of the Balance It wasn’t even an ideology. Marx didn’t even try to push for communism , he just wrote the most successful book about a dystopian world. For some reason people took it way too far.

[@comradeofthebalance3147]

Coolthief He did not write a dystopian world lol? It was an ideology. He had been involved in the English union related stuff. I hope you are not confusing with the socialist writer pen name George Orwell

[@lionljb]

Someone: "you know how many were killed by Mao's actions?" wumao: "but Germany..." (one doesn't excuse the other)

[@1eyeddevil929]

They always like to do that. Always acting as saints. Say one thing about Mao and they bring up someone else like dude, you aren't saints either

[@CannibaLouiST]

People keep saying China has a capitalist economy, or that China is the most capitalist country in the entire world. An Apple's Mac running a Windows emulator is not a "Microsoft operating system".

[@markgilrosales6366]

Except that china is running an entirely capitalistic system on their economy.

[@danshakuimo]

@@markgilrosales6366 Its not an entirely capitalistic system in the sense the government still has strong oversight over what happens im pretty sure. But I would say Chinese culture is pretty capitalistic compared to Americans when regarding things like weath and one-upping others.

[@UCSPanther20]

I would say that the post-Mao, pre-Xi era of China was effectively their version of the "Khrushchev Thaw", when the state permitted some freedoms, both in free enterprise and some right to dissent. Xi Jinping has worked to put an end to that thaw, where he has very aggressively clamped down on dissent and is working towards a policy of nationalizing private enterprise once again. Xi Jinping does remind me of Leonid Brezhnev, as they share quite a few parallels. Like Brezhnev in the USSR, Xi has clamped down on dissent, made China much more overtly aggressive on the world stage and is attempting rekindle the Mao-era communist nationalism.

[@jonasfelisilda5777]

China is state capitalist country.

[@хле6-ц8б]

China is capitalism at its most dangerous and accelarated form. Saying otherwise is just plain delusion.

[@tsiolkovskyluo3372]

I am a Chinese.My grandfather‘s younger sister died at that time under twenty because of famine.My grandfather join the army and survival.The people haven‘t got enough food to eat so they even eat bark and grass.What a horrible era！

[@hektorforever]

"B-b-but that wasn't real communism"

[@argus4650]

😂👏😔🤣🤥🤥

[@peanutbuttersandwich5015]

They didn’t do it right, we will. Let’s call it democratic socialism

[@zalmoxis2111]

@@peanutbuttersandwich5015 What's another 100 million deaths to achieve the communist utopia?

[@hughquigley5337]

General Sleepy thank you! Democratic socialism is nothing like communism FFS

[@cwg9238]

@@hughquigley5337 if the end result is the same it doesnt matter what you called it on the way there.

[@alexsacco776]

I love how college kids think mao was a good guy

[@justnoob8141]

They just love to not having home and work without getting paid

[@ddig0]

I wonder why those American college kids won’t move to Cuba, China, 5th World communist countries in South America...yeah, socialism for all of you peasants, good ol capitalism and freedom of speech for me.

[@JN1-506]

Going to class with those "enlightened" people was mentally draining

[@benderrodriguez8331]

Lego Indiana Jones Large welfare states in European countries has always been an apples to Diesel engine comparison. I mean, these individual countries are absolutely tiny, their populations are dwarfed by the US. Not to mention the fact that many of their economies rely on support from the larger powers like the more powerful EU states and the United States. Even the larger EU states rely on US support through NATO. Welfare states in larger world powers almost never work, simply because they are the primary provider of aid. The exact same conundrum happened in Ancient Rome, and by the time they realized it was a problem, most of their wealth was already depleted.

[@fatguy6153]

Communists don't realize they would be the ones killed along with the 1%, anyone in the middle class and up would be shot.

[@Rodrigo-ui2mv]

Why was there such a long pause at the beginning? Y'all had me fucked up thinking I went deaf or sum 😫

[@ghofranelaouar1164]

A happy working class does not exist..

[@dobridjordje]

​@@ghofranelaouar1164It does, in Vietnam and Yugoslavia.

[@lordfoogthe2st68]

Can’t wait to talk about this with my children once I’m living in Greenland during the collapse of society worldwide

[@JoeRosarioBZ]

What makes you think you'll be among those who survive?

[@matchimeow2859]

I might move to Greenland if the Wuhan Virus goes global (as in 60% of the world countries have infected)

[@Kajiukiller]

@@matchimeow2859 just don't eat bat soup

[@juntingiee2602]

Corona virus cough cough your dead now cough cough

[@Kajiukiller]

@Dario its easy to prevent dont eat the bat soup bats carry diseases

[@DanielMartinez-ne6cx]

My 7th grade history teacher showed the class this video .

[@apalahartisebuahnama7684]

2:07 Mao, you just literally refused an offered made by veteran of the famine

[@aheccinlemon6879]

That’s Mao for ya

[@varkin2742]

The beauty of communism

[@mahirrahman7]

Even Sun Yat Sen was critical of Mao Tse Tung's land reform any policy that he had regarding the rural countryside. Initially from 1949-1958, China was going on a path that was great for self-sufficiency but then the Great Leap Forward destroyed the countryside and the urban cities. Mao could have policies similar to what Ziaur Rahman did in 1978-1980 in Bangladesh.

[@chiensyang]

Impossible for Sun to criticize Mao since Sun died in 1925

[@miliba]

Spoiler: The Great Leap Forward was actually a great leap backward

[@enzovernille3800]

You're completely right!

[@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122]

that's communism for you.

[@Thebossstage1]

1 step forward 2 great leaps back

[@jamesricker3997]

It was said to have set China back 30 years

[@Deknis]

And they’ll say that wasn’t real communism.

[@kevingruenofficial]

After 18 years of public school and 4 years of college education, I finally learned about the largest mass death in history at age 27 because of the internet.

[@TheStapleGunKid]

Mao after reading about the millions upon millions who died under Stalin's policies: "What a lightweight. I could totally top that!"

[@VarietyGamerChannel]

300+ million also born under mao's policies.

[@TheStapleGunKid]

@@VarietyGamerChannel I'm pretty sure the Chinese were perfectly capable of making babies without Mao in charge.

[@irrelevant1242]

VarietyGamer so I can go out and murder some people because I know that the world is expecting population growth???

[@chrishayes5755]

@@VarietyGamerChannel facepalm. make better arguments bro.

[@goodnight8169]

@@VarietyGamerChannel maybe because chinese are the horniest.

[@frogglen6350]

I bet if Mao was the starving one, he would have accepted that foreign aid

[@aawishkhan]

Mao was wise enough for not accepting any aid. That's how developed nations lure poor countries into debt trap.

[@samuelnakai1804]

@@aawishkhan starving people contribute nothing to an economy. The deaths stunted their growth far more than any foreign aide would have.

[@frogglen6350]

@@aawishkhan Wise is letting 40 million of your people starve and causing a pointless war????

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

Kim right now is doing the same thing his people & solders are starving (fleeing solder had parasites in his stomach) and he refused food aid from south korea (because it wasn't enough he said)

[@BIGBLOCK5022006]

@@Eduardo_Espinoza Probably wasn't enough for him and the elite in Pyongyang to stuff their faces while the regular people starve.

[@gusmc2220]

socialists today: "but that wasn't REAL socialism!" me: "there's a Scotsman you should learn about..."

[@Inoffensive_name]

So you think the behaviors of the Chinese Communist Party shares values with modern socialism?

[@Will-sq3ip]

What Scotsman?

[@Inoffensive_name]

@Azamat Mur No, it is not real socialism. Socialism is an idea based in the love for life and the happiness of the common man. The idea that unity of thought and action can create utopia for all, not half of us. If you're in favor of these types of "necessary sacrifices", you're a totalitarian enemy of the people. And you are my enemy. Alright, to everyone triggered in the comments: I am arguing the fundamentals of early socialist thought, I'm not advocating socialism just because I'm talking about it. Jesus. McCarthy is dead, dude.

[@bananafreddy6547]

@@Inoffensive_name idk, that sounds pretty similar to what Lenin and Mao wanted. It just never turned out that way. Listen bud history's got you outmatched on this one. Socialism has almost always led to Communism, which almost always leads to death. No need to go all "you are my enemy" here, we're all civilized. The moment you do start doing that you're no better off than Stalin. And no that's not a compliment.

[@SkyguyFilmsZooruvfilms]

fenrar36 sounds a lot like capitalism, tell me, what’s this “socialist” country you’re from?

[@Aerolandaircraft]

Mao zedong is so evil!

[@manicdgr]

Nah, just not the brightest person. He also sucked at economics

[@mutt5701]

Odysseus Takavakas nah he’s evil not even an idiot would go through with all of this

[@manicdgr]

@@mutt5701 Evil is really heavy and even though it exists, it's rare. Mao was just... not the first one to admit his plans were stupid

[@mutt5701]

Odysseus Takavakas eh sure but being responsible for 50 millions deaths is pretty evil i would say

[@manicdgr]

@@mutt5701 Not evil because his plan wasn't to kill them. His plan was to make everyone happier basically, but that failed. Lots of others of his plans failed to which makes him dumb, not evil

[@AlenLi-fx3wv]

In China, people still regard him as a god. Human beings need to be wary of centralized government at all times

[@muhammedozbek7492]

chinese people is brainwashed

[@七十二变]

没有办法啊这里不可以讲真话的不听话就被抓起来

[@imcintyre01]

This is probably what north Korea is like

[@thunderbird1921]

From what I've read, you're mostly correct. Rumor is some in the rural countryside of NK are so desperate for food they eat boiled tree bark.

[@hackman669]

This is also China's future if Xi is not stopped!!!

[@JustTheTip556]

@@hackman669 this is also America's future if the socialists (democrats) had their way. Bernie, AOC, Omar and the list goes on. I think all Democrats said they want universal healthcare, heavier gun restrictions, open borders and so on. And just recently video was released of Bernie campaign employees talking of putting Republicans in "re education camps" and "gulags". No joke.

[@The1RedRooster]

Worse. Remember that Economic Sanctions by the US mean A FUCKING LOT of hurt for a country. Banking 101

[@jaysonchilds7325]

Sad... but true

[@synovialtrout04]

Just when you thought Hitler couldn't get more evil This guy takes #1

[@Paul-ou1rx]

"People standing in line for food is a good thing"- Mao (I think)

[@racciacrack7579]

Paul D No, that would be Bernie Sanders.

[@dilshanization]

With capitalism you get lines of people waiting for food, with communism you sometimes get food.

[@scooter_4070]

Chonghan L he’s joking

[@racciacrack7579]

@Trinidad and Tobagoball could you elaborate?

[@CGR89]

College student who has read communist manifesto once: “ACKSHUALLY this isn’t REAL communism”

[@amalkallarackal9293]

@Lego Indiana Jones socialism is the first step towards communism

[@amalkallarackal9293]

@Lego Indiana Jones educate yourself first, "college student mentioned in the actual comment"....😂😂 I just stated an actual phrase from Marx's theory... Socialism is the first step towards communism... Whether or not you want to accept the fact is entirely upto you.

[@ChickenRieder]

@@amalkallarackal9293 It's so nice when people that are against another person ideology quote them to make a point. Also, the other guy wasn't talking about socialism, the quote has nothing to do.

[@amalkallarackal9293]

@@ChickenRieder actually yes.... The end goal of "democratic socialism" is mentioned as socialism itself.... And asking someone not to quote a person because they're against that person sounds pretty fascist....

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@Rick O'Shay Maybe the real communism is the friends we made along the way.

[@cruzaider5339]

Going to war with emus but losing 1000 bullets Going to war with sparrows and losing your entire population

[@rentondezaberce5350]

Mao Zedong is like the real-life version of Thanos.

[@MontyQueues]

Renton Berce lol

[@southafricanizationofsociety20]

Renton Berce Oh snap!

[@hijack69]

@@southafricanizationofsociety20 I see what you did there

[@RS-pe5hp]

No, Mao Zedong was the biggest murder in history, and worst is that succesors of this evil group, the CCP is still in power. They did not changed, their methods did but they should not ever be trusted !

[@Кенжетайұлы]

Cut the crap , CCP isn't evil majority of the Chinese were favour of CCP because of them China is what today , just look at the traitors like Taiwan what they have achieved by sxxcking USA coke ?

[@annashoemaker1705]

one of maos genreals: sir the peseants are rioting! Mao: Uhg i handle it myself The one guy who showed up late to the protest: Hey where is everyone?

[@zhongxina3162]

Comrades move along... nothing to see here

[@AtlanteanTrapStar]

So pretty much Chinese Holodomor

[@mrbisshie]

Pretty much, minus the racism. Stalin wasn't a huge fan of Ukrainians. I dunno if Mao was racist against any ethnicities.

[@starman7645]

@@mrbisshie I don't know of what racism you speak of since jew isn't a race

[@alanparker9608]

China: dying from coronavirus Simple history: let’s revisit history

[@user-tr1gc6yi2h]

Copied bruh

[@jtl1797]

Alan Parker Copy

[@TheSinkingTitanic2]

stolen comment, you steal more than chinese toy companies.

[@user-tr1gc6yi2h]

@@TheSinkingTitanic2 😂😂😂

[@ynog0978]

Stolen comment gang

[@windiamigo5312]

For watching this video: *-666 social credit*

[@crispy9175]

I know Chinese people who still think he's a hero (or are too afraid to say openly near a cell phone). Edit; cell phone not call phone

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

Very good brainwashing, especially when the modern CCP doesn't even practice his ideology. Mao would likely execute all of them for being revisionaries or capitalist traitorts if he could. This kind of double think is required. If the CCP recognizes he was just a power hungary murderous lunatic, his ideology resulting in the immense deaths of their own countrymen during peacetime, and they have given up on marxism/socialism (economically) they would loose their legitimacy immediately.

[@basedkaiser5352]

@@Nathan-jh1ho Not necessarily, Kruschev disavowed Stalin as soon as he took power, so it might work for China too.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

@@basedkaiser5352 Not really the same situation. Kruschev was still a communist, while the modern CCP, not so much. Also, Mao was their "founding father" if used in the context of the USSR it would be like denouncing Lenin.

[@aoeu256]

@@basedkaiser5352 Deng Xiaoping disavowed Mao blaming him for the famines but he put the deaths at 18.5 million not the 70 million that includes unborn children.

[@nasonaso8356]

@@Nathan-jh1ho China has not abandoned Marxism

[@Futhbol]

Man’s gonna get. -99999999999999999999999 social credit