The Arrogance of the Materialistic (and Other) Views

[@SaxonShore]

"The truth is simple, if it was complicated everyone would understand it." Walt Whitman

[@kristinanderson1983]

Huh…I think you just helped me arrive at a breakthrough. I’ve been doing shadow work and unconsciously clinging to trauma by ruminating over what happened and specifically *why* it happened….assuming that I could think my way through the experience and resolve what happened. As if the trauma ans the associated pain could be solved like a puzzle. You’ve helped to the realize that ego will always attempt to think my way out of a problem because that is its primary function. Which is certainly a helpful function, but not always and certainly not for everything. A better approach is to allow the feeling, and to reexperience trauma without judgement or attachment, ie attempting to solve with thoughts, and to just let it be. Thank you! 🙏🏽

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@kristinanderson1983 wonderful

[@Pamela_Sinai]

Yes -- threading that delicate needle between bypassing trauma and identifying with it too much. I couldn't just "disidentify" from my trauma, or pretend it wasn't there -- I needed a lot of work for my system to even feel safe enough to start first allowing (at all) and then more and more fully surrendering to the (deeply uncomfortable) melting of what Angelo calls the Frozen Ball of Emotional Soup and I (rather uncharitably) call the Giant Iceberg of Sewage. As I get more adept at allowing it, it gets more intense. Sometimes I can surrender fully, and it's not so bad. Other times, thoughts swarm and attack. I keep having to remind myself that thoughts are just noise. But it feels like an accelerating process, and there's nothing to do but be with it until... Well, there's no "until." There's only Now. I keep reminding myself of that, too...

[@kristinanderson1983]

@ 🙏🏽 ❤️

[@synsynsy]

Many thanks Angelo. This one brought a smile to my face.

[@buddhasdojo9368]

I don't know if this is a result of dissolving mental constructs or just an unfolding of the seeming conditionings, but here it seems that I became dumber and dumber. 😳😂 Something arrived in a territory that knows nothing anymore. So much is dissolving continuously that nothing makes sense anymore. Not knowing has a strange beauty and peace. The urge to figure it out or manage fades away slowly. I'm not so sure if this is a result of exhaustion or surrender but it's no choice or control over it. Thank you, much love. 🙏♥️

[@indef93]

Yes! Looking back, the dissolving was very scary when it started slowly creeping up. But when it all drops, it's just too obvious that you can't fight this. It really can have the flavor of "dumbness" sometimes, maybe moreso in the beginning and for especially "heady" identity srructures (trauma seems directly related to the degree of disembodiment that gets us in our head). Even through some hardcore unbinding, work and university seem to be going more smoothly than ever over here. A few moments of doubt came up briefly and I had gotten feedback about being "plump" and a bit direct at times and that's OK. It became very obvious that everyone has their own relative perceptions that reflect on their identity. It feels like a true disentangling and slowly but surely there is further growth, development and learning, but this time in a more natural and unforced way. I want to say that awakening has been much more like a very non-linear system restart than anything else I could say to describe it. For every uncomfortable moment of surrender, it seems, new spontaneous pathways emerge with time and openness. Things start to shift before you even have time to worry about staying "dumb" or anything else. 🎉🎉🎉

[@buddhasdojo9368]

@indef93 I don't know if it makes sense but even describing it's so difficult... Reading your comment and generally watching videos relating to this topic everything seems so heady and mental.. It seems here that everything moved somehow in the field. It's more formless and not concrete. Day by day something vanishes or looses up. It's a silence, an open field of neutrality that percolates every aspect. I don't have better words to express.. Thank you for your kind comment, have a beautiful blessed Christmas, much love and gratitude. 🙏❤️💝

[@mikeyfinn2]

​@@buddhasdojo9368 a kind of slippery smoothness to non-resistance, no?

[@silentsabbath]

I appreciate your agenda-less & focused pointing to this moment SO MUCH, because the rest of it (even if it's fascinating as fuck!) we can get ANYWHERE ELSE. and again, so thankful for all that you offer freely. everyone should be have access to this, and I admire your devotion to it/us/liberation for all.

[@Natalie-cb5by]

You are amazing Angelo, Thank you for the tireless work you do. I appreciate you immensely ❤

[@ktmkall9812]

You keep doing authentic you Angelo. You have and will continue to share golden insites to help us all in our journey to be free💚

[@comfortchronicles6237]

Can get the neuro info lots of places but excellent pointing is rare and far more valuable (for me). One thing I’m finding super interesting is the potential for physical healing that awakening brings. Not for all people I guess and of course only certain health issues. But the massive reduction in chronic stress and sadness has a huge benefit in terms of lifestyle diseases etc. I’d love to hear you interview an awake person who has explored that. Or to hear you talk about it yourself. Thanks Angelo, for all your work.

[@stillpoint44]

I love it when you are just so human and real. Although I enjoy your regular teachings, you are often so devoid of personallity. I mean, I get it - the true self has no preferences. But a little "hrumanness" is refreshing on occasion. However you choose to show up at any given moment, I am grateful for it.namaste.

[@Roger-nk5ug]

Even the fundamental concept of "cause & effect" is a very deeply held belief within science.

[@Craig_Walker_]

Love it, just came across you. Another physician talking about the mechanics of awakening. Looking forward to going through your stuff.

[@ganazby]

The crux of the biscuit! Thank you, Angelo. 🙏

[@777Morganna]

😂So ‘liberated’ people do swear ❤Love it. Amazing realisation when we do wake up, such a f*ing relief, I laughed and cried and danced around like a loonie. Still ‘chill’ five weeks on 😎 Wish this for everyone suffering ❤May all Beings be happy XX

[@Naaxbeats]

Love it. It’s such subtle work this stuff and I’m for sure guilty of this in some way. Thanks for the reminder

[@Roger-nk5ug]

Thank you, Angelo. Everything you say resonates deeply with me. Science is like having an amazing tool box, which can do so many things for humanity. It's not where awakening abides, though.

[@martinspiering5817]

Most spiritual seekers start out as materialists, then become panpsychists, then idealists, and then nondualists, until they finally don't give a hoot about "isms." "Neither from itself nor from another, nor from both, nor without a cause, does anything whatever, anywhere arise." - Nagarjuna

[@martinspiering5817]

"Random ideas are relatively innocuous, but ideologies, beliefs, opinions, and points of view . . . are the shadows which obscure the light of truth." - Yasutani Roshi (in: The Three Pillars of Zen)

[@AlastairGames]

Even when it doesn't seem like thinking is happening, I can feel a "mental energy" like there's a clump of dense thought energy and yet there's also a feeling of spaciousness there

[@kas8131]

Pre-awakening here, just want to see how much I don’t get it

[@alfreddifeo9642]

Your words are a gift from and to the universe. Happy holiday to All that Is and is not.☮❤🙏🕉♾ and I am also here for This. Thank You for guiding and pointing waking all. To discover our true nature. May we all melt as it now

[@lindadeakin]

Love it. Yep I took this materialistic view even convinced myself with the "belief" for a little while that the first shift was the result of some brain misfiring..yeah even when it was so very clear to me.. because I had no framework for this at the time. A huge amount of doubt behind this too.

[@Lisa.Martin_AL]

Geeze so sorry you have to continually explain this to folks. Regulars are clearly aware of all this. Your compassion to assist those that are stuck in their views is unending! Muck love💜

[@DJ_Duck_Sick]

muck love baby

[@EternalBeingOfficial]

Well said

[@chrisdelaplante5515]

There is so much people awake now on internet ! I

[@shadoZer]

Nice of you to try to engage them... Reading your comments, it looks like you've helped a lot of people. I'll probably be reporting back after I try a week or two of TRE. Thanks again.

[@injoyinmyself2018]

Why don't I want to question my own view? Has the Non Dual/ Enlightenment community become rigid, arrogant in its views? Do I identify with the content on a youtube video the same way I identify with my thoughts?

[@terryrunyan]

I love all the video playlist you point out for different types of fixations. Do you happen to have a playlist or particular videos that deal with physical pain? I’m in the middle of it at this point with lower back pain that is now moving into stomach/intestinal pain. I sit with it in meditation practice and have it most all day to experience moment by moment. I found myself in a place of full acceptance at times, then the fear pops up, and I feel like something needs to change. I have consulted with Doctors and had an MRI. Pain meds are marginally helpful but still pain. I know on a deep level that this is the path but want to make sure I’m not deluding myself. Anyway, anything you can suggest would be greatly appreciated.

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

"It's just a bunch of thoughts" HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! The man knows the truth!

[@Pamela_Sinai]

I was an angry, self-righteous atheist materialist for years, so I understand that mindset quite well. I remember feeling like "woo nonsense" would be the destruction of us all. (TBH, I still have opinions about certain things being genuinely woo nonsense. But my mind is less closed and judgmental than before.) And I don't happen to think most humans right now could begin to handle the groundlessness of "too much reality." (But hey, what do I know? Maybe everyone's totally ripe and just pretending.) I well remember my skepticism early on when Angelo or other teachers would warn us about too much thinking, and I'd be like, "Ummm, I've heard that before... It's never a great sign when someone instructs me to turn off my critical thinking skills!" Point being, it's so funny now to have discussions with people still completely embedded in the "materialism is the only reality" mindset, knowing how much resistance I had to overcome to even start taking an alternative halfway seriously. It kind of has to be something you want, even when you don't really know what exactly it is that you want. And maybe you have to be struck by certain experiences before your mind can be opened that critical crack toward transcending the mind. But yeah, no one's saying there aren't any neurons. It's just that the neurons wouldn't have much to do if they didn't have a "field of consciousness" to emerge from and interface with -- or however it works. (My materialist friends believe I need a falsifiable theory of how it works, or they dismiss it out of hand. Yeah, it doesn't really work like that... When you ask them what is beyond all paradigms, the look at you like you asked how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. Oh well.)

[@1schwererziehbar1]

David Godman tells the story about one of his teachers Nisargadatta Maharaj, a cigarette salesman who enjoyed talking to people about their world views, intensely and to the point where they realized it was just thoughts and not reality. And from there they would have the chance to go into direct experience if they chose it.

[@thehappyfellow5500]

Well... Didn't expect Angelo to drop the F bomb in this one but damn it felt nuclear 😂

[@CosmicJoeK]

spot on 👍

[@TerryFarrah]

Angelo’s impatience here is so cute

[@filipsigur6179]

Thnx for continuously putting us in Our place xD

[@BishopMechanical]

Once you really see it, it’s like blue car syndrome, all you see are blue cars

[@marlinconner3118]

💜💜💜

[@darbydelane4588]

Nice.

[@n-xsta]

I don’t think I would have had the courage to surrender if not for your content ❤ Actually I thought I was surrendering before your content 🙃😂🙏🏽

[@JoeDellatorre-e9z]

🙂🙏💚

[@dvdmon]

It sounds like Fear-bear needs a companion - Thought-bear.

[@SimplyAlwaysAwake]

@@dvdmon 💀

[@knish4176]

Hi Angelo, could you please make a video on nihilism. I found this to be another obstacle in the journey of self-enquiry. I always suffered milancholy but this same tendency tends to turn spiritual enquiry into nihilism at times. Then I lose motivation for sometime to do the self-enquiry.

[@clairedot657]

So I’m the second commenter mentioned in this video! 🙂 I get it. When I’m looking at the visual field I get yellow and purple hues coming in and my mind then offers up some rods and cones explanation, so that is the jump back into the mind. I also get a dissolving of my visual field, and my mind jumps back to ‘is this what is supposed to be happening or are my neurons just getting tired and that’s why it’s dissolving. It’s a questioning which is obviously a jump back into the mind. I don’t think I’ve heard of people saying the visual field dissolves, so I guess I’m not trusting my experience fully or trusting if I’m getting it right. So should I just let go into it?

[@nikeshgupta5040]

@SimplyAlwaysAwake I have a question about mind identification. If I do a science experiment which shows me the same result as predicted by others and therefore I am convinced that the story that science tells me about reality is true , through its many levels from QFT to chemistry to biology etc. are you saying that these are all a bunch of thoughts (which essentially they are) and they should be dismissed as a story? My problem with this is that because the story stacks up and also predicts what will happen in my direct experience if I do the experiment correctly, then doesn't this mean that science has told me a story which has given direct evidence in my own experience of its veracity? I think what you are saying is 'all this is a bunch of beliefs', but I can't seem to get past this series of thoughts.😟.

[@nikeshgupta5040]

In answer to my own comment😄. Mind cannot understand anything that Angelo is talking about. I should go back to the playlists and start again!

[@EnlightenedSchmuck]

Sorry Angelo, but nonduality is 100% a conceptual point of view. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The problem with the vast majority of nonduality teachers is that they keep muddying the waters and create unnecessary confusion by constantly (directly or indirectly) equating nonduality with absolute truth / the true nature of reality. Nonduality is a concept just as duality is a concept (=> something that can be described); absolute truth on the other hand is nonconceptual and therefore *cannot be put into words.* _This_ is the disclaimer that you should give at the start of each video. (Go look up the video "Duality & Nonduality: Two Sides Of The Same Coin" by Yin Yang Unity for an in depth breakdown of the whole topic. It explains and debunks the nonduality = absolute truth fallacy in great detail.)

[@debbiemiller163]

If you watch Angelo regularly you would know he talks frequently about the indescribable nature of reality whilst also acknowledging that words are all he has to point to this. So maybe don’t make statements about what he ‘constantly’ says as if you watched him regularly you would know that is a factually completely incorrect assumption you are making. Why do you feel the need to correct him without having the full picture? What do you believe you get out of that? Lots of love to you, hope you find what you’re looking for ❤

[@EnlightenedSchmuck]

@debbiemiller163 I am a regular watcher of Angelo's videos, which is exactly why I wrote this comment. Yes, Angelo regularly points out that no words can really describe the true nature of reality since language by its very nature is conceptual and can only be used to communicate limited viewpoints. And then he immediately contradicts that by saying that his nondual pointers are "not a conceptual claim" (0:40) and "not a viewpoint" (2:05). Which obviously begs the question: How can any verbal pointer _not_ be a conceptual viewpoint? This is a very clear and obvious self-contradiction, and it quite frankly baffles me that there are so many (seemingly intelligent) people among his viewers who don't immediately recognize it as such. And rest assured that I am not exclusively picking on Angelo here. Like I said, the vast majority of nonduality teachers are engaging in this permanent self-contradictory back-and-forth where one minute they say that the essence of Being cannot be labeled and described, and then the next minute they claim that nonduality is pure Being, not a concept, not a philosophy, absolute reality itself. Well, which one is it? And again: Watch the video I mentioned/posted above. It will clear up the whole issue far better than any comment I could possibly write here. Much love to you too, sweetheart. 😘

[@imranganiy2836]

I sense annoyance and mild frustration. I see no problem with this. Ideas about emotional perfectionism continue to pollute the culture, but it is just another view to question.

[@Holphana]

Maybe they are confused by the duality of non-duality. That identity is part of the person and not the self.

[@BADRM-d6j]

Someone already no one is not claiming about being materialistic or unmaterialistic like what does that even mean every body seeks certain things.

[@jamesstaggs4160]

The lady freaking out about her experience reminds me of a lot of 5MEO DMT trip reports I've read. It's not the normal DMT where you meet beings and see ever shifting patterns, 5MEO is different. People report seeing nothing, not even an endless void of white or inky blackness. It was literally nothing. They totally forgot they were ever human or that they were on a planet called earth. They said they were everything and nothing at the same time. Speaking of time they don't experience time. They felt like it'd always been exactly how it was and will always be that way as well. To me that's much wilder than machine elves. I think they found "base" reality. If everything is one and separation is an illusion then you would be everything but since you're singular you'd be nothing because to be something there must be an "other". A thing is a thing because it's not these other things. There would be no time either. To perceive time you must be able to see other things which are moving in different directions and exist in different places than you. Time is basically movement, but since you're everything (even space) and nothing you have no object with which you can compare with yourself or another object. Don't know about anyone else but that sounds terrifying. Maybe I'm projecting a human emotion onto the ultimate reality but I have to wonder if that wasn't the catalyst to create illusions and then forget you made them. Maybe I/we are fooling ourselves as to not have to face the reality that we are alone in a way that may be impossible for a human to fathom. Again, maybe I'm projecting my own feelings into the equation. It may be the case that the "Ultimate" can't even feel fear. I suppose I already know the answers to my questions and I'm hiding them from myself to make eternity interesting

[@FetterMuncher666]

That's incredibly terrifying. I'll pass on the 5Meo thank you kindly.

[@mobiustrip1400]

Evolutionists like Dawkins! So educated, eloquent, erudite! It's quite a paradox, because although evolution is undoubtedly true, it's not very enlightening at all! It's missing so much in the self, the psyche!

[@mordie31]

Physician or physicist? Are you a doctor because if so that’s so unexpected. Much love from Poland

[@debbiemiller163]

He is an anaesthesiologist so a medical doctor who puts people to sleep 😂love the irony of that ❤

[@NickOng78]

before realization we don't know what a realization is. until it happens everything is a concept/opinion 😂

[@jeffatkins1691]

Why are you avoiding talking about the pink bunny's that live in the clouds? You know they exist😂

[@Craig_Walker_]

Love it, just came across you. Another physician talking about the mechanics of awakening. Looking forward to going through your stuff.

[@jamesthomas1244]

He has a book that pretty much lays it all out.

[@Jade33]

This hits me hard. When I finally saw how mind identified I was, I could see the extensive suffering I was hiding myself from. That was devastating. I just wanted to go back to sleep. It was a rude awakening to the truth. 😂

[@777Morganna]

😂So ‘liberated’ people do swear ❤Love it. Amazing realisation when we do wake up, such a f*ing relief, I laughed and cried and danced around like a loonie. Still ‘chill’ five weeks on 😎 Wish this for everyone suffering ❤May all Beings be happy XX