BRUTALLY HONEST | Dubai to London aboard BRITISH AIRWAYS' old, dusty Boeing 777-200ER!

[@shihlin1]

OMG, at 10:52 you couldn't even tell the plane touched down. There was literally no impact whatsoever. That has to be the smoothest touchdown ever ! And notice the plane just tip toes after landing without seemingly turning on any reverse thrusters. AMAZING !

[@Andonarzoian]

Butter landing

[@marcus747400]

I agree I always found BA consistent. Good crew and the only airline that can make a decent cup of tea

[@l3v1ckUK]

A lot of BA's 777-200's are old and tired. I hope they get the refresh they need, because whenever I've flown long haul with them, the food and crew have been great. It's only the hard product that lets them down.

[@tsnovak20]

They won’t, they are waiting for 777 to retire and they’ll be probably replaced with b787 or a350

[@tjr_aviation]

Half of them are getting re fitted with new beautiful club suites the other half are getting scrapped

[@rugbydazz2264]

@@tjr_aviation Is that a bad thing? I personally prefer the Airbus product it has a better safety record, and the A350 looks like a real nice aircraft.

[@aseem7w9]

@@rugbydazz2264 No, it's a great thing. I personally feel like it's a bit wrong to say an aircraft is unsafe because of it's record alone as the 777 has been unlucky over past decade crashing due to stupid pilot errors and being shot down, things that Airbus planes have crashed because of too. Before these unfortunate events the 777 had a flawless record so can you really call it an unsafe plane than something like 340 or 350??

[@kirilmihaylov1934]

@@aseem7w9 true

[@lmlmd2714]

"Updating" the cabin from 3-3-3 to 3-4-3. Poor form, BA. Poor form :(

[@johniii8147]

It's the standard configuration now since people choose based on low fare if you're stuck in economy. You get what you pay for or don't pay for.

[@jayd1426]

@@johniii8147 but still, it was definitely more comfortable with the 3-3-3 layout. I had a very comfortable time when I flew in one of the unrefurbished BA 777s in 2019.

[@ShaneBlake25]

Ita actually horrendous

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​@@ShaneBlake25yes I think the 777x will solve it, it's also a 747 replacement too.

[@CongletonMike]

Virtually Every airline has gone to 3-4-3

[@jayd1426]

Great video! Brings back memories of the 2000s when I flew the BA 772s quite often. The interiors may be old, but they are 10x more comfortable and spacious than many of its competitors that have installed 10 seats per row.

[@jfmezei]

The 777 was designed as 9 across fuselage to fill the gap between 767 and 747, a gap that was ripe for replacemennt with end of L1011, DC10 and MD11 (all of which we 9 across). It was only after the initial failure of 787 sales that Boeing accountants decided to make the 8 across 787 sold as 9 across and then certified 777 for 10 across with reduced seat pitch, making alrline accounts happy. So the "standard" for the 777 should remain 9 across because from 1995 till recent years, it was 9 across and the 10 across fad is relatively recent so most of the 777's life was 9 across. It is a shame that airline accountants are going out of their way to make flying as uncomfortable as possible to push people to either not fly or pay for premium classes.

[@MillionMilesMarc]

Great video ! I really like that this cabin still has the original 777's 3-3-3 configuration that was a standard when the plane was released and was after replaced by almost all airlines into the now classic 3-4-3 config. Keep up the great work !

[@GenkisTravels]

Great Brutally Honest review. I'm flying them in three weeks but on the -300ER

[@ericforsbergs2364]

I fly BA last month from London on the 787-10 to Chiago and it’s better.

[@abshivkumar2549]

The 777 300er are equipped with the new interior

[@GenkisTravels]

@LaTonya Jackson-Hays Only way to know is looking at the seat map (which isn't that helpful)

[@joesos]

@LaTonya Jackson-Hays put the date and flight number into seatguru

[@smeshsmesh9695]

@LaTonya Jackson-Hays look up the flight number

[@94vrcommodore]

Just subscribed to your channel. I love how you review airlines, service, food, etc on how it is. Also the other reviewers on your Simply aviation channel. Will be looking forward to more videos 😃

[@Travelstar98]

I took BA from Dubai to London in September 2021 when it was planned to be an A350-1000 but changed to a B777-300ER. The aircraft was completely full and I got an aisle seat in World Traveller Plus. It was a very horrible flight as the crew refrain me from recording videos especially when they're seen. I'll be flying BA's 777-200ER from Gatwick to Doha next week and I hope I got a window seat and the crew is fine with filming

[@bayareaaviation17]

Nice video! That old BA cabin really brings back memories of flying them in the early 2010s!

[@Michael.Chapman]

3:15 Make sure only to bring a power bank certified appropriately for aircraft use. Cheap power bank devices are liable to catch fire, making whoever brings one on-board an unwitting victim of potentially taking down a large commercial airliner. BTW, in the 1980s and 90s, perhaps beyond, we coped easily and happily without having USB or aircraft power outlets available (except up the back for shaving).

[@Hans-gb4mv]

6:06 nice to see my old neighborhood in the distance. I miss Dubai.

[@TheBlackfanify]

Great video and the rather vintage seats remind me of those on SQ's now-retired B777-200s and non-ER -300s! Like the BA B772 you flew on in this video, SQ's "classic" B777s also never had power outlets in economy!

[@devindrabalkaran3159]

Correction - Etihad only flies into Abu Dhabi, not Dubai. DXB-LHR was one of my regular routes when I worked in the UAE and I almost exclusively used BA. The 777 interiors were a bit dated but I usually had a very comfy ride mostly in PE or Club.

[@TheFlyingFrenchmanHD]

For a Dubai to London flight this cabin is alright, but the lack of power outlet and these old IFEs would be hard to accept on this day and age for a longer, 8 hour-ish flight IMO. But a 9 abreast seating configuration on a 777 is a HUGE thumbs up in economy. Would love to fly BA in long haul, seems like a great experience. Thanks for this video!

[@theancientsancients1769]

BA has new business and economy class and decided to change back to a high end airline and not a budget one under the new boss . It would take time to feel the changes .. but with soft products like catering it's starting already

[@francismcdonnell753]

I love BA’s seats in economy. They are so comfortable. The head rest is the best I’ve ever had. One can actually sleep without one head’s lolling around. I do hope they keep those seats.

[@karenstewart2216]

Flown BA many times to Dubai, always good service, however last time went with Gulf Air as alot cheaper, they were superb as long as you don't mind transferring in Bahrain.

[@hendricklamar]

You should fly on Finnair! They have a new economy class, premium economy and business class on their long-haul flights.

[@markmitchell2658]

Yes but only on 1 plane at moment and told to bring your own sandwiches!! Because ofvthe extra flight time to Asia

[@CosmicPanda855]

At last, a fair review of “good old BA!” David, you are BY FAR my favourite aviation blogger. Well done 👍

[@abdul-hadidadkhah1459]

Because he sugar-coated your national carrier which was otherwise rather below average? I see...

[@CosmicPanda855]

I see no evidence of his flight being “below average” as you put it. Quite the reverse. David didn’t sugar coat anything, he merely recounted how the experience was for him. Why do you feel the need to be so aggressive? Look inward…

[@daaaaaaaaan]

Flying a -200 to Vancouver in May, really hoping for an equipment change as I've seen some A350s on the same flight the past few weeks too, already dreading the 9,5 hours in this cabin

[@phillipmaguire4671]

Yet again David, thanks for the great review. It is a shame that BA are re-configuring their economy on the 777's to put 10 seats abreast. If they remained at the 9 abreast, they would remain super competitive against the likes of Emirates and others doing the route. 10 abreast makes it a very cramped and unpleasant experience.

[@lmlmd2714]

My thoughts exactly. Very few airlines flying 777s in 3-3-3 these days. It's a point of differentiation and a huge competitive advantage, especially with frequent flyers (the sort of passengers any airline really wants to hold on to) who know the seat layouts and look out for this.

[@fruitpunch5260]

MH used to do 2-5-2 in the 777

[@joshmitchell300]

You do realise Emirates 777s have been 10-abreast for much longer than BA's?

[@theancientsancients1769]

Actually those plans of 10 are scrapped under the new boss , the old boss Cruz who turned into budget airlines almost planned that . The new boss wants airline to return to its high end status

[@jameswhughes]

Emirates is exclusively A380 out of Heathrow (and Gatwick too in normal times) so I don't think BA has a chance here either way! There's no way I'd fly with them unless they were significantly cheaper than Emirates, though I'm only likely to go to Dubai in transit regardless.

[@rezaalan3991]

Great review. Despite all of the plane looks older, at least the seats looks comfortable.

[@AussieAvgeek98]

Brutually Honest next episode should be Air New Zealand... had to pay $20.00 NZD just to use the IFE on their 787-9, crazy.

[@Aviation_Explorer]

Yeah it’s really annoying, they do this on flights between Australia and New Zealand

[@EAGSAviationYT]

damn thats ridiculous...does air new zEAland offers free wi fi on 789?

[@phillipmaguire4671]

Yes, I too would like to see a review of Air New Zealand, Air Tahiti Nui and Air Calin, all operating in parts of Oceania.

[@spongebubatz]

I did not expect that from Air New Zealand, an airline I always expected to be more of a full service carrier. So far only once I would’ve had to pay for IFE, that was on an Eurowings long haul flight and even there only movies except movies for children were behind a paywall.

[@gparyani]

U.S. carriers also used to paywall their IFEs, but thankfully, they got rid of this practice

[@alexmnblyth]

i’ve been watching you since the days of VIE-LHR and the big red suitcase! so SO happy to see how far you’ve come :)

[@Bobrogers99]

A long flight in Economy can be trying, but it appears that, except for power outlets, this flight met your expectations. The seating was reasonably comfortable and the food service was perhaps better than I would have expected.

[@lmlmd2714]

I'd gladly trade a power outlet for a 3-3-3 economy configuration on a 777 any day of the week! You can bring your own power bank, but you can't bring your own seat.

[@Horizon301.]

I figure most of the B777-200’s have an updated cabin, it’s not too bad minus the lack of ambient lighting. The B747 however had it all including the latest IFE so I wonder why these aircraft couldn’t have been retrofit using the cabin fittings from the jumbos that were scrapped.

[@lukethompson5558]

I wonder the same thing, but the seats might need to be slightly narrower (777 cabin is about 6 inches narrower)

[@tghadi]

Love the review on this channel, the videos aren't too long, David minimise chatter and goes straight to the point 👍. Keep it up, David.

[@olliewatts9478]

I flew on G-YMMU back in 2012 from SAN to LHR, though it was only 3 years old then!!

[@darkvader7231]

9 seats but dont worry, soon you'll have 10 seats per row so you feel cozy and packed in like sardines, cant fkng wait!!

[@flightreviews9648]

We are going virgin Atlantic in may from sfo-Lhr we were going to go British airways but they are VERY exspenive but Our virgin flight is going to be on a 787-9

[@hhemi0]

The seat itself is just FANTASTIC. It’s hard to find this level of comfy seats in these days, and I’d rather prefer staying on these seats to get a better quality sleep

[@aoifekiernanl2]

I smiled when I saw this. I was scheduled to be on a BA 773 to HND in 2018. What did I see at the gate at LHR but G-YMMP! My heart sank a little as I knew exactly what lay ahead of me, having been down the back of G-BYGD & G-BNLP to HKG in 2011. However! It was cosy and a great flight.

[@os4908]

Smooth landing

[@elliotreed6118]

Brilliant video. My dad flew on that same aircraft earlier this year to Cape Town.

[@Gameflyer001]

Flew on two of her sister aircraft G-YMMA and G-YMMF between LHR and TLV 7 years ago. Solid aircraft, but I agree that the interior of the old cabins is a bit of a tired product. Can't wait to fly on a 773ER to see how it compares.

[@ehtransit1306]

I'm surprised their 2009 777s still have the old economy

[@hapipiajah5092]

"simply avition the best "simply avition the best "simply avition the best

[@johnsavage5815]

I travelled from Dubai to Perth on a 777, to call it tired is an understatement, the plane had usb ports but few of them worked.

[@volantee]

The good thing of old interiors is that they’re so comfortable. It’s sad to see BA refurbish these with newer seats.

[@Thanosbreak]

The ife is important

[@fruitpunch5260]

Isn’t the legroom only 31” on these old 777’s?

[@832JY]

Great Brutally Honest review. A lot of crumbs on the front section of economy class, and I noticed one of the crews grumbly threw what it looks like some unused blanket onto the seats 😂😂. Probably Monday blues…

[@nickdegroot2445]

You were talking about the cutlery made out of plastic. I believe they actually clean and re-use it but I am not 100% sure

[@nonenowherebye]

The 3-4-3 configuration on a 777 (and 3-3-3 on 787) should be illegal. It's absolutely terrible for anyone of a normal size to be crammed in there. Whenever I'm in those terible seats next to anything other than a kid or a petite woman, I wind up having to either sit at an angle, lean into the window cavity, or lean out into the aisle (and get hit by the carts and people walking by).

[@oofernoobynoob6866]

old but gold

[@Thanosbreak]

the screens are horrible

[@TheTravelDudes]

Bro this was a 7-hr flight and you were offered a meal, bev and snack, and a whole sandwich before landing. On my American PREMIUM flight from Chicago to Honolulu (9.5 hrs) all we got was a small snack box with chips and things like that

[@TopGear93100]

I wonder will g ymmu be refitted with the new club world and new club suite seats soon?

[@Malc180s]

7:41 - plastic is far greener than using cardboard and wood for everything. Where do you think cardboard comes from? You think it's recyclable? Have a read about it.

[@JoeDFWAviation]

Wow, no power??? Must be an old cabin, I was on a BA A380 in 2015, it had plugs and USB in economy.

[@kevinjames8752]

Do people actually still fly with BA ??

[@rajkumaranbazhagan6088]

@ David I am A bit disappointed by seeing the size of the IFE and the legroom

[@AlbertZhang-k9v]

Are these 777s still in service? Or have they all been refurbished by now

[@aayushsinha7938]

10:48, want to see the Concorde fly again one day!!

[@stracepipe]

Taking off is optional, landing is mandatory and BA flight crew are hugely respected within the industry. That's the most important thing as far as I am concerned, not how swish the interior of the plane is.

[@uxb2001]

we recently flew in economy from HON to ORD on a 10 across UA 777-200ER. tight vinylish seat very minimal padding but had all the port plus wi-fi work over the Pacific. UA needs to quit being cheap on meals.

[@FlyCruiseStay]

Flying on an older 777-200ER FROM Jo'burg to Heathrow May 6th so curious as to what to expect as it has been so long since we have flown on a 777-200ER (last time was on an AA ORD to LHR many moons ago. D.H.

[@up_to_a_million]

I can confirm that the 777-200s indeed ARE getting an economy change, I flew with ba on one in Jan 2021 and the economy cabin was much more modern (the IFE hardware was top notch), it was 3-4-3 though. Despite that, I did not find it uncomfortable and had a great flight.

[@heids2810]

Love your videos! Keep it up!

[@yourtravelswithbruce]

that meal looks VILE!! I cannot believe anyone can call that a salad LOL

[@mochammadariqatillah2000an]

This is a nice trip report. Every detail of flight service is spot on.

[@mickfarmer6248]

2009 isn't actually that old for a Boeing 777-236(ER). I got back from New York recently on G-YMMO which was built in 2001.

[@ShadowRaccoon]

Your meal service was certainly more generous than the one I got on my Chicago flight with BA a month later! (No bread roll and smaller version of chocolate bar). Hoepfuly BA will come through with their promised improvements...

[@Josueeeeeeeeeee3]

Imagine you get a heart of simply aviation

[@kookgiuliani1992]

Great video and well done Simply Aviation! I’m just wondering how people choose to fly such these airlines with poor cabins while they still have the chance to fly one of the gulf carriers with a young fleet age. No doubts the worst carrier among them has a better service than what BA does. I’ve flown so far on: BA, Lufthansa , AA, United, Delta, Gulf air, Oman air Qatar , Saudia, Emirates , Etihad and Air Asia.

[@Landie_Man]

I looked up the reg, 2009. Jesus. That’s not that old!

[@Jejie1029]

First Class Episode Travel Bahrain- Doha British airways first Class!

[@wajihuddin3322]

Time lapse of taxi, climb and descent would be highly appreciated?

[@ghivifahmi4252]

Plane might be old but atleast they still got that cushion seat in economy. Call me a boomer but every airline now uses those damn flat seats

[@mochammadariqatillah2000an]

Brutally honest content so far is the best one

[@muhammetubuz846]

All of your videos are very nice. I have never traveled by plane in my life, I wonder what it is like to travel by plane.

[@funland1453]

Nice video!! Love from canada

[@kleeblattchen38]

9:03 reduce plastic with paper cups for salad/dessert but include completely unnecessary plastic cutlery with some more plastic packaging in this snack box? 🤨

[@Vrangelrip]

awesome

[@Aviation_Explorer]

Can you do a brutally honest review of Qantas 787 between London and Perth

[@clyde1862]

Did anyone else notice the spectacular BA Concorde? 😲

[@ChrisZoomER]

At least they still fly their 772s!

[@flyeagle320]

Long time subscriber from almost 5 years . Really a good job 🔥🔥❤️❤️

[@rasheedh966]

Which hotel did you stay in Dubai how near metro station

[@gayaraaukwaththa9170]

Simply Aviation Checkout the emirates 777-300ER Its starting to be a 5 star airline In 2022 I flown it yesterday and It was Awsome!

[@virginiafry9854]

@2:20 - the business class looks a 1-3-1 configuration

[@timames4405]

To be honest, it isn't as bad as you make out! Yes, the media screens are abit old and could do with a refresh. However, I wouldn't like to be down the back in 10 across configuration!

[@tarquin2trappybro]

It’s pretty poor for the price imo! Our BA plane was very dated and cheap feeling, the window blind was even broken…

[@CurvedGD]

In my opinion with anything is as follows: Old = Cozy, wide, superbly comfortable, well designs and absolute gold. New = Cramped, uncomfortable (varies), more focused on compacting and disregards any liking for customers and passengers, poop

[@CurvedGD]

I like old stuff

[@Thanosbreak]

the ife system is horrible

[@CurvedGD]

@@Thanosbreak yes, agreed

[@Blank00]

So people have been complaining against United for taking a long time to complete Polaris retrofits, yet nobody is complaining about BA still having old cabins 3 years after introducing their new cabins? Make it make sense!

[@Blank00]

United and Qatar Airways: Sorry that the rollout of our new cabins are slow British Airways: Hold My Beer

[@ianmintz12806]

How about a flight review of the Etihad A380 Residence and the Emirates 777 game changer first class suite

[@BomberFletch31]

The 777 is my favourite aircraft type, so regardless of objectivity, I would generally choose a 777 over any other aircraft type if the choice is available. I'm old enough to remember reading about the 777 when it was in development, dubbed "The 21st Century Jet" by an author who wrote an account of the 777's development stages. I recall watching highlights of its first flight on the news on TV. So I have some affinity to the 777. It's hard to believe that that was almost 28 years ago now 😯

[@richardstreet7518]

Yep, remember flying on BA 777 'ZE' mid 90s when she was only 3 weeks old...

[@RAS2525]

I wish there was a British Airways A380 flight from Manchester To Kuala Lumpur video.

[@AviationRailAdventures]

BA don't fly the A380 between Manchester and Kuala Lumpur. In fact they don't have any long-haul routes from MAN at all.

[@anguscovoflyer95]

we dont really see 3-3-3 economy seating on 777's that much anymore

[@kookgiuliani1992]

Fly Saudia . They have 14 of 777-300ER out of total with 3-3-3 configuration.

[@Сергей-б5е8б]

Девид спасибо тебе что ты не смотря ни на что показываешь видео обожаю тебя

[@matthewpotter8491]

This was exactly the crap I flew in when heading from London to St Lucia a few years back. We’d paid for premium economy (and not being a plane person) I was really looking forward to the experience. It wasn’t great. The plane felt dirty and the IFE was laughably bad. The screen was terrible and so pixilated compared to my iPad. Honestly even my smaller iPhone was better. In fact my iPhone from about ten years ago probably had a better screen.

[@Anonymous-uv5ky]

I love how this channel reviews honest and realistic content that people will most likely be traveling in; not just "luxury business/first class" with loads of unnecessary drama... Trek Trendy, Nonstop Dan, and Jeb Brooks are all victims of that whilst commenting how "shocked" they are about being the only ones in first-class... Business travel is a thing of the past and I hope their KZbin careers are parachuting them back down to earth along with first class itself.

[@danieljones1797]

Business clas isn't really dying just getting less popular

[@Anonymous-uv5ky]

@@danieljones1797 That's true; Business class will stay although most airlines are limiting or thinking of eliminating First Class for premium economy - makes more profit than First Class and in high demand - cause why buy a car when you can fly first class roundtrip?!? - They probably assume people who fly first class could also afford a private jet at that point

[@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2]

Nonstop Dan is even worse than being shocked at how few people are in first, he just acts Like a spoiled brat whenever he dosnt get what he wants. In his first class review of etihad or something when people didn’t wanna be filmed and told him he was talking to loud he acted like it was literally the end of the world and people had offended his ancestors instead of just editing them out and being quiet

[@danieljones1797]

@@staycgirlsitsgoingdown2 he's so annoying tbh

[@Anonymous-uv5ky]

@@danieljones1797 THIS IS HOW HE SHOULD BE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWPIgJSpmqxjmZY

[@blueking8480]

Hey, Can you do Norwegia air from Oslo into Delhi?

[@ajayphilip]

Just one question, how do get enough money to get on these flights

[@subhanyusaf9266]

Why does ba always have small TV screens

[@ChasetheG]

The seat looks like It’s stuck in 2009. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@130rapid]

David - .....Good old BA. British Airways PR specialists, plucking hair: - Our campaign for younger passengers has just collapsed.

[@appledude1221]

Same to you sir thank you

[@cherylrutter3675]

So how much would that be in US dollars?

[@idkatthispoint-s9s]

Flew BA's 777-200 in Club World from Delhi to London just last month, wasn't dissapointed! Well that's probably because it was club World😂 but the cabin was nice, the food was tasty and the crew was really professional and sweet!

[@MTL24]

I’ve just landed in a ba flight from South Africa in a B 777 flew club world and it was shocking. The seats are complete outdated I was facing backwards and sleeping quite literally next to someone. Furthermore there is no direct aisle access when the other seat next to be is made into a bed, so you have to climb over them. Also don’t agree the soft product is good. The food is poor, it’s just served in glass, China and with metal cutlery. A frankly poor experience and would not recommend. I have heard good things about BA’s new business class but not worth the lottery if you get the old one (still very common)