BMW F22 M240i Or F87 M2? Which One Is Right For You?

[@ShogunsDojo]

Here in the UK, there’s a premium of up to £10k for a N55 M2 over an M240i, for my use I couldn’t justify an M2. Perhaps one day, but I added a torsen (quaife) LSD and widened the front and rear tracks with lower offset wheels and the car’s handling has changed quite a lot. It rolls much less and is far more stable both at high speeds and hard cornering. It also seems to rotate a lot more on the throttle and will get into that oversteer position with virtually no understeer to the point that I no longer feel the car needs lower control arms. Wider front track has also improved steering feel, weighting and feedback dramatically. I consider myself more of an enthusiast and the M2/M2 Comp is an aspirational car for me still but at this point neither of them will offer me anything my M240i comp can’t, they’ll just do it in a more aggressive and better looking package. If you’re willing to put some money into handling mods the M240i will deliver. It’s no M2 but I like it’s understated smooth character, it has a classic bmw personality all of its own while I feel the M2 range represents the very best of M. I do think however that if my car wasn’t a manual I’d feel too isolated from the driving experience, where’s the DCT keeps you connected. Otherwise you really can’t go wrong. Sorry for the essay, another great video SCT!

[@SimplyCarThings]

Just pinned your comment, because I think you summed up the two in a very excellent manner. Well said bro!

[@ShogunsDojo]

@@SimplyCarThings thanks man, I’m still yet to drive an M2. Hopefully one day soon 🤞🏾

[@Mac_F87]

I’ve just traded in my PFL RS3 for an OG M2. I toyed won’t getting an M140i and using the savings to get Quaife diff and sort out all the other small niggles. I test drove the M140i when they first came out but when I test drove the M2 on Friday I was sold straight away. Hopefully the factory LSD helps with out in the beautiful British weather lol.

[@TimChump]

I wish they put the b58 in the OG M2 🥲

[@micraw714]

Would've been the perfect match!

[@SimplyCarThings]

yea i think that wouldve been an excellent decision by the M division

[@justanotherfluteguy]

Worked at a BMW dealer for couple months before I relocated to Missouri, and just got my 2018 M240i xDrive couple days ago and I am absolutely loving every second of it!

[@Jsc8zaq]

The perfect car IMO

[@SimplyCarThings]

awesome bro, congratulations!

[@justanotherfluteguy]

@@SimplyCarThings thank you so much!! sapphire black metallic with coral red interior!

[@mevans313]

I really wanted an M2, but ended up getting an M240i xdrive. As someone that doesn’t track my car, the M240 was the more logical choice. Cheaper, more tuning potential with the B58, and a more comfortable all around daily driver. If I tracked my car or lived somewhere with no snow, I’d have gone with the M2. But, throw a tune and exhaust on the M240i and it’ll be just as nice as an M2 on most back roads.

[@SimplyCarThings]

most definitely! I think you justified your purchase perfectly. Hope you're enjoying that M240!

[@wrightEni]

“Throw an exhaust and tune” won’t get you even close to an M2 on a back road. I know because I’ve tried also in a straight line the M2 is a bit faster better car for value is the 240i however and more daily driving

[@nicogm9882]

@@wrightEnithat‘ll get you damn close, here in germany the m240i xdrive seems to actually has LESS weight than an m2 and more NM and only 35ps less, you can definitely gap a m2 with stage 1+ m240i

[@wrightEni]

@@nicogm9882 maybe in Germany, a buddy of mine has a 240 and needs a tune to keep up with a bone stock M2. Also driving his car has no soul fun car to drive in a straight line but I’ll rather be in a Miata on the back roads. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Saiyan585]

More tuning potential? The N55 in the M2 has the S55 oil pan and sump, and the S55's internals.

[@defyyourlogic487]

I have a 240i. Handling leaves some to be desired but the b58 is great. It's my daily but I hit the canyons a few times a month with it. With just a JB4 + downpipe I basically walk away from my buddy's 5.0. Although I'd love to trade up to an f80 or m2c in the next 2 years.

[@SimplyCarThings]

that would be an awesome upgrade, i agree handling isnt perfect with the M240

[@ItzAntonTV]

Jb4 is a big mistake for the b58. Mhd Really…and I mean really! Brings out the performance with a catless downpipe, mhd stage 2 you’ll be pushing 490 sub 500hp numbers and an xhp stage 3 transmission tune will help your shifts be more aggressive in sports plus and for the shifting time to be much shorter. Some upgrades you should definitely consider as you are wasting your b58 on a shitty module!

[@shayanrahimi4754]

Really great content. Been on the fence for months now but this definitely helped me decide to go down the M2 route

[@SimplyCarThings]

glad to hear it brotha, looking forward to seeing that M2 😎

[@mikelauzon3014]

I recently traded (March 2021) my 2017 M240i X for 2018 M2 LCI I loved my M240 but the M2 is a different level car. LBB 6spd MPE Thanks for your videos Your knowledge and insight was a big reason for my purchase

[@TJ-cw3mv]

I never considered the m2, just purchased an lci 2018 M240i X-Drive, due to having snowy winters and bad roads, the suspension in comfort mode is excellent and b58 made the choice for me

[@justinmaccreery2490]

When looking to buy an M240i in 2017, it was almost impossible to find one with a manual sitting on a dealer's lot. However, the $10k more M2's almost all had the manual. However, at the time, dealers were adding an additional $10-15k premium on the M2, so I ended up with a M240i (a manual was finally found after about a month of searching). It has been a true joy to drive... About a year ago, stopped to test drive an M2 Comp and the engine was clearly a step above my M240i's, but little else about the car was so special to persuade me to trade in the M240i. That being said, the sport suspension on the M240i is wanting. It tends to loose traction on hard, bumpy road acceleration and that wasn't apparent when testing the M2 Comp, so the analysis that if you want to track the car, that might be reason enough to get the M2 (that, and the beefed up suspension, limited slip drive, and extra brakes; all unnecessary on the road)

[@LloydThomas-jr8bb]

I just bought my 2020 m240i and loving it. Im now preparing for my mods. I chose m240i because its AWD, winter weather here in Canada are tough on winter. My first car was dodge challenger rt and its RWD, its not really good in winter😂, its going sideways. M2 was really cool, more power and look really cool RWD and more expensive. Im good with my am240i loved it.

[@paulpateman6723]

Head says M240i heart says M2 love them both Omar great video as always Bro 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍

[@SimplyCarThings]

thanks bro, agreed :))

[@ronin120]

same for me...heart says M240i but the heart wants the M2. I will probably go with the 240i...southwest, PA and our winters, do not think it would be smart to go M2 for me.

[@dwaynebolan2583]

Awesome video! Please make a f30 340i vs g20 M340 video

[@tractioncontroldelete]

I’ve been so curious about this matchup. Thanks for the breakdown!

[@Saiyan585]

The M2 has the N55B30T0. S55's internals and oil pump, pan, etc. Levels above the other N55 variants.

[@chrischadwick5395]

It’s a tough one. Here in the UK the m240i pre owned can be had for like over 10 grand less than the M2, and the performance is so close!!

[@conor_kelly]

Hey bro, love your vids. I used to watch your 335i vids, now I'm selling my own and I'm trying to decide what to go for next, and here we are 😂.

[@ian.M440]

Great review the m240 for me 👍

[@TheSpeedAddiction]

I have driven both extensively and I think that the OG M2 is easier to drive fast on a twisty road or track straight out of the box. In my experience, I have to work a lot harder in the M240i but the cornering speeds are actually pretty similar, if the M240i has good tires. Also, a tuned B58 could claw back any handling deficiencies on the straights, even if the N55 was tuned. Simply Car Things can attest to how fast I am in the M240i. A tuned M2 Competition is a different story.

[@francisgomes9976]

Great video, in terms of M2 comp vs m240i, M2 comp is a better buy. Lets see what new gen M2 has to offer.. in terms of looks and size/weight this is gen M2 can't be matched tho..

[@SimplyCarThings]

Oh for sure M2C is better!

[@Saiyan585]

​@SimplyCarThings And $30k more on the market. B58>S55

[@AutomotiveTherapy]

Nice video man!

[@andrebassila3602]

Engine and drive train, M240i no doubt about it, looks and handling, OG M2.

[@Saiyan585]

The N55 in the M2 has the S55's internals and oil sump, pan, etc. Without the S.

[@victoryang9115]

Hello, want some opinions here. Would you buy the G20 330i or F22 M240i? For the same price I can get a 60k mile M240i or a 30k mile 330i. Thanks!

[@danielmccarty9059]

Great video

[@nature4free283]

about 3 months ago I purchased a 2018 F26 X4M40i I was so excited to be in a B58 World. with some riserch I ran in to this channel, I learned that my x4 still came with the latest N55 that Puts 355hp I’m wondering if it’s a Detuned engine from Early M2?

[@SimplyCarThings]

You know thats a great question. I think I read somewhere that it is actually the same variant as the M2's N55. I could be wrong but i'll look into it

[@jlnmlng8372]

Great Comparison, thank you! 👍🏽🙂

[@SimplyCarThings]

thanks for watching!

[@FULLSENDBRETT]

The m240i is a superb bmw car. I think the best “non” bmw for its price is the m340i

[@cokemachine62590]

Why'd you choose not to include the M2 comp in the comparison? Price point?

[@Richard--99]

Very well done video

[@SimplyCarThings]

thanks!!

[@LuchoCampusano]

Great info

[@Benjay1975]

The m140 is where it's at :)

[@motaz1975]

sounds to me you can go wrong either way, just get the one the suits you better. you did forget one thing though, you can get a drop top 240.

[@SimplyCarThings]

Yea that sums it up well. Yes true, verts are offered with the 240 if that's your thing haha

[@f22_b58]

Hey guys does anyone know what insurance is like with these two

[@peterwood2633]

An M2 starts conversations with car and non car peoole. Friend had an m235i, thought M2s a waste. Gave him a drive in my car, within seconds he said 'yeh this is different'

[@vlonezay8054]

240 all the way

[@jimmybraden3334]

might be what I replace my 335IS with .. but not real soon.. :-)

[@SimplyCarThings]

wouldnt be a bad replacement!

[@alexamorin5534]

M2?

[@bmw-rebuilder-8639]

335i n54 engine tuning capabilities are endless... I've seen these cars run over 1k whp.

[@Saiyan585]

All 3 platforms can. The N55 in the M2 has the S55's internals and oil sump and pan.

[@Vision33r]

Without LSD, you can't drift in the M240i.

[@Thewinnerscircle_]

thats cool and all but neither of these can keep up with my 335i MHD flame tuned :) try to keep up with me in the canyons and in a roll race ;) put money on it, maybe race for pinks ;) thanks ok

[@SimplyCarThings]

damn, id love to run the togue with you sometime! I think i could surely give you a run for your money assuming you don't crash ;)

[@Thewinnerscircle_]

@@SimplyCarThings bro I run with the best of them. Ben’s Bimmer and life of KG. You wouldn’t dare try us in the canyons.

[@TheSpeedAddiction]

Let's race for pinks. I know you have over 10 grand under the hood!

[@teamboozt]

Calm down, Anyone can put money in their car and beat someone else's car. Sit down and be quiet.

[@mrmiagi6052]

240!!! B58!!! 6spd!!! No n55 for me

[@Saiyan585]

The N55 in the M2 isn't a regular N55. It has the N55B30T0. S55 internals and oil sump.

[@exposingdemocrats8370]

BMW sucks ass. Get a AMG or RS.

[@generalkenobi8899]

Why would you want an understeery VW with no steering feedback and a boring ass design? No thanks.

[@Saiyan585]

Delusional.

[@TENNESSEETRACKHAWK]

There is nothing more annoying than watching a utuber beg ppl to subscribe..... its sounds lame bro u should quit doing that really smh