The Truth Of Ciel's Past REVEALED! Ciel Phantomhive EXPLAINED (Black Butler/Kuroshitsuji)

[@Dontwannaknoow]

I feel so bad for our Ciel, the reason why he always acts so strong willed and fearless is because he is trying to be the person his brother always strived to be

[@rinchan24]

Actually, I believe that the present Ciel has always been strong, but he didn't believe it. It takes strength to be kind and to sacrifice your life like he did, for his brother and for finding out the truth.

[@aizenthetrollking8583]

rinchan24 I think it’s both what you normal functioning human beings said. He’s acting so fearless and mentally strong because he wanted to be like his brother,which is what gave him the confidence to believe in himself and that he’s indeed a strong person. He felt confident about himself because he was actually acting like his brother,not himself. Because he thought that his brother was a superior being compared to himself.

[@rinchan24]

@@aizenthetrollking8583 yes, he thinks that his brother is superior to him, that he's just a spare (which is a shame, because it's not true- he has the strength of kindness, which his brother doesn't possess). it't also true that Ciel could be so strong because he "became" his brother, like you said. which is why he seems so disoriented (and weak) when his brother reappears

[@aizenthetrollking8583]

Maria Dark Lord Yamcha

[@gachaunicornwolfgalaxywolf3620]

Emma Idunno yet the brother was so mad

[@tinytsun]

When you're a die-hard Kuroshitsuji fan but you didn't notice ANY of this ish until after Past Ciel comes back home...BRUH. Wild is not the word to describe how I've been feeling these past few months.

[@Dontwannaknoow]

lαẕy lαẕuli I have always found it suspicious how Sebastian never called him Ciel, but it makes sense now. He can't tell lies thus his name isn't Ciel

[@milkyramen]

Emma Idunno although he made a contact in his name Sebastian doesn't really call him Ciel...

[@blairm3490]

I nearly died

[@jiminbias5082]

lαẕy lαẕuli same I feel stupid

[@Kumi12341]

lαẕy lαẕuli yup I was pissed at myself for never noticing it. As soon as that popped up, past chapters started flooding my mind instantly and I went back and realized what I knew about Ciel was a lie.

[@theprancingpony6075]

Does that mean Elizabeth was engaged to Past Ciel? That would explain why in the anime she says that when came back he was shorter than she was? It would also explain about why Ciel wanted a wife who isn't scary, cough cough strong, but then seems shocked when she says that and says it's all in the past?

[@phantomazure9958]

Yes, Elizabeth was engaged to Ciel (the real one).

[@reeznevhater]

Why wouldn't she be? 😬

[@lulu_la_luna]

The two twins were born the same day, so I doubt their height has any difference. But the reason why both/he was shorter than Lizzy is because they were starved, raped, and abused for a month

[@clavch]

@@lulu_la_luna Wait what? They got rape? Seriously?

[@anastasia-cs8mv]

Oh

[@leeki-el2610]

In one of the flashbacks in Book of Atlantic, when Ciel uttered his name Sebastian said "You told me not to lie but you seem quite a liar" ...so this is what he means.

[@starsong9711]

Indeed, Sebastian saw right past O!Ciels lie. Also notice how O!Ciel kind of hesitated to say his name is “Earl Ciel Phantomhive”.

[@ellie5017]

@@starsong9711 Why does the fandom call the fake Ciel "O!Ciel"?

[@starsong9711]

Elizabeth Arias it stand for our Ciel. Since no one knows his real name and he’s the Ciel we know and not the real Ciel that’s the name he was given by the fandom

[@deadmanomegagaming4061]

Also, when he goes to visit his parents graves in book of the Atlantic it shows four identical gravestones minusing our ciel that leaves three grave stones, one for Rachel, one for Vincent and one for ciels twins. Although it's been confirmed anyway in the manga chapters so I guess this is just another little tidbit

[@tohma5418]

@@deadmanomegagaming4061 you forgot the dog or the dog is in different place lol this thing bothers me so much once it pops out of my head lol

[@DarkFaeCosplay]

That why our Ciel is “weak” he isn’t but he has all these illness while his brother didn’t have any issues

[@ktk.fadingblue136]

I faintly remember at one point Elizabeth questioning present Ciel's health and saying how he was never sick, so I guess that may have been another hint

[@nataliawashington872]

And also how he didn’t know how to dance, but in BOA we see Real!Ciel knowing how to fence and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was taught how to dance as well

[@clp6305]

HEY!!

[@mayura7210]

@@nataliawashington872 In which chapter is Ciel seen doing that?

[@debayanbhattacharya7247]

Also, when Elizabeth is in front of the gravestones mourning the death of the Phantomhives in the Book of the Atlantic, there are four gravestones, instead of the three we would assume.

[@Katzztar]

And that's not the only time. I think it was in the flashback of the Circus arc it showed our-Ciel first returning to the mansion with Sebastian and visit the graves. There are three obvious ones with names of Vincent, Rachel & Ciel. Look at them the three tombstones are different from others in the graveyard. While Ciel's grave was on reader's right side of the parent's graves, there was 4th tombstone on the other side. We can't read anything on it but its design that matched the tombstones of the other three showing they were a set of 4 tombstones of identical design.

[@isabelladeck4105]

The dog? ;-;

[@gacha_gamer3191]

OMG NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT

[@Nadeshiko.]

WTF I DON'T UNSERTAND ANYTHJNH

[@fuyu_jo6948]

Katzztar it’s not just ciel and his parents grave it’s I assume the entire phantomhive grave cuz we see more than 4

[@xx-sg8wx]

I find it pretty awesome that our Ciel was not only able to become Earl in real Ciel's place, but was also able to achieve his dream of running a toy shop--a.k.a. the humongous Funtom Company--too.

[@uzhmaa]

When the chapter came out that revealed our Ciel's dream of ownining a toy company I was like aiiiiy it came true XD

[@fatima5936]

at least his childhood dream become true

[@ellie5017]

I always thought the toy shop was his father's too. It's so cute how he actually started his own toy company.

[@betzabesuazo9784]

Undertaker seemed to know Vincent quiet closely. Undertaker is definitely a huge character that is going to bring us a plot twist man. I can feel it.

[@milkyramen]

Betzabe Suazo you SHOULD REALLY read the manga...

[@betzabesuazo9784]

Malika Rahman I have read the manga, it's great

[@milkyramen]

thats so true cant wait for the next chapter since chapet 137 was so shoort

[@milkyramen]

in what chapter does it say so indeed this makes me curious as it was never mentioned but undertaker is known as a family friend, a close family friend.. I'm curious if you dont mind please send the chapter if ypou dont mind as a cannot recall this being metioned or even brought up..

[@milkyramen]

yeah I understood that but I was confused what Mexulexi said no offence what she said

[@microscopicchibi]

In the Anime in the flashback scene in Book of Circus the man says “He's worth the price of two children"

[@bassy_michaelis_666]

Love ur name

[@feiwnakausvkaxbdkebkswowbq8331]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[@clp6305]

,nihbihbhi

[@clp6305]

@@bassy_michaelis_666 Sebastian!!, are you making weird accounts on KZbin again??!??

[@bassy_michaelis_666]

@@clp6305 😳 seems like i was busted my lord

[@lynnwoo9813]

THAT IS WHY SEBASTIAN NEVER CALLED CIEL BY HIS NAME!!! MINDBLOWN!!!! :O

[@chrissyg1760]

No, it's because Ciel ordered him not to refer to him by name when the contract was made.

[@rinchan24]

@@chrissyg1760 Yes, because Sebby is not allowed to tell lies and calling his master Ciel would be a lie since it isn't his real name

[@akechispancake]

Also since back in the 19th century (time this was taken place) Calling your master by the real name would be improper and you could possibly get fired

[@grim3512]

@@akechispancake or killed

[@KuraMachine]

No its because I ordered him not to call me by my “name”

[@vonnalol]

I noticed in the anime, he said "nobody will save us" I was like ,wtf there is only one of you

[@brooklynaaliyah4483]

vonna lol there where more children in other cages, that's why it wasn't weird that he "us" instead of "me".

[@vivientang9792]

anime usually shows when a main character is like, suffering, you seem them in pain, but now it looks like, its not really seeing another view of the character, at a different camera view, its their actual memories and views from the character ,so this threw me off

[@hobistinyheartbag]

I REMEMBER THIS! I FUCKING REMEMBER PAUSING AND REWATCHING THE ANIME 6 YEARS AGO OOHHH MYY GOODNESS MIND BLOWN

[@m0thgvtzz.775]

I heard that to and i was like, wait wha-

[@secretaccgoodluckfindingit6495]

well there was also a bunch of other kids

[@blairm3490]

I'm thinking that undertaker revived past ciel from the dead

[@andymr3097]

Blair M you maybe right

[@wwhiteblossom4549]

I was thinking the exact same thing! Right now, that's the only way that makes sense...

[@debayanbhattacharya7247]

I also think he was the one who started the fire in the household, and that's why he had to give up being a Shinigami

[@blairm3490]

That actually makes sense, but I think he gave up being a shinigami after incident with claudia

[@debayanbhattacharya7247]

Blair M I think you're right about the Cloudia part. Seeing how those charms are so close to him.

[@Lex77755]

The only thing what bothers me is why no one cared about Ciel’s brother. They found him, and without any question automatically assumed, he is Ciel, and no one asked question about what happened with his twin little brother, where is him, or what happened with THEM. They act as if he never existed.

[@rubiee_3624]

I remember in one chapter, when our Ciel think that Lizzy and the other wont be happy because he's the one alive rather than real Ciel. That breaks my heart..

[@-iicookiie-7300]

@@rubiee_3624 IKRRR that’s one of the reasons why he took ciels name bc he thought no one would be happy to see him

[@joshaine4458]

I think no one really wants to mentioned what happened in the past because it was horrible maybe they think to never mentioned it for the sake of the one who survive to move on.

[@theconfusedvampire]

I have a strong hunch that "the past Ciel" is still dead. I'm pretty sure The Undertaker created his best Zombie, yet. Based on "the past Ciel"'s behavior.... he doesn't seem to have a soul. "The past Ciel" wouldn't do what he is doing to his brother if he had a soul, in my opinion.

[@zy6696]

Yea I think that too since when fake Ciel went to school to investigate one of the queens relatives it was revealed tht he was another one of undertakers zombies except much more evolved This might have helped the undertaker to finally present the real Ciel which is just another zombie just more evolved

[@earlgreymilktae]

TheConfusedVampire Well, in the Luxury Liner arc (Book of Atlantic), Undertaker explained that his bizarre dolls were coming after people because they were searching for a soul to take. So I think the reanimated corpse of R!Ciel has his soul now because when he was around humans (like in the manor) he wasn’t trying to attack them, which suggests that his body does not need a soul anymore because it probably already has one. The question is, how??

[@monamarples9264]

@@earlgreymilktae maybe UT was able to take it back from Sebastian when he stabbed him with his Reaper- soul- collecting weapon thing and then gibe it back to r!Ciel.

[@starsong9711]

It had more to do with the blue cult, they needed blood. When Lizzy showed up after a few days she never returned and was mad when Sebastian went to “save” her and bring her back to O!Ciel. They needed more Sirius blood cause that’s both R!Ciel and O!Ciels blood type. R!Ciel was probably found in time and they started collecting blood from people for him, more likely with the help of undertaker. When the P4 we’re found out the physic dude, can’t remember his name, probably hunted them down and convinced them they would be doing good, since Violet has Sirius blood fortune dude told him what was going on but not even Violet knew who the blood was going to. Fortune dude probably got help from undertaker and with that used the blood they were collecting to heal R!Ciel. When R!Ciel found Lizzy had been going to the parties he probably had them bring her to him. Explaining why she said she wouldn’t return to “that” side, O!Ciels side. Undertaker has still not perfected his Bizzare dolls and R!Ciel acts to human to be one.

[@xrvynth_595]

Bingo.

[@dyslexicreader469]

Don’t forget, Elizabeth told him that she made him Easter eggs when they were younger. But that was a lie. And then she later thought for her self, that that never happened. But ciel pretends that he remembers a fake memory. I’m not making sense. I’m sorry. But my point is she comments about him not remember stuff they did and did not do. It’s from volume 14.

[@PlagueBunny]

I really need to read the manga.

[@SimplyGrouchy]

manga>anime

[@Forrunnerkiller3]

SimplyGrouch Actually i'm gonna disagree with you there. For me it's Anime season1&2

[@malanala7371]

Claire Farron I choose manga, but only because the anime is a bit inconsistent sometimes.

[@slayy9091]

None of Your Business I prefer the manga so ya read it!

[@BeckettLA]

Yes you do, the manga is excellent! The first half of season 1 of the anime follows it mostly. Stop watching after the curry cook off episode, then watch S3 Book of Circus, Book of Murder OVA, then Book of Atlantic movie and you’ll only be 3 story arcs behind the manga.

[@jem488]

Ciel Phantomhive: *Exposed*

[@KuraMachine]

I wasn’t “Exposed”. I’m just a liar.

[@xrosex9140]

Ciel Phantomhive, You aren’t my betrothed then?

[@KuraMachine]

LIZZIE! WHAT A SURPRISE! 😅

[@Daelyah]

"NEXT TIME ON SPRINGER!"

[@xrosex9140]

:((

[@gowthersbitch3956]

so the real ciel died and his twin took over has him and nowthe real ciel is back and now the twin and sebastian are shitting themselves. legit

[@han8281]

Wait what

[@joroda7950]

No, the twin died, and our Ciel took over his place. Thats why he acts strong, he is pretending to be his brother. And the demon took over the role of our Ciel. I didnt understand the last part you said though

[@Nadeshiko.]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN ME, THE MEMORIES OF CIEL WITH ELIZABETH ARE NOT HIM? I DON'T UNDERSTAND? I HAVE ONLY SEEN THE MOVIES AND OVAS AND ANIME?? WHY ARE U TALKING OF A TWINN? WTF?

[@Nadeshiko.]

Never mind. I read the manga

[@deathuru]

N lmao i was gonna comment read the manga

[@isabellealmeida1233]

Oh yeah there’s also this part in book of Atlantic when we look at Sebastian’s memories where Ciel says something like “ I am ciel phantomhive and I am the lead of the phantomhives..” blah blah. He ordered Sebastian to never lie to him then Sebastian said something about ciel being a liar even though he requested him not to lie. He was calling him a liar because ciel isn’t his real name lol

[@Yasi.0507]

Wait.. demon can sense lies?

[@kathrinlindern2697]

​@@Yasi.0507 Demon had just devoured one kids soul, and the other boy did use his brother's name afterwards once or so, I think, demanding Sebastian give Ciel's soul back. I guess the demon figured that two twins do not usually have the same first name.

[@Ilovecookies-gb1bh]

I saw the personality change and I was like “wtf is up with Ciel??” in the flashback

[@RiasatAmin]

Same, I was like wut tf just happened

[@Kuroshiro24]

I came here to be spoiled Tell me everything grouch I'm ready

[@luhgvekr5302]

undertaker... that's all i can say ;)

[@stefanikaci6915]

Kaitlin Ayes i have been in love with that man since i laid eyes on him🤣

[@stefanikaci6915]

btw i ruined the 888 sorry😂

[@marbelsreyes5374]

1k like it took 2 yrs. But here you go

[@katsukibakugou5501]

Same Im still on episode 5-

[@OtakuKawaiiKat]

Yana’s assistants: So what is Sebastian’s true form? Yana: everything Yana’s assistants: wh- Yana: did i stutter manga readers will understand

[@andreapadilla4859]

egg true... so very very true *looking at those pages again* O_O

[@jiminbias5082]

egg 6

[@saucyfellow4494]

egg I love your profile picture Hunter x hunter is the best.

[@blueeyedwitch9840]

OMG RIGHT!?

[@alanazunikoff4249]

Waiiit I read the manga but don't understand!! Help me :-; my brain doesn't work

[@RD0204]

Thinking about the fact that only one twin has asthma; when Imposter Ciel has the asthma attack in the Circus Arc Sebastian asks him why Imposter Ciel never told him about his having it and Imposter Ciel never actually gives a direct answer. It's possible that Imposter Ciel never said anything so that his true identity would not be revealed. If Imposter Ciel had told Sebastian he had asthma Sebastian would probably have asked Madam Red about it. She would have realised Imposter Ciel wasn't the real Ciel and Imposter Ciel's cover would have been blown.

[@mjm3091]

Rebecca Dunville They all knew - as Tanaka already stated it when real Ciel come to the mansion. It isn't that big of a deal actually - they saw that he decided to sacrifice himself and lose his identity so Phantomhives won't die. Madam Red still loved them both, so it wouldn't change the story at all. The only issue is that - our Ciel left his brother to death stealing his demon (which he probably didn't do willingly/consciously).

[@lizzywoods1964]

The real Ciel didn’t leave his brother to die. He sat there and watched as his older brother was murdered, with a stab to the stomach, which definitely pierced some organs. He had died. Sebastian submerged from the past Ciel after our Ciel called him. The only real possibilities of the past Ciel being brought back is either from the undertaker or someone making him a demon before he had died. It’s the only things that we can think of. This Ciel really had asthma while the other one didn’t and I haven’t read the manga but I have done my research. Ciel loves his brother very much and he didn’t want to leave him but he knew that in order to be the head of the phantomhives he had to act like his older brother but like another viewer had said our ciel still got his dream of building the toy factory aka The Funtum company

[@yagirl177]

Sebastian already knows he’s not the real Ciel though

[@daifuku6454]

This whole twin things falls into place when we notice the inconcistency of the flashbacks that the Ciel we all know have. Like in one flashback he's the one in the cage, sometimes he's the one at the table going to be sacrificed. And I think to fully summon Sebastian, the sacrifice has to die so how can Ciel be the master and not be dead if he was the one at the table. Also there is that scene at the Book of the Atlantic after which Ciel was rescued by Sebastian from the cult, his shirt is free from blood when in his flashbacks from the earlier arcs of the manga or anime, the one being stabbed on the table was himself. There is also his internal monologue with another him who we assume is just himself from before he made a deal with Sebastian but turns out to be his brother because that is what they do when they werr kidnapped; just communicate with each other and the real Ciel will always comfort the Ciel we all know. but this fckd with my mind for months on end like wtfffffff and then Aini dieeeeeeddddd aaahhh I stopped reading the manga for a while because I can't take it all in just yet 😂

[@V_098]

I think the original ciel was the one on the alter and the now ciel was in the cage since he reached out to touch a shadowy hand

[@ellie5017]

This twist was so freaking crazy

[@seirramoon388]

Season 1:awesome! Season 2: wtf is going on? Season 3: oooh ok that's what's going on!

[@kaxua3795]

omg i kinda hated season 2 it was so dam confusing

[@secretaccgoodluckfindingit6495]

like 70% of the anime isn’t canon

[@preapsocheata222]

Season 2 is just messed up

[@hazalwrld3358]

@@kaxua3795 I SWEAR

[@TheHalloweenSpirit]

Season 1: the first part of the season is canon and the second and last part is NOT canon Season 2: all the season is NOT canon, is like a weird dream from the anime producers (not from the original creator Yana Toboso) Season 3: 100% Canon, is a direct adaptation of one arc of the manga (like the special Book of Murder and the movie Book of Atlantic, also adaptations of two arcs from the manga) Sadly there aren't plans for a new season... (also the horrible japanese live-action movie is not canon at all)

[@kethkei3688]

TWIN My theory is that undertaker successfully brought back the past ciel (older ciel/real ciel) to life, since the book of atlantic thing where there were zombies~ yeah just a guess, and since undertaker was so attached to the Phantomhives he maybe took in past Ciel all these years

[@sarahgrellchen5687]

There a many people who thinking quite the Same Jun kit, Undertaker improved his Dolls trough the Chapters but another Theorie is that the older Ciel is the Blue Star from the Blood Arc Story

[@Abandon3dRain]

Sarah Grellchen the blue star could still be real ciel in form of his 'dolls' he may be improved from his previous dolls but the blood being drawn in the blood arc is probably how undertaker keeps him alive and it gets rid of his hunger to eat others like the past ones he tried on the cruise ship.

[@Saito57G]

Well anyways even if somehow brought back to life, real Ciel is not "fully" alive for sure, after all Sebastian was summoned at the cost of his soul and what was once traded cannot be retrieved. I think he's still a soulless bizarre doll, but improved by the blood injections of the Blue Star. Actually I would like to know more about where did the Blavat come from, after all he is the one that put the whole Sphere Music Hall in motion. Waiting like this every months kills me

[@AcchiKocchifangirl]

I just hope our Ciel will not be arrested in place of the revived older twin since the Police would automatically suspect our Ciel since they only know him as the Phantomhive family head and after hearing his name from one of the stars of the music hall would think of him.

[@seokvlt9985]

Jun kit+ Your theory is correct, the undertaker retrieved past Ciel, it was confirmed in chapter 140

[@jas.minka.]

*reads manga* *gets notification* *looks at title* *who stole the candy from my tummy?*

[@whitetailedrabbit_productions]

ShyGirl Tanya IT JUST CLICKED IN MY MIND WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT TOO!

[@whitetailedrabbit_productions]

TheAnimewolfchick right after sebastian and "ciel" found Agni dead they came across the writing on the wall that said "who took the candy from my tummy" Later on in the manga during the story of the twins the real ciel (not the one who made the contract) had the phantomhive earl ring. So the kidnappers wouldnt find it, he swallowed it and told his brother to keep the secret of the nice blue candy he swallowed

[@sakuyanondo3553]

chani overmier I read up to the current chapters and omg that never occurred to me that was what he meant.

[@whitetailedrabbit_productions]

sakuya nondo i had to think of it it was one of those "Oh Sh*t!!!!!!"

[@sakuyanondo3553]

chani overmier ikr when u realise it it actually makes sense. I didn't think it would take me this long to realise it. One question though past ciel probably knows present ciels the one who took the ring. So is he just targeting people ciel knows? Is That why he wrote that on the wall? Or was that just a message only ciel would know who it's from to realize his brother is back?

[@olivialeigh8098]

Me : * clicks on video * ‘This video will have spoilers’ Me: I’ll be fine .... *a few moments later* Shook ...

[@Ari-vr4kp]

Olivia Leigh same here.

[@soleneptune9498]

Same fam

[@starrix4712]

I need to damn finish the manga, I just stopped during the rituals but now I need to get back on it because it’s been months

[@fantasyc_tsf7150]

heck yeah

[@Butterflygirl244]

People are saying that Our! Ciel's real name is Astre Phantomhive, but even in the recent chapter (Chapter 142) that hasn't been confirmed yet.

[@dragonstouch1042]

AnimeGamer 244 well we need to call him something till then!

[@aprilchan3805]

Well... It sounds nice😂

[@yagirl177]

Even in chapter 166 it isn’t confirmed yet

[@Sir67-2]

Finnaly, im getting tired people confidently saying canon, like who the fuck do you think you are? Its not even confirmed yet

[@awcid]

@@Sir67-2 it’s black butler at this point nothing is canon 😭

[@Zakei_Allen]

Vincent looks a lot like Sebastian.

[@dragonstouch1042]

Za'kei Allen that’s on purpose

[@april-ww5od]

@@dragonstouch1042 oo really

[@dragonstouch1042]

april evora I don’t remember what chapter he says it, but I believe Sebastian said he took the form to make Ciel trust him more

[@ellie5017]

I can't see it, but everyone mentions it 😭

[@dragonstouch1042]

Elizabeth Arias I’m probably wrong but I think it’s the flashback during the boat arc, right after Undertaker hits Sebastian with the death scythe

[@iridescentaurora268]

Watch, Present Ciel’s real name is gonna be revealed to be, like, Aaron, or something

[@nocturnalwaltz]

Sierra Long why Aaron ?

[@Ari-vr4kp]

*Adam* Because *Adams* /always/ fuck shit up in fandoms.

[@AnimepleasegoodXD]

What about Gilbert? Let's list out all British boy's name to figure this out.

[@anlswolo9596]

Sierra Long No. Ciel's true name is smile

[@aj4104]

@@anlswolo9596 it's probably Sirius

[@animelovingchild]

I've seen theories that the undertaker is the one who revived the real ciel, but I think that there was another person that helped. If you go back to the music sphare arc, Blavat make reference to a blue star of Sirius, and I believe that "blue star" was the real ciel. Undertaker kept him barely alive while Blavat was getting the blood needed to bring him back.

[@starx8775]

I thought it was obvious because of what his name means, their blue eyes, Sirius blood, being the Queen’s watchdog/true phantomhive heir etc.

[@uzhmaa]

I have been having the exact same thoughts! I feel like a lot of readers are forgetting previous scenes such as with undertake and the music spare.

[@nocturnalwaltz]

Star X Sirius blood ?

[@martialartsnerd1246]

animelovingchild Sirius Black?

[@vn01208503]

well it is confirmed its undertaker

[@peachy4128]

I think present Ciel's name is Astre. Astre when translated from French is Star. Ciel is sky from French. Soooo, There is a STAR in the SKY. ^×^

[@peachy4128]

Also, the reason why I think past Ciel is alive is because, didn't Sebastian appear over past Ciel? He could've made a contract with him at the same time with present Ciel. But past Ciel could've went into hidng so present Ciel doesn't find out. ^×^

[@Dontwannaknoow]

That one Fangirl I don't think so? Did you see the expression Sebastian made when he saw the "real" Ciel?

[@sweetspringflowers]

That one Fangirl I think the name "Astre" is only a popular fan headcanon, but I personally think it's nice. As for whether Real Ciel is alive, he definitely died on the altar. There was simply too much bloodloss, and *POSSIBLE SPOILER* in the newest chapter, Sebastian is even "playing" with his dead body. Obviously no one is quite sure how he came back, but even if he "came back to life" or was reanimated or something, he did die at first. And the contract is only bound to Our Ciel, since Real Ciel was just a sacrifice, and combined with Our Ciel giving up on God etc. he was the one who unintentionally summoned the demon.

[@peachy4128]

True...I'm just thinking. Also, unrelated, if Past Ciel is the original Ciel....Then he's Lizzie's original fiancé. That also means that Present Ciel x Sebastian. My friends words, not mine.

[@sweetspringflowers]

That one Fangirl Yes, Lizzy was originally engaged to past Ciel. Which is probably why present Ciel acts so strange when she shows him affection. And I know it's a popular ship, but Ciel is only 14, and traumatised at that, so that would be very morally wrong for many reasons... Besides that, your friend might want to read the newest chapter lol. If there was ever a doubt about it, I would say it's now been made completely clear in the newest chapter that Sebastian is purely evil and manipulative, and definitely does not see Ciel as anything other than prey or food.

[@thecatdevi8686]

I am indeed shocked. The scene with Vincent made me confused at first on how did Ciel immediately transfered to his father's left side to his right-

[@mljak]

...aaand changed his personality from outgoing to timid while he was at it. I recently rewatched the anime version of BoC and noticed it like a sore thumb now that I know there are two Ciels. But the first time I watched it, I didn't pay attention xD

[@lonely_potato3173]

Man, I'm crying. We've witnessed Our Ciel's suffering, pain, hardships, and his demise. Especially when he's just treated as a spare. Like, nani is wrong with you people! But still, I wanna' hear Undertaker's side. As of now, all I know is he's behind all this along with some leads. Like, his relationship with Claudia (Our Ciel's grandmother). And that, shinigami's are those people who committed suicide. Man, this manga is really something, and I love it!

[@whitetailedrabbit_productions]

Another thing..... i am literally watching the Book of Atlantic and in Lizzy's monologue when she's fighting the zombies she has a flashback showing Ciel's grave when it shows an aerial view and there are 4 graves not 3 indicating another member of the family

[@lotus8377]

chani overmier it could hv been the dog....

[@blankgirl1958]

They are a type of twins called mirror twins

[@boredombear4237]

I have a twin brother but we are not identical because im a girl.

[@colleennewholy9026]

+Ukyo the Joker Mirror twins are identical, or fraternal. But they have a uniqueness consisting of 'mirror' sides. one may be left handed, and the other right handed. one, may have their heart on the normal side, while the other. Is more on the right. same with all the other organs. Hence, "mirror" twins.

[@blankgirl1958]

Your right Collin New Holy

[@rikkun1921]

Boredom Bear You can still be similar, unless you are non identical twins

[@shizukomayakoshi6161]

I have a twin brother. We look the same uwu but he's more manly cause well... he's a male X3

[@ghalaali9087]

I hate this I HATE this soo much everyone turned his back to present ciel and past ciel took everything from our ciel

[@Lukefortnite]

Yeah I HATE thissss tooo brooo

[@shyamalpaul4745]

Even sebastian turned his back?

[@Lukefortnite]

@@shyamalpaul4745 nope Sebastian would never

[@shyamalpaul4745]

@@Lukefortnite oh thank god

[@Lukefortnite]

@@shyamalpaul4745 yeah I know I love our present ciel an I don’t think people should ruin his reputation an yeah Sebastian wouldn’t ever turn on him

[@uwuowo1510]

Now, in the Atlantic arc there is a part where Elizabeth reflects on the past where “Ciel” told her that strong women where scary, she then apologized to present Ciel for protecting him and he has no recollection of ever saying that to her.

[@jacezbblankji5198]

"2 Ciel in one manga?... blame Undertaker" *only manga readers will get this...* 😂😂😂😂

[@niccadelacruz7280]

😂😂😂

[@lojainsherif8913]

I

[@reeznevhater]

Bro you guys are a special type of breed holy shit y'all are stupid with your "only ____ will get it"

[@aoaoli]

@george new acount copper copper channel migration its always the delinquents

[@ma.yzabelalpagkalinawan9292]

Sips tea* ah yes elizabeth is gonna marry a CORPSE

[@ZimVader-0017]

I'm really curious as to what his real name is. I remember that in the manga Diedrich comments on how Rachel picked "very strange names" for the twins. Ciel means Sky in French, perhaps non-Ciel's name is also French? I also want to learn about what happened to him, how he's still alive (another demon, no doubt), and why did the real Ciel take so long (four years) to finally reveal himself. I've had been feeling really bad vibes from him ever since he was revealed. He did kill Agni afterall. What's really annoying me right now, though, is how this has suddenly turned into "A Thousand and One Nights", they haven't finished one over complicated Ark, and now they've started another. Although, now that I think about it, considering that Bravat knew that Sebastian wasn't human it seems to point that he isn't human either (although Sebastian didn't notice anything unusual), and that the whole Ark will do a full circle and reveal that the real Ciel is behind the whole Music Hall scheme.

[@valivan5083]

Zim Vader0017 if it is another demon, I'd laugh if it's Claude from the anime. Which also makes me wonder if Alois was supposed to be past Ciel, driven insane by torture and his life after the cult burned down which can explain his behavior. And Alois did have a younger brother who was killed. I know the actual story of Alois is different, but there seems to be some parallels with Ciel and Alois, especially with Claudes obsession with Ciel and wanting to merge the two boys souls. If Alois was originally supposed to be Past Ciel it kinda makes sense why Claude would want to have both souls, both being completely innocent and pure as well as tormented and tainted. It's either something like this or Both Ciels merged when Sebastian was called, making Ciel have both personalities, just one personality dominated the other until now

[@WikiAndi172]

Past Ciel is a zombie. Like the zombies from the Campania arc, and the public school arc. Undertaker has been working to prefect his zombie making technique in order to create this new Ciel zombie to, as we've found out, "not lose anymore Phantomhives." The only question now is why? Get ready for another flashback! 😁 I mean I could be wrong, but seriously, if it's not... I. Will. Be. Shooooocked!

[@valivan5083]

Lindsey Phillips ah man that's great lol it makes sense with Book of Alantis from the anime where they had the zombie Titanic ripoff lmao (it was still good tho) But I'm not caught up in the manga yet, so I only know the bits and pieces of the plot

[@AngryPengu]

My friend had a theory of our!Ciel's name originally being Cael Phantomhive, as Cael translates to Sky in Latin. We talked about this at three a.m. high on Red Bull.

[@taetm8868]

Zim Vader0017 stop trying to spoil it lol

[@kashthecrafter]

I really need to read the manga instead of just watching the Anime. Nice with the uploads grouch keep up the good work

[@blairm3490]

Yea, manga is like 100 times better

[@Katzztar]

Yes you do need to read the manga. Ignore seasons 1 & 2. Season 1 diverged in Curry Arc and went all filler. It changed the aged Queen Victoria into a youthful Lolita that appears to same size/age as Ciel. ect. Season 2 is ALL filler and does not have any elements of canonical manga.Season 3 is very good and follows the manga well. The OVAs of Murder Arc and Ship Voyage were done well

[@brocklee1009]

@@Katzztar OMFG THANK YOU MAN IM THOUROGHLY CONFUSED WATCHING THIS VIDEO BC I STARTED SEASON 2 AND AM CURRENTLY CONFUSED. I THOUGHT CIELS SOUL WAS TAKEN AT THE END OF SEASON 1

[@Katzztar]

@@brocklee1009 yeah you can ignore season 2 and end of season 1. Its all filler and has no impact (except bad rumors) on Season 3. Thing is by the 'curry arc', the season 1 of the anime got ahead of the manga so started to make crap up. It suddenly changed the aged Queen Victoria into a young looking Lolita with no explanation of how that happened, esp since the queen is suppose to make public appearances. But yes, part of the filler is that end of season one Ceil has his soul eaten by Sebastian. But then they decided to continue to a season 2 but OPPS anime main star's soul is gone! So they make up some crap excuse to bring Ciel back as a demon but with Sebastian STILL as butler … it was a total clusterfuck that went against canon and went against what was revealed about the demons and the deals made. It made no sense. Thankfully for Season 3, it follows canon and is considered a fresh slate, a reboot if you will, for the anime. Seasons 1 and 2 have no real bearing on it.

[@brocklee1009]

@@Katzztar Ah I see I see. Although season 1 was mostly improvised filler I feel like it was still good and did its job in catching peoples eye. I'm happy that the soul eating part wasn't canon but I do wish some characters were.

[@softasfu-6820]

THIS CAN'T BE TRUE! 2 CIELS AT PRICE OF ONE! I CAN HERE THE FANGIRLS! THEY WON'T GET ENOUGH OF THEM!

[@rachelmcgahey6302]

Anime girl #Kana Obviously your not a fan girl otherwise you woulda known about this half a year ago.

[@melodysplaypen]

It's not all that great/

[@discmeeds]

It's actually pretty depressing 💔

[@rachelmcgahey6302]

Anime girl #Kana true dat

[@alexislara-amerson1472]

*hear

[@flo_wer]

I have never cried so much over a manga before as still images dont really evoke much emotions in me. But I cried when the twins talked about their dreams and real!ciel mentioned about owning a toy company because our!ciel actually made it come true and with all the dark shit going down this just made me emotional. (But i also cried alot when that happened to agni...)

[@dragonstouch1042]

flo wer it was unnecessary and they knew it!

[@flyorwalk1743]

@@dragonstouch1042 ya they sacrificed him to make it know how the real ciel really was ... it was quite depressing and upsetting 😐😣

[@ellie5017]

Prince Soma is so shaken up 😭 But I thought Agni was really strong, like almost Sebastian strong, but he died too fast 😔

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

This cringe ngl 🤭

[@ao_hoshiko7061]

So that is why ciel or should I say our 'present' ciel always say when the ritual scene plays "No one is coming to save us" I was so confused by that because he always repeats that, I know that he is alone but 'us?' Now I know what exactly that means by now, that makes sense

[@ellie5017]

Remember that there were kids with them in other cages, so I assumed he was talking about the other kids

[@gcldchanel]

XIE LIAN IN UR PIC.

[@ao_hoshiko7061]

@@gcldchanel Dianxia's devoted believer!! And forever Hualian!!❤

[@servingstfuhm6287]

It’s sadly known as “the heir and the spar.” Since both were born, it’s a theory that both of them were called “Ceil.” I remember reading a story once about a very rich family adopting a child that looked like their own child and used the child as a doppelgänger to prevent their own child from being kidnapped. It’s very scary when you think about it.

[@tan_the_man]

Whaaaaat?? How did I not realize that scene with him and Vincent???? It's so obvious now!! I just thought Ciel on either side of him was an animation error or something. Wow.

[@robledo6086]

those fillers really screwed black butlers look. its a lot darker than what people believe it is and think its some yaoi to satisfy women. it makes me mad when people refer to the fillers lol ugh BB is so good!

[@earlgreymilktae]

robledo I know right?? Black Butler is such a brilliant series but I think the anime throws people off because much of it is not canon and then people get confused, like “What, but I thought Ciel became a demon?” no

[@vinnymadelynelamata4833]

I personally think the yaoi-ish scenes were there to showcase how evil Sebastian really is. He's a demon it natural he gets off to lust, blasphemy and suffering. But ive only seen the anime.

[@aprilchan3805]

You know- people say that anime is stupid, weird and embarrassing, but they haven't seen any of them... I mean some are, but then there are also really good ones. I just finished book of murder and it's so brilliant... People shouldn't judge something they don't know anything about🤔😒

[@iminwaytoomanyfandoms6944]

as someone who’s seen the anime both sub and dub I don’t like it because so much of it is filler and I just prefer the manga but book of circus, book of murder, and book of the Atlantic in the anime are actually really good, they’re high quality and are accurate to the manga. I just usually recommend if people want to watch the anime to skip season 2 because it’s just pure filler and it really doesn’t make sense in the timeline and things can get a little bit confusing but yeah, the anime is okay but mostly filler sadly lol

[@aprilchan3805]

@@iminwaytoomanyfandoms6944 I've watched season two- it wasn't as good as others (and yeah it didn't make a sence after I started book of circus), but I just wanted to see more of characters so I am glad I watched it.

[@kian723]

People are making it like hes a bad guy. Its actually sad cuz he only pretended to be Ciel because if the remaining survivors in his family knew Ciel was actually dead, he believes they would be more sad, and if it was Ciel who actually lived, they’d be less sad about our Ciel’s death. He pretending to be Ciel so Elizabeth wouldn’t be sad or disappointed that he died, and even admitted to Edward that she’d probably not mean it if she said “I’m glad you’re okay” to the “fake ciel” once he got exposed. Proves that our Ciel carries a heavy burden of feeling unimportant, and only felt loved and cared for by the others because he claimed to be his brother which is really pathetic and depressing

[@ghostl1404]

Yes, that's what I thought at first. *And that's why I hate the real Ciel for blaming everything on the Ciel we all know and love-*

[@karmaundertaker3555]

Soooooo.... ciels brother was sacrificed infront of him on the table while ciel was still in the cage

[@cielphantomhive9725]

Before the twin was confirmed Me : its true im not crazy Them: twins, come on be real After the twin was confirmed Me: I told you! Them : that came out from nowhere! Me: ;-;

[@uzhmaa]

Init!!! Why are so many people saying that Yana has randomly decided to make Ciel have a twin. People are stating crap like " oh the series isn't doing good so she just put this arc in there." Like NO! she's been forboding this since the begninning.

[@nayz1212]

xx Bulbul most people who say that usually only watched the anime or missed the hints in the manga

[@uzhmaa]

Chaoticgarden True true. they're so annoyed trying to shame her like that 😩

[@nayz1212]

xx Bulbul, I know. That's why I try avoiding anime fans, not just this fandom either. Most anime fan who don't read [insert series here] manga are like this so.

[@soccerfan5845]

Artregalia thankfully, there are some...not toxic fans. I would have to be one of them. Pleasure. ^-^

[@socialawkwardness9113]

Manga squad, where are you?

[@natsumehide3978]

My heart broke when everyone turn their back to Our ciel, I am looking at you Elizabeth!

[@HIMEIRO]

after all this years reading kuroshitsuji watching the anime series i am mind blown

[@destinyri5733]

If I was Elizabeth I would've still stayed with our Ciel XD

[@saileshsarkar2655]

Ofcourse

[@alllittlethingzz]

Same

[@natsumehide3978]

Right?

[@aidaamores8492]

Absolutely, real or not. Our boy always saved her (by ordering sebastian of course) multiple times already. And what does the RealCiel do? Just came back and said he was the real deal and lizzie and all OurCiel did for the past four years went straight at him(real ciel).

[@riskycyanide3628]

From Elizabeth's point of view, what she did was the most justifiable thing, even though of course I would've preferred for her to stay y'know. but still.

[@ErenJaeger-cu1bu]

Ohhh...🥺 Ciel is so precious and has such a tragic back story which makes me feel so bad for him😭😭

[@Sarcasm-v8b]

Spoiler: Undertaker revived past ciel so that's how he's alive. The coffin that present ciel sat on actually had past ciel in there.

[@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665]

Here’s something that I’m still not sure about does Sebastian actually have a true form like a default cause he seems to be able to morph into whatever he wants and in the latest chapter he seemed to go in and out of this spiked cloud looking thing but in the end he turned into what I always assumed was his demon form. Eh maybe he is just whatever *puts on sunglasses* the Hell he wants to be

[@uzhmaa]

Sebastian has a real demon form which we have never seen. His current form as "Sebastian" is just a form he currently uses to fulfil the role as being a human butler.

[@QueenMelodyAngel13]

Sebastian is a crow demon, maybe he looks like a crow? Because Sebastian can shape shift and wheres killer heels, I always wondered if he was based on the morrigan (pagan crow goddess) but there is nothing much to back that theory up.

[@ttjung87]

Right I'm wondering too. But whatever his true form is, it's so disturbing that it literally drove Ashe to Insanity leading to his demise.

[@Ari-vr4kp]

I could see him being Mephistopheles though. As someone who’s studied demonology and angelology, I can say that his personality fits the demon king of Time better than any other Mephistopheles I’ve seen. He is the perfect manipulator, he likes to have everything in order, he goes from having a genuine feel to a hatred, that’s Mephistopheles. Mephistopheles is know for being organized, he will typically haunt places that aren’t organized because he gets angry, he likes numbers, he can mess with time, create illusions, sounds a lot like our man Sebastian. And I think that since yana loves to use real demonological terms, real demons, real beliefs and yes real symbols, I would not put it past her to have him as Mephistopheles.

[@Ari-vr4kp]

Oh an he shapeshifts.

[@avaizzo7911]

I feel like Tanaka always knew that he wasn’t the real Ciel. I’m sure he noticed his illness and other factors, but he decided to let O!Ciel keep up his facade.

[@AnimeLover1242]

“And their dog Sebastian”. Me: WAIT HE HAD A DOG?!?!?!

[@rainbowlife3847]

Yes it’s why in book of circus in the flashback we see ciel who told Sebastian that he named his like this cause his dog has this name

[@raicrush]

I'm actually really impressed with this video because it actually explains the twin theory. The fact the twin theory became canon actually pissed me off a lot when it was first revealed, because to me the evidence was so weak especially the evidence during the Kelvin scene. I chalked it all up to the different hair being Ciel's hair moving as he moved around Vincent, the reason why Ciel had been so chipper then back to scared was because Vincent told Ciel to talk, but then the pedo face scared Ciel again. I also would always point out that there were still family and friends who were alive and why wouldn't they be questioning where the other Ciel was. This new chapter and your video actually cleared a lot of it up. I'm still not sure how I feel about the twin Ciel theory, personally, but your video made it a lot easier to understand. Great job!

[@vn01208503]

the author does hint many times but i think due to her plot design skill isnt that good yet so that explain why not many people agree with the theory

[@_ImSmol]

I've waited so long for this....

[@Berries20]

Our Ciel, the one we've been seeing for so long, is the one who made a deal with a demon, NOT the other kid. Gosh, you think a regular 13 year old could be the Queen's gaurd dog?

[@theywereroommates9644]

Harry Pottah: My parents died and I'm trying to fight off a madman with my friends... Rin Okumura: I'm Satan's son and almost whole world is after me... Tsunayoshi Sawada (PROTECT) : I'm the heir of the most powerful Mafia in the world and I've been in the future. Plus I have a bastard for excuse of a father... Our!Ciel: *Bitch, PLEASE*-

[@megancress1384]

I can't believe it's been two years since the reveal and the arc is STILL nowhere near the end

[@HugeWalkingPileOfRegrets]

"hey darling, let's give our kids the same name that way if one die the other can replace him"

[@thisusernameisunavaible2624]

HAHAHAHAHA 😂😂

[@lilymcgillicuddy4074]

According to my research, during the Victorian era, it wasn't weird or uncommon to give twins the same name, and it was even more common among nobles.

[@HugeWalkingPileOfRegrets]

@@lilymcgillicuddy4074 wtf had those people in mind?! Why is it hilarious?!

[@mayura7210]

@@lilymcgillicuddy4074 Really? How crazy. What was wrong with them? Haha How would you know who you are addressing or they know if they are talking to him or his brother. Crazy, man, crazy

[@migaish_]

WAIT WHAT!? I used to read the manga online then stopped because of crappy internet! After this video, I swear I'm getting back into it! Thanks Simply Grouch, great video!

[@wanfathanah4260]

I just hope Sebastian will protect our Ciel eventhough he is not the real Ciel.

[@vn01208503]

oh yea sebastian know hes not, and hes only under contract with the fake ciel not the real ciel anyway

[@awcid]

Sebastian is definitely aware ciel isn’t actually ciel

[@friendlyneighborhoodcrypti7782]

the dad says "Zelph is a little fragile" so I'm gonna guess that is present ciels real name

[@rivai4749]

"His health is a bit fragile"

[@BeckettLA]

So much this!! I was so thrown for a loop when Toboso revealed this that I went back and re-read the circus arc and the first time we see the contract with Sebastian formed from the very beginning... then I was like, “she’s been not-so-subtly hinting at this THE WHOLE TIME!!” It was just the way I read it that made me think there was only 1 Ciel, though I did notice those little inconsistencies, I just shrugged them aside. It makes so much more sense now! Toboso-sensei no tensai! (≧∀≦)

[@dragonheart2272]

Not gonna lie, I really hated this twist.

[@twicesendmeasignal5863]

Same I really hate it TT

[@aubeaury]

Same.

[@tiffanychan5737]

same... fuck the "real" ciel

[@grim3512]

Same

[@Daelyah]

Biggest reason why I have issues with this....I don't want Lizzy gone... 😟

[@zawarrudo3930]

T his W ideo I s N ot bad at all

[@person-ud4jz]

Erik Schneider mmmmmmmmmmm ok?

[@judgementedge8626]

Erik Schneider wideo? -A-) *WIDEO* BRUH-

[@zawarrudo3930]

Dont doubt my grammar skills

[@devencole1597]

Video*

[@mybunnysnowflake]

Purposeful mistake. (TWIN)

[@violetsmith466]

I never noticed that in the anime before now. Oh, my giddy aunt. That's crazy. My mind is blown.

[@azre_rero]

The uno card: reveal eye patched ciel's real name or draw 25 Yana: (gets 25 cards)

[@zsessley]

We all know it was the undertaker. He was experimenting on bringing the dead back to life. It had to be him

[@BPgamemaster12]

I heard about the Twin Ciel's theory long ago but finding out it was true was a true shocker. I wonder what Present Ciel's real name could be; all we could surmise it got to a French name like his brother since it was mention in a flashback that both boys names weren't common for Englishmen.

[@RD0204]

Bobby Pilster Yana Toboso said that she considered Angelo a possible name before she decided on Ciel. Since Ciel means 'heaven' or 'sky' it has a similar theame and also has the irony die to the contract. I would say this could be imposter Ciel's real name.

[@reeceslingby6666]

I, like some others, noticed that somewhere in the manga the Undertaker gave some kind of liquid to Ciel when he was sleeping, this was before all of the major twin things happened. Then when we see him in the next panel he is being woken up by Sebastian and he doesn't have the contract symbol in his eye, despite that Sebastian doesn't seem to notice(it comes back later). I think that what the Undertaker gave Ciel could have altered his memory or it is makeing him think his brother is still alive. I know that this has to do with something on how the Undertaker is linked to the Phantomhives, after all, we can't just brush thing off because Yana doesn't make coincidences all things that have been put in the manga are all there for the story. There was one thing that I found that really got me thinking, in the manga a carriage crashes to its side and Sebastian runs over to help knowing that it is Mrs. Diaz in the carriage. I was thinking why would he go to help her if it wouldn't benefit him, it was to far for Ciel to know what was happening, it did end up benefiting the Funtom company but why would Sebastian go help unless he knew where she was going?

[@izunanakiri2362]

I am still so mad just because we still don't know present Ciel's name Twins

[@Eckertainment]

I bloody hate the *actual* Ciel. He didn't earn a DAMN THING to come out of his revival coffin and presume to call himself head of the Phantomhives. Yes, our Ciel lied about his identity but he's struggled and pushed through so much shit. He's become stronger and OWNS the title of Earl. Birthright my ass...He's technically dead and our Ciel PROVED ALL THE NEIGH SAYERS WRONG in every which way. He EARNED that position and if you wanna get all technical, again, FIRST BORN IS TECH DEAD so our Ciel is rightfully head in every which way.

[@chokobum13]

if you are a fan, this theory is already exist and popular since YEARS. So we when Yana reveal it, we were like "Told ya!" While the rest of people dead shocked or omg can't even realize it. Oh and for reference we used term as OUR!Ciel and REAL!ciel

[@uzhmaa]

Yeah I was thinking the same. Kinda bugged me that he was referring to them wrong XD

[@Ari-vr4kp]

Does it matter? Because frankly all I see you guys doing is using this to make fun of people who haven’t or can’t read the manga. You are exactly the type of fan fangirls complain about.

[@Mooncrest0]

Some of us aren’t obsessed with an anime lol...

[@akechispancake]

Actually it was originally not the part of the storyline, and so ciel was the only child. But after the theory grew popular Yana decided to use it to attract more attention to the anime and manga. And to make the anime and manga better of course

[@ynsadb8266]

can i ask where the term "o!ciel and r!ciel" came from? i mean who or where those started? i just recently caught up on manga and couldn't get where the reference originated

[@himmel5909]

Now that I remember, there were details from the very beginning of the story in the manga. Yana Toboso really is a mastermind, she’s brilliant. You know how some stories have a distinct, unique tone and thus differ them from most stories? Kuroshitsuji is one of those.

[@Sky-de7oy]

I was extremely shocked when a second Ciel appeared, like this was such a plot twist, i didn't notice anything at all and just got s o confused sometimes. Now all i knew about our Ciel is like, wrong and i'm shook. And H O W is Ciel alive fffff Also all that happened to them, omg, that's also a hell of a shock. Yana has no mercy on us.

[@mayjune1135]

I just don't like how his brother "Ciel" just comes and steal everything. Like our Ciel worked hard for it, killed people, dirtied his hands, got burdened with guilt for sacrificing his brother and everyone he's killed like the innocent children during the circus arc. Then "Ciel" suddenly comes back and claims his hard work. I just don't get why "Ciel" would do that, during the flashbacks they used to be so close, like did Undertaker leave out some memories or told him false information? Because I doubt it's just for a 'sibling fight'

[@ahtaystamcauther9376]

He didn’t sacrifice his brother, the cult did and they summoned Sebastian. But He made a deal with our “Ciel”

[@genheleguerzon4629]

Ciel's life is so tragic. 😭💔

[@amechan8763]

Also idk if I’m right but when elizabeth was kiddnaped, the day after she was kiddnaped it was he’s birthday, after all that idk he’s name but the detector at that time he hade invistigated ciel, and he said something about he’s birthday being tomorrow, because after sebastian hade annouced that elizabeth was missing/kiddnaped he said he was tired and wanted to sleep hope I explained this right

[@DianaDxD]

I'm sorry but the fact that this is true is so mind blowing right now 😲😲😲😲

[@hydrangeyes2170]

Wait...Sebastian came from ciel's blood? *squints*

[@sethesteem]

Perfect day to upload. I needed this today and you've delivered.

[@liocine2374]

breadrcll Pfft- I saw this in my subscriptions while I was looking for something good to watch.

[@sethesteem]

Miss Alias oh wow, good for you.

[@DarthCruciare87]

Holy fuck, how the hell did I miss that scene with the Baron? Holy shit. It wasn't hinted, it was as subtle as a shotgun blast to the face. Wow. Yana Toboso is like if M. Night Shamalan was actually a good director and writer.

[@meredith2302]

him: there are spoilers me: watches anyway

[@captainvalourous6668]

After reading the Manga I was shocked to hear that the Ciel Twin Theory is actually true and at the same time it was sad because of their backstory I mean until know we still don't know who ruined their life on their 10th Birthday 😢

[@mysticalkeyblade759]

This was awesome! Also Ciel is nothing like his brother since he doesn’t act optimistic or cheerful. Also he won’t move on. He’s literally miserable rn

[@X23foreverhellion]

I'm a total dumbass when it comes to reading manga so I never really thought much about all the foreshadowing even though we saw that one scene where Sebastian and our Ciel Is standing in front of the graves.

[@ElvisLivesOn10]

I have not read the manga , but since I started watching your videos I am rewatching all of Black Butler to see everything I did not catch the first time. Thank you for your hard work on these for us.

[@allyyagami3552]

So past Ciel loves Elizabeth " Lizzy " not the present Ciel😂😂😂.. He stole his elder brother fiancé😂😂😂😂 ... Omg I'm so confused

[@starsong9711]

O!Ciel does care about Lizzy though, he just wasn’t the one who was supposed to marry her

[@starsong9711]

Xushi1sMissing she did until she found out that O!Ciel isn’t R!Ciel

[@starsong9711]

Xushi1sMissing it really is but you can’t really blame her

[@kodzukenlol]

Star Song wouldn’t that be weird tho ? She knew about the R!Ciel having a twin which was O!Ciel but wouldn’t she be confused since she never saw one of the other anymore ? Like she knew they were twins but seeing only one of them after all these years , she wouldn’t be suspicious on what happened to the other one ?

[@starsong9711]

bokekboke That is true, but I’m guessing she thought he died in the fire with their mom and dad and thought it’d be best not to ask cause of how close O!Ciel and R!Ciel were as young kids. I sensed some of her suspicion with a few scenes cause she questioned O!Ciel especially in BOA when she broke down for being one of “Those scary girls” that Ciel supposedly hates so much and O!Ciel has no idea. More then likely if she was suspicious she never had a good time to bring it up nor thought it would be a good idea cause of trauma.

[@julianaalika9790]

My friend and I think Ciel's real name is Noel. It sound a little like "noir", which means black in french. Also relate to santa claus' name, because he gives toys and ciel sells toys. Or he's name could be Claus. It starts with "C" like Ciel. I really want to know his real name...

[@akechispancake]

Juliana Alika possibly something with a c, since his grandmothers name was Claudia, and most family members names started it’s a Cl according to some episodes of the anime and chapters of the manga

[@nymfionne]

@@akechispancake C l a u d e !

[@mqh2411]

@@nymfionne LOL Oh god please no!

[@Hitakari]

And that theory about twin brother is actually true story!:) yes, we have dead Siel and young master which name hadn’t apeared.

[@gachajames5481]

Ciel

[@aryz_3355]

I've seen this one comment in a site. They said that ciel's real name would be later revealed in a grim reaper's notebook. It's such a good way to end the manga.

[@aryz_3355]

But if a grim reaper is collecting our ciel's soul that means something happened to sebastian, either way I don't really care, I want ciel to live a happy life.

[@amyt531]

this was mind-blowing and amazing to watch. nice job!