Sims 5 is dead. Now what? The Sims 4: 10 Years of Meh

[@LGR]

For those asking where I got the SimCity pillow: www.redbubble.com/i/throw-pillow/SimCity-1-No-logo-Sim-City-Zoom-HD-by-hangman3d/41402610.5X2YF

[@Nine-Signs]

is it a good idea to build a game on top of that crumbling foundation?!!! Bethesda: Of course.

[@ShotDownChoppa]

Where did you get that t-shirt?

[@Nine-Signs]

@@ShotDownChoppa why would you want that T-shirt? it's gone mouldy! 😂

[@matrixfull]

feels like instead of tackling the main issue they are walking all around it and focusing on everything else. ..the whole "going into new direction with 10 year old game" seems nothing but making "hype". that ai this is such a cheap way to get shareholders excited...thing is EA especially but also most of dev companies are legaly obligated to bring as much money to shareholders as they can and so it can never be product of love anymore. those times are gone. unless you have company without shareholders, that isn't publicly traded forget about it. also those oldd leadership managers ...they don't wanna take risks, they just wanna get free money and not really do any meaningful work. they just throw new words to make it look like they are doing something new meaningful while there is nothing truly new, just slightly refreshed pipeline of new dlc's and whatnot.

[@nftscreenshotter6436]

Sending good vibes and computery love your way in this difficult time.

[@NoahTheBroah.]

I can imagine EA eventually rebranding the game from "The Sims 4" to just "The Sims".

[@NeroVanLint]

exactly what i thought when i saw their investors day presentation

[@Photo0021]

Why haven't they???? I've been thinking this since 2017 lol.

[@jeyendeoso]

Just like Sim city?

[@JPacerox1]

They’re doing a similar thing with what would have been Skate 4

[@JazzyJeff910]

@@JPacerox1yup! Glad someone else noticed that. I have no hope for skate though. 2000s EA was God-Tier gaming.

[@tommo120]

I find it hilarious that EA is saying that they're going to keep Sims 4 running so players don't have to "start over again" or whatever, but then they'll quite happily re-release the same football game every year with minor changes and a different roster for full price + microtransactions... Really just boils down to minimizing the amount of work and maximising the profits.

[@jyppi]

And it is especially funny that "game as a service" would make a lot of sense with certain sports games.

[@Greybell]

they're panicking with all the new competitors releasing soon (inzoi and paralives). EA doesn't have any faith in Sims as a franchise because they know people are asking too much for a new base game, so they chose to milk TS4 until people finally vote with their money (there are too many sheep in the community and EA like that)

[@TheRedRaven_]

Will their NFL license ever expire? I haven't bought a sports title from EA in years ever since they added loot boxes and other gross money laundering schemes into their games.

[@seanlavoie2]

I was buying the argument, but that’s a really good point 🙂 . . . It would be terrible to stop support the old game though.

[@sujimayne]

And yet players (like you) keep asking devs to stop innovating, stop trying to do something new, stop changing mechanics, stop altering characters, etc.

[@phaylomersa9842]

I just wish EA would re-release The Sims 3 (remastered if you will) and made it so it’s 64 bit instead of 32. TS3 was so ambitious for its time, but now technology has caught up to the demand of that game. It would be amazing if we could play a better optimized version

[@maciaslewa]

Yeah…. Never gonna happen though as they wish to only sell latest game

[@Setupthemabomb]

EA? remaster a title? haha no thanks. Despite the shortcoming of TS3 being 32bit game, its the most stable since there is not many mod that adding complexity to simulation, but the CC, oh boy i've got tens of gig of TS3 CC loaded in my game and it plays just fine, my mod-laden sims 4 on the other hand, runs like hot garbage.

[@ThomasdWell]

@@Setupthemabomb I managed to back-up and save most of the mods I used when I first got in to SIms 3, lots of them are just gone simple because the creators or websites are gone now a days . I tried to load it all back up only to realize I spent 3 days to get everything to work only to lose any interest in playing. I've steered clear of Sims 4 for awhile till I heard it was free, but the amount of basic content is just laughable. As much as I'd like to see what a Sims 5 could offer, I suspect it would be less than what Sims 4 has anyhow

[@Setupthemabomb]

​ @ThomasdWell To be honest, part of the charm of sims 3 is browsing the CC, its like shopping furniture online. I've only play sims 4 every now and then, when my favorite mod updated (I'm not gonna tell you what mod but I think you know What Was it) I've got little hope left of the series, part of it just because I've grown up and playing digital family dollhouse while having real family is just not in my list anymore.

[@sea5063]

How would that work for those who have already got the game on dvds?

[@JurassicDavidy]

You took the words out of my mouth when you mentioned The Sims 2 having heart and soul. It's not just blind nostalgia, even today when I go back to that game it just makes me feel so immersed and happy.

[@traviscondren834]

It's the Sims 3 for me. Pick and choose your expansions carefully and it's still just as nightmarishly psychopathic as it used to be.

[@Cydeamon]

You know what's funny? In the past, developers who worked on the game played previous entries growing up. Now developers of Sims 4 potentially played Sims 4 growing up

[@LGR]

Sheesh. Yeah, a 22 year old developer would’ve been 12 when Sims 4 started!

[@Zeroes47]

@@LGRas a 22 year old, my first Sims game was The Sims 2 and I absolutely loved The Sims 3. Granted, I was a huge gamer since I was literally 3 lmao, but have some hope for us! We still remember!

[@OniBoy02]

@@Zeroes47 That's also my case, I started with the sims 2 for ps2, and eventually sims 3 pets for xbox 360, got to play sims 3 on pc with my friends old shitty laptop for a while and was quite fun, and remembered watching so many sims 3 videos as a kid. Sims 4 was the first pc Sims I owned, and while I did enjoy it, it couldn't keep my attention for long considering how hollow of an experience it was and continues to be.

[@flouserschird]

Oh, God…. Delete this

[@soufbayshawty]

@@Zeroes47Same here :) except my first game was 3. I found 2 after, but I grew up when 3 was releasing and in its prime :,)

[@mikaschumacher340]

honestly comparing your Sims 3 videos to your Sims 4 you can see the enthusiasm for the series slowly die out and be replaced with just boredom and almost a contempt. And like when they lose someone so dedicated to the series it’s a huge warning sign they’re ignoring.

[@Puribas]

I wish Sims was good again.

[@TheManudo00]

The sims 3 was imo such an ambitious game for the time,it started losing me on some of the DLCs but for the most part it was just such a great project and if it wasn't for the ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL LOADING TIMES I would play it even more than i already do,so was TS2(but I cant talk much since I only played the ps2 versions loved the co-op me and my best friend essentially married but not really because how would we explain to my religious mother THAT WE WERE NOT GAY xd), I don't like the direction the original sims went with the Expansions but the base game was such a great game to sink hours into i really wanted Life By You to be successful since they brought the director from TS3 but alas...paradox being paradox fumbled it, so now i gotta rely on paralives and insoy to save me from the absolute mediocrity that TS4 is

[@brigadier-tc8565]

Sometimes I go back to those old videos, just for that nostalgia hit. God, I remember just how excited we all were about Seasons back on Sims 3

[@Zkrizt]

The sims 3 was great, the sims 4 was a massive step back.

[@nozomi832]

I've always thought this. To be fair I remember his old sims 3 store purchases and how he was pissed off then and the enthusiasm since then has just reduced and reduced.

[@NopWorks]

I'm sure EA deliberately ignored Sims 4's 10 years anniversary precisely to avoid reminding people that they've been taking the whole franchise for a nosedive, as they plan to make this last longer than Sims 1, 2, and 3 combined.

[@user-fo1ow1jq3b]

My theory is they refuse to make a bundle with all the dlc content and if they were to do it, it would be now. BUT we all know that won't happen.

[@TomoEriGoto]

It has not been 10 years… …. My god. I’m glad I got out of the Sims sphere when I did.

[@RolosReviews]

Holy moly this comment blew my mind !

[@thesteelrodent1796]

@@user-fo1ow1jq3b of course they won't do that. They want you to pay for EA Play - at one point they even tried swapping the "buy" buttons for "Get EA Play" and buried the "buy" buttons because they want people to think the only way to get the content is with Play and that you can't get actually buy it like you used to. Luckily they got slapped with "misleading business practices" (at least in the EU) and had to make it more obvious how to buy their games

[@casioak1683]

You know what's even worse? The Sims 3 was better and EA never talk about it.. it's also still in its full price, never "on sale" discount

[@bluezilla2547]

Goddammit, really sorry to hear about the damage to your house following the hurricane. 😞 This will likely be the last LGR video for quite a while but at least you and your family are safe. Things can be replaced, homes rebuilt but still you're definitely one of the good ones out there and it just super sucks this happened, and so close to the holidays too. Take care dude and stay safe!

[@Theloveydream]

Context?

[@Ugotsomemilk]

Watch EA losing the entire Sims market to another upstart publisher/developer, like they did with sim city. I already see the first signs of this happening.

[@fefife01]

With both Paralives and inZOI coming out in the future, I also think this is very likely to happen. Players have been complaining about The Sims 4 for years and we will finally have other life simulators to replace it

[@CherryPixelBun]

TBH I wonder if that's why they're hesitant to move onto a new game. A lot of live service games can comfortably coast on success because they're in a space of large scale multiplayer games and unless you have a freak stroke of luck like Fortnite putting out a free Battle Royale mode to compete with PUBG the game will struggle and die off. The difference here and with SimCity is that Sims has been traditionally a singleplayer game, something that a competitor can much more easily provide. SimCity did have an online social aspect to it but it wasn't critical to the SimCity experience so City Skylines ended up eating its lunch. So I assume EA has opted to just keep the current gravy train rolling because they know it's successful.

[@jeanshortswag]

Nah with Life By You getting the plug pulled I don't forsee a decent competitor coming anytime soon. EA knows this and that's why they get away with this

[@GruntoSkunko]

@@CherryPixelBun "Live service" games should be illegal.

[@johnrivers3813]

I welcome it

[@cstick2664]

Sims 4: 10 years of meh Sims 2: 20 years of being awesome

[@ROCKNROLL947]

Sims 3: 15 years of being the best of the franchise

[@Martin.IncB51]

And with the site called Modthesims you can still get updated items for the Sims 2.

[@Mrchair905]

Sims 2 is goat.

[@Mrchair905]

@@ROCKNROLL947it’s good but definitely not the best, that’s 2.

[@briattnybrittany6843]

​@@ROCKNROLL947the sims 3 is my favorite. hands down ... but i won't lie, the sims 2 is to be appreciated. i didn't realize it until i got sick of the sims 4 lol the sims 2 is pretty incredible when you realize how much depth it has.

[@ned12ify]

The fact that the game launched without toddlers is baffling.

[@chance757]

@@ned12ify or even pools… like hello?

[@bluebosnian]

& ghosts i believe

[@sophie_drachen]

Also, build mode functions such as basements and half walls. I was reading a blog post of someone who played it when it first launched and they mentioned that it was riddled with glitches and the UI was absolutely hideous.

[@michellegore]

They were tryna sell us pools and toddlers but the outrage had them updating real quick

[@percinatto]

10 years later and we still don't have cars...

[@NONOOBZ4EVR]

I'm glad you and your family are safe. Really sorry to hear about the house and the collection.

[@Theloveydream]

Context?

[@carlakoala7415]

​@Theloveydream Perhaps he was hit by the hurricanes a few months back?

[@schemax]

"Resetting progress" is part of the fun. Starting fresh, especially if there is a whole new game to explore is one the best things about playing games.

[@bbkricks]

Yes 100%. And if they care so much about not making players start from ground zero, maybe they consider making basic things like seasons and family gameplay apart of the base game instead of parsing out every single thing for profit. Tbf it’s a such a load of bs that they’re doing this out of the players interest and not their own corporate greed

[@TheVonMatrices]

I do agree that it is a silly excuse because countless F2P games have developed their business models on having "seasons," which have regular game resets. However, I do think that game companies force themselves into a corner when they continue making expansions to an old game rather than developing a new one. They have the conundrum that they know the game is old and want to develop something completely new, but if they were to make a sequel, it would not have all the features of all the predecessor's expansions at launch, and that would result in negative reviews and sales problems. This happened to Cities:Skylines 2, and I think that launch had a chilling effect on sequels to games that have lots of expansions.

[@chance757]

what sucks is that most of these new sims players haven’t played the old games; they aren’t used to the QUALITY base games we got. they’re used to paying out of the nose for these bare minimum packs and honestly? i’d be upset too if the sims 4 was all i knew and i’d paid hundreds just to get a mediocre (at best) game. that being said, i don’t care. we still need sims 5, 4 is trash 😭😭

[@htsunmiku]

That's it! If there's any game genre that benefits from multiple instalments, it's life sim. Every new game built from the ground up incorporating tech advancements and whatever else the dev team learned in between instalments. I can't imagine what Going from Sims 1 to 2 was like back then. Imagine they just threw in the towel then and said the Sims 1 was peak Life sim 😭

[@chaoskind9012]

Also, as someone who does actually love to play with a family many generations down who would not like to lose their characters (unless it's to a new game): they need to make long-term gameplay fun and not experience game destroying bugs before they can argue like that

[@scincidae]

"Endless band-aids" sums up sims 4 pretty well tbh. They're just gonna keep adding to it and charging money until it collapses under its' own spaghetti code lmao.

[@squirlmy]

the horror is when you conceive that they can keep this up forever. I remember Sims 1 came out, or whatever it's called retroactively. Even the idea wasn't there, that a software title could keep going for ten years and even give the game away... perhaps there's no spaghetti code collapse, and it just keeps going as is, and your grandchildren get sucked into the ecosystem...the horror! the horror!

[@onlywithbuts1781]

"Sims 4 Ever " is absolutely genius and true.

[@Zack_Wester]

the problem whit the sims4 is that the sims4 engine is god avfull it was designed as a multiplayer game (some kind) but that was changed late in devlopment whit most of its online feature removed causing the sims4 to become who fully under cooked as a single player game. and now the sims4 have a incredible buggy mess cobbled together, just the fact that every time the sims add in an expansion whit appartment. sims4 city living the first one, then there was another one and that broke all apartments they fixed it and then a few expansion later a new world whit apartments and all apartments broke again presuming you did not play base game plus that one expansion.

[@theuberedredspy8791]

The Sims 4 actually has an in-game game your Sim can play called 'The Sims Forever', which has the potential to be hilarious foreshadowing, since the gameplay you can see on the computer is literally just The Sims 1 from what I remember lol

[@moustik31]

The way, we all hear that phrase like the THREAT it is! 😭

[@fonesrphunny7242]

​@@theuberedredspy8791 Reminds me of how many MMOs get bought, get a suffix like "forever" or "reloaded", and made worse to extract all the money from players.

[@NopWorks]

@@theuberedredspy8791 More hilarious when considering that Sims 4 regressed back to Sims 1 in some ways. No drivable cars. No custom worlds, lot sizes, and lot placements. Have to buy new packs just to get more building plots. Worst AI in the franchise despite marketing it as "smartest ever" - they even proudly named Sims 4 AI engine as "SmartSim" live on stage back then at Gamescom.

[@COOLFRIEND]

Sorry to hear about your home and community. Absolutely heartbreaking loss. Stay safe, friend. Brighter days will come.

[@Theloveydream]

Context?

[@AlexandriaTheSecond]

@@Theloveydreamya momma

[@SixArmedSweater]

Live service is a plague.

[@AD-Dom]

The masses need to revolt by not paying for this shit. Any subscription. Adobe, etc.

[@Brownaut1993]

Live service could've been cool. But it was born out of the intent to maximize profit for most of them. Very much a waste

[@D0NU75]

makes lootboxes look like a less grim future now.

[@MapleMan1984]

@@AD-Dom Good luck with that lmao, the masses are braindead.

[@ThatsPety]

To be fair, it can be done well e.g. valorant

[@crisperstorm]

Why does every franchise or series have to build off the weakest entry possible instead of making a solid foundation

[@MegGriffin.0]

Laziness and money making

[@FireTrainer92]

It's a 50/50 gamble

[@willthomas2310]

That's what happens when original devs that were passionate & ambitious, about the games they were making leave. Now they are replaced by greedy business people, & people that aren't passionate gamers at heart.

[@Labergemusic]

This is a big reason why I gave up trying to ever think I'm gonna play Crusader Kings 3. I already have too many DLCs from 2 and it was a solid game.

[@crisperstorm]

@@Labergemusic kinda why I gave up on Halo Infinite. Game launching with a major mode not working for months post launch was not a "platform for the next decade" lmao

[@Vix_Vi]

I honestly wasn't looking forward to Sims 5 because of how badly Sims 4 burned me, but hearing Sims 5 isn't happening is still upsetting. Especially with their bs "We don't want you to start over

[@guguy00]

the only good whims in this game are wicked, and those are mods lol

[@jdevlin1910]

Right? Look at the Crusader Kings series. II had numerous paid DLC and expansion packs so what did threy do with 3? Incorporate all of them into the base game (or pretty close anyway) and come up with NEW ideas for expansions for the new title. Amazing huh!

[@Greybell]

not just fill the void, but replace The Sims like Cities Skylines did with SimCity

[@FortressLordJP193]

This is the opposite of what I wanted, the engine feels like a mobile game with a graphical remaster (in fact there's a popular rumor it started life as a free-to-play MMO type thing, I could see it, it looks the part). Plus long loading screens, really small maps with not many lots, very undynamic Sim drama, no seamless lot travel, stuff like that, which all lead me to hope it was the *shortest* active Sims game and then a good Sims 5. No - the opposite happened. This news feels like if the ultimate version of Windows was the touchscreen obsessed phase of Windows 8. (Oh and side note starting a new game is basically essential because there's so few families and they have a known problem of stagnation and dying off.)

[@gdragonismygod]

inzoi is pretty shady with their ai usage. gonna skip on it

[@lingling2924]

Went here after Jeff's Video. Thank you and stay safe

[@blitzwing1985]

EA "we dont want you to restart" also EA when it comes to sports games "Oh it's been almost 12 months? here's the new F1, NFL, not-Fifa etc etc etc"

[@ayasekaru]

Calling it now: They're going to make it a subscription service. All that company speech sounds to me like it's headed towards that.

[@LGR]

I would not be at all surprised.

[@Telhias]

Like what Paradox did with CK2. F2P + subscription to be able to play with all the goodies. Sadly for them it may not work so well. The problem with subscription model is the fact that you don't have the sunken cost fallacy at play. It is very easy to stop the subscription once a new shiny game comes out that fills the niche. On the other hand if you paid $1000+ for the game then you will play it to justify the amount of the money you have already spent on it.

[@MrWolfSnack]

COMING 2025: SIMSNITE LIVE.

[@kjulo88]

It practically already is. All the content costs more than a thousand dollars, but if you pay monthly for EA play you get access... as long as you keep paying of course. Keep in mind how unsubscribing will then practically break all your sims 4 saves and families. What a deal!

[@DezsikeDevil1]

They already did that 2 decades ago with The Sims Online and failed. Would they make the same mistake?

[@jackaryyy]

The palette in Sims 3 was the best feature they didnt bring back. "Cool fridge, I just wish the metal trim was brass not chrome" You can just do that

[@DaftBoy06]

You mean "Cool fridge, I just wish the metal trim was made of pink and green sponge" :p

[@rodh1404]

For me, it was the open world. I get why that might have had issues, but at least they could have done open neighbourhoods. And cut down on the rabbit holes. I hate having so many rabbit holes.

[@MelRay373]

Open world + the palette were top tier!!

[@shelby2117]

Removing create-a-style from the game was one of the biggest mistakes. It made the Sims 4 completely unplayable for me from day 1, I didn't even make it past creating a Sim because that feature is so integral to my enjoyment of the game.

[@eirinym]

But if you have a feature like that in the Sims 4... they can't sell you a content pack once a month 😢

[@capitalj1987]

Sorry to hear about your home wishing you the best bud

[@Theloveydream]

Context?

[@meinalteregon]

Not me thinking "Alright, this game sucks, I'll just sit this one out and wait for the next one" 10 YEARS AGO NOW.... It just feels like such a slap in the face. But honestly I can't even blame EA, I just don't understand how so many people invest soooo much money in this meh game.

[@JulyssaRamirez]

I think of it as Stockholm syndrome and curiosity. I expected greatness when TS4 came out. Hated it but eventually learned to somewhat enjoy it. I am a victim

[@101Volts]

Any chance they invest in it *BECAUSE* of mediocrity? To try and make it better while not making it better and still sticking out for a promise that never comes? ... Though granted that when I played the first game around 2000 - 2003, I invested much time in it. But I was spending time on fan sites downloading stuff for free. I'm not sure I'd have spent much on it if I could have.

[@l-pv5793]

I’m glad I didn’t wait and have my collection complete because what’s coming next it’s even worse

[@Bridenbrad]

im a console gamer, and "lack of alternatives" is probably my number one answer to that lol.

[@goodguyguan3412]

The mass majority of the Sims fanbase don't play games at all, they literally only play the Sims and are content just buying every piece of the expensive dlc whenever they can. They don't have a console, they don't have a gaming PC, but they do have a laptop or a POS home desktop with just enough storage and ram to run only...the Sims. That's the fanbase this game has.

[@DanVasc]

Man.. I just want The Sims 1 on gog

[@LGR]

Hear hear!

[@GalaxyStandard77]

I want Sims 3 remastered

[@alioth2021]

Until then, it's on myabandonware 😉

[@Paulo-c3n]

Yarr

[@MaggieD0123]

Holy crap, Dan Vasc on LGR! Hail Dan!

[@azraelle6232]

EA has always been like this. I worked for Maxis when they bought it. They're all about the money and don't care about the creative side. When any game company gets too big, they stop being artists that create something and become managers that penny-pinch in order to please the shareholders.

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

Capitalism

[@jr2904]

​@@ZdrmonsterProductions 🙄 you wouldn't have games at all without capitalism

[@dead_channel_zero]

@@jr2904 prove it

[@The_Keeper]

@@jr2904 Tell that to Tetris. Made in the USSR. By Commies, for Commies. It did fairly well, I'd say.

[@Hungarycloud]

​@@jr2904 tell that to the modding community and ROM hackers lol Plenty of people making contributions without financial incentives

[@pedroclg]

Keep Going! A small contribution.

[@MrGrumblier]

"We don't want to have our customers start over." Translation: Developing a new game is too expensive and we would rather emulate Boeing and just continue squeezing profits out of minimal development.

[@CatMuto]

Welp, time for one of their doors to get ripped off mid-flight, then.

[@MrGrumblier]

@@CatMuto I think that already happened.

[@ladyhella7560]

It's funny when they say that and then break the fucking game every new expansion, making people lose all their progress anyway

[@tankerd1847]

I wouldn't try and compare Boeing's problems to EA lol. Boeing's issues tie back to a lax quality culture more than anything. This is way apples and oranges.

[@jougjimmadome]

@@tankerd1847 eh, from someone with a lot of close family in Boeing, i think it all boils down to the same thing: profit over quality. to make it in the company, you have to drink the capitalism koolaid to the point that you genuinely believe all the valid criticism is a smear campaign. the main difference from EA is the lives at risk. (and completely unrelated, hearing "lax" in context of boeing at all makes me laugh just bc of how strict and safety-oriented the employees I know are lol.)

[@IceDragon064]

That footage of the couch being customized fills me with such longing for what could have been. Sims 3 gave us an open world and custom colours and that's what I wanted to see return for Sims 5.

[@LGR]

Hoping Project Rene will maintain that level of detail, whatever it ends up being!

[@SevCaswell]

@@LGR It looks and feels like the Creation Kit but for The Sims.

[@AilaK_]

@@LGR a mobile game 🙃

[@cwb1400]

It’s so disappointing 😢

[@MissTheTommy]

what I enjoy is hearing a mature, old school voice in the community. I feel like The Sims 4 became very much a kids game and most content creators just kind of got used to it, while you keep showing it in the context of the whole series and how much it sucks relative to everything we had previously. Personally I don't understand why they aren't remaking the previous entrys, it seems like such an easy moneymaker for them. Thank you for still making enterntaining videos on this sad entry to a great franchise for so long

[@Marziilla]

This. The sims DID rebrand to a younger audience and it’s like they shafted all the older players

[@AlexP-dz7ew]

They don’t even need to really remake them. All they have to do is port the games to be easily accessible on modern hardware. If they can sell the old Fallout games on steam, there’s 0 reason they can’t sell Sims 1 and 2 as complete editions on digital storefronts

[@subjectt.change6599]

There’s an awful lot of sex shit in this kids game…

[@icchorist]

@@AlexP-dz7ew this. Im pretty sure sims 1 and 2 are considered abandonware

[@KasumiRINA]

@@AlexP-dz7ew well one thing they removed from old Fallout editions apart from original US release is children, as you can machinegun them to bits, patches restore them but out of the box, legit better to run actual old CD versions. OH, but that's the thing, Fallout RUNS OUT OF THE BOX, I installed 1 on Win11 laptop, perfect, only needs fan patch for widescreen support and higher resolutions but it's perfectly playable without it. Soooooo re-releasing Fallouts is probably the cheapest possible ports because of how well they work without ANY updates. Other games are not so lucky, you can run directx patch for Wine3D for Infinity Engine games but Enhanced Editions took way more effort (and added a lot too). Sims PROBABLY will need more tweaking to combine old game +all expansions without any issues, but hey, they can do it just easier to sell endless expansions of 4.

[@philipmumford7871]

Hope you can rebuild after the storm and get back to content creation asap!

[@joshuasherman7335]

You know, ten years ago I felt petty for refusing to play the Sims 4 since they reduced the scope of the game so much after 3's open towns. I told myself I'd just wait for the Sims 5 before getting back into the series. I have never felt so justified/frustrated at the same time before as once this news hit.

[@GloriousSwordHorse]

sims 3 was the best one. Sims 4 was a regression.

[@DizzyBusy]

I was like you. Then Sims 4 became free, so I thought I'd give it a try, and I got bored after two days, and went back to my legacy neighbourhood in Sims 3. Now it has become clear to me, I will continue playing Sims 3 and probably never buy anymore of EA Sims product. That's it.

[@motherurck7542]

​@DizzyBusy are there any mods that make Sims 3 run better on modern systems?

[@ekmad]

I did the exact same thing. I even kept up with all the expansion packs just hoping there would be an excuse for me to finally get Sims 4. It never happened.

[@DizzyBusy]

@@motherurck7542 I personally use: - Nraas MasterController - Nraas Overwatch - Nraas ErrorTrap - Simler90's Core Mod Others have good results using Lazy Duchess Smooth Patch and/or AwesomeMod. Plus Nraas StoryProgression. You have to experiment a bit to find the combination that works for you.

[@FranciscoFJM]

The myth of infinite growth is killing each and every single thing we enjoyed as kids. One of these days the bubble WILL burst, but that means we all lose.

[@XError40404]

Billionaires will always find a way to win, even if the market crashes

[@No-tw6qj]

@@XError40404 They always do, as the poor and middle class are forced to sell off what very little assets they have, guess who buys them up for cheap?

[@GruntoSkunko]

Capitalism must go.

[@malcontender6319]

@@GruntoSkunko What are you suggesting we replace it with, huh co.mmie?

[@bokunogentoo4420]

considering all the recent AAA flops, I think that time might come before the end of this decade

[@LavenderRebellin]

Y'know when I saw that Sims could play a game "Sims Forever" in the Sims 4. I chuckled. Who would've thought it was an omen for the future of the Sims 4?

[@LGR]

Ha!

[@Kakashi_senpai-wl2ub]

I just saw J-tech95 video. Terribly sorry to hear about your home being severely damaged in the hurricane. I'm glad you and your family are alright! That is indeed the most important thing. Still though I also hope that your collection can be still salvageable as well. Sending you lots of prayers. Please take care Clint! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@cutejustice]

RIGHT! The whole “want to keep your save file” nonsense is BULL because in the sims especially, we’re all used to creating new families whether it’s because we’re bored of the current ones or sometimes mods break it. It’s all part of the sandbox experience. They were just looking for reasons to keep milking this sad entry. Thank goodness for INZOI and Paralives 🙄

[@LGR]

inZOI and Paralives truly are the distant light at the end of the tunnel at this point. Neither are guarantees, but even a glimpse of light after years of darkness is exhilarating.

[@OnionChoppingNinja]

Speak for yourself buddy. In Sims 2 I've been tending for a neighborhood for 10 years now. Rarely do I make new households. Most sims alive after 12+ generations are either decendents of those few households I made over the years or from adopted townies. Mods have come and gone but the neighborhood stil survives.

[@Ezullof]

@@OnionChoppingNinja I mean, you're still playing the Sims 2 as you said. EA isn't targeting this kind of playerbase. I don't know if people do the same thing in the sims 4.

[@StummerVogel]

​@@OnionChoppingNinjaYeah, and where did Sims 2 go? Exactly! You're making an excellent point for why EA's argument is bs. Nobody is losing their progress, they can always keep playing the old games even when there are new releases.

[@ViolentMLG]

I don't think they wanted to do this. Similar to the way they didn't want to release TS4 the way they did. I think they INTENDED to milk TS4 for many more years, got caught with their pants down with tons of competitors. At that point they're barely into production against these games dropping in 2025. So do they A, release something in 2028(or beyond) as they should, after watching their position dwindle, or, should they reuse assets, code, etc, to make a new project, then claim the asset re-usage is "better for the players because they get to keep their stuff" and try to sell that. If they can do this, and launch by 2025, they likely think they won't lose their position. This is clearly some EA exec trying to twist an L (taking a loss on position), and trying to screw players over (asset re-usage) as a W (players will get to keep their stuff and their saves!). What's ironic is that I highly suspect they won't release anything worth playing by 2025. Despite the hate, I genuinely used to think TS5 would kill any competitor, but I guess EA's incompetence literally is insurmountable.

[@StuartLugsden]

Hundreds of packs split off the base game and expansions over the course of 10 years, “We don’t want players to start all over again after 10 years of gameplay.” Nobody at EA knows how games work.

[@DumbArse]

I always played a family for like a week before starting a new one. Playing a fam for even a month let alone years seems impossible to me

[@Matt92Machine]

Yeah, it's not like people couldn't keep playing Sims 4 when the new game comes out. They are acting like Sims 4 will just stop working as soon as Sims 5 comes out.

[@StuartLugsden]

@@Matt92Machine Games evolve, we adapt, just like in real life. All this stuff should have been around since the start or in the 4-5-6 year gap.

[@RiverTheOneandOnly]

​@Matt92Machine to be fair that's what happened to the sims 3

[@Matt92Machine]

​@@RiverTheOneandOnly And the Sims 2, Sims 1, etc. When the new Sims games come out, the previous game always had more content.

[@existenz_1]

Now we're forever stuck with no open worlds, crappy wants, emotions system, tiny worlds, and likely no create a world tool. A new game could have solved these issues, but oh no, Sims 4 fans will have to restart, so sucks to be you if you want a better base game

[@user-73a]

The Sims 3 was the truly most redefining entry to the series that came out when I was in high-school, it will never be surpassed!

[@kopijaws]

stay safe!

[@escritora84]

Poor Ralph. He would've been dead 50 times over at this point. EA is trying to pull a Rockstar/Bethesda approach to the Sims 4, but it should've been phased out about 3 or so years ago, especially during the pandemic. Live service was a mistake. I started watching your channel in the early-Sims 3 expansion pack cycle, and your reviews have saved me so much money over the years. Thank you so much for everything you've done for us.

[@DarthGardens]

“We released an unfinished game at full price in 2014 and have been tricking you into paying us to finish it for ten years, but now our investors are worried that if we make a new game, it won’t break even within the first month of release so we’re just going to keep tricking you.”

[@WowTeh]

and their feet-licking fans keep eating the slop dlc that they release every single time, dlc that break each other and brings bugs that will never be fixed

[@Isaacfess]

It's really sad what the series has become. Clint, thank you for all of your awesome videos on the Sims games over the years. Those expansion pack reviews are so re-watchable. They still hold up great!

[@RepzeyOfficial]

Thanks to everyone being suckerd into all the "Microtransactions". EA see that Fortnite and CS:GO makes millions of dollars on "Microtransactions" and they glance over to the Sims 4 and and idea came to them...oh! We make the game "Free" to play and pump it full of Microtransactions and we to will make millions of dollars... I HATE MICROTRANSACTIONS! IT HAS DESTROYED GAMING AS WE KNEW AND LOVED....

[@lilipad5514]

I agree. I used to watch them when I was a kid and deciding whether or not to get expansion packs. Sometimes I go back just for nostalgia!

[@xAlyGatorx]

This! The reviews playlist is such a comfort watch for me when I need something chill to work to. :')

[@Modi718]

Thinking about you and your town brother. Love from Richmond VA. Hope you guys recovery well and quick.

[@KassRedFox]

I wish EA would drop the pretense of this being an act of good faith. Just say "The Sims 4 is making arab oil money. We have no reason to make a Sims 5 and splinter our fanbase". Instead they talk about it like the game is an MMO and they're worried about people losing progress. Brother, making a new family and exploring things from the start is one of the most fun part of the game!

[@arielc8584]

The progress they are talking about is filling up all those bubbles that indicate which dlcs you have. They don't want people to restart because then they will have to go through the effort of getting people addicted to buying every dlc again, and there's a risk after they take everything away that some people might not get reinvested. And it might take doing some actual work to get them hooked again.

[@htsunmiku]

@@arielc8584 Yep. they are very lazy now. Getting people to move on was easier with previous games. While they /did/ make packs to entice people (like using "sims 3 World Adventures" playing into the open world). they didn't need to sell as hard, since the graphical/technical upgrades were so big, ppl moved on automatically. To get people to move on now, they'd need to features most people will lament losing (weather, apartments, basic parenting etc ) a part of the new base game. And put more effort into making truly interesting expansions. But they want a forever game, where they can splinter everything up.

[@zabi_aka]

​@@arielc8584 yeah by teh time the hypothetical sims 5 would've been out people would get a taste of other games like inzoi and paralives and even if those games aren't great it would probably leave the fanbase wanting more. and with the tendency of EA to dilute every part of the game to be able to sell more packs while not ensuring their quality and depth (and general fanbase's frustration based on 10 years of experience) not a lot of the fans will invest hundreds of dollars in the totally new instalment.

[@Zoroasterisk]

I don't think they care about splitting the fan base at all. The simple cost/benefit analysis is that it doesn't make sense (in their purely capitalist pilled brains) for them to spend resources expanding the scope of the gameplay, when those same devs could be churning out infinite content packs that are basically pure profit. If anything, I see them signaling that they are looking at moving more towards the Roblox model, where players make content that they can sell to other players. I'm assuming they're thinking that they can justify any hit caused by potential gap in quality by lowered overhead, but this is all speculation. Also, it's worth noting that EA is the company that squirts out a new, barely changed Madden/FIFA every year. I don't think there's anyone at EA in a position to approve new projects that cares about anything other than what's most profitable

[@Wishfulthinking-vp6tz]

@@KassRedFox ummm Americans pay for it to dim wit

[@leoisyes]

Honestly I feel like if EA just remastered Sims 3 with optimisation for newer computers (mainly using its resources properly) everyone would be happy ☠️

[@HOTD108_]

But happy players are more likely to be satisfied with what they have, and a satisfied player is less likely to seek more content that EA is selling. Game companies figured this out a few generations ago, and they are ride or die with it now.

[@meowmocha12]

Yeah. I love playing Sims 3, but wish it ran better. It's prone to lag and glitchiness, too, even if you do a ton of stuff to optimize it and run it on a fancy gaming PC.

[@Ikwigsjoyful]

@@HOTD108_What they really want are players who are happy, but slightly unsatisfied: “I love this game. It is almost perfect If it just had ‘blah, blah, blah . . .’” And then the next dlc has “blah, blah, blah.” And the player buys it and is even happier. What they don’t - or shouldn’t - want is players who are both unhappy and unsatisfied, because those players are only staying until something better comes along. The “keep up unhappy, but make new stuff look better than it is so that they keep buying and chasing that promise of happiness” model completely destroys brand loyalty. And once loyal fans jump ship good luck convincing them to come back with any amount of shiny new stuff. Rebuilding trust and loyalty is a lot harder than gaining it in the first place.

[@sophie_drachen]

I'd love there to be a remastered version of The Sims 3, perhaps optimised for my knackered old Asus laptop. Just to play it for old times sake, as it was my first PC Sims game. There seemed to be a lot more heart put into The Sims 3, I suppose Maxis were still involved at that point or people on the programming team that were fans of the original games. The DLCs/expansions in that game felt like optional improvements to the game, it was fun without them. Whereas with The Sims 4, you kind of need DLC to really immerse yourself in the game, what also annoys me about it is how buggy and laggy it is. I've had Sims getting stuck on each other in the same room and also, you have to babysit an adult Sim in the game and make sure that they don't blow up like a volcano over trivial things, keeping them emotionally regulated when their moods get changed at the drop of a hat.

[@BlckSWANWhtRbbt]

I think The Sims 2 was more popular. I do think a remastered version of that and the original would sell today.

[@rednwhitecooper]

Gaming is in such a weird fucking spot in 2024. I have never in my life had so little excitement about things. I wasn’t alive for the gaming crash of 1983 but it feels like we’re due for another catastrophe, but for different reasons this time. There are no more generational leaps. Everything is expensive. Everything is a subscription. Everything is pay to win. Nothing feels new.

[@LGR]

Agreed on all counts. I don’t think I’ve been interested in so few new games in my life (indies being the exception)

[@MrWolfSnack]

It's because game companies who have no desire to innovate are being rewarded by ignorant phone millennials who have no care about gaming. They were raised on phone app Chinese garbage and that's what they expect. They just take one game and then play that game for 20+ years and just buy every little $100 DLC pack over and over and over again. Wash rinse repeat. Then you have where we are now. You get 1 game for 1/4 of your lifespan and you just pump money into it like a gas station.

[@V3ryan]

The last “game” I was excited for in recent history was Fallout London, and that’s a third party mod, not even a for profit official Bethesda title.

[@zacharygustafson8714]

@@LGR I got off keeping up with the latest stuff around the Xbox One era, and I can say that I am VERY happy I did so right now.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

​@V3ryan To be fair, it is very good.

[@iamnotanuggetblackhart5103]

Just heard the news.I'm so sorry about the loss you went through in that hurricane.

[@sharpenednoodles]

Also my 2 cents as a software engineer. The age of the engine isn't the issue. As long as you've got people that understand how the engine works in its current state, you can expand upon it in ways that it was never originally designed for, to a point. The main issue that I'm getting from every new patch, is that they do not have adequate testing practices in place. Whether we're talking automated unit testing, integration testing etc, or even the QA team as a whole. I do not trust a team to rewrite or modify core components of the engine when they have proven time and time again they're unable to deliver basic content updates without breaking existing functionality. Edit: changed "an issue" to "the issue". Old software does eventually need to be replaced!

[@DeinonychusCowboy]

I am also a software engineer. The age of a platform is absolutely an issue lol, not only do new underlying technologies with more and better features become available over time, but compatibility with other integrated systems -- in the case of games, operating systems and hardware support are a huge one -- becomes an increasing issue the older a platform is. Not planning to rebuild, replace, migrate, is planning to have future infrastructure issues.

[@sharpenednoodles]

@@DeinonychusCowboy but not in this case, it's a 10+ year old 64 bit engine. The main limitations are its design roots in the MMO space. Its age of this codebase isn't the issue. I say this as someone who works daily on a 30+ year old C++ codebase. The limitations we've encountered are predominantly due to previous poor design decisions, which can, and have been fixed with extreme willpower and skill. Given modern abstraction layers (which we unfortunately don't have the privilege of working with) compatibility for this engine should be trivial. Blaming the age of the engine for the issues with the Sims 4 is a cop out. If there really are major issues that cannot be fixed without a complete rewrite (and that could be the case given the state of the game) then that is almost entirely related to poor design decisions within the core of the engine, not the age of the game.

[@croozerdog]

i doubt many devs there truly know how the engine works

[@generallyunimportant]

@@sharpenednoodles the biggest issue with the engine (imo) is using python for scripting. not even a fork of cpython or a minimal reimplementation, just regular cpython as a dll though from looking at the game's directory for more than 5 seconds and analyzing a few things in a hex editor, it seems that they're using cython(python interpreted to c code and compiled into a native binary) for the Simulation_x64.dll library, since i've found multiple strings that look like python comment blocks in this dll, at around offset(address? whatever these are called lmao) e1ffe0 i also found some strings seemingly related to protobuf? i should probably look at their equivalent of "third-party software usage acknowledgements" or whatever those are called, it'll probably clear up my confusions lol wait did i void my license since this technically could be ruled as reverse-engineering lol

[@owlproblem7230]

As a professional software tester I wholeheartedly agree. It seems like management doesn't value testing at slightest

[@NotOnLand]

Me with my 15 Gb Sims 2 folder is unimpressed with 4 overall. The only good thing to come from that was the adventures of Jim Pickens.

[@melz6625]

I also went back to my Sims2. My husband got a cracked version so I could play without a disk drive. Got some visual and optimization mods and I was GOLDEN. Until I stopped playing for a few months and when I went back had to realize it all was GONE. The entire neighborhood was like it was never touched. I was so shook, haven’t been able to go back yet. Any idea what it might’ve caused?

[@williamepps9519]

Oh Jim Pickens.... Our Overlord

[@magick_movies]

turg understand this reference. Hail Pickens, the dear leader!

[@oudeis94]

​@@melz6625 Sims 2 has issues with save game corruption, and sometimes this includes neighbourhoods disappearing. Google "avoiding corruption" for more information on how to prevent it. (And install the various stability fixes available)

[@davidgm7042]

⁠more like bore ragnarok.

[@antoniastfu]

Welp , that’s all folks I’ve been playing The Sims since I was a teen , I’m 41 now. What a heartbreaking “ending”.

[@harvyt257]

Mods will fix it

[@PutYourQuarterUpGaming]

Old games always there for you

[@weskershades]

It's sad isn't it. 30 here and grew up playing the Sims. I haven't played TS4 in a long time. First time in the Sims history that I've been demotivated to pick up the game.

[@TilskKarishma]

I almost as old as you and I feel you T.T

[@azarazar007]

Time to say goodbye to Sims series, there's always Paralives and Inzoi

[@MysticVee]

Hey there Clint. Just saw the post on twitter and wanted to extend my condolences about what's happened due to the Hurricane. I hope all is well and that you're safe, man. Been a fan for years, watching the show, its almost like seeing the cool classic computer nerd cousin everyone would tell you "knows EVERYTHING" that would bring out some old tech and show off the weirdness of it, but always hold a soft spot for classics, like Duke Nukem, Half Life, or something silly like Worms 2. Lots of us I'm sure considering you family in some weird way, and wish you the best during this tough time. Stay Blerbin', and come back to us when you feel like you can. We'll be waitin'.

[@davesantleman8948]

I've been playing the Sims since they first released on 2001. Grew up with them, experienced every new generation that came. I was VERY hesitant to switch to The Sims 4 when it first came out because it was hard for me to go back to loading screens, but I finally gave in and have been playing The Sims 4 for about 7 years now. I have every expansion, stuff and kit there is and, honestly, as of last week I just completely gave up, uninstalled the game (and the +50GB of mods I had) and went back to The Sims 3. And, for the first time in like 7 years, I am having the time of my life playing in Roaring Heights. Wasn't until now I noticed I spent most of my time in The Sims 4 building instead of live mode anymore because THERE IS NO exciting gameplay to experience. Now that I'm back on Sims 3 I am noticing all those details you mentioned about Sims 2 & 3 and MADE the game what we loved instead of the souless piece of garbabe the Sims 4 is becoming.

[@luciapereira3763]

I also have the sims 4 and some expansions, never really played for long, got bored quickly! Now the sims 3! I can play for hours and hours 😊

[@nessamillikan6247]

I feel you. I've been playing The Sims since TS2 came out and immediately fell in love with it. I rejected playing TS4 until 2022 because I hated the cartoony statue style, stupid walkstyles, limited neighborhood and content, but I eventually fell into it just because of the incredible creations I'd seen the modding community do in 8 years. A colossal game changer for me was TwistedMexi's T.O.O.L., which allows you to move objects almost anywhere, helping you use of the metric TON of unused space in the world beyond the few lots we're given. He's absolutely doing God's work to make it feel like a modicum of what The Sims 3 used to be. Without modders like him creating new experiences, along with Lumpinou, and Turbodriver, and modders like Deaderpool, Weerbesu and LittleMsSam creating mods allowing us to circumvent/fix all of the broken parts, I would NOT keep playing this game. I never would have started in the first place. EA owes dangnear heir whole existence to the modding community.

[@nessamillikan6247]

I feel you. I've been playing The Sims since TS2 came out and immediately fell in love with it. I rejected playing TS4 until 2022 because I hated the cartoony statue style, stupid walkstyles, limited neighborhood and content, but I eventually fell into it just because of the incredible creations I'd seen the modding community do in 8 years. A colossal game changer for me was TwistedMexi's T.O.O.L., which allows you to move objects almost anywhere, helping you use of the metric TON of unused space in the world beyond the few lots we're given. He's absolutely doing God's work to make it feel like a modicum of what The Sims 3 used to be. Without modders like him creating new experiences, along with Lumpinou, and Turbodriver, and modders like Deaderpool, Weerbesu and LittleMsSam creating mods allowing us to circumvent/fix all of the broken parts, I would NOT keep playing this game. I never would have started in the first place. EA owes dangnear heir whole existence to the modding community.

[@nessamillikan6247]

I feel you. I've been playing The Sims since TS2 came out and immediately fell in love with it. I rejected playing TS4 until 2022 because of the cartoony statue style, silly walkstyles, limited neighborhood and content, but I eventually fell into it just because of the incredible creations I'd seen the modding community do in 8 years. A colossal game changer for me was TwistedMexi's T.O.O.L., which allows you to move objects almost anywhere, helping you use of the metric ton of unused space in the world beyond the few lots we're given. He's absolutely doing the lord's work to make it feel like a modicum of what The Sims 3 used to be. Without modders like him creating new experiences, along with Lumpinou, and Turbodriver, and modders like Deaderpool, Weerbesu and LittleMsSam creating mods allowing us to circumvent/fix all of the broken parts, I would NOT keep playing this game. I never would have started in the first place. EA owes dangnear heir whole existence to the modding community.

[@nessamillikan6247]

I feel you. I've been playing The Sims since TS2 came out and immediately fell in love with it. I rejected playing TS4 until 2022 because of the cartoony statue style and walkstyles, and limited neighborhood and content, but I eventually fell into it just because of the incredible creations I'd seen the modding community do in 8 years. A colossal game changer for me was TwistedMexi's T.O.O.L., which allows you to move objects almost anywhere, helping you use of the metric ton of unused space in the world beyond the few lots we're given. He's absolutely doing the lord's work to make it feel like a modicum of what The Sims 3 used to be. Without modders like him creating new experiences, along with Lumpinou, and Turbodriver, and modders like Deaderpool, Weerbesu and LittleMsSam creating mods allowing us to circumvent/fix all of the broken parts, I would NOT keep playing this game. I never would have started in the first place. EA owes dangnear heir whole existence to the modding community.

[@tyrap6949]

While EA is 99% to blame for this I can't help but think the fans (not all of them, but there's definitely a few of them) need to stop buying their crap. People will complain but still buy the crappy product....

[@everest7719]

Completely agree. It blows my mind that people actually still purchase new packs. I thought kits would die before they were even released, but that's clearly not the case. As long as people are willing to settle, we won't get anything worth having

[@animagoldsmith1970]

@@everest7719 I know someone who literally buy all Sims 4 packs and complain about the price and how quickly boring it become. Yet when presented with better options and trying to have a conversation about Sims in general ( lore etc. ) is just avoiding all of it or even better bring up that every games are expensive and it's like that nowadays. well guess what no one breaking your arm to do it.

[@KoboldPip]

No it's 50/50 blame - EA wouldn't be doing this if that fans weren't suckling at their teets for every drop of content with their wallets open.. EA spend a lot of salaries and time on creating this stuff, and it's only possible because the fans buy it that's why they make more. If the fans weren't so braindead there'd of been a Sims 5 about 3 years ago. They mas as well rebrand the series to the Simps 4 in honour of it's playerbase.

[@odizm5196]

it this is why the term " VOTE WITH YOU WALLEIT " is so dumb despite all the rage some People give about the product.... only to hate Buy out of spite. and there are the loyalist that will buy the game no mater what and the People that don't care about that its a shady corps and bad tactics . for ever 50% - 80% that say NO!!!! there will be 90% - 120% that will say YES

[@Babykicker95]

I'd bet that the people you're talking about are not in these comments and watching this channel. They're probably buying the packs and enjoying the game lol

[@Dawwwg]

'The Sims 4. 10 years of meh, bleh. ' You could have ended it right there 😂

[@IntegerOfDoom]

That kinda describes the entire industry eh?

[@Dawwwg]

@@IntegerOfDoom Unfortunately, yes, about 90% I'd say ...

[@Psychicpebblesstan]

I wish it was 2013 again and I was watching one of your sims 3 EP reviews while deciding which one to ask for as a Christmas gift 😭

[@S3SSioN_Solaris]

😢

[@BearfootBob]

2020’s are ass

[@chavelah]

me too.

[@user-73a]

I wish it was 2010 and I was still playing The Sims 3 for the first time tbh

[@relaxation-Corner]

Those were the days. I got nostalgia just thinking about it

[@TheTribe1527]

Hot take: they will release a new sims game at some point in the next few years, but they realised saying a new game is coming soon was wrecking their expansion pack sales as people wait for the new game, so they backpedaled.

[@randomgreatness2298]

This is a cope take to be honest with you

[@anonymouschicken20]

I wish that were true but tbh, I doubt they'd actually care that much to let us be fooled. They'll obviously make a new sims game, it's just not as soon as we want it to be. I am sure it will be in another five years when they announce that. We'll be celebrating 20 years of Sims 4 before Sims 5 gets launched lol.

[@MrGrumblier]

Project Rene is The Sims Online 2. It is completely designed around online play. No build mode - just a decorating mode. It will be multi-platform as basic as possible with excessive amounts of "in your face" microtransactions. The board at EA watched the first 30 minutes of "Ready Player One" then decided that was the best possible business model and set out to top it.

[@Ablimify]

This is highly unlikely.

[@zuzoscorner]

lol, the base game wil be even smaller, os you gotta pay for even MORE expansion packs for the "Full" experience

[@BanditTech]

If we are honest, the monetization has killed the sims franchise years ago. Many people with self respect moved on from EA's sleazy monetization methods a long time ago. It really sucks, but I had to move on from some of the franchise I really love because the publishers have turned to the dark side.

[@MikJames-d1g]

This channel got me through some tough times. Take all the time you need to sort things out, we'll all still be here when you get back up and running 🙂👍

[@Mortebianca]

I'll try to see the positive here: no more Sims to destroy and ruin by EA. It was once possible to own a copy of a Sims game with all DLCs. It is not impossible to do that without being extremely rich. Each game was worse in that regard, now with DLC with sub-DLC. Imagine what a Sims 6 would be like. Thousands of DLCs. DLCs for the DLCs for the DLCs for the DLCs. Microtransactions all over the place. Pay to win multiplayer. I don't want to see the brand go into further destruction. Sometimes it's better for a brand to simply die.

[@zeldadahedgehog]

All of this makes me appreciate the simplicity of the first 2 games more and more as the years go by, even the spin off entries like Urbz and Sims Bustin Out

[@Jockuptown]

"It was once possible to own a copy of a Sims game with all DLCs. It is not impossible to do that without being extremely rich." you can find it all for free on the high seas, well supported too.

[@Detective_L]

EA needs to lose the rights to this franchise asap and give it to a company that's passionate about The Sims and we the people. EA needs a good reminder that we are the ones that pay there bills

[@laser__unicorn]

Its not even about being rich, most of the DLCs are broken anyway, even if they were free. This is how sad this game became, its so broken that even for free is not interesting anymore. The game is boring, everything is half-assed and limited.

[@AriaShade661]

that hurts man. true.

[@flyphoenix22]

The mod community really saved Sims 4. So many things that were missing and we waited for when the mods community came in with the cape. I don’t play Sims 4 anymore but I wanna give it up for the mods community. 👏🏾

[@Blinken-u6w]

If it wasn't for mods I would have never played the Sims 4 past the base game. Modders really are keeping the game alive.

[@artry93]

Same here. They're the real heroes of this trainwreck! Even I stopped played TS4 but I agree with the rollercoast they have to face in the game.

[@cryforhelp7270]

My respect goes out to them lmao

[@gem9535]

I'll definitely give it to the modders for making that game... a game. It is a shame how coping Sims 4 fans will use them as evidence for why the Sims 4 is good "with mods." You hear that a lot with soulless games. "It's good if you add the mods!" Then it isn't a good game. If it's only good WITH the unpaid efforts of dedicated fans, then it's a sh*t game.

[@SyntheticGoth]

Especially LittleMsSam! She quite literally fills in all the tiny gaps that are missing and genuinely makes the game functional and fun! If all the modders got together and made a new life sim, it would be incredible.

[@andrewhudson7108]

Clint trying very hard to talk about The Sims 4 and stay positive and not become the angriest gamer you’ve ever heard.

[@Famix]

Part of why I love him. He's always respectful, even when they deserve none. Makes his point more impactful

[@johnsmith8988]

He gets fucked in the ass but he's polite and offers tips to make it not hurt as much next time. 😅

[@abrams5819]

I love to see your reviews not just for the review itself, but for the subtle humor that you put in them, the genius thumbnails, and so on... you are just unique on youtube.

[@GabeCoolwater]

It's funny that the Sims 4 gets so much hate, yet so many people play it. I tried playing it twice (years apart), and I hated it. So I'm still playing the Sims 3... I love the customization, the open world, the sims' traits, sims' reactions and interactions with each other... And I'll keep playing the Sims 3 until something better comes along, but I'm sure it won't be from EA. Probably something like Paralives: it seems really cool. I'm really looking forward to watch your review on Paralives when it comes out. I've been watching you since the Sims 2!

[@ValleriaValentine]

A lot of people playing Sims don't care about traits, reactions or interactions.

[@leoguy022]

It’s like Kardashians, everybody hates them but still watches the show and media and buys their products

[@lifeisadrag7705]

I play it cause I sail the seven seas with all the meaty content I can get...That along with all the mods and custom content I shove into the game.

[@beelzemobabbity]

Its a love hate, mostly hate, relationship. Most people that play the sims 4 make a sim build and leave. Vs the older ones where people play the actual game

[@CaptainMorghan4152]

This is why I hope sims like indie games do well like paralives

[@willthomas2310]

What happened to that game? We just stopped hearing about it lately. Now that Inzoi game is the most talked about life sim game on the horizon

[@Bluegirl1777]

​ they just updated a video based on levels of dancing 4 days

[@DizzyBusy]

​@@willthomas2310 Inzoi has Krafton's massive PR engine and marketing budget behind it, while Paralives is funded on Patreon. That's probably why you've heard a lot of Inzoi buzz and sponsored contents these past couple of weeks, they're trying to up the hype.

[@chilbiyito]

​@@willthomas2310inzoi got big publisher krafton behind them paralives is crowd funded and they release updates on the game still although small since they're pretty much indie

[@Hungarycloud]

​@willthomas2310 it's in development

[@firyxx]

Once alternatives hit the market, they'll make The Sims obsolete like Cities: Skylines made Simcity obsolete.

[@bigslim7777]

There is one China or Korea one that is extremely high quality character models at close camera position.

[@ElTequilla]

Not quite the same situation unfortunately. Simcity has had numerous challengers and diverging competitors for its core audience for a long time, exacerbated by a 10 year holdout from SC4 to 2013. Fans patience were already at a breaking point The Sims is a wholly unique institution in the gaming landscape, so getting anyone adjusted off from that, however diminishing and poor the current offering seems, will be a very hard sell. They could lose some market share in the near future yes, but a full on pivot from the core audience that is deeply literate in how a life sim feels, is very unlikely

[@LuaanTi]

@@ElTequilla True, but EA lost a lot of people with the changes from TS3 to TS4 anyway. There's a lot of people who want updated TS2 or TS3. TS4 certainly doesn't satisfy that craving.

[@ElTequilla]

@@LuaanTi those players are probably more disenchanted, tapped out or lapsed than lost I would say - again, there is no other game for them to commit and forge a new relationship with. Active Fans of older games will still be hard to convince to any divergent game design, because their brains will be wired to the Sims way of interaction.

[@Trilliagan4727]

So, as a personal message to LGR, I do appreciate that you review as much of Sims 4 content as you can because you have a very comprehensive knowledge on all of the Sims games and I don't come to LGR for a EA butt kissing session. I come to LGR for a critical review that has the wherewithal to cite older stuff to say "Hey we did this!" My only request, other than continuing to subjugate yourself to Sims 4 for my pleasure and please consider somehow being either the main person for a The Sims replacer or at least somehow an advisor to help shape "The best" Sims game.

[@BroskiPlays]

Omg can't wait for your Sims 2 retrospective! I enjoyed your TS2 content back in the days so this should be a gem of a dozen!

[@Sykxezn]

Sims 2 is fully free now ;)

[@SJ-ru4ej]

@@Sykxezn Where at???

[@Sykxezn]

@@SJ-ru4ej Sims 2 starter pack ;)

[@Thim22Z7]

@@Sykxezn Would you per chance also know something about the Sims 1?

[@Sykxezn]

@@Thim22Z7 same spot, Sims 1 starter pack

[@nielsboesten204]

I miss the good old Sims 1 and 3 where I felt that I took my Sim on a development adventure. In 4 I just watch animations and fill up progress bars :(

[@S3SSioN_Solaris]

low res progress bars too. The skill up bar is a 2D image in the Sims 4 whilst its 3D in The Sims 2 and 3... The Sims 4 has the most uninspired and bland UI of the franchise. The only good thing about The Sims 4 is the building, that's it.

[@nielsboesten204]

@@S3SSioN_Solaris true! I will give the sims 4 credit for build and buy mode. I remember during Covid I build for days and then never play with it

[@acetrigger1337]

The one series driven by innovation finally halts to focus on monetization. Rest in Peace, The Sims.

[@CrAzYpotpie]

This happened with the release of Sims 2, and was clearly becoming their goal halfway through Sims 1.

[@keyspirits95]

​@@CrAzYpotpie Exactly. Some people forget that the Sims 1 had about 10 expansions

[@amentco8445]

sims died when Maxis did

[@Martin.IncB51]

The Sims died when Will Wright left.

[@ntl219]

@@CrAzYpotpie it has always been there from the start. The Sims 3 is the only game you can play with its base game with mods.

[@Fir3Chi3f]

Hope you're staying safe out there Clint! Things are replaceable and I'm really just happy to watch your older videos in the meantime.

[@Donnirononon]

I would advise anyone to NOT download all the Sims 4 DLC for free instead of splunging out a thousand bucks because that would be illegal!

[@guguy00]

And I would also like to advise not breaking the law by googling "The Sims 4 Updater" in case you have no idea where to find the dlc for free I mean don't do that!

[@user-ym4lj8ms3n]

how dare thee! Where do pirates even access this kinda stuff? We must all report this website! please share.

[@MaryamMaqdisi]

(r/piracy has a megathread, do not read it!)

[@theroyaljules39]

Yeah like that Anadius unlocker! Definitely don’t look that up and definitely don’t use it instead of paying EA thousands!

[@user-ym4lj8ms3n]

@@theroyaljules39 oh boy, I will definitely take a look at this barbarous practice! I will also tell all my friends NOT to visit that website in order to support our favorite game which is definitely not too expensive for what it is giving. Thanks!

[@joemachado33]

EA has no soul. This is not surprising.

[@joshuacloud7724]

I got off the Sims 4 hamster wheel years ago and went back to 3 but I still enjoy watching your reviews of the latest squeeze of the cash cow udder by EA. Please don't stop.

[@bugaboo_daisy9000]

This is completely unrelated but the pocket embroidery on that shirt is so cute. Very charming.

[@doomslayerdave]

The Sims 2 was the peak of the series. Hell it was the peak of SimCity too. When SimCity 4 and The Sims 2 were at their height it was by far the best of times for those two games. The Sims 2 had awesome expansions like University, Nightlife and Open for Business added a lot of cool concepts and content. RIP The Sims. Also The Sims Medieval was an awesome idea that shouldn't have been abandoned so quickly.

[@ElTequilla]

Hell yeah, could we at least hope for a standalone spin off like that.

[@cryforhelp7270]

I miss Sims Medieval LMAO

[@Spalfos]

It’s wild to me that EA aren’t planning a new entry. It’s like they’re just asking for another Cities Skylines situation to come along and rid them of the burden of having to make a new game

[@detfan1982]

That probably will be Paralives

[@CCJ1998]

Of course, it could be the debacle of Cities Skylines 2 that kind of made them rethink about pushing out another game that's gimped of all the DLC goodies. You can live a fantasy life in Sims 4 only to be forced back down to live in a 4 room shack with limited options in Sims 5.

[@iciajay6891]

The lazy route is to just keep jucing thr remaining series

[@russianbear0027]

​@@CCJ1998 ​ there's more than enough dlc features that IMO they could just bundle one or two popular ones like weather and such and still have tons of content for expansion packs and limited time collabs with other brands As for CS:2 irrc the main complaints were it being buggy, not that it lacked features.

[@jackywackysmacky4031]

​@@detfan1982Paralives is a victim of feature creep. I don't really see it coming out.

[@AwsomeKat777]

Honestly, I hate this BECAUSE of mods. Every time the game updates, things break and mods need fixing. What mod creator wants to work on a mod FOREVER???

[@SlavoidUkr]

That’s the point. They don’t want people to make free mods

[@DeathAdder9000]

Using that Wicked mod to bump uglies with my downloaded Amouranth Sim was the only reason I played that game. I was rather enjoying it, then a update botched everything, and I haven't touched the game in years now.

[@jackytreehornsghost]

This is a monumental drag. I'm so sick of games being ruined by greedy shareholders that don't even like games.

[@sydneypollock1011]

I remember being in middle school when two years of meh came out. Now I’m close to finishing college and nothing has changed ),:

[@WrestlingFace]

I'll forever hold on to my Sims 1 Complete Collection.

[@accountwontlastlong1]

It's great that classic games are still so enjoyable but sad that nothing good enough ever comes to replace or stand alongside them.

[@Josh-vc2ul]

Me too, that and the Sims2 Ultimate Bundle

[@NoctaleBane]

Looking forward to the Sims 2 Retrospective, it's by far my favourite entry in the series. I love listening to you ramble on, long may you continue to find new and old things to cover!

[@Z0Z33KY]

Nothing can beat The Sims 2, NOTHING. Not even Paralives or Inzoi. My reasoning: TS2 is a game beyond its time. The animations, the graphics, it was innovative and doing something completely new. This game came out 20 years ago and there are still modern life sim games (cough cough TS4) that have been unable to surpass its greatness. For its time it’s astounding how amazing of a game it is, and it still holds up today, still managed to maintain its relevance. It truly opened the door to the genre of life simulators.

[@Kepora1]

The theme song makes me want to cry. The sheer amount of nostalgia is just...man.

[@RushStudios101]

I saw your recent tweet about the hurricane. I hope you're safe and sound and that your amazing collection wasn't lost. Much love from a long-time viewer.

[@Khadi-C]

I first found your channel when I was 18. I am 30 years old now. I wasn't a kid, but somehow, I still feel like I've grown up with your channel. A yearly Sims wrap-up sounds cool. I'd be interested!

[@stephenriggs8177]

A Sims 4 executive infamously threatened the user community, after people grumbled about Sims 4's lack of an open world and CAST. He said that, if people did not support Sims 4, there would never be a Sims 5. Well, people DID support the Sims 4, but EA broke its promise on coming forth with a Sims 5.

[@DizzyBusy]

Well, now they're not getting my money anymore. EA is not doing me any favour, so I'm not going to do them any favour either by buying their bad products. I'm not supposed to get this riled up about this, but here we are

[@CatMuto]

Why would anyone be threatened by that? Ooooh, there might not be a new game coming out if I don't support this one. Well, I can just go back to the previous two games that are already out, that I already own, and that still have a good, active community that add things to it with mods or what not. =/

[@SyntheticGoth]

And that was Sim Guru Grant who has recently left the company and is now working on his own life sim project. I wonder if it's because they scrapped the sequel. 🤔

[@wangdangatomictango]

I'll never forgive Sim Guru Grant. Yes, he left the company recently, but his attitude towards the community STANK.

[@jennteal5265]

My husband and I have watched your channel together for over a decade at this point. Since 2012 I think? I've been playing Sims 2 since it was released with a ridiculous amount of mods and CC and honestly? I don't regret deciding, quite decisively, I wasn't interested in Sims 4. Your videos had a big hand in that because you, like me, have played all the iterations and was HONEST. Thank you for your content good sir, we still enjoy it :)

[@user-73a]

My girlfriend and I have been playing The Sims 3 since 2010, We've been enjoying it since senior year of high-school and it looks like it's the definitive experience at this point. No mods too btw!

[@VikingoChannel]

I'm glad to hear that you are safe and sound. I'm sure you'll come out of this stronger and with lots of new ideas for the channel.

[@lucydragonlover5330]

EA : Who's ready for another 50 years of a broken game with still some missing features! Literally everyone : No. Just. No.

[@artry93]

Raised your hand who wanted to moving to other upcoming and promised alternative of the Sims series by indies games.

[@accountwontlastlong1]

EA and other companies of their ilk don't care what their customer base thinks. As long as enough people buy their products, they don't give a shit, prolly even if they didn't.

[@kiddy1992]

Oh no based on the discord there's a lot of Sims cult sheep that absolutely demand that they keep making Sims 4 content. Treat it like Minecraft and never make Minecraft 2 untill it starts bursting at the seams

[@MatijaDrame95]

I mean apparently not, otherwise this wouldn't happen lol..

[@belladonnabeth3090]

Unfortunately a lot of people online have been stating the flawed logic of 'well I've spent so much money on the sims 4, so I'm happy they aren't moving on!' As if their games will be shut down the second a new game releases. If everyone had that mindset, then nothing would ever progress.

[@TwelveBaud]

Ten years ago when the Sims 4 came out, I remember deciding to wait until the graphics were more Sims 3 than Sims 2, they had the customization options of Sims 3, and they had the same level of content that was in base Sims 3. I'm still waiting on all but that last one, and it still has -- in my point of view -- less content than Sims 3 does, primarily because of the engine downgrade making it much harder to accomplish interesting, innovative tasks. I guess I'll be waiting ... forever, now.

[@kime5776]

Nah you'll have Inzoi soon don't worry :))

[@Wurmze]

@@kime5776inzoi, while I’m glad it exists, doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest. Looks like gta. At least Paralives is a bit closer to classic sims

[@kime5776]

@@Wurmze I mean sure but the OP said they wanted graphics more like sims 3 so they would probably be more into the realistic graphics. In terms of gameplay, that's valid I guess, but it's also much more similar to sims 3 which is great if you ask me (and most people).

[@doodly1152]

​@@Wurmze I'm sure if the game mechanics are good enough and the options are expansive enough it'll change your mind. Can't be that hard considering Sims 4 is a downgrade of Sims 3

[@Wurmze]

@@kime5776 I love sims 3 it’s my favourite instalment but I wouldn’t describe it as having realistic graphics, it still very much feels Sims

[@nytenjin]

I miss the early, halcyon days of The Sims, downloading and uploading houses and objects to Mall of the Sims and Seven Deadly Sims. Those were the days, really. It's not just nostalgia. THAT was The Sims.

[@MrLamchp]

I am glad you are okay Clint. Your house may be replaced but human life can't. May God bless you.

[@silkworm025]

EA Games: "We don't want you to have to restart your save game. That sucks, right?!" The Sims 4: "Duke Nukem has been crushed to death by a Murphy Bed!" Also The Sims 4: "Duke Nukem has died from Being Angry!" Also ALSO The Sims 4: "Duke Nukem has entered a rabbit hole and now you're playing a short text adventure game."

[@sneekeruk]

OR you sim decides on its own to go swimming in a thunderstorm and gets killed by lightning, or they die from some random mood buff.

[@aimeemarshall1036]

My frustration was my sim was tired but still wanted to swim in the pool and died because they wouldn’t sleep they just wanted to swim I had to get rid of the pool it kept happening cause sims ai is so dumb … usually in sims 3 or 2 they nap or refuse to do that shit I have to make them

[@meowmocha12]

The fact that sims can die from laughter in Sims 4 is insane to me. On the other hand, while playing Sims 2, I once had a guy die of fright when a ghost popped out of the sink to scare him. Considering the sim had ignored the perfectly good bathroom to take a sponge bath in the kitchen, and died buck naked in the middle of this ridiculous action, it was pretty funny to witness.

[@sunshowers3838]

I'm suddenly remembering all the times I had to cheat my vampires back to life too... No one thought to let their AI know that sunshine is bad, I assume.

[@meowmocha12]

@@sunshowers3838 Vampires love wandering outside and burning. And it doesn't help that in Sims 2, they were extremely fragile during the day. Vampires in Sims 2 are so punishing, I keep experimenting for mods to try to make them more manageable. I like the idea of playing a vampire sim, but the reality is sometimes a pain in the butt.

[@guguy00]

The year is 3014. Intergalactic space travel is now possible. Earth was destroyed a few centuries ago. Peace for all of humanity was official with treaties across the galaxy outlawing war. Humanity now live with advanced technology increasing lifespans by 250 years. And EA announce a 6000th expansion pack for the Sims 4. Thankfully, they also announced a new game in the series at last: The Sims 4 Remastered EDIT: I forgot the final punchline; main feature of the remaster: 2024 graphics, and the need to purchase all 6000 expansions again to get all the content. Roadmap until 3055

[@Zachmxyzptlk]

3024: the church of Todd Howard adds Skyrim to the sims 4.

[@funtime414]

Of course it'll have a terrible base game 😂

[@someguy4252]

@@Zachmxyzptlk i just hope it doesnt become a will it run doom phenominon... imagine if can we recreate skyrim in this engine becomes a thing

[@tristanbrooks4755]

This is exactly what happened with Sim City: it was a beloved franchise with years of success, only to be killed by a dumbed down and limited version that focused on online experience. Citites Skylines took the reins from EA in the city builder genre. I think Paralives or InZOI will likley do the same here over the course of the next few years. Sim City died faster because Cities Skylines became a viable alternative very early on after it was released. We are just now, after 10 years, starting to see viable competitors emerge and I think this will make the Sims go the way of Sim City.

[@tiffanytho9676]

I dont think they even care. They are already investing really little money and they will still get money even if they stop it all together. They will just write it off and continue as nothing happened.

[@mindcrome]

Dude I just heard what happened with your house I am so sorry to hear that I hope everything's okay it sounds like you're physically okay I just hope everything works out man

[@captainufo4587]

It's such a bummer that Paradox cancelled their Sims alternative, particularly after this news. Even if it was poor compared to The Sims, it would've at least opened some space for a different take on the theme.

[@dibberz-v1z]

paradox is literally just european EA, the monetization would be even worse

[@lucasdude]

the character models looked awful & i dont know how they got that far into development with them looking like that.

[@estusflask982]

"Windows 10 will be forever"...few years later Windows 11...Windows 12

[@aserta]

Whomever believed that lie needs to have their eyebrows singed. That was such Bulldust.

[@Rymac91]

Alternatively this could be like Mac OS X (roman numeral 10) which launched in 2001 and kept the name OS X for 15 years before eventually dropping the name OS X for just mac OS in 2016. They moved away from the version number 10 in 2020, but it's still mostly the same OS that launched 23 years ago.

[@MrWolfSnack]

Windows 7 is forever for me. Stop making OS'es for babies that need their hands held through every fucking function.

[@Hemostat]

Then they erase all mention of it and pretend like they never said Suddenly you're crazy for bringing it up

[@Ezullof]

Yeah they just want to securing forever incomes with the Sims 4, so they'll have steady revenues, while also working on other projects.

[@samvimes9510]

I remember when the EA logo used to be a seal of quality. Command and Conquer, SSX, LOTR: The Two Towers, Def Jam Fight for NY, Burnout Revenge...they put out SO many incredible games in the 2000s. Now the EA logo is a massive red flag telling you to steer clear of anything they touch.

[@kiddy1992]

It never was a seal of quality, the studios were quality. Ea being a greedy publisher doesn't matter. They killed Westwood and bullfrog

[@roywilliams6355]

Most won't remember at the launch of The Sims 4, these was a lot of backlash as it was more limited than the The Sims 3. In the Sims 3 you could jog around your entire *town*, then The Sims 4 came around and suddenly you couldn't go anywhere without hitting a loading screen. The Sims 4 was already far behind the technological curve when it launched TEN YEARS AGO because they wanted it to run on the most basic machine anyone would have in 2014.