SINCERE - by BLAKUS? (100% AI Generated)

SINCERE - by BLAKUS?
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And now for something completely different. Here's something I produced in the last two days. It is 100% generated by AI. How do you feel about this? At the moment I am mesmerized, anxious, excited, and in disbelief all at once. The lyrics of the song ask some of the questions I currently have spinning in my head!
I didn't write a single note or lyric. I resisted recording any new elements whatsoever. 100% AI generated and performed. I just gave the topic and keywords that described some of what I was after. It took hundreds of generations/iterations, and lots of curation and stitching everything together to make a complete song. I don't know how to feel.

[@Blakus]

No, I don't plan on using AI in my own music. This is purely my exploration of the technology in its current form. Chilling.

[@Blakus]

@@Vivaildi I look forward to using AI in some capacity, I can see it being useful in workflows and possibly even realism etc, but not to create complete compositions (or even full parts) with a click. Kinda defeats the purpose aye.

[@MrEnagee]

Where can I learn about this tech used?

[@DJLA]

It was fun while it lasted :( I can only take solace in that I was fortunate and lucky enough to live in a time to accomplish most of my artistic musical goals while creativity still had to come from within. This does sound great, which means its only a matter of time until an 8 year old with an ipad can do the same. Art is dead?

[@music_of_wisdom]

I think craft and art are 2 different things. Craftsmanship will probably die but not art.

[@PeterTMusic]

Impressive melody writing from the AI. The lyrics match pretty well, and the melodic phrasing is actually not bad, haha. Crazy to hear!

[@laurentlabede]

You're probably feeling like the illustrators did a little over a year ago when they saw AI-generated images arrive on the scene. It's all the more ironic given that many music composers have used AI images to illustrate their music, often without realizing it.

[@colinlockridge6427]

That is wild... thanks for taking the time to expose us to whats possible now

[@RunarLundvall]

Suno AI keeps impressing me - good job, man! Let's come back to this video in 6 months and see what has happened then. I think we should expect some kind of expontential development growth - tech stacking upon tech. Remember text to vocal being absolutely trash mid-november last year? :P

[@jcav764]

Well done! This makes me feel a bit sick but also that's how life goes. As far as I'm concerned we have had humans making the equivalent of ai generated music for a while so I'm cool with this. As you said, you did a lot of curation and stitching to make this work - Most likely because AI still struggles with intent which is one of the most important things when it comes to art. I think where AI music will really excel is giving people with 1 or 2 skills the ability to fill in the areas they struggle with (similar to what Ozone does, or Superior Drummer 3, or EZ Keys etc). The more I think about this the more excited I am about the future of music creation.

[@manganume]

Seriously, for some reason i was expecting that Blakus' signature brass would come at some point ;)

[@b.z9940]

The song made me want to hug my computer

[@Blakus]

I think you should be hugging creatives 😅🥲

[@BenMewsic]

@@Blakus a computer's soul

[@MichaelGraybill]

Took a day to consider and come back and listen again. Suspect the context is weighing heavily, but this song does move me emotionally on some level, can't deny it. Maybe it's that unnerving feeling in the pit of my stomach, like I'm looking over the edge of a long drop and something's telling me to step back a little but I can't. For the moment, this wouldn't have been possible without your excellent curation, or your instincts to pursue one of the many ideas it cranked out before you actually vibed with one. But I expect in the fairly near future, we humans are going to find ourselves fans of both human and AI artists. What we're hearing from these algorithmic models now is obviously trained on and regurgitating variations on what we've made musically as a species so far, but given time, more smarts, or maybe only more skillful and focused human prompting, this new capability could quickly be pushed into utterly new territory rather than imitative, to a place where it is actually pioneering new trails. It's wild to hear it 'imitate' complex fx chains and song writing styles with equally uncanny but undeniably intuitive results, without actually knowing anything about engineering or the craft of song writing. I used to think we were going to have to wait for 'sentience' or something like that before that was possible, but hearing this and after the things I just made myself in the last day of experimenting, I'm thinking with a human prompting creatively and curating, and with deeper and better controls, this is something akin to a radically new synthesis technology. I asked it to give me a gorgeous solo cello with the idea that I might sample it and build my own instruments out of what it can produce (this failed horribly with Google's model btw), and it didn't take long to start getting some good enough results that with enough attempts, I think it would be doable on some level anyway. But then I realized this was wasteful, considering there are real cellists I can sample, but also because clearly this tech as an engine is capable of so much more, so let's sample that instead and start building things right alongside my other samples and recordings and synths. I agree with those here who posted about this also pushing us to write more human music too, reaching deeper and pushing harder with the craft in ways that modern 'chasing the sound of success' these days doesn't tend to promote. I'm realizing more and more that I'm being forced to answer the question, non-hypothetically, why and who do I write music for? Was a bit relieved to sense that, just as don't write thinking I'll ever become a superior writer to J Williams and friends, I know it'll be silly to expect I'll write slicker or even, ironically, with the emotional depth that a future AI will be capable of, but I will still enjoy my successes and struggles just the same. This song shook me up enough to take a moment, and it took the human and the machine to make that moment work. For now... Beautifully done! Thanks for putting this out there the way you have.

[@LuisHumanoide]

Interesting experiment to know the capabilities of AI in music. I hope these AI tools will assist artists instead of replacing them

[@olajideparis]

The lyrics are incidental, but it sounds as good as any pop song out there.

[@timhumphries7966]

Pretty slick

[@JonMaxwell]

It's got the early 2000's R&B down

[@KylePreston]

Your own music is still way WAY better man.

[@SergeNarcissoff]

Nice

[@JDH_MUSIC]

Impressive

[@aaronTmusic-250]

This honestly doesn't worry me at all. Because it's not human.

[@codywrightmusic]

Out of curiosity, did it only spit out complete songs? Or did it give you the stems so you could stitch it together that way?

[@Blakus]

it creates full arrangements, it isn't able to do stems

[@FireF1y644]

Well, there are stem separation AIs. Which, of course, will add even more artifacts.

[@Kobfried]

scary!😱

[@Cr4z33_YT]

I know how to feel: 🤯

[@maximilianbeiel6812]

That is...impressive. I really hate to say that whilst being glad that - for now (!) - only a professional like you, able to understand what makes sense in a musical way / who knows which outputs to discard or use is able to utilize ai for ´professional´ outputs. It is intimidating that ai is somehow able to understand vocal expressions and to recreate them. If tech like this becomes even more advanced and user-friendly (and it will!), us composers and other creatives will have no choice but to find other ways to make a living UNLESS society discards the concept of capitalism (...and I hate to say that!). Let me explain: AI will eventually become better at our craft and Mindfactory already proved, that even "creativity" (= recombining existing concepts) is not foreign to ai. Ai will become better than us humans, a weird imagination which we will probably have to deal with seriously sooner rather than later. My 2 cents

[@GARYCOLEIV]

I was blown away by the AIVA AI orchestral scores... 100% AI orchestral music. ORIGINAL AI ORCHESTRA SONG kzbin.info/www/bejne/nauqnHaVpJ6bjqssi=R0z_ZldmexzPhAK- BEETHOVEN UNFINISHED SONG kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZa5q5V9eqt4r7csi=K5VX2kzRzvKudBPR BTW... Do you still like and use ABBEY ROAD ONE as your main orchestra library? Or do you prefer the Spitfire Symphony Orchestra sound over Abbey Road One?

[@FireF1y644]

It's pretty bad actually, I check their progress regularly, it's like a very basic procedural generator. Yes, they sometimes post okay sounding stuff on their channel - it's cherrypicked and maybe modified by humans. I couldn't get anything even remotely good and non-generic from it in 100s of attempts however (only ONE sci-fi ambient track sounded okay for a background music, but even there modifications were required still). Suno AI is much more promising right now

[@Hankblue]

I dunno, the voice/lyric generation impresses me more than the production. I don't think anyone getting paid for pop production is really threatened by this yet, maybe in 3+ years.

[@Mattokamus]

I’m lucky to have a job making music but I know it’s only a matter of time. Considering what I can do next… construction? Not sure yet.

[@AlenaZorina]

you learn to use AI as a tool, combine both knowledge. good luck 🤞

[@lovelymusicnow4404]

WHAT AI did you use?

[@nunomalo]

Not quite sure I understand "I produced in the last two days. It is 100% generated by AI". If "you" produced it than than how is it 100% AI generated? Sounds a little confusing. The song sounds very convincing. So we'd be curious to understand. Which software(s) or tools were involved?

[@Blakus]

I had the AI generate hundreds of iterations, then curated these and stitched them together to produce a full track. I didn't write or perform a single note or lyric. The first 45 seconds are actually entirely a single AI generation, it just took quite a while for it to spit an idea out that I really liked and thought was worth dedicating time to making more complete.

[@gregrobertmusic]

Nice voice bro 🤣

[@ChinmayMurthyX220]

What model did you use to make this?

[@MikeSheehan727]

I’m guessing Suno AI

[@Blakus]

@@MikeSheehan727 Indeed, Suno AI

[@MikeSheehan727]

@@Blakus it's wild. a little concerning tbh

[@Blakus]

@@MikeSheehan727yeah. It’s messing me up!

[@codywrightmusic]

BLAKUS VIDEO

[@Kraflyn]

:D :D :D

[@RYDARUS]

Bruh

[@user-rx9hm1yj3g]

If it took a lot of manual work to stitch things together then it's maybe not all that bad. So far I don't find the overall sound/arrangement impressive at all. Since it all comes from AI it probably won't be offensive haha. Would take me a half day to come up with something that seems more exciting sonically and arrangement wise. Especially in terms of details and unexpected fun elements. But I'd say the same about a lot of pop songs I listened to (not that many to be fair haha).

[@Blakus]

Haha, it was so hard for me to resist adding things to the arrangement! I agree, i'ts simple, but personally I think it's quite solid, especially as a base to add from. I'm pretty confused at how it's getting a vocal that's as expressive as it is - somewhat mind blowing to me.

[@user-rx9hm1yj3g]

@@Blakus Yea, it's definitely expressive... I can't get past the artifacts though. It sounds like it constantly gets fluffy, like a synth in unison mode, like at 0:12. Without that it would definitely be great. I think there is another vocal AI synth that I heard better examples from called Synthesizer V Dreamtonics.

[@Blakus]

@user-rx9hm1yj3g yeah it’s definitely quite artifacty! Let’s hope it takes them a decade or two to make it cleaner. Somehow I don’t think we have that long 😂😞

[@user-rx9hm1yj3g]

@@Blakus While we already talk about synthesized stuff like that, have you checked out Infinite Brass? IMO the recent version (from a year ago roughly) sounds incredible. I think it suffered from the initial version they released which I remember not sounding super impressive. Would certainly be interesting what you can do with it. The somewhat plasticy/perfect sound could be fought with some tape emulations or saturation.

[@Blakus]

@@user-rx9hm1yj3g you know, I might give it a go - you're probably right. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm super fussy with the sound of instruments being in a space, and Initially I did find it plasticy. I'll have another look!

[@grantfloering]

Ugh, this is difficult to listen to. Those of us who produce music of any genre for a living, we’re going to have to challenge ourselves to create music that stands out as “more human”. AI generated content like this sounds about as mediocre as most music created these days, and will undoubtedly force us to raise the bar and choose even higher quality over quantity more so than before. I guess I have two hopes with the future of AI music (and other creative outlets). 1. Markets gets saturated so quickly with too much AI content that people end up craving art that was created by another living soul. Not machine. 2. (this is a long shot and I’m not a fan of handouts) but perhaps the industries disrupted by this technology and the impact it has on the livelihoods of creators of all mediums will be subsidized for the losses from businesses moving to sourcing music from AI. I don’t know man, the future is as grey as ever. I’m fortunate that the people I work with value real music over AI (for now) but I look at my kids who have shown an interest in writing music like me, and the future of them growing up in a world with the competitive nature of AI is scary shit.

[@Arkogelul]

What I would consider 100% generated would be a 0% intervention by a human. Curation and stitching makes it maybe 30% AI generated (maybe less)!

[@Blakus]

I didn’t intervene at all with the first 45 seconds which I think is damn impressive and scary.

[@Arkogelul]

Oh... Ok that is pretty scary indeed. What scares me the most is that I actually kind of enjoy listening to this...@@Blakus

[@Blakus]

@@Arkogelul that's exactly why I'm feeling jarred too. Some of the things coming from this AI are actually eliciting an emotional response from me. I mean, it's obviously only as good as it is because of the amazing artists it's analyzed and absorbed, which doesn't feel right at all...confusing times.

[@Arkogelul]

Exactly. That is one of the main problems with anything AI does. And it can give some people the impression that they are actually creating art. And the funniest thing of all is that these "artists" start complaining that their prompts are being stolen, and that's not fair... @Blakus

[@Arkogelul]

@@BlakusI'm a bit in shock lol.. I don't get how this can actually come up with something like that. Does it generate the whole thing, or does it generate midi files or sheet music?

[@mrmikis]

This is quite dangerous for a talented composer to be messing with Ai just to spark discussion. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. However, it’s not your fault and computer coders and creators of Ai technology need to have a serious think about the tools they are creating and where the line should be drawn. Adobe premiere has a fantastic remix tool that shortens and elongates arrangements using Ai. This is not available in software daws yet but I’m sure it’s coming. As soon as Ai starts writing rhythms, chords and melodies, I’m out. 😢

[@Blakus]

I refuse to be ignorant about the threat of AI anymore. I want to know exactly what I’m dealing with here, and I think all other creators should know too.

[@cinematicgoodness7325]

This is disappointing. Also hypocrotical. For a song called "Sincere," this sure was made with zero sincerity. Highly careless of you to do this. You already make great music on your own. Why try to give more credence to something that's being used to try and replace real artists like you? Not to mention, unregulated AI like this means that it took from existing songs to generate what it did. You were one of the last people I'd expect this from. Disappointing.

[@Blakus]

The whole thing is ironic, isn’t it? 😢

[@cinematicgoodness7325]

​​@@Blakus Im sorry, I can't accept this, man. You're already wicked talented. You dont need AI to do for you what you've been excelling at.

[@Blakus]

@@cinematicgoodness7325oh, don’t misunderstand me. I’m terrified and devastated at what AI is doing to our creatives. The process of creating/curating this song made me quite emotional actually. This song is me trying to open eyes of people that may be still complacent about AI capabilities. I’m legitimately posing the question, will humanity find sincerity in AI art? The fact is, it’s capable of good art and it’s about to be everywhere. We’re about to find out if where the art comes from holds any value to people or not. I won’t be using it in my real work, but at some point in the future difficult decisions will have to be made by many, both creators and consumers. This should be a wake up call. I hear many brushing it off, I was one of them, up until a week ago. I’m frustrated it is this good and it’s only going to get better. It is only as good as it is because of every hardworking and brilliant creative that ever created before it. Doesn’t feel fair at all. I hope releasing this can help bring more discussion and debate.

[@cinematicgoodness7325]

@@Blakus I feel like the time for debating is reaching an end. At some point, we need to take action. Because to me, this only has the appeal of sounding pretty and nothing else. When I hear it, I hear familiar things from other songs, a frankensteined mass of other existing works taken without the knowledge or consent of the original artists responsible. Thats different from taking influence or inspiration from a different work, or in the case of a song, a remix. This just feels like something that looks like it has substance but really doesnt because it wasnt made by itself with any thought or intent. Its a machine coldly and soullesly regurgitating something from the backs of actual artists on an assembly line. But I dont need to tell you that. I get using this to spark discussion and debate, and thats totally fair, but I just feel that the complaints about this and the issues that come up have been heard from here all the way to Timbuktu. AI already has its place in society. It was never meant to replace artists.