VRChat IK 2.0 - Better Tracking for Everyone!

[@ActualDavis]

I've been asking for 10-point tracking for 4 years and i'm so happy it's finally officially supported.

[@ActualDavis]

For some reason replies to this comment are being either deleted or hidden, so let me answer some questions. FatBoyInASandPit replied: "And yet, mods added this feature far far before it was supported officially. Really says a lot about the VRChat dev team." Answer: Well I'm also not a big fan of the VRC team but recently they've really been stepping their game up. I can't really give them a hard time if they're adding requested features. koops replied: "why did you do 10 point if it wasn’t fully supported then? just wondering" Answer: I got more trackers for motion-capture animation for Blender, it worked in other SocialVR apps such as NEOs and i'm really happy it finally came to VRC WizardDoge replied: "touch grass" Answer: As a VRChat content creator and world maker I can confidently say the grass shader I use can indeed be interacted with! You can touch the grass :)

[@billieme8978]

So for them for years you didnt think to get ik tweaks🥴

[@ActualDavis]

@@billieme8978 I did get IK Tweaks. I've been an active part of the modding community for a long time and have contributed to multiple projects in hopes to bring various quality of life fixes to the game. My comment above was praising the developers for *officially* supporting 10-point tracking. Mods are great but the devs don't have a great outlook on them, so it's good that many of the features being worked on by modders are seeing official integration.

[@diebygaming8015]

@@ActualDavis But, they only added support for 10-point instead of 11-point. It makes no sense. That means you can't use a chest tracker. The steamvr bindings give you 11 points, so we STILL have to use a mod just to use all the default steamvr bindings. .. of course i agree that adding features that were previously in mods only is great, but 10 instead of 11 is just..

[@ActualDavis]

@@diebygaming8015 okay well 10 is better than none lol, I'm content.

[@CaseFace5]

this IK beta fixes every problem I had with the legacy IK, its so nice. No more FBT hunch while running with your arms forward, no more random hip tilt that requires rig hacks to fix. *chefs kiss* gg VRC devs

[@TheRealAnsontp]

I want to believe that VRChat devs are experiencing a world of hurt when programming this IK update- If anyone has watched the avid programmer (Randall), they must’ve had to ram that code down their throats... horrifying

[@blinded6502]

What do you mean?

[@nikidino8]

@@blinded6502 Doing any physics engine features can be a huge pain in the ass which takes very long time to develope. Especially with VR avatars that must have been an enormous amount of work.

[@blinded6502]

@@nikidino8 IK is not physics though. It's honestly a quite simple system, even if you take into account all of the tweaks mentioned in the video.

[@Ketaset999]

@@blinded6502 IK for regular games is much much simpler, with flatscreen gaming you are looking at 2 DOF +/_ crouching for most basic rigging. Here you are using 6 DOF ^6 and have to still make it behave naturally within the full range of human motion across user made models and rigging without control of proportions.

[@blinded6502]

@@Ketaset999 Still doesn't sound that much difficult, considering how easy it is to make an IK system and constrain it appropriately.

[@paolaanimator]

Glad to see full body tracking get an update! That's exciting 💙

[@Savergn]

I'm very happy with this update, I bought FBT in early Feb of this year, and discovered that a lot of the avatars I liked using had various issues with a FBT setup. Some were so broken that turning on FBT caused the avatar to sink into the floor, or have their body/arms twisted in strange ways. This update fixed all of that, even without the avatar creators making any changes.

[@gothicology7672]

what’s the best full body tracking for quest 2? I’m looking to get it for my birthday but I can’t find any good recommendations

[@stephyyyyyyyyyyy]

@@sleeve9097 you're poor

[@eastcoasthavoc1454]

@@gothicology7672 You'd have to buy base stations and have a pc in order to even begin on FBT with a quest 2, and have to buy the trackers as well Even with just the Trackers and the Base stations alone is damn near 800$ and can increase even more depending where you buy, so be wary of what your going into

[@DonnieBoiTV]

i really hope the height bit is true. im 6ft and have had my vrc height set to 5'6 so fbt would work with most avatars.

[@rubyy.7374]

I’m 5’3 and I have to set my height as 4’8 haha

[@JagerRex]

Works for me!

[@MinesweepActual]

Wait. That helps with fbt? I just recently got vive trackers and have already run into a few problems like that

[@malzergski]

​@@MinesweepActual it does, especially if your avatar is smaller than you, your tracking balls should match your feet, not 50 cm above

[@MinesweepActual]

@@malzergski Neat, I'll keep that in mind thanks

[@eclairofironblood1623]

Finally someone gives information about this everyone was dodging their question

[@OLBarbok]

I'm really glad you all over there are finally starting to take on things that have been requested for a long time now and probably were top priority for most people! =) 2:46 Good one

[@purplehatter550]

I don't really have tracking, but as time goes on I do intend to have the full set of 'full body tracking' equipment. I'm so glad that when I get into all that, IK 2.0 will already be there ready to use for greater accuracy

[@Peglegkickboxer]

And we will all welcome you at the mirror while laying on our couches/beds as one of us. Godspeed space cowboy.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

Your new fit is adorable! I love the tech details on the sleeves!

[@FantasyNero]

Avatars PhysBones are Beta Live now please make a comparison demanding avatars like E-Girls has a lot of bones on hair and tails, compare the physics, and most importantly compare the performance fps before and after, Thank you so much for making these amazing details that what i was looking for.

[@RiskiVR]

Love your stuff sipp! Keep up the great work and thank you for helping inform others about every new vrc feature! ^^

[@pawza1050]

Video popped up on my page, i checked it out and i dont regret it. Great work! Amazing videos and very interesting channel. Good luck in yt carrer, you deserve much more subs than you have rn!

[@onevoltten7352]

Didn't expect them to improve FBT support, this looks amazing.

[@blen_dysstudio3487]

I don't have these settings.

[@nitorik1578]

I met you in vr chat once! i had no idea you made such high quality videos, best of luck! ♥

[@PiinkiePiee]

I won't get to much use out of full body but the arm changes are very nice no more clipping into myself,no more reaching out for something for my body to lean forward putting me on something and messing with my camera and throwing me off, and better more natural elbow movement is definitely nice even for non full body but built in head set hand tracking as I have a rift s

[@JOERze]

3:41 Lmao. Really nice video. Keep up the great work Sipp. And long time no see ❤

[@MetaPlay23]

Thanks so much for this video! I didn't really fully understand what the update added and fixed exactly so this helped me a lot!

[@SoxZYT]

Im so happy do see this update! also unironically laughed at some funny bids. Amazing. thank you Sippbox

[@MrPhillz]

I wonder show this compares to Ik tweaks. Hopefully it'll be better!

[@angelaheart6432]

Thank you for putting out these videos, always informative and easy to watch~

[@GazixVR]

lets gooooo, I am loving the idea of this update. I can't wait to see where it goes

[@spirit5923]

It's so cool to see the game getting much needed changes

[@pikaplays1943]

Bro finally! I’ve been waiting for this makes things easier XD

[@bonbon_ann2701]

You pretty much answered all the questions I had about this next update. Good vid

[@memesredacted]

I just ordered my tundra trackers a couple weeks ago and they should arrive next month. Absolute perfect timing

[@IsMyNameUnique]

this is sick! wish i actually had space to play vr but yknow cool that the game is getting some big updates to tracking

[@kymerahYT]

This made Kinect FBT so much better!

[@pianocatvr]

VRCHAT NO.1

[@shingshongshamalama]

"If your model has... _interesting_ proportions." I can think of two specific proportions people will be very excited about yes.

[@Brewnette]

Thank you for these update videos, these are so so helpful

[@JamieVatarga]

Abusing those trackers! How could you?

[@SippsAvatarBox]

theyve been through worse

[@wolfyy.]

I justtt got fbt a few days ago so this is awesome news! :)

[@Raikuthedragon]

This looks so AMAZING, as a whole new Q2 FBT user. This will strengthen my experience.

[@Khontadhondato]

Thank you a lot for this video!!! I really appreciate it, brother!!!

[@Saint_Branden]

That’s pretty cool even if you don’t have full body.

[@supking403]

Thank you for having boneworks soundtrack in background

[@ch3rryvixen571]

I am so god damn happy about this, now I can stop being a pretzel while in full body lol

[@finnianheart]

this is all super cool but i just have to say your avatar is so cute!!

[@marcuslupus5361]

Thank you for the info.

[@reed8246]

Amazing update video as always! :)

[@somenerdygirl4696]

Thanks for the video!

[@quentinevans1897]

So I've been looking for full body but, I'm currently using quest 2 so I would like to know what full body is should use.

[@theyfwjaylin]

Its not really showing that option for me, why isnt it showing?

[@sukumizune2477]

Are you testing your model in Unity or vrc? I want be able to test my model in unity (being able to adjust the model to mi size) but dont even know where to start ):

[@girumon_vrc]

Will you be doing the Physbones any time? Just asking no rush :)

[@SippsAvatarBox]

later on when they're out of beta, yes

[@Incognito_Blazer]

More point tracking Too bad trackers aren't getting cheaper any time soon oof

[@evolvedant]

Love your videos as always~ Fantastic

[@SorcererVtuber]

I physically winced at you throwing your trackers

[@pcgameboy8407]

Extremely well video. Felt like it was made by a 100k youtuber.

[@chrissyoons]

I don't even have full body or anything yet I'm still super invested in this update, it is super duper interesting..

[@shushyshushy6762]

What's great is that we can switch over to the old Legacy IK, which means I can still grab Ed from Big Als avatar world and scream "Buttered Toast!" in friends lobbies as if I were in Ed, Edd n Eddy.

[@unknown20005]

i think even now vr is a semi new technology we are still pioneering so its not surprising that there are issues in a way vrchat and the other vr games share similarities with other games as they have issues when they are new and released that will be fixed over time and i know vrchat has been around for awhile now but its all new technology and there is no previous groundwork laid out like there is for console or pc games so it takes longer for them to be able to figure out what is wrong and fix the issues but im sure as time passes they will get better at fixing issues and adding new features and better tracking

[@pace4765]

I switched to beta but didnt notuce anything- did NOT see all those options so thanks for making this video, time to go check some options 🤙

[@myamarcial1633]

Great update! Thanks! 😄

[@crabravekrab1174]

best news this year

[@MrYupatis]

Really good explanation, thankies!~

[@wodroow]

man is speaking about something so serious while in an anime character's body

[@TaidaDave]

nice, and i'll sub just for that 2:46 meme

[@reyluna0]

Finally! This is all sooo good!

[@isaihbailey1369]

What base model are you using in the video? It's adorable!

[@SippsAvatarBox]

monaca! mutachannel.booth.pm/items/1093504

[@HyenaBlank]

Honestly, would be nice if this was kept as like some kind of togglable feature cause it was quite nice for avatars with shorter arms 1:40

[@Redoreca]

video points out there is on option to revert back to legacy ik. I assume this is what you ment.

[@HyenaBlank]

@@Redoreca Oh nah I mean like the arm reach thing itself, while still having the rest of the new IK system

[@Penny0413]

thx so much! i will love this!! ^^

[@AbaddonSloth]

yo sip what you recomend for keeping trackers on you for knees and elbows. for me the trackers would be constantly slipping

[@moonoramaVR]

3:42 caused me so much mental pain

[@DecentRecruit]

tanks for the video. I didnt know this was a thing

[@stinky8677]

i can’t see IK 2.0 under the beta tab. how do i make sure it’s activated? do i have to type in a beta code?

[@Yutaru]

nice :DDD now with a single camera you can just track so many more points of your body, gg

[@Cherwub]

Hi I have a quick question, The new update has completely messed up my tracking and looks horrible i cant even swap to the old ik system because its just broken and leave all my avatars broken in a weird pose. Im a dancer and all of my movements now look stiff and messed up. Im 4'8 (yes painfully short and im 18) But I dont know what to do to fix this

[@WanderingWlf]

Wow. Thanks for the video.

[@tsavoritel9980]

this is exactly what ive been wanting out of the vrc dev team

[@PlaguesterDoktor]

can't wait to do this.

[@jt3000o]

This is going to be great for slime VR tracking hell yeah

[@pace4765]

Honestly may mix some slime trackers in as elbow n knees to match my vive ones, way better cost

[@jt3000o]

@@pace4765 nice that sounds cool

[@Ms._America_]

My Oculus keeps on switching from IK 2.0 which I want and I don't know how to keep it on the IK 2.0.

[@yeanedits]

2:45 I laughed so hard when I saw the image 🤣

[@user-qi1tb3lk9j]

great video very underrated, I have a question does this affect people how don't use full body tracking at all or only full body players? still very interesting either way and lovely video editing and production you gained another sub keep up the good work!!

[@mica4977]

They mentioned 3 point tracking ( like quest users who only have head & arms) also gain from this update

[@AdeonWriter]

You still get the new IK where your elbows will wrap around your body to avoid clipping into it

[@nnnnoooah]

does this do anything with the kinect, I've always been wayyyy to poor to afford vive trackers so I just use my old Kinect 360, but it is a bit buggy and I would like to know if this might help it

[@ApolloOfTheSun7]

wow nice, now I can use all 9 of my trackers at once. Glad to know my money didn't go to complete waste. xD

[@ForgetfulHatter]

this'll be fantastic (when my full body trackers arrive 😋 ....ehe heh heh heh..)

[@khloewhite8536]

Ty so much this vid helps so much ty man😄

[@kassixo]

Why does my avatars elbow tracking still acts like the "old" version tho, arms clipping through the body?

[@sinnisdumb]

did you figure it out?

[@tracyblanks6645]

Good I can use this without getting trackers :D

[@foxxify1]

2:47 I see that image every time now XD

[@LPLoVega]

How does this new IK 2.0 system compare to IKTweaks? I'm waiting for my FBT to arrive but people recommended I should try IKTweaks, but now this new system comes out. Any suggestions?

[@SippsAvatarBox]

This one is better because it can't get you banned

[@AidenFur]

@@SippsAvatarBox omg nice

[@maxx1o1]

@@SippsAvatarBox IKTweaks does not get you banned. every fbt user uses it and if they did ban it they would lose just about all their fbt players.

[@SippsAvatarBox]

@@maxx1o1 *citation needed*

[@AdeonWriter]

@@maxx1o1 Hi, I'm a FBT user who does not use IKTweaks. In the future, please say "Every FBT user except for Adeon Writer uses IKTweaks". Thank you.

[@almondmilk7817]

will u need more trackers for the 10 point tracking or is it just guessing??

[@OfficerBarricade]

i like the hat on your avatar its cool looking 😍

[@kizuVR]

Those videos are top tier!

[@angeliccacastillo5604]

I have a question, do you need body trackers? Or no

[@Ballissle]

Does this require that my avatar has IK handles on the rig in the first place?

[@robertweekes5783]

There’s something slightly weird about seeing a cute anime girl avatar - hearing a dude’s voice - and not being too surprised by it 😆

[@edmaniayt]

*Heard the boneworks music in the background* UwU

[@pumkintheartist-2005]

I was told this beta was adding dynamic bones for quest users dose it still do that or am I confused?

[@SippsAvatarBox]

That's a seperate beta, and it's not adding Dynamic Bones, it's adding Physics Bones. It's important to not confuse the two, one is very well optimized, one is not xD

[@rofbad]

your avatar is so cute lol i hope i will get vr too

[@BamBamCam]

The boneworks music is haunting me

[@SakkiTao]

Tengo las Quest 2, que sensores de full body recomendáis¿

[@GT0NY]

Wow! Cool! Thanks!

[@BKHE32Ch]

Me, who don't even have a basic VR headset: INTERESTING

[@damnyogirlria9209]

it is Oculus support full body tracking on vr chat too?

[@soothouse780]

hey does vr chat support full body tracking for quest 2