CHEAP Full Body Tracking for Quest 2 users! [ HaritoraX ]

[@Trixieflips]

This feels like something that could be sewn into a body suit and have all the cables and straps hidden. That would be an awesome project for someone to do with these in the next few years

[@Eartshock]

Just looking at the straps and wires everywhere gives me some anxiety about accidentally ripping them and damaging something. Having them tugged away in a suit of sorts would make this much nicer in my eyes.

[@MachineCode0]

@JAZINITY except the XSens suits tracking quality is hyper accurate and reliable. Although it's probably overpriced for the hardware as it's targeted at enterprise and enterprise stuff is always madly overpriced.

[@MachineCode0]

@JAZINITY Yeah I'm aware of the absurdly inflated price of enterprise targeted, well anything really. That's why I mentioned it. But I've seen video and reviews of SlimeVR trackers (like Thrill's video) and I've seen plenty of content using XSens and there is a night and day difference in tracking quality, regardless of the inflated price issue.

[@Derpynewb]

Theres a not well known kickstarter called shockwave vr and it's exactly that. It's been in development for a while though. Issue is they were supposed to release it of june last year. However they did post an update recently to say they've finally shipped. There are pictures of the product in a lot of stages. I hope its legit.

[@MachineCode0]

@JAZINITY Yes, infact you did. Seems in the same way I mentioned in my first comment that XSens is probably overpriced. I think we're talking past each other a bit, but it seems we are on the same page. The limitations of text conversion maybe. I get you anyway, please don't interpret my lack of skill in writing as negativity. 😁

[@ericbazinga]

Haritora could definitely be made compatible with Quest standalone if they made an SDK that could be integrated into games themselves, basically circumventing the need to implement it on an OS level. It wouldn't be compatible with every game but could be compatible with games that support FBT. Seeing standalone VRchat Quest users with fullbody tracking would be whaaack.

[@ginatails]

And Blade and Sorcery Nomad would be on another level with FBT

[@ericbazinga]

@Mage Enderman I wouldn't count on VRchat implementing that. They tend to be extremely late to the party with new features.

[@XRWorkout]

We've been working together with SlimeVR tonget basic support into our game VRWorkout (Quest standalone). haritora could definitely do the same. BTW: SlimeVR no longer requires a windows PC. The latest server does run on Linux too and could run on a Raspberr Pi. So you could build something like the haritora yourself with a Pi as the central unit on your belt

[@sorlana]

slimevr users modded vr workout on quest 2 standalone to add FBT and it WORKED

[@XRWorkout]

@@sorlana It's actually in the official VRWorkout but just under experimental settings, so you can try it yourself if you have trackers

[@skypup-s1x]

Id love to see if you put on both slime vr and haritora at the same time and then compare the both by seeing how the offsets are in steam vr

[@suntake]

they both use the same IMU’s and with good enough slime calibration it would be probably about the same

[@GT-tj1qg]

Yeah this would have been an obviously good idea!

[@danielbennett4867]

not a bad idea

[@bravo._.3976]

bro what are you doing here

[@danielbennett4867]

@@bravo._.3976 Idk not being some fortnite goon asking dumb questions to nobody in particular because no one in the thread of this post is named bro.. Also as far as I and the guy GT we were agreeing with the poster it wasn't a bad idea to wear both trackers for a side by side comparison. What are you doing here Bro?

[@CobaltSpace]

On the expensive end of tracking, it would be neat if these non base station trackers could be auto calibrated and used as a fallback with basestation trackers.

[@FluorescentApe]

Or use basestations as correction if the trackers are way off. Like if you're under a blanket for 20 minutes and the trackers drift, it will be corrected once the basestations see the trackers out of place!

[@theoriginalrandomman]

do you mean in case of occlusion? Because in theory, you could probably write software that uses the raw IMU data from vive trackers to do effectively the same thing.

[@kaydacant]

@@theoriginalrandomman I doubt it would be very accurate because Haritora X and Slime both have 5 trackers and i assume all 5 are needed to keep it accurate

[@zig131]

This is the idea behind Stonx tracking. Vive trackers are designed to track arbitrary objects (people have stuck them on cameras to track camera movements into a CG scene!) so they are incapable of making any assumptions or educated guesses once they loose line of sight. Stonx is an outside-in tracking solution designed first-and-foremost for full body tracking so it can take into consideration the limited range of motion of the human body and fall back on IMU and human model tracking when line-of-sight to the beacons is lost.

[@gyroninjamodder]

@@kaydacant So just use 5 of your steamvr trackers then.

[@zac7757]

Always look forward to Thrills videos! So glad they are making affordable software for everyone!

[@RepostCollection]

Too bad they won't be out until 2023

[@Jinx1927]

I'd love to see this compatible on Oculus Quest Standalone, it really is a bummer that the quest is so restrictive.

[@terminator6842]

Had a pretty good experience recently with virtual desktop. Barely any issues whatsoever

[@floppademon1506]

@@terminator6842 yep, I always play my games through it now

[@Thezuule1]

It isn't restrictive as much as just not super powerful. Many Q2 games are already pushing the limits of the hardware and don't have a lot of power left over. You can quite literally sideload anything you could ever want onto the device so I don't think restrictive is the right word.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Although it's just Bluetooth connected, I feel the quest 2 doesn't have the processing power under the hood to utilize the additional sensor calculations.

[@jmatzgames]

@@Thezuule1 Tbh, its restrictive in my opinion. We don't have games like Alyx or Boneworks natively.

[@JHess]

for the chest module slippage, i might recommend picking up a cheap pair of clip on suspenders.

[@cheyennebarrett429]

Im going to sew a "bra" strap on it lol

[@Gentle_Chu]

One thing id like to see as a laser tracking user is a hybrid system. Where if you have all the trackers required (5+) and they get obscured by a blanket the system would automatically switch to a IMU only mode. That way you could get the best of both worlds (except price ofcourse). Dont see it happening any time soon but would be cool

[@viken3368]

Frankly Im suprised its not been done already, either on controllers or trackers. Cause IMUs are pretty cheap and as some controllers (like q2) already have a gyro its not something that isnt thought about. The main reason the price is high for IMU only tracking is the software, mainly the calibration and estimations. Which would be avoided with a hybrid system.

[@moonut9643]

@@viken3368 yeah but for acceptable tracking you would need 5+ trackers. 3 wouldn't cut it. Good ideas doe for the people who have more than 3 trackers is suppose

[@viken3368]

@@moonut9643 ? 3 trackers is what is considered fbt today. And if you're talking how IMU systems use 5+ to work that's not the same. They need 5+ for the calibration, and for a hybrid with the IMUs as a fallback they wouldn't calibrate from the IMU but the base stations when in sight,

[@zig131]

That is exactly what Stonx tracking is planned to be. Right now they are perfecting the IMU-only body model (i.e. slime-like) tracking but further down the line there will be 'beacons' that can track the 'cookies' outside-in. The original version of Stonx was an outside-in tracking solution (albeit 180 degrees) so the dev knows what they are doing.

[@Gentle_Chu]

@@viken3368 using the fallback system as compensation for a single or dual loss of tracking situation could work with 3 trackers. But of we are talking about a situation where all trackers are covered by a blanket or the like 5 tracker imus wouæd be needed to maintain tracking like haritora or slime

[@jakethebarcode]

Never stop with the full body tracking videos, I can’t get enough!

[@genericchannelname3172]

I absolutely love the fact that your blanket was a second sky blanket, I knew you were a quality human but that just sealed the deal

[@DaniFewell]

awesome a new video! thanks thrill, you're the reason I wanna go into electronic engineering!

[@meepbeepp9509]

Man this feels absolutely amazing to hear, being a quest user and just seeing that ill be able to have full body tracking for the quest 2 is just amazing

[@Jestloo]

My brother, my best friend, and I all got ours. We love it. We all have Quest 2 headsets connected to PC, and we didn’t want to dump a crazy amount of money just to go full body in VRChat. It works great! We’ve had no big issues. Battery last FOREVER. 10 hours without charging, but if you’re sitting you can plug in and it charges stupid fast. There is a slow drift after a bit, but recalibrating takes seconds. For less than $300 without buying a new headset? Love it.

[@Jestloo]

I use Airplay, so it’s really fun to be totally cordless, and have full body tracking~

[@MMau9152]

Mine is coming soon, I’m so excited.

[@pokimane9371]

Thank you!

[@sheepish2159]

I can't wait for them to open orders again. The chip shortage has decimated this hobby. :( If they don't ship to Canada soon I'm probably going to get a friend of mine in the US to ship them to me.

[@djcranejr.3045]

buy a kinect

[@supystatro8125]

@@djcranejr.3045 I personally would rather die.

[@bionicgerbil]

I was upgrading one of my slimes and apparently fried a BNO085.... I paid just under $100 for ONE! Granted, I paid for fast shipping but this is ridiculous. I actually started researching how to build an IMU... which as I have discovered.... is difficult.

[@zacharymedeiros9523]

They don’t ship to the US either right now. Ive been waiting for them to open up too.

[@nichasatummyache2510]

Unlike DJ Crane JR who suggested the literal worst hacky fbt method, try using a used Rift CV1 as a FBT method. I want to get the HaritoraX but im stuck with the CV1 for now. basically vive tracker level for ~$250

[@baroness5829]

This is really pretty hype. I've been waiting for your review of these and I think a purchase is in my future!

[@djcranejr.3045]

buy a kinect

[@CyborusYT]

Would be really interesting to see a system that used a hybrid of Haritora's method and laser tracking, to get the best of both worlds

[@agtviewer1190]

I think StonX would come next to being a hybrid.

[@CyborusYT]

@@agtviewer1190 Interesting. Side note, is that pronounced like "Stone Ex" or "Stonks"?

[@djcranejr.3045]

buy a kinect

[@CyborusYT]

@@djcranejr.3045 That doesn't have the ability to be occluded like Haritora

[@djcranejr.3045]

@@CyborusYT oh ok

[@hammadsheikh6032]

That’s so amazing. Totally getting one! Kicking in games, what a great idea. Nothing bad can come from getting immersed in a game and kicking around in your living room… :-)

[@lonestar98]

Fully body tracking seems so cool and like it really takes immersive experience to that next level. I wouldn't buy this one, but it's exciting to see that barrier to entry getting converging closer. I will casually jump into full body tracking when it becomes easy and seamless to setup at a price point under 100$. It's only a matter of time at this rate.

[@cenciende9401]

Well, half a decade is a very long wait...

[@goestheboom5211]

@@cenciende9401 not really

[@marsimplodation]

You can build a whole slimeset for under 100 bucks, but it won't be simple, since you would need to build it, pearn howto solder and so on

[@Thee_Titanis]

I am personally waiting for their Mutalk, hoping with the inevitable success of their FBT that the rest of their products will see the light of day one day!

[@kadensither1319]

So grateful for your videos. I’ve had vr for six years and was very much a casual consumer. I’ve always wanted to know more but there wasn’t enough out there to keep me engaged. You’re the reason I picked up my headset again in 2019. Thank you

[@wesleybeaman2877]

was litterally just thinking when a new thrill would release! keep up the good work.

[@rollizle]

Thrill and Phia told me to drop a comment so I'm here to support you Thrill!

[@ItzzzBeamo]

I've had the pre-order page saved as my homepage since your first video... *I WILL HAVE THIS*

[@owolou]

I pre ordered these before you ever made a video mentioning them loll. i cant wait to get them.

[@landonozzi2303]

Japanese people make some of the highest quality items I'm looking forward to seeing how far this goes!😁

[@Tre1in]

i can’t wait for someone to call you racist even though you aren’t lmaooo

[@corebite]

@@Tre1in you shouldn't have said that. That person will think twice now after reading your comment.

[@vidal9747]

Yes, make you wonder what cool tech is available in Japan, but not in the rest of the world.

[@danielbennett4867]

Japanese do make the highest quality items, look at their automobile engineering anything Honda or Toyota made can go over 500k miles easily. The only people that would call you a racist for the comment are some self-entitled white lady who thinks it's her job to challenge everyone elses oppression. Someone from Japan would take pride in you saying Japan makes the highest quality items.

[@danielbennett4867]

@@vidal9747 self cleaning public toilets

[@RetireandGo]

been waiting for this ! Excited ! Thank you as always Thrill :-)

[@ODISeth]

Thrill - “It’s here!” Shiftall’s store site - “No it’s not!”

[@The666VampireGirl]

100% of the time

[@blankblank4949]

i so desperately want to get into vr. Just waiting for the day that I can buy a setup, made by a company I respect, for money I can afford to burn. Its nice to see that there is a community that strongly believes in a version of the "metaverse" that doesn't ruin everything I like about it.

[@oggio47-_-46]

just bought mine cant wait for it to get here im soooooooo excited ahhaahha

[@SmugSpirit]

I use mine everyday! Hope you love it!

[@oggio47-_-46]

@@SmugSpirit thanks

[@Gatrax]

This is actually amazing. I was looking for FBT options that weren't going to be terrible or expensive and it just so happens that they ship next month at the time of me finding this video. I lucked out.

[@gabrielmartensson4425]

this is the way! I'll have to get this if i wanna keep myself from going wired with an index or something. I can't wait until "index 2" comes or whatever is acceptable as an upgrade from the quest 2, but this. this is a gamechanger!

[@zig131]

Wired > Wireless [and by Wired I mean native display-port - not Quest Wired which is super-compressed] Just get a pulley system - problem solved. Less latency, no worrying about battery, and the headset doesn't become e-waste when the battery dies so it will actually still have resale value when you are done with it.

[@gabrielmartensson4425]

@@zig131 unlinkVR, boom; hopefully.. i wanna be able to do feel free without dying by displayport around my neck

[@CarnisChampion]

it is amazing how translating software as advanced making the world a bit smaller but much more connected.

[@thatguystove755]

Love your videos man! Keep up the great work :)

[@DesuVR]

I've been waiting for this video! I pre-ordered mine in January and hope it lives up to expectations!

[@TheNoviceAnimator_]

Did you get it-

[@DesuVR]

@@TheNoviceAnimator_ I did and it's... fine, just fine.

[@OsgoodOG]

Too many wires and straps to tug, unplug and/or entangle in imo, but I am happy the tech and prices are improving!

[@theoriginalanimeker]

Been waiting for this video, thanks! After ur CES coverage, the 1st batch of preorders soldout in 2 days even though it was on preorder for weeks already..I won't let this happen again lol.

[@Deighvihd]

What do you think of using VR to prevent social isolation in hospitalized patient?

[@A_Storm_That_Isnt_Approaching]

Everybody is gangster until your power for your life support turns off for a second and you get sent to a land called Leadale

[@BobahTee]

coming from someone that has literally ONLY ever used kinect tracking, even something like haritora with all of its flaws is a godsend. ordered them a few weeks ago and are coming in a month or so after christmas which hey as long as i get them ill be happy. man i cant wait to be able to sit down without jitter...

[@thebutlah]

The SlimeVR community is working really hard on making it easy to use! Hopefully after another month or two we can get some really great ease of use updates for you 😊 To anyone passionate about VR and software, come help us make full body more accessible on our discord!

[@hastingsgames]

I've got a Slime pre-order in already and sooo looking forward to it! :)

[@kallmejp]

Watching this while playing nationals in volleyball(Norway). Love to see some content out by my fav KZbinr/streamer whilst not playing

[@johnsmithers284]

It seems like affordable full-body tracking is FINALLY here every couple of months now

[@Glowbuggo]

Indeed.

[@djcranejr.3045]

no, it's been here since 2009 and it wasn't even made for VR but you can use it for vr and it's $20 for the 1st version which needs an adapter to connect to a pc ($5 for the kinect standalone) and $50 which is an all-in-one experience with better tracking and doesn't need an adapter

[@ToddlerKitten]

I think I'm going to get this!! Thank you for the awesome video! I have been looking for a while now for FBT for Quest2/PCVR. So excited!!

[@JAYZ999]

Yup I agree with thrill. I have a lot of Japanese friends in VRC that I dance with. Don’t get this if you 1. Want to dance heavily in VR 2. Have base stations already. The little bit you’ll save is not worth it. The movements aren’t 1:1. At least that’s what my Japanese friends have said. Get this if 1. you can’t get cheaper used base stations 2. only want FBT for more casual use/sitting etc. 3. You want it for sleeping in VR

[@stormvr1070]

Exactly. I dance every night and need the laser tracked accuracy.

[@404rocket]

Finally i can get full body tracking! Also amazing video keep it up! First

[@ginatails]

There should be a method of FBT that tracks in the same way that Quest 2 controllers do, with IR lights. You could have a small external sensor that tracks the lights (basically just the Quest 2 cameras but separate from the Quest 2), and if the external sensor is relatively close to the FBT trackers, it should work well.

[@danielbennett4867]

you'd have to place another set of cameras facing downwards on the quest because the current bottom cameras couldn't pick those up.

[@zig131]

It's a real shame that Oculus abandoned Constellation (i.e. Rift CV1) tracking which is exactly what you refer to. The Rift CV1 sensors are relatively low resolution IR webcams so are vastly cheaper and more durable than lighthouses. They provide really good tracking accuracy. Driver 4 VR actually provides an option to provide full-body tracking to a non-Oculus headset using the sensors and controllers from a Rift CV1. There is an option to use 3 controllers which suggest Constellation is capable of tracking more points than it would do in a regular setup.

[@quipsilvervr]

I just got my 360Kinect VR FBT working today and now that I've seen this video, I'm absolutely gonna upgrade to this so I don't have to sell my body to buy Vive Trackers. The timing of this video was perfect!

[@JNX07]

As a Kinect v2 user with driver4vr, I'm in the same boat here haha 270 is definitely attainable after some time

[@quipsilvervr]

@@JNX07 Ha, yeah man, Kinect is kinda decent, but I find it super unreliable, and given that the HaritioraX is like 20% the price of Vive trackers, I think once these trackers are back in stock, I'm gonna order them. Soon as I had a taste of fullbody, I knew I had to upgrade no matter what.

[@blushftprotogen]

welp, now i just gotta wait for the restock looks awesome :D

[@bookuss7405]

Just got notified mine arrives Friday. ^^ just gonna keep rewatching this and drooling until then

[@Epicking607]

Once you get it can I get a breakdown on it? I plan on getting it as well but I’m not sure until I hear it from people that buy it legit, would appreciate the feedback and thank you ❤️

[@ShadowWolfe]

The only reason I'm not too fond of this tracking setup is because it doesn't seem like there's anything that tracks the waist. Just the chest and legs. Plus all those velcro straps look like they'd risk getting caught in something if someone likes to be energetic with their movements.

[@stormvr1070]

Exactly. How am I going to wiggle my hips my dancing?

[@baardnaap]

@@stormvr1070 you clearly just want to twerk

[@tyuniversal]

so cool glad you shared it with us!

[@ralf7823]

Hey Thril, can't you make a website where you keep a few lists of what are in your eyes the best off.... like best headset, trackers, suit, treadmill, force feedback, etc.. Just a list that you keep up to date. Because searching this all can be a real maze of information. And if you are not really all the way into the scene. It can be really time consuming to find out. This will also cut down on ppl asking the same questions over and over again.

[@Grefuzzle]

true, he should do this!

[@viken3368]

Its an awesome idea, but due to the huge amount of use cases and budgets all headsets have their spot. Q2: cheapest, Reverb V2: Amazing visuals for price, Index: generally good with finger tracking, etc. So the best case I would say is ask people, tell them your situation and everything. That will always be the easiest and best way to get recomendations

[@MachineCode0]

That's a great idea, I just posted a comment on this thread asking about what the story is with software updates for the tundra trackers. Because like you say even if there are reviews (and thrill has reviewed them), there tends to be previews and then ones when they come out but then any mentions of updates later might be buried in other videos. So if you're looking for the current day snapshot or waiting for updates to make some get that final bit of development before you buy it's really hard to tell where things stand after a while.

[@CypressConroy]

I’ve been waiting for a review of this or anything on it

[@LMisHere]

I wish HaritoraX was able to ship in countries other than the US. I’m in Canada, I started saving up as soon as I heard of these things. And then I realized it was US only. :(

[@idkanymore878]

I feel your pain

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

Maybe there's a proxy service or you could have a friend relay it?

[@brasileiroloko5375]

theres a bunch of proxy services maa dude

[@_-Ruki-_]

Sold out - I'm always late to the party - thanks for the great vid Thrill

[@ahkando]

It's back on sale

[@_-Ruki-_]

@@ahkando Thank you!

[@Skikopl]

combining this with the CV1 and you have a cable clusterf*** of a VR setup xD Jokes aside this is awesome!

[@joko49perez]

Lmao

[@themysticbiscuit6862]

Thats also pretty nice for someone like me who doesnt have the space required to even use the base stations to begin with. Thats the reason i bought a quest 2 instead of an index. It really seems like vr is finally getting alot of cool new stuff thats accessible to people that previously couldnt afford it or the means to use it. And thats awesome

[@MrHocotateFreight]

Hmm..I love the full body, it will definitely make vr more realistic, but I wonder how having extra clothes on effects gameplay. I'm honestly down to not much in vr to keep cool, overheating blinds me mid gorilla tag run or mid blade and sorcery spree

[@NikoSource]

This is exciting!!

[@Cosplay-Gamer]

sadly HaritoraX doesn't ship to Canada. so i don't have much of choice for affordable fbt, so i'm willing to jump through hoops in with Slime VR. i can only hope by the time it comes out in late Nov, the kinks of setting it up will be mostly gone

[@TheRubyMoon]

I had to make the order’s adress my American friends, sad that it doesn’t ship directly to Canada. They did however have a mention and question about it on their Twitter recently scouting how many VR users were in Canada.

[@paolaanimator]

I'm in the United States but sadly it looks like HaritoraX is sold out, I've been checking out their social media and website, so I bought Slime VR trackers full body as well, since my only headset is Quest 2 I bought a while back and I don't have any base stations or VIVE trackers. Slime VR trackers is still up for pre-order at least and available so I bought it now while I can.

[@SharpWitted]

It’s about to go down people! 🔥🔥🔥🔥ready player one ☝️

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

Hey Thrill, question for QoTW: with the OSC update on VRChat, do you think full body tracking can be achieved by having a phone crushing the numbers and doing the software part, then sending it to the Quest 2? Love your videos!

[@InventingThings]

I have sooo been looking forward to this video, and I find out Thrillseeker is a Porter Robinson fan!! Even better!!!

[@ilyHate.]

does anyone know when these will be available for purchase again and if they plan on being shipped worldwide anytime soon ?

[@duomatrix379]

Hard to say when. When I last checked a few days ago, they were being scalped for like 600+ dollars over in Japan.

[@ilyHate.]

@@duomatrix379 oh great ;(( hopefully they become more available soon

[@pastelthedevil2662]

I for one can't wait to get my hands on these and start using them for development. I feel like FBT in gaming has far more potential than is immediately apparent. However, I'm sure that, as is the case for myself, many indie developers and aspiring creators don't have the resources to put towards FBT equipment and integration. I look forward to both this product and slime vr helping to get this kind of technology into the hands of creative people who might not have had access otherwise.

[@TikkaQrow]

SlimeVR > Haritora Tho, ideally, they both use the BNO08X IMU chips, so it's probably more a preference in design than anything. Also, you updated SlimeVR server and firmware, yes?

[@deddrz2549]

I mean, I wouldn't want my batteries completely giving out like both of Thrill's sets have, which seems like a major issue to have

[@Nilloc777]

That is probably not a problem anymore since those preproduction trackers where probably using any random batteries found off Amazon. Bad lips die fast, the one I use use in my set are old beat up drone batteries and are still lasting 10-12 hours after being at end of life for drone usage

[@kodiuk]

Yooo new vid from the best VR creator :D

[@8BitShadow]

The delay is probably because it's saving a lot of diagnostic data in the background, pretty normal for pre-release stuff. As for the polling rate (how smooth it ends up looking in movements and how well it can capture quick movement) that might be getting limited purely due to the diag data again, but it also might just be the limit of the hardware. Regardless the software could 'interpolate' the movements (by creating data points between the polling) by simply lerping the movements, should looks nice and smooth - though not as accurate - as pretty much any top brand tracker. Would probably add an extra 0.5-1ms of delay but that's really not that bad. I imagine the release will still have some delay but probably not nearly as much. Did the one you test at GX seem smoother? If it did then they've clearly already got a switch that they can just flick to turn off diag data collection and should turn out to be roughly the same as the release version.

[@duckyishappy]

The software isn''t pre-release. The product is already out in japan. Its Bluetooth. Bluetooth (accept for QC AptX) has horrible latency which causes the delay. There isn't a whole lot software can do to fix it.

[@Novur]

The SECOND it works with standalone, I'm sold

[@Jade-gk3xm]

while I like the idea of Haritora, I feel like all of the loose wires and straps connecting all of the trackers would get snagged a lot

[@djcranejr.3045]

buy a kinect

[@TheRubyMoon]

And be only “180 degree” no under blanket tracking? Nah. There are ways to not get annoyed by short wires.

[@zig131]

I mean you've got a choice - you can just throw the Haritora X on quickly and easily in which case it is messy and you risk snags. Or, for a long/important session, you could take the time to cable manage it. Thrill clearly went for the first option but nothing stopping someone from buying some elastic straps and cable-tying the leads at the correct length for their body. Or could go a step further and make your own ethernet cables that are the perfect length for you.

[@whyboosted3139]

Can't wait to get my hands on these I ordered these in January and can't be more excited

[@Manuel-ne5qt]

all of this just for people to lay down in a vr game as an anime character in front of a virtual mirror

[@eurocalypse]

No worries about your videos not coming up. Your subscribers got your back.

[@Atlas_966]

I think every VR KZbinr makes at least one video per month that is something like "AFFORDABLE FULL BODY TRACKING IS OUT NOW!!! FOR EVERYONE!", but there is always something that messes up, or there is one little tick about it that is bad. Its just annoying that many of the KZbinrs that I watch that do VR and this stuff always say the same thing over and over for FBT. There is never one that is perfect, affordable, and works for everyone, so stop clickbaiting people by saying "FOR EVERYONE", when for most people, it is NOT for everyone.

[@Atlas_966]

Like a broken record so to say.

[@corebite]

Well what you say is true. But i do think that eventually, out of all those failed ones, one good one will pop up. And who knows, maybe it's this one. Time will tell.

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

There’s really only been slime and this in terms of affordable fbt for most users (Tundra isn’t any cheaper than Vive, it’s not affordable lmao) this is the cheapest *good* FBT I have seen.

[@Atlas_966]

@@ThrillSeekerVR Good point.

[@Atlas_966]

@@corebite Mhm.

[@yofwill]

I will keep contacting this company monthly until more are in stock. Thanks for informing us ThrillSeeker!

[@ahkando]

theyre back

[@bennziji9302]

@@ahkando andddd now theyre gone:/.

[@NoahLyman-z7c]

bro, No PC required. HaritoraX series can be used with the Quest stand-alone application e.g. VRChat if its the wireless one.

[@Nottrules]

This is 2 years old bro

[@BillardFromSL]

This is sick, I think I might finally take the FBT plunge with this product.

[@hendriceckardt5978]

this is one of the things i cant wait for just like the owo skin. its great year for vr tech

[@JenTheTG]

Thanks for covering stuff like this thrill

[@VanlifeReality]

Man you got it omg yayyyyyyy. Just had to change my shipping address on my order so I expect mine to take a bit longer

[@cx5_]

great vid, big hopes for the people I'll meet on vrc in the future

[@XciterD]

The use of Ethernet cables is really nice as you can very easily make your own that are the perfect length.

[@ywjsiabvue]

i have also been waiting for this video ;)

[@moohooman]

I'm so glad to here this. I was watching it really closely during CES and couldn't find any info after. The only problem is I live in Australia, so I can't get one yet (also the whole sold out thing), like I even messaged them asking if they had any plans to release it in Australia a few months back and got a no. Hope it keeps going successfully, because I would love an international release.

[@Gtune8]

hoping it gets restocked sooner than later, definitely something I'm gonna end up buying at some point

[@straightchillin9594]

It's sold outtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt....and adorable in my budget, awesome video btw :) thanks for the info!

[@LuminousIris]

Here I am collecting different tracking equipment for different purposes, I just love it!!

[@0x0079]

One thing I've been thinking about since I first saw slime and Haritora is IMUs being used as a fallback for lasers. It would of course help with occlusion but might also be able to help with drift due to the lasers being reflected, and of course would allow the high-precision of lasers but also the ability to be under something like a blanket.

[@zig131]

​@@Quayledant The original version of Stonx was an outside-in/~base-station tracking solution - albeit 180 degrees - so Anton does clearly know what he is doing.

[@zig131]

Steam/Vive tracking is designed to track arbitrary objects rather than specifically human bodies. There are already good IMUs in the Vive/Tundra trackers that assist the laser tracking. However the only reason IMU-only solutions like Slime VR work, is that they can rely on the headset being an accurately tracked position and can assume that the points being tracked can only deviate from the headset in ways allowed by the limits of human movement i.e. your torso and legs are attached to your head. Steam does not make this assumption. You can see this if you leave your controller on a table and walk away in Steam VR home - your "hand" will end up an improbably long distance away from you. I think Valve - and HTC at the time - preferred a more open and flexible solution and to some extent it has paid off. People have put a tracker on a camera to allow people to "film" a CG scene with realistic/analogue camera work. But it does mean to get "hybrid" full-body-tracking it is necessary to start from scratch and that is what Stonx is doing.

[@emanuel3617]

Bro, I love this song you're using at the end of your videos lol

[@ThrillSeekerVR]

It’s mine :D

[@emanuel3617]

@@ThrillSeekerVR what!? Like, like, really???? That's so cool! Goodjob!

[@Virtualized]

Nice Porter Robinson blanket there :p Theses trackers look amazing! I wish I can test them out someday!

[@sultanofsick]

I hope this drives more games using full body. I don't VRchat, but I would LOVE if my chest/waist in game didn't fly away from my IRL chest/waist or get locked in a stupid rotation when I'm trying to reload. Also imagining full body in Jet Island and actually turning with legs and feet like an actual surfboard.

[@Sobek-khufu]

Oh my god... My mans is a Porter fan? Respect.

[@PartyRockerOG]

The amount of times I’ve heard this from this channel is actually hilarious

[@chris_is_here_oh_no]

Great video, looks like something to look forward to.

[@poutrewZ]

It's finally here for the 4th time!!

[@Jxyc3]

im definitely buying this when its back in stock!

[@ReavoEnd]

Great to see! Hopefully HaritoraX will be available, at all...

[@ed_samoy]

Japan takes things extremely serious if it's related to hent... VR cyber world immersions. Shiftall, Haritorax's manufacturer was a small company and a potential "next Oculus" in the eyes of Meta, props to Panasonic for providing a financial shield for them. I already have 3 vive trackers but still hyped for the upcoming MeganeX, the world seems to be in a *hitstorm recently but what an era to live!

[@DoctorTheo]

Seeing how Tundra isn't out yet and probably not coming soon, this would be amazing

[@Reckless-02]

I bought the wireless version of haritorax and what sucks is I’m currently just stuck on pairing it within the oculus quest 2 bluetooth, standalone no pc. 🤷

[@Rathios]

i just wanna say, i love your Lena wallpaper on your monitor