Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg speaks on the Privileges Committee Special Report

Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg's contribution during the debate 'Privileges Committee Special Report' on Monday 10th July 2023.

[@MeadeSkeltonMusic]

The most beautiful English spoken !

[@theingabo212]

This is actually spot on, and I couldn't have said it better myself. Why isn't the whole conservative party behind this wonderful speech?

[@martynlockhart8634]

This man could talk a glass eye to sleep 🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂

[@johannesnicolaas]

Ah Rees-Fogg... always good for an early bowel movement.... works perfectly.

[@johnnotrealname8168]

First and only 13 minutes late, what is going on in Parliament? It is always good to find out.

[@newerzealand2858]

The wonderful Mr mogg Should be the name of a household children's book Dr suess perhaps

[@richardlodge8594]

No-one Is Interested Anymore Jacob

[@harbzsquadings2277]

u mean no1 has been interested for the last decade now 🤣

[@stuffthings3728]

Jacob rees-mogg... The answer to the question. What if siblings has children?

[@saltney17]

resign now

[@haatpraat2993]

History will look back at this guy as being a main proponent of arguably the greatest political mistake the UK has ever made - Brexit. The negative ramifications of Brexit are already being felt while so far there has been next to nothing in the way of benefits to the UK.

[@eamonngaines9887]

Brexit? Seriously? It's 2023, 7 years later, Remain lost and the world has moved on. Sooner or later, even you will have to move on too...

[@haatpraat2993]

@@eamonngaines9887 I have moved on. I no longer live in the UK. I now live in the Netherlands. In fact I brought my wife and kids along with me to live in the Netherlands. I've have even learned to speak Dutch. Meanwhile, the UK is coming out of COVID at least 1/3 of the rate of the rest of the EU, interest rates are spiraling towards levels not seen since the the late 1970s, MANY companies in the City of London have moved over here to Amsterdam and to Dublin and Frankfurt - I drink with these ex City of London employees most Friday nights in Amsterdam. Traditional unemployment blackspots that were held up for decades because foreign companies investing in the UK because of access to Europe i,e the north-east are now looking to pull out and reset in the EU. Oh, I forgot, BREXIT could even lead to Northern Ireland joining the Irish Republic just to remain part of the EU. God only knows what the Scots are going to do if they ever get a chance to have a new referendum considering they voted overwhelmingly to remain and were literally dragged out of the EU against their will. Ja, Inderdaad. Ik ga door met de EU / --- Yes, I have moved on. I'm enjoying life with the Cloggies. Thanks for asking, though.

[@paulmes7667]

@@haatpraat2993 Yes seven years on and not a happy bunny, even though you are living in a foreign land. One thing that has never been satisfactorily explained to me is why when a significant majority of the people who voted to join the EU in the Wilson Referndum, they changed their minds and, as many surveys have shown, those still alive voted overwhelmingly to leave? But this misses the point of Mr Rees-Moggs speech; becaue what he says cannot be gainsayed. Tot ziens!

[@haatpraat2993]

@@paulmes7667 What is there to be happy about regarding Brexit ? What I find pertinent is looking at Denmark. The Danes had a very strong anti-EU sentiment. However looking at the effects of Brexit on Britain, you no longer hear a peep out of the Danes regarding leaving the EU anymore.

[@haatpraat2993]

@@user-ll2je4kc4f Thanks. However, Brexit has torpedoed the future prospects of the UK. It is clearly evident Britain is sinking. Interest rates are sky-rocketing, mass unemployment is beginning to rear its ugly head, there are stirrings in the provinces in which many are anxiously looking to the EU as a live raft. Many high income UK people have already abandoned ship and are now sipping champagne with their new Maltese and Cypriot passports. All, I'm doing is watching from the shore in the Netherlands in utter shock as some British locals try desperately to bail out Britain with water buckets.

[@saltney17]

not good enough

[@themuttsrightnut]

I really like your brain and the way you move. As im getting older i am getting more and more into in politics. I dont know enough to decide which party to vote for but i did vote for labouyt once to spite my daighters dad 😮 ive grown since then. So i would like to know, is there a place in politics for people at the bottom of the food chain. I guess id be classed as a chav, but i try to carry myself like a non violent lady. I think i pull it off. I digress. Long short is where do i go to learn more??

[@Anonymous-gf6ob]

Not by any party. The problem with politics is there is A LOT of money we dont see, no party will say no to money because it's ultimately what funds them. If you're not in London, you're forgotten in parliment.

[@themuttsrightnut]

@@Anonymous-gf6ob that's handy because I live in London but I haven't got no cash so I guess I've got no say :( that's pretty sad

[@Anonymous-gf6ob]

@@themuttsrightnut Aye it's all good, I was just saying that areas outside of London are mostly deprived of any attention and funding... I think the official figure was "levelling up" deprived areas north (which basically means not London) got 1/3 the funding housing immigrants did. There is PLENTY of cash to better the country, but shitty contracts from corrupt faces take a lot of it.

[@CaminoAir]

An utterly dishonest and opportunistic speech.

[@billbogg3857]

So where is he wrong?

[@badbooks476]

@CaminoAir. Spot on comment 👍

[@saltney17]

@@billbogg3857 cry

[@CaminoAir]

@@billbogg3857 You'd think that any politician would have the sense of self-preservation to distance themselves from Johnson by this stage. JRM is trying to appeal to die-hard elements in the Tory Party and Conservative media. That's opportunism.

[@billbogg3857]

@@CaminoAir My question was: Where is he wrong?. He makes two killer points. @2.47 he asks why the committee selectively chose the earlier precedent over the later one. In our judicial system the later judgment takes precedence over earlier ones. They cannot just be ignored. Then @6.32 he raises the question of the bias of the Chairman as demonstrated in her tweets. Later demonstrated I thought at 3.00.00 in the Privileges Committee proceedings where she launched her own attack on Johnson. As he says the suspicion of bias should automatically disqualify her. If these two principles are not followed, then the judicial system of this country falls apart so why do they not apply in the House of Commons which is the highest court in the land? What undermines the reputation of the H of C is that only seven members were able to lay aside their prejudices and see things as they really stand. It fully justifies his description of it as a Kangaroo Court or as I would call it a Star Chamber.

[@socdsxh]

This guy just enjoys his own voice and like the most objectionable drunks is unable recognise when much of what he is saying bears little reference to the topic under discussion. That being, a committee that was appointed unanimously, to adjudicate on the behaviours of the then Prime Minister and found him to be guilty of breaking his own rules and then lying about it.. His only defence was that he did not understand his own rules and nor, allegedly, did the advisors that advised him. And yet the rest of the country generally understood and complied with the rules. Even I, brought out of retirement to cover a position in social services during the worst part of Covid. As an ordinary manager within the council had to tell my staff they could not celebrate the promotion of a colleague. If you are unable to discredit the legitimacy of the conclusions of the Committee then attempt to discredit the individuals involved and this is what these Boris sycophants did.

[@billbogg3857]

If a judge shows their bias beforehand in a court case that they are judging everyone would agree that they should stand down. So why did this not apply to Harriet Harman whose tweet had shown her bias. The Privileges Committee was there to judge him for recklessly and knowingly misleading parliament not for disobeying his own rules at No10 as you say. They offered no proof of this. The best they could do was to say that he should have asked the opinion of the senior law officer. He had however asked the opinion of legally qualified people at No10 who were actually there for their opinion. The legitimacy of the committee was further undermined by one of its members attending a birthday party for himself in the House of Commons in the same period. I don't think it is the job of the Prime Minister to make sure that the rules in his office are observed. It would be as you point out the job of the manager such as yourself in your council. He has other things to do like running the country. I don't like Boris Johnson much but the hypocrisy of the privileges committee I find far worse than anything he did.

[@socdsxh]

​@@billbogg3857 I think you are overlooking that Harriet Harman shared her concern regarding the Tweets and suggested that she should recuse herself given the circumstances. The overwhelming balance of opinion confirmed her capacity of arriving at a balanced opinion confirmed by the weight of Tory MPs who supported the report. I would also point you to the impassioned speech by Laura Farris. Conservative MP. It may be that judges don't show bias in the vast majority of cases, but they do have to restrain their own views and basic prejudices in providing guidance to juries. Interesting that you say, 'The Privileges Committee was there to judge him for recklessly and knowingly misleading parliament not for disobeying his own rules at No10'. Unless I have it wrong the inference of what you are saying is that my focus on the parties were disconnected from the subsequent Privilege Report. However, you would not have had one without the other unless of course he had proceeded to have been caught in misleading Parliament on another occasion. As to your comment that they offered no proof I do find that statement astonishing and wonder whether you have had an overdose of JRM. Have you read the Privileges Committee report and listened to BJ give his statement to the committee? He condemns himself through his own defence. There are several occurrences within the report where at the very least the threshold of ‘Beyond Reasonable Doubt’ is reached and other occasions I would argue it is surpassed. Paragraph 187 et al. I also find it incredulous that you don’t think it is not the job of a Prime Minister to make sure that the rules in his office were observed. He was often on TV stating that we all had a responsibility to one another to ensure that the rules were observed and would often remind us what the rules were and yet amazingly, like his Pin for his mobile, he seems to have forgotten them. Apart from the formal framework for assessing a person’s integrity we should all learn you can only cry ‘Wolf’ so many times. Finally, I am most grateful for your reply to my initial response to JRM droning on in defending the indefensible as it has reinforced my initial thoughts on him. Moreover, I similarly feel antipathy towards those others, in the front bench, who formerly and currently repeatedly promulgate misinformation, to Parliament, to the media, to the public and currently perpetuate policies that have bankrupted the country both economically and morally.

[@badbooks476]

@@socdsxh Great reply showing the full reality of the situation 👍

[@eamonngaines9887]

Excellent! With a masterly peroration.

[@kevinfisher1632]

You are by all means the greatest mind in parliament at the moment i adore hearing you speak, so clear and concise and to the point . Why have we not had the likes of yourself in charge of our Government.

[@MariaPerez-uv8mm]

yup, I am wondering the same thing :-) and I am not even from your glorious country!

[@reemul2001]

Because he is a moral black hole?

[@bnlbnl8892]

Get lost !

[@mikestanley3219]

A wonderful speech, I was only sorry Sir Jacob couldnt have carried on for a further hour or two.

[@benenty692]

Very good speach