Dear Game Theory: This is a Robot Kid Intervention.

[@shyguymike]

I love how we have an entire story about a kid thinking he's a rabot despite not being one, yet that's the "robot kid" story MatPat refuses to mention.

[@shyguymike]

@Ethan Bullock Does he? Must have missed it, what video was it?

[@kksmith2282]

Lol that's true. Great point.

[@bobbypole579]

Hes talked about it loads of times lol

[@syweb2]

@@bobbypole579 Has he? I have zero recollection of it, it sounds like the kind of thing I would remember unless it was a _very_ off-handed remark.

[@agentboi4794]

​@@bobbypole579when?

[@mufeet]

That’s a really good point actually. “If Gregory is a robot, why doesn’t Afton just control him to just… idk smash his head into the wall?”

[@Evan_Name]

Well because Gregory is not connected to the Network that glitctrap is using

[@danielroberts8049]

@@Evan_Namelmao the cope

[@Evan_Name]

@@danielroberts8049 what-

[@Crystal-pro-2024]

​@@Evan_Name freddy also isn't, he's in safe mode, yet burntrap can still get through to him

[@kingofcrap4414]

@Evan_Name I agree, it would be really hard for a human to be connected to a robot network.

[@LadyBernkastel92]

I like how patient 46 is the only character in the entire franchise to have had a good family.

[@soomi5667]

This is so true. It’s funny and sad at the same time 😭..

[@ivebenhere1843]

He has a great family and gets pissed when his therapists bring it up to him. His mummy told him to get off the Xbox once and it broke him.

[@YourAverageMop]

Didn't one the kids in the Stitchwraith story have a really good family and died peacefully?

[@moltenfreddy1995]

​@@YourAverageMopoh you mean Jake?

[@MeemahSN]

@@moltenfreddy1995 Jake did have loving parents, but his home life wasn’t good. His dad was always out and wasn’t there when he passed away. His mum isn’t in the picture from what I can remember, and he’s suffering from cancer. Doesn’t sound like a good time.

[@sketchpixels6255]

You know what really gets me about MatPat's latest theory? He brings up the fact Gregory has stiff and delayed movements as evidence that he is a robot, but you know what's also not a human? Glitchtrap. Gregory's weird roboticness could just be the result of the Glitchtrap virus processing Gregory (like ness in the AR emails) and having difficulties manipulating Gregory's body since he's a smaller human kid while Glitchtrap is an AI. The whole "wizard's favorite apprentice" thing could just mean that Gregory is Glitchtrap's favorite person to possess.

[@YourMid740]

Glitchtrap is literally William’s Afton body in a physical shape of a glitch, no robotics involved.

[@sketchpixels6255]

@@YourMid740 True! i kinda got AI and robot mixed up, but the main point still stands

[@RS-yk7xh]

Exactly, it's the same reason why Vanny skips and frolics around just like Glitchtrap in Help Wanted

[@THGMR-ox7sd]

Glitchtrap isn’t a robot at all

[@sketchpixels6255]

@Grim Weed oh no, the stiff and delayed movements isn't referring to Security Breach. It is from the Tales From The Pizzaplex story "GGY" where (now that I'm looking back it) Gregory cocks his head to the side when people do odd things and has weird pauses sometimes. It's debatably robotic behavior, but like cocking your head to the side when something odd happens is just a thing that people do they are confused.

[@pinetreemallard486]

5:13 You know, at this point I'm genuinely unsure as to why Henry couldn't have just built an army of terminators to solve his problems.

[@sanrusdyne]

Well if he did that then he would have to build a robot that hurts and kills his *own daughter* As opposed to current Canon where he just kidnaps and tortures her

[@ivebenhere1843]

They would probably get possessed and kill him. I'm convinced the knife endo that killed Henry in the books was just a robot he made to cut his iconic meats and sandwiches and it just accidentally killed him one day.

[@bluestrangler0447]

Fun for the whole family

[@AlexPastGrey]

Henry casually making the Separatist army in his basement

[@gaminganimators7000]

​@@sanrusdynehe doesn't torture her. He uses a steady electric flow to calm her down. It's not an electric shock like people describe it

[@iconicweirdguy8678]

At this pont the only way to convince people that Gregory isnt a robot is if he gets ripped open in Ruin and we can see if he has any robot parts inside

[@according_response1799]

even then, there will still be people arguing about it

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

Yeah that would instantly make RUIN the best entry in the series having a M-18+ rating

[@klaykid117]

"Security bots disassemble Gregory"

[@ivebenhere1843]

He isn't a robot he's made of Fazgoo

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

@@ivebenhere1843 lol

[@ivebenhere1843]

I feel like the biggest problem with the books is that hardly anyone reads them, so you can very easily gaslight people into believing the book confirmed one of your theories and pick a few lines with little to no context and people will believe it. (Not that that's a big deal or anything but it does make discussion on the books hard) There was a part in Mat's newest video where he took a random line that mentioned the original Mimic having a hinged-jaw and somehow that helped prove that Edwin is 100% Henry; but most animatronics have hinged-jaws, I don't think Henry's characters having hinged-jaws is an important detail at all. Not that I think Mat was 100% wrong in his recent video I'm just bringing that up because I feel like Game Theory has a tendency to overuse small details like that and then ignore more obvious, and more clearly intentional details. The best way I can describe it is conformation bias

[@higueraft571]

Hilariously, as one theory had pitched... A trait of Henry's animatronics would be that they do NOT have Hinged/more complex jaws, and function more off Hydraulics (eg Fredbear, Chica, Rockstars + Lefty, Mediocre Melodies, etc). Though, it did rely on the Mediocre Melodies being Henry's, and his "first" creations. But hilariously if it were the case, it'd be the complete OPPOSITE of what Matpat claimed, and that Edwin would be Afton instead :V >The best way I can describe it is conformation bias Absolutely.

[@undynlicia7554]

Yeah, Game Theory’s heavy tendency for confirmation bias is why I stopped watching their FNAF theories at around the start of the year, it may mean I’m rather behind on the information in the books and current popular theories, but if I want, I can easily find much more reliable theories that aren’t based on ridiculously cherry-picked evidence.

[@ivebenhere1843]

@@undynlicia7554 I don’t hate his theories or anything I just feel like he has a tendency to focus too much attention on small and unimportant details. Plus, a lot of newer fans only watch Mat’s theory videos so a lot of the assumptions he makes in his theories tend to be treated as fact in a lot of the community which just leads to more confusion. I know he says at the end of every video “that’s just a theory” but I feel like he doesn’t specify what parts of his theories are somewhat confirmed and what parts are just him reading between the lines; which also leads to more confusion.

[@undynlicia7554]

@@ivebenhere1843 Yeah, That’s my thoughts (I wasn’t intending for my comment to be MatPat hate, sorry if it read that way, I was only stating my opinions on the theories themselves) And honestly, I agree, most of the ‘base’ fandom (casual enjoyers, and new members) do see GT’s theories as fact, and the ‘that’s just a theory’ ending to each video has definitely become more of a tagline or catchphrase over it’s original purpose as a disclaimer.

[@bt12310]

sometimes you look into every little detail but maybe it doesn’t mean anything at all, maybe it doesn’t mean anything at all

[@AiRsTrIkExXzZ]

I always thought what happened to the cult of afton theory. I really liked it because it made some weird sense that the help wanted game had infected people meaning more and more people would be in afton’s cult. Then suddenly they dropped it even though it seems it can still be a thing. It’s as though they saw burn trap take over robots and went huh, he can only control robots and not people yet he’s controlling Vanny or atleast being a voice to her in her head

[@johnman8398]

It's because that theory was pre SB and it was made with the idea that willam is gone for good along with everyone else and was gonna be a fresh start with Vanny as the main antagonist. SB came out and vanny is barely in it, the blob is a thing, weird details that can be interpreted as the old characters being back but in new forms. By the time the more recent tales books came out it had already been years later by which point the theory had long been discarded.

[@twilight_potato]

@johnman8398 But, that's just it! We have recently found that Afton's _not_ back; it's the mimic pulling the strings. A _new_ character (at least, in official naming)! We could definitely still have the cult theory since the Mimic has learned about Freddy's. Not just Afton, the whole of Freddy's and its violent animatronics. So why aren't they at least _considering_ talking about it?!

[@johnman8398]

@@twilight_potato No we have not found that out. Afton is back, UCN already established this, the FF made it even more clear. The mimic while most likely involved in the games we aren't fully aware of the extent.

[@twilight_potato]

@@johnman8398 How did UCN confirm he was back? Ultimate Custom Night is what got people to question if he even is in the story anymore! What exactly in UCN suggested he was back in the living world? Also, Fazbear Frights (as far as the Afton storyline goes) seems to have a slightly different chain of events compared to FNAF 6 (which I'm pretty sure the epilogues are supposed to reference.) As for the mimic, its starting to become painfully clear that TFTPP has at least something to do with Security Breach. The mimic could very easily be who were dealing with.

[@kurokamina8429]

​@@twilight_potato"He tried to release you, he tried to release us. But I'm not gonna let that happen. I will hold you here, I will keep you here no matter how many times they burn us". -Vengeful Spirit "He tried to release you, he tried to release us". Henry tried to put an end to all of the suffering by releasing the souls of molten freddy, scrap baby, lefty, and afton. "But I'm not gonna let that happen". Vengeful spirit seems to not want that and succeed. "I will hold you here, I will keep you here". Where is here? Is it not hell? Or did he survive? "No matter how many times they burn us". Some way somehow the VS defined the laws if reminent and kept Afton alive after the fire. Otherwise this line just doesn't make sense.

[@axilia203]

Everyone knows Gregory is actually FazGoo

[@captainswagger2838]

Dang my bet was a bunch of sea Bonnie’s in a trench coat

[@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800]

I really miss when this series was just about paranormal possesion and the biggest question was just who posseses what animatronic and who was the murderer.

[@thebreadbunny1863]

It hasn't been for over 7 years, tbh

[@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800]

@@thebreadbunny1863 Unfortunately this ended softly with Sister Location and definitely after Pizzeria Simulator, when afterwards the series focused on nonsensical sci-fi stuff instead of even if barely held together, still somewhat sensible paranormal story

[@thebreadbunny1863]

@@thejunktownsheriffkilliand4800 it really hasn't got much more absurd than sister locations nightmare chambers

[@wallhaz5240]

I feel like at this point, there is no true answer for anything in this series anymore. Its like picking up a crumb off of the street and asking a stranger what food it came from. Neither of you know for sure but the stranger's answer is just as good as yours

[@siresquawks]

Not really? This is more like picking up a hunk of bread and debating what food it was in. Technically until you track down the original thing you can’t know for sure, but there’s something’s to look at.

[@elmtree9951]

yeah I feel like now the nature of FNAF is that there can't be an answer for anything because of how much it relies on the theory community. not in the sense that theories are what makes it money or anything but it's one of the biggest contributing factors to it's popularity and hype, and without it there's not much left lol

[@ribbit6845]

i mean at some point there's just nothing else to analyze and we're just waiting for the concrete proof or more content to dissect anyways

[@sansgamingwastaken]

I genuinely feel like the vast majority of concepts introduced in this series were designed to not have an answer. Scott and Steel Wool know that they can just conceive an idea and drop it into the already overflowing mass of theory fodder and the community will eat it up. They can simply hint to something being related and then they'll let their fanbase do the rest, and the fact that they don't bother writing any concrete solutions just means that the fandom will continue to speculate and speculate and speculate in circles because there was never a destination planned to begin with. It's actually genius, in a sense. They've convinced their fans to write answers for questions that were meaningless from the beginning, and the fact that FNaF's lore is so mindbogglingly convoluted means they'll be doing so ad nauseum until the heat death of the universe. They don't even have to try anymore.

[@AeonKnigh432]

​@siresquawks I mean... is there? Most modern theories rely on SB which doesn't have a story. Or the books, which are not canon to the games.

[@generalbutterscotch4887]

Can't wait for the season finale, where MatPat reveals that Gregory was the Mimic all along, and that Phone Guy is actually Edwin.

[@underrated6717]

We all know that Phone Guy is Purple Guy

[@garbagecrow9886]

I kinda see the line “You look different to me now” meaning something like Freddy just getting a better/more advanced facial recognition mode or something like that purely cause it would be weird if Roxy could see through people’s flesh rather than just seeing people through walls.

[@ivebenhere1843]

Freddy upgraded from 144p to 1080p

[@Toy_freddyofficial1]

He actually says he could see colors he's never seen before which means he may have been partly color blind so that's maybe what he's talking about

[@underrated6717]

You think if he saw an endoskeleton instead of Gregory he'd have a stronger reaction or even just address it directly, but noooo. Clearly we can overlook that to have a robot kid Gregory.

[@j-j8984]

​@@underrated6717or that Roxy would have said something sooner like: "Yo you ain't no kid!"

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Now that Ruin is out it’s possible that his eyes were seeing the in VR now

[@rocksandwoof]

matpat ignores {Context} and [[Content]] to push out a [Sensational New Video]? perish the thought

[@Conductor_of_the_Ensemble]

Spamton found.

[@kelceyclark9917]

I hope MatPat does a reaction to this like he does with FuhNaff

[@75JUNAKI]

I hope he does cause I feel his evidence for Gregory being a robot doesn’t have good supporting evidence because they’re don’t make sense with what’s establish in the franchies as a whole.

[@Nobody-hr4gt]

Seriously it's getting harder and harder to follow FNAF theories and have my own thoughts because I don't read the books and I don't want to

[@ivebenhere1843]

I tried reading all the Fazbear Frights books as they came out and then randomly half way through the series they announced a book set with a bonus book you can only get by buying the set and I've been bitter ever since.

[@Nobody-hr4gt]

@@ivebenhere1843 ugh thats horrible

[@Skibbutz]

​@@ivebenhere1843the bonus book is comprised entirely of cut stories. Its completely irrelevant and you miss absolutely nothing if you skip it. Just read the Tales

[@skrappothemonster1436]

I've always hated robot kids in FNaF, since the very beginning. So I'm glad you made this video and I hope MatPat sees it.

[@chuckles2364]

Being able to make copies of people that are the exact same except they're technically robots is stupid. Cheapens death.

[@justice8718]

William made them

[@XD-yn6hb]

@@chuckles2364Mimic Madness

[@nanuqo2006]

The only good one was Charlie in the novel trilogy (I.e. the only real one) because it actually had buildup

[@justice8718]

@@nanuqo2006 What's weird is that William has about several decades of in-universe lore that build up to him making robot children and explaining his immortality. For instance, Evan is William's real name and this part of William possessed and behaved similarly to the Fredbear plushy of fnaf4. Susie and the MCI children have died in the 1960s (Fruity Maze) and the Susie Frights story tightly connects her absent father to a plushy, like Jake's and the CC's fathers. Her plushy is the only one that is clearly inactive, and it must be caused by her father's arrest. What makes this significant is how fnaf6 plays out. We see Susie in human form playing and testing the arcade games in fnaf6. Finally, her body, chica, ends up being burned down on chair. This can be easily explained with William Afton bringing her back to life in a human form with his animatronic skills and his illusion disks. He can secure her the funds to manage the fnaf6 location in the first place. "But Scraptrap-" is a talentless imposter. William Afton often abandons his old identities after infamous events or being reportedly dead. He's going by Dave in the SB era now. Anyone that latches on to his old, infamous aliases are most likely fakers.

[@dezmas9332]

MatPat will never fail to say "the community won't like this," whenever he brings up robot kids, and I just wonder why he doesn't address more reasons for why his robot kid theory would be wrong and try to dig a deeper hole for himself

[@darkpain2452]

because there Charlie is a robot in silver eyes and goes to therapy, something Jessica points out did youforget that Charlie is been living with her friends after dying for like 10 years

[@dezmas9332]

@@darkpain2452 You're obviously a kid, stop trying to say stuff boy

[@darkpain2452]

@@dezmas9332 I get now,you absolute have no arguments

[@dezmas9332]

@@darkpain2452 because you're saying nonsense kid, get back to me when you're 16, maybe I'll consider your position then

[@Toy_freddyofficial1]

@@darkpain2452 robot Charlie isn't Canon sorry but not everything is Canon and that has nothing to do with gregory

[@jigglyback2338]

Gregory is the doomslayer😂 now I gotta make him into a demonslayer using editing

[@sparklingbee_]

Connection terminated. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Matthew, if you still even remember that name, But I'm afraid you've been misinformed. Gregory is not a robot kid, nor Tales from the Pizzaplex stories are parallels to the game, although, Gregory is indeed patient 46. All the FNaF KZbinrs have been called here, into a labyrinth of books and games, misconceptions and loose ends. A labyrinth with no exit, a maze with no prize. You don't even realize that you are trapped. Your lust for making theories has driven you in endless circles, chasing the cries of robot children in some unseen chamber, always seeming so near, yet somehow out of reach, but you will never find them. None of you will. This is where your story ends. And to you, Sire Squawks, who somehow kept making theories that made the most sense, although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be. I am remaining as well. I am nearby. FNaF lore will not be remembered, and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away. As the agony of every tragedy should. And to you theorists trapped in the corridors, be still and give up your theories. They don't belong to the lore. For most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps more waiting for you after the smoke clears. Although, for one of you, the darkest pit of Hell has opened to swallow you whole, so don't keep the devil waiting, TK. HyperDroid, if you can hear me, you made amazing theories as well. It's in your nature to make good content. I'm sorry that on that day, the day of GTLive stream, good internet connection wasn't there to let you speak your mind about the books. I should have known you wouldn't agree with the theory that TftPP is a separate timeline, not HyperDroid. It's time to rest - for theorists, and for those theories they have carried in their arms. This ends for all of us. End communication.

[@rileyleal]

Underrated comment

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

The best comment I have seen in my life

[@Wizardjones69]

Bad ending All the youtubers, theorists abandoned this series to be dead in Internet, and the bad games goes to hell Matpat has a happiest day where he can finally rest in piece from this franchise and mascot horror finally die for good

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

@@Wizardjones69 and then garten of Banban becomes a worldwide success and rules the world of games

[@DylanTheHaunter]

W comment

[@Michael91932]

At this point MatPat is dead set on proving a single robot child exists, and I feel it’s just a cope from one of his Sister Location theories.

[@superlemonslicer1224]

Sans is Ness 2.0

[@someonenamedsomeone9497]

Phone guy is the killer 2.0

[@zacharypeterson1331]

@@superlemonslicer1224 I mean Toby did confirm sans is ness (all be it it was an on an unrelated question from a readit ama so probably just a joke)

[@zacharypeterson1331]

Lol definitely

[@darkpain2452]

Did you forget about charlie?

[@swarple]

Thank you for this. I’ve always despised Gregbot. I much prefer the idea that Gregory’s just a normal kid and a new character, and I think GGY creates a great middle-ground explanation. He is a normal kid, except… he was possessed by Glitchtrap for a time. It’s so bizarre that MatPat seems desperate to conclude robot kids. Like maybe he’s been saying it for so long that he feels he can’t back out of it now? Such a strange theory to cling to, esp considering that the evidence is so weak.

[@quinnmaillot3882]

The only narrative in which a child robot "realistically" makes sense is if it's meant to indicate an individual who is incapable of having a family building one, or someone replacing a lost family member, that is the narritive role it fills, so until we have that, i doubt it will come up as being true. (Mimic doesn't fit that role, as it was made before Edwin's kid died.)

[@LiMe251]

Assuming Glitchtrap is the Mimic, his "robotic behavior" could be the Mimic acquiring information whilst controlling him.

[@zror2]

I do also get frustrated that Edwin has to be a Henry parallel. Are they implying only Henry and Afton can build robots? Why can’t he be a new character?

[@ivebenhere1843]

To be fair Edwin's story does have some pretty strong parallels to Henry but it's not 1 to 1 and there are also a lot of human characters in the games and books that have parallels but are still very different. I would rather Edwin be cannon to the games though; Fazbear Entertainment is a huge company I doubt they would only hire 2 people to make animatronics for them.

[@punusername3445]

@@ivebenhere1843 problem is, Fazbear Entertainment being a *huge* company, is something very 'book only' or at least very recent, back in the day and the old games it was implied it was a small company (the first trilogy has mentions of people reutilizing old animatronics in basically every game)

[@ivebenhere1843]

@@punusername3445 so many problems with this. Firstly in fnaf 2 we learn that Fazbear Entertainment had enough money to “spend a small fortune on these new animatronics”; and they made about six toy animatronics with facial recognition and free-roaming capabilities, if they they were a small company why would they bother making that many animatronics with facial recognition. Surely they could’ve just made one or they just could’ve updated their security. Maybe they weren’t as big of a company as they are in recent games but they were far from just a locally owned business in the original games.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

@@ivebenhere1843Fazbear also is a large corporation because of Pizza Sim where Michael is working a Fazbear Entertainment Franchise which means there are many many fazbear locations across the US although I doubt they are international but it’s possible. The Mega Pizza Plex also to me just seems to be mixture between a massive shopping mall + a Bowling alley with a theme park like Disney land. There are likely many small FNAF 6 style restaurants still across the US alongside Pizzaplexs which are more akin the the large real life Bowling alleys in the US that have Lasertag, Go Karts, Restaurant, and a Arcade combined. Just not on a US shopping mall scale like the Mega Pizza Plex

[@mylam658]

Great video I love the callback to the "phone guy = purple guy" theory as example for where Matpat's theory process is at, brought me back.

[@ashykins]

I just realized. The main reason vanny could have brought the animatronics into the hole is to get them infected by glitch trap as Freddy is when glitchtrap touches the screen. The reason Freddy would be fine in the pizzaplex is because of how he’s in safe mode and the large distance between glitchtrap and the normal pizzaplex area.

[@cloudiestschweep]

tbh it's kind of just funny at this point. 10 bucks when the movie drops he makes a theory that one of the characters is a robot xp

[@ivebenhere1843]

I mean people are already doing that for the movie in a way with the whole "Abby Baby" thing.

[@almightykellus2585]

People have already done that for Kim (training tape woman in the teaser trailer)

[@arsonvamp]

ngl i’m very sick of matpat’s assertion that gregory is evil and a villain actually. it’s such a weird mischaracterisation and is also bad writing. it’s very clear that yes, gregory was possessed by glitchtrap at some point, but *isn’t anymore*. and while steel wool did bungle a lot of the lore, one of the only things they didn’t fuck up, imo, is the character writing. so i don’t think they’d make gregory a twist villain or whatever, that shit is tired and lacks nuance. gregory is a normal kid who was possessed by the murder rabbit for a time but isn’t anymore, and now has to navigate the aftermath of that. not an evil robot recreation of the bite victim that was made by henry for no reason and is a follower of peepaw afton i guess.

[@blueberryelf1150]

Honestly new favorite theorist. Very objective and think everything through. Even if you are wrong you point out a lot of interesting things people look over or never think about.

[@robxholicfoxyfan8552]

I think the Mimic Program that was in Baby was taken out by Micheal as she says "retrieve me" as he removes a chip from her arm using the code on Baby's head. This means that Baby, much like Golden Freddy, had two consciousnesses inside of them. Explains why Baby talked as if she wasn't Elizabeth in Sister Location and why Scrap Baby, without the chip thing installed, acted actually like Elizabeth. FuhNaff's video has convinced me of that. Henry wouldn't have known it was removed so that's why he thought it burned with the rest. And I agree that Gregory was just a kid controlled by Glitchtrap, which is the mimic, meant to originally mimic someone like Charlie, but put through Afton's SparkNotes in VR and this corrupting even further than the poor and violent treatment of the Funtimes would have already done. Baby was always good at pretending, and the mimic loves disguises. What better way to disguise yourself than controlling over a human mind or two. Why would a real family be so important as to bump off someone, if the family wasn't already bumped off? I wouldn't put it past a machine copying Afton to get rid of Gregory's family using his body, and stalking the other host in therapy. How else would he be able to lie that much about them if the parents were taking him to therapy. Obviously if he didn't start as an orphan, he certainly wound up as one due to the virus controlling his brain.

[@Auubreygraham]

okay im sorry but the chip theory is stupid. baby doesn't start acting evil in FFPS because she has no chip, she acts evil BECAUSE SHE IS EVIL. she spends all 5 nights of sister location trying to gain Michael's trust by manipulating him so that on night 5, he'd go into the scooping room so they could use his body as a skin suit.

[@playmaster_plus]

I would love to see a GTlive reaction to this

[@apineapple3177]

Fr

[@amphibiland7315]

It reminds me of when matpat thought Michael was a crying child robot as well

[@kksmith2282]

Great video! I've honestly been super on the fence about the whole Gregbot thing for awhile. I started out really against it (his initial evidence has always been just terrible), then Matpat's theory about the post-it room really convinced me that it might be true for awhile. But then Tales came out and puts that into question, so now I'm back to a sort of "probably not but I don't know." I'm open to anything at this point I suppose. I've even entertained the idea that maybe it's both - Gregory was a real kid who was then replaced by a robot "mimicing him." Hopefully Ruin answers this definitively. As for your point about how to bring it up - honestly if you're right about Glitchtrap forcing Gregory to kill his own parents, just telling that story feels like a pretty natural (and creepy as hell) way to confirm it :D I think they could definitely do it if they tried. Though sometimes I swear they only aim to make things more confusing (see literally all of Security Breach's plot without the context of the Tales books) so who knows if they will. Also think I've said this before but yes, 100% on the books thing. It's to the point I can't even suggest they aren't 100% in the games timeline (both Stitchline and Tales) without multiple people jumping on my back about how terrible and wrong I am (and if it's reddit downvoting me to hell). And if I try to debate the subject they just dig their heels in and "rebutt" my counter evidence with just "No, you're wrong" or "it says world of the latest games and this vague as heck statement by the Scholastic marketing department is irrefutable proof." It's insanely frustrating.

[@soomi5667]

Your point about the whole book thing on is point. Whenever I see people say there’s a CHANCE the books aren’t like a 1 to 1 of the games, they get told they’re wrong and all that. It can be incredibly annoying tbh.

[@higueraft571]

Personally, never felt TOO strongly on Gregbot, although Fuhnaff's theories have certainly carried much more evidence for sure... And even if his are completely off, he HAS still pointed out some small details that DO seem important, regardless of the Theory :V

[@hudsonthejojo2825]

This video goes hard. As a firm believer of Talesgames (as well as maaaybe Stitchlinegames) I agree that the whole situation with the books can be frustrating, even though Tales is kinda in our face about it's canonicity people are gonna have doubts or be confused for one reason or another. Also thank you for pointing out the Moon screen effect, kinda completely destroys the Vanny screen effect argument. I really hope Ruin does make things more clear especially in regards to things like the Mimic, Edwin, etc.

[@hog9613]

so someone correct me if im wrong here but the first instance of seeing vanny is in the power station in freddy yes? how come gregory can see vanny THROUGH freddys camera, what this means is that freddy has coding in his eyes ( i think since new eyes correct this) that prevent him from seeing vanny rather than Gregory having robot eyes that let him see vanny. Boom now greg bot only has one evidence point and thats the "your broken" line which is shit anyway

[@THGMR-ox7sd]

I don’t think “your broken” is good enough evidence. Humans can break their bones so they can also be broken, not just robots. Why does that prove that Gregory would be a robot? In my opinion I just don’t think that’s enough evidence.

[@hog9613]

@@THGMR-ox7sd no where near good enough evidence

[@Wizardjones69]

Ever heard the scrapped line of "gregory you are bleeding" They scrapped i dont know sell merch to poor kids rip the money of their poor parents because PG 13 Man, its not the fault of the theorists but is bad writting

[@hog9613]

@@Wizardjones69 he is still clinging to a theory that has no evidence and that (I personally think) is extremely unsatisfying narrativly

[@higueraft571]

@@Wizardjones69 It... definitely isnt because "PG-13", you clearly havent seen much PG-13 either :V It's more likely because Scott asked it to be changed. Why? We dont know, Steel Wool probably doesnt know either.

[@Wizardjones69]

Please that exist a alternative universe that twisted ones and fourth closet never existed

[@superlemonslicer1224]

Wish Granted Now TO and FC are a official fnaf game by the name "fnaf into madness" Be careful what you wish for

[@froggylynx5647]

EDIT: I forgot to say this in the beginning, but this is great video! You go through all of the evidence very carefully and debunk it in a very sound way. Especially when talking about how he picks and chooses what from the books is canon and what is parallel. I’ve been fed up with Matpat lately. I’m a regular GT defender but his “my way or the highway” mentality when it comes to Gregbot is so frustrating. He doesn’t even have a good reason for why he believes in it so much other than “the books exist guys!! stop pretending the books aren’t real!” as if he wasn’t the first person to discredit their importance to the lore, most prominently in the FF and TFTPP over the novel trilogy(a running gag in his videos are that FF has time traveling ball pit and fazgoo and uses it to state that nothing from those books are canon). If he would just accept TFTPP as canon(which it likely is, or at the very least is more important to the games than the novels or FF), he would’ve never dragged us into this mess. Matpat only has 2 pieces of evidence for it. 1- Gregory is a lil weird. This is explained in GGY & therapy tapes and doesn’t require logical leaps. 2- Robot kids exist. When people have questioned him on gtlive he literally will only say “robot kids are a thing in the books” when novel Charlie isn’t even similar to CC outside of a few nods. The fact that Charlotte is recreated as a robot doesn’t at all equate to other kids being robots, which he STRONGLY believes is the case. I normally don’t care about what Matpat thinks, but pretending like he put thought into this is laughable, and slapping “it’s just a theory” on it is a wreckless bandaid. He has an insane influence on the fandom, mostly thanks to his early theories being correct, and thus controls what is considered the canon and/or correct opinion. I know he has a few others on his theory team and they don’t all agree with him on this. imo he should either allow for more input and critiques or take a step back.

[@WackMaDino]

gotta be 100% with you its never that serious

[@HerSandiness]

Why should he take a step back? It's HIS name and HIS face that gets beamed out to the public in every single video. All criticism goes to HIM. So HE SHOULD be the one who has final say over what he puts out. And it has NEVER been his way or the highway with him. Anyone can disagree. It's just the nastiness that he has a problem with. As he and anyone else should!

[@froggylynx5647]

@@WackMaDino I get that the situation is ridiculous but he’s never been this childish with bad reception before

[@froggylynx5647]

@@HerSandiness Another thing to note- The only reason I can think of for why he’s doing this is so that his whole “Afton Family Recreated” theory isn’t entirely wrong. Like with Gregory’s identity, he also refuses to acknowledge the Fazbear CEO character in the books. If he brought up the existence of the CEO in a video it would immediately disprove his Afton family theory as it hinges on Clara being the CEO. It would’ve been so easy for him to stick to the whole parallel thing instead of everyone physically/supernaturally being there. Even when he changed it to the literal same Afton’s being brought back, he couldn’t find a good excuse for Elizabeth or Michael.

[@johnman8398]

He doesn't have a "highway or my way" mentality about Gregbot, he has fully acknowledged that it could be wrong and never acts like what he says is fact. He never discredited the FF and TFTPP, making jokes about the weird concepts these books introduce isn't discrediting and he has never said nothing from those books are canon. TFTPP has connections to FF which make it being canon to the games very unlikely outside of the concepts being introduced. Also he doesn't have to accept anything nor should anyone, people should be free to believe whatever they want and as long as they don't treat as fact there shouldn't be any complaints. He didn't drag anyone into anything nor is there anything to be dragged into, this doesn't even matter. Saying he didn't put any thought into it is not only factually wrong but just rude. Saying its a theory isn't a bandaid because that's what it is, stop making excuses to try and justify your irrational problem with a theory. Him having a big influence doesn't change anything, if people take his word as gospel that's on them and trying to blame matpat for something outside of his control is just stupid.

[@marx4538]

I really don't know the modern lore well enough to say much things here, but you mention that MatPat seems to claim that Henry created Gregory to stop Glitchtrap of the future - I've thought, wouldn't it be less of a leap for Henry to just keep Michael alive if he knew that something like Glitchtrap is gonna exist? He's clearly more equipped for the job and will care more than a newly created robot kid going through millions of hoops to get there.

[@gamergumilyov8579]

He did say there was a way out planned for you

[@Wizardjones69]

Plot twist from scott mind and steel wool corporatives suit: GREGORY IS MADE OF FAZ GOO

[@ArmorAdv413]

They could have him walk through a metal detector, or and x-ray, or show his weight because robots are heavy, or give him a black eye I know these aren’t the best ways to confirm he’s human or a robot but whatever it’s something

[@BunBit_]

The problem is that Charlie from the Novels was ultimately mostly indistinguishable from normal humans. Unlike Gregory, however, she had narrative buildup to be a robot.

[@customarymagic]

Honestly I just hate the robot theory because it feels cheap and boring for the sake of a "big reveal" I really don't understand why GT has latched onto it the way they did. There's so much stuff that could be more interesting to examine but no, there's one theory and one theory alone

[@BreadBot_]

Mathew needs this help ALSO IVE NEVER SEEN A TRAILER FOR A PREMIER!??? THATS AWESOME

[@charscreamAA]

While I do think that Gregory was supposed to be a robot at some point in an earlier version of security breach I feel like we've seen enough of the story evolve that Gregory is definitely not a robot. I feel like this is symptom of how weird security breach is with lore since it feels like it introduces a lot of lore bits that don't do anything like the bit about bonnie being smashed, the post it room, and the BB air adventure minigame are cool but they don't do anything for the story you could cut all of those and the story of security breach wouldn't change because of how little the game will confirm anything the only lore piece I can think they actually confirm is that Vanny = Vanessa+Bunny which was the already obvious thing. I hate that's at that point but I really just want them to say Gregory is or isn't a robot either in universe or just break the 4th wall and say he isn't so we can get past that point

[@Yanhime97]

Maybe I'm part of the problem in this case, but I haven't been genuinely invested in the FNAF story or theories for a while now. I just watch MatPat's stuff cause it's entertaining and well put together, and don't bother questioning it cause I couldn't care less how it actually shakes out. Like, I'm more invested in seeing who got it the closest than actually interested in where the story goes.

[@j-j8984]

Yeah, I mean at this point it's gotten too complicated for me to really get into theorizing on my own, we are far from simple possessions anymore, so might as well have someone tell me what's going on and being a little confused than trying to figure it out myself and being hella confused.

[@Khloe.6102]

same here

[@SupinePandora]

Tl;dr if gregory is a robot, where are proofs of his creation and by whom.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

When I watched his last video, I liked the direction it was going until it suddenly became Gregbot then I clicked off. I swear Gregbot is the Game Theory equivalent of a Rickroll it abruptly appears in a random theory after getting your hopes up.

[@aneonfoxtribute]

He literally doesn't like it either, he says that himself in that theory. It's just the thing he thinks makes the most sense. Besides, the theory is fine I think. I don't particularly believe it either but like you're acting like it's Mat being a bad actor in order to fuck with everyone and push his desired theory when it's really not, he has reasons for it and doesn't even really like it that much

[@maxwellattacks6645]

@@aneonfoxtribute That wasn't the point of my comment the Rick Roll comparison was not intended to be literal he isn't doing it on Porpoise or anything, all I am saying is it feels like that to me. Sorry for any confusion

[@aneonfoxtribute]

@@maxwellattacks6645 Ah, it just came off that way to me. I see.

[@hioman]

I was terrified when he was talking about the mimic because I though he would say "you know who else is a robot with an AI made to copy a dead child? Gregory" so my relief, however short, was still great

[@ivebenhere1843]

I don't think Gregbot is completely impossible but there just isn't enough evidence for it; the best evidence I've seen is the Vanny screenglitch effect but even that isn't really convincing.

[@tapseymoth803]

“We don’t even know what is supposed to be read” is why I just simply just stopped caring about finding the “truth” and mostly focused my curiosity on coming up with cute head canony explanations for the glitches of security breach like giga monty and turbo chica and all of the silly speed run strats because those are the things I actually engage with in game. Whether vanny is vanessa or someone else or anything will not change the fact that all she does is tpose and repeat the same lines over and over again. Also a small correction, Vanny cannot get you while your in hiding spots she just dance walks into it until you decide to leave. She also doesn’t react to any of the staffbots catching and will only start going towards you if she has direct line of sight. I even had one time where I broke line of sight and Vanny just lost all object permanence and went back to the lost and found and replayed her wave animation. Like nothing will save this game’s narrative so lets just go crazy with it. Like connecting the fact that GGY had a weird access code that let them get into everything with the fact that freddy for a while acted as a skeleton key that opened any and all doors for you and with a little shenanigans and do so many sequence breaks. The reason why GGY left a bunch of bizarre high scores in random arcade machines was because in the anything goes speed run catergory we use arcade machines as basically warp points (its how we turn vanny into dismembered bits in under 30 seconde) all of the GGYs are just left over from the teleporting. What was in the fnaf4 box? Well thats easy if we assume that plushtrap is guarding the location of the box…. it means that when we can link approaching the box causing time to warp to 2 am with the magic 2 am screwdriver in security breach that will yeet you either forwards ane backwards in time back to 2 am meaning that 2 am screwdriver was obviously in the box and is why fnaf4 position on every timeline so absolutely borked. Screw robot kids, gregory is obviously an evil shadow gremlin because whenever he (or vanessa) enter a dark place their model’s lighting bugs out and turns into shadow monster (also the camera has a tendency to accidentally go inside of gregories head creating the most terrifying jumpscare in the game). It just is so much fun to engage with things I know are not canon because if they aren’t canon that means they can never be retroactively ruined in the next installments like every other good thing in this franchise ^^

[@siresquawks]

I didn't say she could find you in hiding spots, I said she could get you while hiding in Freddy. Vanny's AI is just broken and shitty, but she's Supposed to be a bigger threat. That was the core point.

[@tapseymoth803]

Am my mistake either way good video ^^

[@HollowTransient]

Video kinda goes into why I grew to not really like Game Theory that much (content-wise at least, I also don't care how they present themselves often and their business model but thats w/e unimportant to this) and really dislike how much of a grip GT has on the fanbases of the games it makes theories on. Like, I was there since the start of Game Theory so I saw how its influence grew and its style changed and it was fine enough at first. Very easy to hand-wave stuff with the "its just a theory" line, but I feel a lot of people don't actually take that to heart and it isn't helped with GT kind of doubles downs on specific interpretations like this. Like, the FNAF stuff is the most prominent but I've had issues with their Undertale and Petscop stuff as well. Doesn't help that often, as you point out at one moment, they miss the forest for the trees and sometimes don't think about the narrative being said. Or, from what I've seen, they just go with the popular ideas or what catches the most attention. Its a weird ouroboros I feel. Game Theory is influenced by fan theories to make videos on specific subjects and stick with whatever seems popular. That stuff becomes more popular because Game Theory is a big thing now. Those theories becomes prominent to fans who then, despite it all being said to just be "theories", begin to find things to justify the theories with instead of seeing if the theories actually fit or coming up with their own things. The theories begin being taken for granted as truths and then new theories spawn with those as the focus point. Game Theory covers those because they become popular. etc. etc. And when it comes to FNAF, I don't even want to know how often GT had actually influenced the story (either to go more in line with it, or to go against it), on purpose or by accident. Because no matter what any of the devs or Scott say, thats a genuine concern I have that is definitely possible. Because like you said, we KNOW they watch GT. TL/DR: I don't want to ruin people's fun and I love seeing theories and trying to piece together things in the media I like, so I get it. A part of the fun in experiencing art is analyzing and discovering what you like and coming to understand it. I just wish Game Theory didn't influence things so much, or at least actually looked at works through more narrative lenses, and that everyone else would consider that as well.

[@higueraft571]

Dont forget, his theory on Subnautica too, which most people who knew the lore kinda... immediately knew was Pure Bullshit, and that it was purely because the game was ocean-related, for a sponsor video :V

[@vineaccount6832]

I see some people bring up that he isn't complaining about food or water in the Pizzaplex. This... Literally means nothing. Some of the collectibles in the game are food items and we have no clear statements of what collectibles Gregory economically picks up, so who's to say he isn't snacking on them? We don't eat them in game, but how Security Breach actually goes is probably not directly what at least one player did.

[@siresquawks]

Also, it ignores the possibility Gregory just went back later, or that it's a fake/voice copy of Gregory to lure people to die.

[@vineaccount6832]

Yep.

[@kingofcrap4414]

Game protagonists never needing to eat or drink is a common trope. The player character in Pokemon goes on a grand adventure spanning the entire region and never once is shown eating. Frisk in Undertale travels across an entire monster society without taking any breaks to eat. Does that make them robot kids as well? Of course not. It's just that including cutscenes of your character eating would be an unneccesary hamper on the player experience. You can assume they're just doing it "off-screen."

[@tropezando]

Kid has a family, therefore the kid is Vin Diesel in the Fast and Furious series. FNAF solved?!

[@SpeedyChad]

In the newest game theory video matpat uses the fact that in the book the original mimic is described with a hinged jaw to connect it to henrys animatronic designs, the thing is that NONE of henrys designs have hinged jaws, the 2 part design looks to be hydraulically or piston operated like jaws on golden freddbear during the bite of the crying child. Where we see hinged jaws are the animatronics from fnaf 1, fnaf 2 [excluding chicka] and some others including springtrap which would make the hinged jaw a design trait of afton and not henry. Also another thing to add is that all the nightmare animatronics have hinged jaws exept fredbear and chicka

[@thesmilingman7576]

19:46 we could see from Glamrock Freddy's perspective for a bit before he points out something is behind Gregory and Casey and since he has Roxy's eyes he would see Gregory's nervous system

[@kyubbikcat2281]

Finally, it’s about time we trash this STUPID theory and I’ll never forgive the books for bringing about this concept.

[@ivebenhere1843]

To be fair to the books, it actaully made some amount of sense in the novel trilogy since Henry was a grieving father and wanted his daughter back; there was actual motivation for him to do that. The best motive for someone building a Gregbot in the games would be Mrs. Afton but we have no reason to believe Mrs. Afton isn't dead and six feet under at this point.

[@personman348]

17:09 I didn’t know Steve was in the fourth closest the character that appeared years after the first book trilogy ended

[@denime2727]

Well recently the Tales books have been marketed as being in the game universe but neither Steel Wool nor Scott have denied nor confirmed this

[@skyriderp]

Matpat has said multiple times that he has tlread through all the books front to back him self and when he needs a refresher of what happened in the books he goes back and reads them to see if he did anything wrong

[@siresquawks]

Yet the objectively wrong statements still stand. You can't claim the book is saying one thing when it objectively states the other. So either he/his team forgot, didn't read them very thoroughly, or is outright lying or misrepresenting the story for his interpretation to look more plausible. Not to mention in a recent GTLive He said he was still reading some of the stories, so clearly he isn't just absorbing books in their entirety the moment they drop like some sort of literature kirby.

[@kingofflames738]

It's annoying that Gregbot is the theory that makes the most sense in the greater picture. Curious to see where this video will go.

[@siresquawks]

It really isn’t.

[@Mugwimp]

He cant keep getting away with this!!!!! 😫😫😫😫

[@zin_zin1903]

i think i've heard Matpat say in several videos that he will NEVER give up the theory of Gregory being a robot or a robot kid existing in security breach.. A bit annoying tbh, sure it could be true but its good to look at other angles and other theories too, reanalyze stuff, text, books etc etc

[@codywasson5894]

Do you have some link to that because wow that is something that is bad if it is true.

[@zin_zin1903]

@@codywasson5894 im not entirely sure if he did, ive watched so many of his videos i dont remember where he might've said it

[@davidmorales5797]

Honestly I always thought Security breach was as vague as possible in order to encourage theory crafting so Steelwool could just take whatever narrative is most popular and just go with that. I have a feeling that they, just like Scott, have no fully of even slightly mapped out story and are just throwing stuff at the wall. Cult of Afton theory went absolutely nowhere, Gregory bot theory has the narrative literary support but nobody else aside from Gametheory supports that, there's the Charliebot theory from FuhNAF, then the night marionette aka death itself trying to stop afton in the pizza plex, then the puppet haunting the pizza plex, double Vanessa, and so on and so forth. What I'm trying to say is, FNAF has no story because they're making it all up and leaving missleading lore bits everywhere so they can still do whatever they want. But that's just my random take.

[@lazedreamor2318]

No, you're right, there really is no overarching story to FNAF. This can be traced way back to the first game that gives us extremely little exposition on why this Mike Schmidt guy would endanger his life for minimum wage. Its just a bunch of events people has been able somehow deduce and strung together.

[@75JUNAKI]

I personally disgaree. I feel Scott had a good idea when doing F.N.A.F.2, and planned on ending it with F.N.A.F.3. But F.N.A.F.3 SpringTrap’s jumpscare was not scary so he made the fourth game trying to make it as scary as he can possibly make it, but the story was vauge so he made F.N.A.F.5. After F.N.A.F.5, he concluded the story with F.N.A.F.6, and an epologue, U.C.N. I feel Scott was doing some changes and additions as he went along.

[@75JUNAKI]

Establish of what we do know, I’ll be copying and pasting what I know from the Ultimate Guide, that I’ve read so far. Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 1 (F.N.A.F.1): Pg. 4 - 13 [Event’s] On the night of June 26th, late operation at Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, two local kids were lured by someone in a company mascot costume. Security serveillance identified the man responsible, which led to following morning where the suspect has been captured but the bodies were never found. Five children in total have gone missing, same suspect has been charged but still the bodies were never found. Shortly after, parents noticed blood and mucus coming around from the eyes and mouth of the animatronic mascots. They have reported this to the police, this caused the health department to threaten to shut down Freddy Fazbears Pizza. Years after the tragedy, Fazbear Ent Inc has tried to find a buyer, but companies are not willing to buy the franchies, so the restaurant will be shutting down by the years end. Back in pre 1987, animatronics were allowed to roam during the day, until The Bite of 87 happened, an event were an animatronic bit someone and caused them to loose their frontal lobe, yet still survive. Afterwards, the animatronic movement were restricted. A man known to the FNAF fandom as Phone Guy, worked at the Freddy Fazbears security office, almost done with his last week. Mike Schmidt applied for the night shift job, worked for 7 nights until he tampered with the animatronics on the 7th night and was fired. [Things not mentioned in the book] There were other people who applied for the night shift job, but presumably failed or did leave due to converns of animatronics trying to get into their office. The Phone Guy was caught by the animatronics and was stuffed inside a suit. Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 2 (F.N.A.F.2): Pg.14 - 27 [Event’s] At a Freddy Fazbear Pizza (or Fredbear’s Family Diner?), a little girl name Charlotte’s Web Emily was locked outside and is outside crying. She is the daughter of the co-owner of Fredbear’s Family Diner and Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, Henry Emily. The suspect (Purple Guy/William Afton/Aubergine Man) drove in front of the restaurant and “dropped kick” Charlotte’s Web and drove off. Charlotte’s Web soon possessed The Puppet, aka The Marionette. This is Aubergine Man’s 1st victim to his drop kicking spree. At the 1st Freddy Fazbear Pizza, Foxy runs out of his Pirate Cove tent to meets with 5 children, he does this 2 more times until they’ve all been dropped kicked by the Aubergine Man. The Marionette gives gifts to 4 children but it does nothing, then puts a Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy head on top of them. Later on the 1st Freddy Fazbear Pizza was closed and the 2nd one opened with new versions of the animatronics which are more advanced and are made to prevent any more tragedies. However, the building went on lock down, the staff is concern of any previous employees (likely Aubergine Man). Aubergine Man messed with the new animatronics facial recognition system to get into the restaurant, wore a yellow suit to “drop kick” 5 more kids. This causes the new animatronics to act weirdly. Jeremy Fiztgerald was hired after the reopening of the 2nd Freddy’s location and completed the full week including Saturday and was moved to day shift. Fritz Smith was hired as the night watch for Sunday, but tampered the animatronics and was fired. [Things not mentioned in the book] F.N.A.F.2 takes place in the late 1980’s (1987). In the 2nd Freddy’s location, there was the 1st night watch but complained about the animatronics so was moved to day shift. Another person was hired for the night shift and completed the night shift for the week and was moved to day shift and had to attend a birthday party to make sure non of the animatronics doesn’t harm someone. The original day shift either quit or was fired. The place was shut down after a birthday party, but was reopened until it was shut down a few weeks later. There plans of reopening in a smaller location featuring the original set of Freddy animatronics with the new ones being scrapped. [Notes] Jeremy Friiztgerald went to do the night shift for the 6th night, but this was during when the building was closed down. After the night, Jeremy was switched to the day shift. Fritz Smith was hired as the night watch but tampered the animatronics and was fired for it, as well as smelling, or as the company would say it “foul odor”. [Possible contridictions] The 2nd Freddy Fazbear’s opened, Phone Guy said in the 1st night “hello and welcome to your new summer job”. There was the 1st night gaurd, but was moved to day shift, and then another person was hired, yet still during the summer, due to Phone Guy mentioning it as I quoted earlier. But the book is implying that Jeremy is that 2nd night gaurd, yet the paycheck says November which doesn’t happen in summer, it happens in fall. So Jeremy should be the 3rd night gaurd but theres a problem. That 2nd night gaurd was told he’ll be moved to the day shift, and had to attend a birthday party, but again the book implies Jeremy. So the 2nd night gaurd is Jeremy? It sort of adds up due to the pink slip for Fritz listing him as the 3rd night watch. But the summer part though, it doesn’t add up, unless its an error. Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 3 (F.N.A.F.3): Pg.28 - 43 [Event’s] In the older Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, there were 2 Spring-Lock suits that doubles as both animatroncs and mascot suits. There was an incident at the sister location involving multipule Spring-Lock failures, the company then deemed these suits to be unsafe to wear and retired them. The safe rooms within each Freddy’s restaurant are sealed off and no staff member should ever tell anyone else of its existence. At the closed down 3rd Freddy’s Pizza, the Freddy animatronics are led by a shadowy Fredbear/Freddy to the safe room. This Shadow Fredbear is trying to help them lead the animatronics to Aubergine Man who is hiding in the safe room, along with his suit, Spring Bonnie. Shadow Fredbear is able to go into the safe room but the animatronics are not able. Unexpected to Aubergine Man, but takes the advantage and dismantles each of them. The 5 ghosts come out from the dismantled animatronics and block him from escaping the room, he hides in the Spring Bonnie suit but the Spring-Locks crushed him. 30 years after the closure of the 3rd Freddy’s Pizzeria, the company created the Fazbear’s Fright: Horror Attraction, based off of thr mythos of the infamous murders. The attraction opens up in about a week, the found relics from old pizzeria’s and found a full on animatronic, SpringTrap, and took it to the attraction. A night watched worked for a wekk, including the 6th night of the shift, the place burned down due to faulty wiring, but SpringTrap survived. There mini games in which animatronics (BaloonBoy, Toy Chica, FredBear and RXQ/ShadowToyBonnie) give cakes to different children. In the happiest day mini game, the Marionette gives a large cake to a child who then wears a FredBear mask. The 5 children pass on. [Things not mentioned in the book] The Spring-Lock suits are being retired and placed in the class locations. A night gaurd worked at the attraction earlier, but wasn’t interested, so he left until he decided to come back for another week, in which on his 2nd night, he meets SpringTrap. [Notes] To wear a Spring-Lock suit, the employee mustt use a handcrank to recoil and comress the animatronic parts around the sides of the suit. Spring-Locks must be fastened tight in order to keep the animatronic parts compressed, leaving room for a human occupant. The slightest pressure or moisture can cause the Spring-Locks to trip, releasing the machinery abd crushing the person inside the suit. When the Spring-Lock suits are in animatronic mode, they’re pre-set to walk toward any sound they hear. There are safe rooms within every Freddy’s location. They are not included in the digital map programmed into the animatronics so its invisible to them, and is not included in the building’s security blueprints. This room is hidden to costumers and they should never be taken from the main show area. The Shadow animatronics are helping the souls. Aubergine Man didn’t notice Shadow Fredbear in the safe room. The horror attraction seems like it can can catch on fire easily, the staff is making sure everything works and nothing catches on fire (always important).

[@75JUNAKI]

Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 4 (F.N.A.F.4): Pg.44 - 55 [Event’s] In 1983, a child name Evan Afton is being bullied by his older brother, Micheal Afton. Fredbear plushes are talking to Evan, telling him about things. On his birthday that takes place in a Freddy Fazbear Pizza, his older brother and his friends prank him by putting him in a Fredbear animatronic mouth which crushes him, making this the event, The Bite of 83. He is taken to a hospital, but didn’t survive, Michael apologies for what he did, and the Fredbear plush tells him “I’ll put you back together. A child is in a bedroom and has to fend off against nightmarish version of the Freddy animatronics (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy and FredBear) from midenight to 6:00 am. [Notes] Aubergine Man is working in this Freddy’s restaurant, as seen him helping an employee putting on a SpringBonnie suit. In the Night 1 End mini game, theres a dismembered Mangle toy on the floor in a little girls bed room. In the Night 2 End mini game, when Evan goes left, the Fredbear plush tells Evan “No! Don’t you remember what you saw?”, meaning Evan saw something happen, possibly bad thing. In the Night 3 End mini game, the orange pig tail girl reveals that the animatronic “comes to life at night” and “if you die, they hide your body and never tell anyone.” In the Night 7 End mini game, the player sees a locked box, with the text hovering it saying “Perhaps some things are best left forgotten, for now”. In the night gameplay, rarely 3 objects will appear next to the bedside table, pill bottle, an IV and a vase of flowers. Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 5 (F.N.A.F.Sister Location): Pg.56 - 71 [Event’s] After the closure of Freddy Fazbear’s Pizza, Aubergine Man opened Circus Baby Pizza World restaurant. Aubergine Man takes Elizabeth to the restaurant but tells her not to go near Circus Baby. When he left her alone, she disobeys him and goes close to Circus Baby, who pulls out an ice cream out of her stomach and then grabs her into body. Elizabeth now possess Circus Baby. Aubergine Man told Michael to go to the Circus Baby Ent & Rent to “put her back together”. Michael goes as a technician to repair the animatronics. On his 2nd night, Circus Baby speaks to him and earns his trust. On the 3rd night, after Michael did maintenance FunTime Freddy, he was jump scared by FunTime Foxy and trapped inside in a Spring-Lock suit, in the scooping room until the 4th night. Circus Baby revealed he kidnapped him, but told him to unwind the Spring-Locks so he can get out, he does so and was spotted by a security camera. Michael returned for the 5th night, he tries to help Circus Baby preserve a small card, goes to the scooping room but was tricked by her. The 4 main animatronics have been scooped up, their endoskeletons merged into a humanoid amalgamation named Ennard. Ennard scoops Michael and removed his insides and becomes his insides. Ennard walks around town as Michael, but the body decaying, Ennard is spit out into the sewers to find another body, but Michael is alive. Michael then hides from everyone, and will go on to search for Aubergine Man. [Things not mentioned in the book] Circus Baby Pizza World restaurant was only opened for 1 day, until it was shut down due to “gas leaks”. [Notes] An unnamed man questions Aubergine Man on the design choices of the FunTime animatronics. The FunTime animatronics are made by Aubergine Man to lure and capture children. In Circus Baby Ent & Rent, the animatronics are rented out for birthday parties. After every shift, Michael goes home to watch a soap opera called The Immortal and the Restless. The couple, vampire Vlad and his mistress name Clara, argue about child support, but in the night were Michael got scooped, they both reconcile. [Possible contridictions] F.N.A.F.S.L does not take place in Circus Baby Pizza World, but in Circus Baby Ent & Rentals. Circus Baby Pizza World is a restaurant. Five Nights At Freddy’s: The Ultimate Guide Chapter 6: (F.N.A.F.6/Pizza Simulator): Pg.72 - 93 [Event’s] Back when Charlotte Web was “drop kicked”, and thrown in the back alley by Aubergine Man, who drove off. In the Fazbear restaurant, the Security Puppet was in its purple present box, with another boxed stacked on top. But it manages to leap out and goes goes outside to find Charlotte Web. Outside is raining, so the Security Puppet slowly short-circuits and slumps over, holds Charlotte, who possesses it. [Don’t know what this is, is exactly] Later that night, Aubergine Man (or whoever the Orange Man is) drives to a restaurant called Jrs, only to not be allowed in, and so he drove back to his house. When he arrived, he goes inside, but is told by someone who’s watching TV “not to bother him, he had a rough day.”, Aubergine Man knocks on the door which is locked, yells of someone for locking it. He goes outside, walks to the back of the house and sees the wondow is broken and he says “ran off to that place again, he’ll be sorry when he gets back”. Aubergine Man dressed in the SpringBonnie suit, drove over a dog. The pet owner, Susie, was saddend, but Aubergine Man tells her that he’s not dead, he’s over ther, follow me” and drop kicks her. [Idk 30 or 40 years later, also after F.N.A.F.3] Henry sets up a plan to finally heal this wound, to lure all the aniamtronics, burn them to set their souls free. Henry created Lefty to trapped The Marionette inside of itself so he doesn’t interfere with his plans. A person was hired as the owner of a Fazbear restaurant. The person builds his own Fazbear restaurant, salvaged 4 animatronics, does tasks in his office from monday to saturday. Henry announces that this restaurant is a trap, sets the fire to burn everything down, to set the souls free. Tells his “old friend” that the darkest pit of hell has opened to swollow him. Henry had desingnated an escape route for the owner, but had a feeling that’s not what he want and is right where he wants to be. Henry aplogizes to Charlotte for not being able to save her. [Things not mentioned in the book] In Midnight Motorcycle minigame, the animatronics footprint has 3 toes. When the F.N.A.F.6 building was set on fire, Henry also says he is remaining as well, he is nearby. [Notes] In the Midnight Motorcycle minigame, when going back of the Annoying Orange Man’s house, there are footrpints from a human, and an animatronic. Aubergine Man collects Remnant from animatronics. Remnant is soul engery (?), can be destroyed by overheating and the Scooper from Sister Location infuses things with Remnant. The spirits who are presumed to possess the Freddy animatronics, Gabriel (the Warrior), Fritz (Smith, had the hat which has no.1 in BOLD), Susie (Lue) and Jeremy (Fiztgerald ROBOTNIK). The name Lefty is an acronym for Lure, Encapsulate, Fuse, Transport and Extract.

[@bluestrangler0447]

My biggest problem with how insistent he is on this robot kid stuff is 1. How much he plays up the evidence, like bestie it’s a line in a book and a screen effect 2. Everything he said works without the robot kid, it’s just an extraneous argument at this point Also for the love of god I want him to stop playing the “I’m the only person who takes the books seriously” card, that I feel like was only true around the original trilogy, by Into the Pit it was clear. I respect and love MatPat, he’s literally awesome but sometimes his theories just give me a headache

[@according_response1799]

he just seems more egotistical with his fnaf theories now

[@cakeeyplayz]

I mean, i still havent seen any good explanations for why gregory isnt a robot kid. Still waiting for someone to disprove the theory.

[@bluestrangler0447]

RyeToast brought up a good point to this, it not the job to prove he’s not a robot, that’s the assumption a human appearing boy being human is a reasonable assumption. It’s the job of the person trying to say they’re something else to prove that

[@bluestrangler0447]

I am so sorry that replied three times by KZbin is broken 😭

[@cakeeyplayz]

@Bluestrangler04 he did though. The eyes having the same shutter effect the SB Cameras have is plenty enough proof, besides all the other evidence matpat had(how freddy mentions he looked different, etc. etc.)

[@hioman]

Yo! I just thought of a theory, what if you're playing as Gregory in fnaf VR and the ending is Gregory getting possessed, the end of the game without the tapes (where you end up inside freddy) could be how Gregory knows/decides to stop the missing children in the pizza plex

[@siresquawks]

Well, in curse of dreadbear you find Vanny’s mask and wearing it with glitchtrap has her voice talking, so it’d be a bit of weird narrative dissonance.

[@hioman]

@Sire Squawks yeah, it just doesn't make sence that vannessa would replay the game and rebuild the tapes, especially if 2 of them were made after she was already possessed

[@hioman]

@Sire Squawks plus, in previous games you can play as different people like night 7 guy vs nights 1-6 guy in fnaf2, or playing as the kids in the minigames, so it's not out of the question for the DLC protagonist being vanny, and the main game being gregory

[@siresquawks]

@@hioman I feel tape girl actually just got away fine and the last few are fabricated/replaced by Glitchtrap, given all of his distorted audio is stuff she says in those tapes, making Vanny just a new beta tester who doesn't know the difference. She isn't replaying it.

[@hioman]

@@siresquawks oh right. I forgot they aren't confirmed to be tye same character

[@emeraldthe1vods]

This. Maybe my one and ONLY gripe about FNAF theories.

[@71507]

I have a lot of ranty thoughts in my head about the whole current situation (about how Gregory still clearly has a connection to BV of sorts, FuhNaff's obsession with Evil Charlie is dumb but justified in lieu of SB's weird imagery, the books being needed to understand things is atrocious from a storytelling perspective, SB's development issues permanently crippled the franchise's story, and a lot more) and not enough time to put them into words, but one bit I want to focus on is that it kinda drives me up a wall how people saw one or two interpretations of where the punctuation goes in the secret code and just rolled with it. Just off the top of my head there's at least five different ways you could rearrange it to get different meanings out of it and if it happens that the commonly accepted one isn't the proper one then people will never figure anything out, and showing the code with punctuation in while passing it as the solved version is only going to exacerbate the problem further. Not really meant as an attack, I just detest seeing the community ignore the issue when it's one of the handful of concrete things from SB we can actually work with.

[@emdiggy3110]

When I watched the latest theory I like the direction it was going it made sense until he brought up Gregbot i just slammed my self then when he said well technically we haven't seen he's parents in the physical book i was just done at that point i enjoy his videos but there is so much someone can take before being done.

[@mylam658]

lol I kinda feel the same, but I just find it easier to excuse him for it for the sake of trying to get the full picture he's going for than get mad about it.

[@emdiggy3110]

@@mylam658 yeah try it's just I hear it hundred times already thank you for your feedback it was nice reading your comment

[@aneonfoxtribute]

He literally doesn't like it either, he says that himself in that theory. It's just the thing he thinks makes the most sense. Besides, the theory is fine I think. I don't particularly believe it either but like you're acting like it's Mat being a bad actor in order to fuck with everyone and push his desired theory when it's really not, he has reasons for it and doesn't even really like it that much

[@sirdrake1857]

@@aneonfoxtribute If he didn't like it in some fashion, he wouldn't be so obstinated about thinking it's the correct theory. You may think something is what makes the most sense and not like it and yet still be wrong in your interpretations. Hell, he's got no proof that he's a robot whatsoever except "you're broken", which it's painfully obvious that it's a matter of censoring considering there's literally a cut line about him bleeding

[@aneonfoxtribute]

@@sirdrake1857 He's obstinate about it because he thinks it makes the most sense. I certainly have theories for other series that I don't like, but I believe in anyway because I think they make the most sense. I would prefer the answer to be something else, but based on the evidence I am given I believe in whatever makes more sense.

[@grimace9670]

U gotta admit there’s a strange amount of robot kids in the books, I don’t blame matpat for choosing a more interesting yet weird explanation for Gregory other then the game not properly giving him one

[@siresquawks]

1 set of 4 robot kids. They aren’t anywhere else.

[@grimace9670]

@@siresquawksstill the thing about matpat is that along side being a theorist he’s also an entertainer and giving the explanation “the game didn’t properly give us a background for Gregory” isn’t his style he obviously would go with the more outlandish and interesting theory. I feel People who say he’s stupid for thinking sans is nes or Gregory is a robot don’t understand that

[@RogelioALoya]

@@grimace9670while I agree that the undertale theory wasn’t that bad because it was just for entertainment, but that’s not the situation for the gregbot theory because he’s genuinely trying to convince us he’s a robot, if what your saying is true he is literally trying to shove his fan fiction into the story and find any excuse to explain it

[@higueraft571]

@@grimace9670 Keep in mind how his Ultimate Timeline seems to advertise itself as a Timeline, of what we Know/believe is likely :V Yet within the FIRST part he screws up some basic stuff like how Springlocks work. "Bite of 83 = Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures" namely.

[@NagaYamiyo]

That theory had some good parts but man... He killed it with the need to beat that dead horse that is Robo Greg... I don't even understand how instead of "oh this confirms he was controlled by Glitchtrap!" he went "THIS 100% CONFIRMED GREGBOT!!!"

[@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar]

Next FNAF game will reveal that the everyone was actually a robot all along, and that FNAF happened on Cybertron.

[@codywasson5894]

Another thing that easily debunks the whole Gregory is a robot theory is that he comments on Vanny. So he can see her while Glamrock Freddy couldn’t see Vanny Gregory: “What was that?” Glamrock Freddy “That is a fountain. A fountain is a decorative reservoir used for discharging water.” Gregory: “Not the fountain! You didn’t see the dancing rabbit lady in front of us?” Glamrock Freddy: “No I did not there is no rabbit at the mega pizzaplex… Not anymore.”

[@Toy_freddyofficial1]

I feel like people like to overlook this none of the animatronics see vanny except Roxy due to her special eyes we know this because of the fire ending

[@codywasson5894]

Personally I would love to sit with Matpat and talk it out and show him Gregory can see Vanny because I feel like he’s conversation with Glamrock Freddy gets swept under the rug nowadays

[@denime2727]

This is a really good video I am honestly sick of Robot kids like you said it just wouldn't affect the plot at this point and honestly Gregory being under Glitchtraps control would be way cooler like what if he is full on possesed in Ruin and one of the boss fights is against possesed Gregory and Freddy or smt

[@Xainos28]

Will you be doing vids on Funaff's theories too? His charlie obsesses would be interesting to see your thoughts on.

[@siresquawks]

I have a couple times, but I didn’t have much to say on the latest ones. Some stuff I agree with a lot I don’t, it’s stuff I feel ruin is bound to answer.

[@rishinsenguptagoddestroyer5024]

Theory: Gregbot = Rickroll

[@thisisasupersayin376]

20:35 I think a more apt comparison is that Gregbot is Mat's new "Crying Child has the nightmares".

[@smt64productions40]

I view it as “Crying Child is Mike and came back as a robot” revamp

[@kingofcrap4414]

To be fair, Crying Child having the nightmares was a reasonable assumption to make back in the day, the evidence that deconfirmed it was a relatively recent development.

[@thisisasupersayin376]

@@kingofcrap4414 2018 is considered a recent development for 2023?

[@Daandco.6589]

Here’s a little mini theory: What if Gregory was a real kid But one of the mimics mimicked him and that is the Gregory that we play as being the mimic but also mimicked the crying child, it also can explain Gregory stuttering in the beginning of the game (of course this just a theory)

[@Daandco.6589]

(this is one way they could say Gregory is a robot but I find this one not smart -.-)

[@mikoevelynn111]

I want you and Matpat on GTlive for some theory discussion I think it would be so interesting and I want to hear what arguments Matpat can make for these specific points that debunk the theory

[@DuckingNando]

This video has alot of thought and it has alot of truth about game theory's path about fnaf. What frustrates me the most is basically using the books as a direct narrative to what is happening in the games( sire even mentions it) and for that he should absolutely be in those lives debating lore

[@truegamer7760]

This video summarizes the problem I have with most of the theorists, they keep clinging onto theories that they forget facts. It happened to the fazbear fright preventing the stitchwraith from becoming a unique character by making them into a golden freddy stand-in and nothing else. I think some theorists should stop and take a look the past with stuff like the fazbear frights or silver eyes, and actually try to follow the story.

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

Can we drop robotic kids fuhnaff now doing one on Charliebot or Elizabethbot

[@superlemonslicer1224]

Fuhnaff makes about 18463 theories per day so it's expected that this theory was made

[@GreatRaijin]

Fuhnaff makes the lore unnecessarily complicated. it's really bothersome

[@higueraft571]

@@GreatRaijin It's alwys been unnecessarily complicated, at least it's more sensible/has more proof than Gregbot (usually) :V

[@superlemonslicer1224]

@@GreatRaijin I'm pretty sure there are like 5 videos of him claiming to have solved Ruin before it coma out, it's wailed xD. It also kinda confuses me why he used book stuff. Not like the stichwraith pararels and that one story about that boy that though he was a robot, but using the books events like Canon events that actually happened in the timeline

[@Deadhead-kq4hr]

​​what kind of proof tales from the pizzaplex basically lay it out for you with the mimic being burntrap and already shows you he's copying William more than Charlie all we have for proof are the dumb staff bots and their happens to be nightmare puppet plushie only parallels are Henry and Edwin but it's only kind of similar sliver eyes trilogy was never even Canon and was just a different universe that had the same characters

[@rrss2583]

What the hell is oops all elizabeth? you stop paying attention for like a year in this fandom and everyone is suddenly speaking in code😭

[@siresquawks]

It's a theory Game theory made in which they suggest that basically any potentially female character in Security breach is Elizabeth. Patient 46, Vanessa, and Vanny are all separate models of Elizabeth robots under the theory, which I nicknamed "Oops all Elizabeth" since it didn't really have a set name. Other acronyms and titles used by the fandom include: MCI: Missing childrens incident. (5 kids who posses the classics/withereds) DCI: Random dead kids seen in the save them minigame MSSF: Multiple simultaneous springlock failure, something mentioned in fnaf 3. CBEAR: Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental CBPW: Circus Baby's Pizza World ItP: Into the Pit, which is a short story used for the MCI's date Gregbot: The theory that Gregory is a robot Elizabot: The theory that Elizabeth is rebuilt as a robot or robots Charliebots: you get the idea And countless more.

[@yourmajestysilveroftherats4609]

wasn't it a plot-point in the frights books that kids were drawn to Freddy's locations like specifically one of the characters was named Greg. Like he looks different but still, when I was watching sb be played my first thought wasn't silver eyes it was fetch.

[@painthedoll]

I just wish we buried the whole "everyone coming back" thing as well Because with Afton we at least get a reason why he's "back" But he's not really back, a literal copy cat of him is back but not Afton himself. And Charlie coming back completely is..meh? There could be comparisons sure but i think they're separate beings. The crying child, maybe? But having him be Gregory or whatever for the robot theory just, again, meh. Gregory and Cassie have a relationship outside of the pizzaplex. Weather friends, siblings, or cousins etc. They have a relationship that i want to be new. Give us a new family to follow. Let Ruin be where Afton story ends, maybe give way to a brand new villain in the Glitchtrap cult. Maybe Vanessa really does get free and they all work to help take down the cult or help those effected by it. Vanessa doing what Micheal had done and go from establishment to establishment as a guard or other worker to take on a cult member working there. Idk just seems much more fun then "Afton gonna keep coming back even if its just a virus with his thoughts" hdgd😅

[@CatBoxGMZ]

I dropped of game theory fnaf stuff after Gregory is a robot.

[@YellowSkarmory]

The thing that makes this more annoying to deal with is that the theory was reasonable when it released and yet people dismissed it (and the Crying Child connections) out of hand. Now, because it was a battlefield, people are holding onto their theories and it's so much harder to have reasonable debates.

[@JtCondell]

English, US Start Personally I do think that gregory's not a robot that doesn't mean he can have a connection to the crying child I feel like the connection is not physically but mentally. What am I posing is that one of my thoughts I almost ties up a lot of the characters being similar to old characters like Vanessa being similar to Elizabeth and gregory being similar to the crying child. So what I'm trying to say is that william Afton/ glitch trap whatever what he is at this point is trying to remake his family that's one thing I agreed with game theory but I think they took it too literal I think william choose a specific people that are similar to his children so he can maybe find something with his original children remnant and transfer their conscience or he's pretty much manipulating gregory and Vanessa to be as similar to his old family using manipulation. So what I'm trying to say is in my own Theory is that william Afton is manipulating then to become his own children but one big thing they always listen to what he says and do what he says.

[@vineaccount6832]

That makes actual sense. But he's maybe just so far gone that if something goes wrong, he'll force them to break character and kill someone (the therapists) just to get things back on track.

[@tuc-kaankaraayan]

It might be an overkill but I'd suggest for you to make a list about what pitfalls matpat falls recent(it might have the prioer similar stuff matpat said too). Like a video for matpat to see or something. He is very story oriented and asumption heavy when it comes to theories about these.

[@dio_Brando1888]

It's not attacking someone if you're punching up plus you make some good points.

[@DecoderWalrus]

Hey Sire Squawks. I appreciate you and enjoy your fnaf theory content. Ben 10 (2005) is my favorite cartoon. Do you have a favorite moment from the Ben 10 franchise?

[@mikoevelynn111]

Also, Matpat uses the human faces seen in the Sister Location wall elevator as proof for the theory but I'm pretty sure there are animatronics you can be jumpscared that show this face (or a similar one) being used?

[@TeamTheme]

The editing was great in this video

[@edenengland1883]

the crt effect in FazerBlast is just the helmets we see in the equipment room the Moon filter is really weird though

[@siresquawks]

Do we actually put on the helmets?

[@edenengland1883]

@@siresquawks its not explicitly shown but its implied with the "game over" display and the fazer blast themed health bar and timer

[@thebreadbunny1863]

​@@edenengland1883you can see yourself with the cameras in fazerblast, and Greg is not wearing a helmet.

[@edenengland1883]

@@thebreadbunny1863 yeah, and? Monty's legs vanish when you take his hands, robots just magically get dirty out of nowhere, Alpha-Bots just materialize out of some stone, and you arent seen wearing the Jacket (stealth up) or Sneakers (speed up) after getting them point is we're shown that Fazer Blast helmets exist, you get the filter exactly when you pick up the Fazer Blaster, it goes away when the minigame ends, contains unique Fazer Blast appropriate UI, and theres multiple helmets right next to the blaster we pick up, that should be enough to show the developer intention, the fact that, like every clothing item we get in the game, it doesnt show up, means nothing

[@thebreadbunny1863]

@@edenengland1883 2 out of the 4 things you just described can easily be explained. Montys legs vanish because they were the original intended monty uprade, the robots sustain wear and tear from running around the place (they arent supposed to do this stuff). The appearing bots are clearly non-diegetic, and the same is likely for the CRT filter.

[@Take_2.2]

The lore's actually unsolvable anyway, it's like if we tried to solve all the mysteries in the series with just having access to Fnaf 1 and The Silver Eyes trilogy.

[@Theneongreninja]

I think at this point it's absolutely ridiculous to think at this point that Tales From The Pizzaplex isn't just straight up in the same continuity as the games

[@ivebenhere1843]

I feel like there is just so much more story that could be told in the same universe as the original games; even if they don't have much lore in them it would be cool to have at least one of these stories take place in the game universe.

[@irladovelasquez975]

Glamrock Freddy being Michael Afton theory has left the chat (honestly i hate glamike)

[@vineaccount6832]

I do too, I actually have been compiling evidence that Henry can fill the role better (it's a lot, but since I'm on a device that won't let me receive notifications I will have to leave it there).

[@Serrot1998]

Wow i cant believe you hate matpat!!! 😡 😂😂

[@siresquawks]

Personally. With a BURNING passion.

[@Serrot1998]

@@siresquawks 🤣😂🤣

[@undynlicia7554]

I’m so glad I finally found a video debunking the robot Gregory theory, since the idea always irked me, why does every human character and their mom have to be a robot somehow? I mean, yeah, robo-Gregory is a fun idea, and can work great in fanfiction and AU’s and the like, but it just doesn’t really slot into the main series lore without making huge jumps in logic and cherry-picking your evidence, so thank you for making this video!

[@MoriBoita]

Finally someone said it I like Matpat and the theory crew, but i like only *some* of their newer theories (i like those who dive deep into science math stuff, like "is the minecraft worl actually a cube or a plane" or "how long is luigi's Luigi") Cuss these newer ones, specially fnaf related are so messy Like, dude, there are no reasons for Greg to be a robot, and your arguments are pretty weak honestly "he has delayed reactions and he has stiff movement", what? Am I a robot too? DO WE HAVE ROBOT PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD NOW? don't get me wrong, is the same as only using "USA data for something that's outside US", claiming that greg is a bot and using *this* as explanation is like, denying A HUGE demographic WORLD WIDE who act like that (be partially, delayed reaction or stiff movement. Or full delux special edition combo) And there is the UI thingy who from the very start felt like a unfunny joke he was trying so damn hard to land it, why? Look at all previous fnaf games, we weren't a robot yet we had UI elements, SPECIALLY THE GAME OVER, where you would be met with, you guessed it, a tv looking interference I do like the theorists, i watch and try to enjoy their videos (game theories are the weakest ones by now, even style theory is being more liked by me, it's interesting), but Greg bot is so... Lame? Idk it feels like "changing up the game to fit the theories", but instead he "is changing up the character to have a shocking reveal" In any case, great video dude

[@T4icky]

Gregory is Mangle

[@75JUNAKI]

No he’s Toy Bonnie’s sister’s, cousin’s, dog’s, former owner’s, grandmother’s, mother’s, daughter’s, brother.

[@T4icky]

​@75JUNAKI how could i get that wrong it all makes sencs

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

19:09 I will point out that a big reason this was another thing people dismissed was because it also lists Charlie as a human. I do not believe in Gregbot anymore personally, but this point specifically would not be a big detailI(And the encyclopedia overall is not trustworthy so that too)

[@siresquawks]

I mean it's talking about Charlie the human girl who dies, not Charlie bot except for one sentence at the end. The book has countless errors but this isn't one of them.

[@Golden-berry]

1:32 How can you hack a human brain that's the human brain complex?