FNaF's Strange Little Fisherman

[@thekingslayer2178]

I personally believe Happiest Day as a concept is a spirit remembering their happiest memory in life, which gives them comfort and the ability to move on (like when Jake has a memory of his father in Frights.) So I think the Drowned Ending is called Happiest Day because that’s the memory that was *supposed* to help BV move on, but for whatever reason, it’s locked so deep in his subconscious that he can’t/doesn’t want to remember it. That’s why the Happiest Day we set up in FNaF3 is so dependent on BV’s memories, because the Puppet and the MCI kids are essentially trying to construct a new Happiest Day for BV.

[@Crazykyle2727]

Holy cow u wrote that well

[@felixdeplanques3614]

I really like this interpretation.

[@vanyadolly]

Exactly. In the logbook we literally have Cassidy using Mike's scribbles to ask CC these questions. What does he remember? Is this familiar? What can they use to put him back together and help him move on? Although I think the happiest day in the lake is more associated with Mike.

[@Squishy_the_fox]

This is an amazing take

[@ja-vishaara]

Old Man Consequences just wants to fish, for Pete's sake

[@salahdeanclemens2226]

“He is whatever you want him to be.” Mind of Scott cawthon

[@rold-hx8bu]

This is the majority of FNAF lore

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

This^ Absolutely in this case.

[@24Ippo]

That's one way to call the devil

[@XD-yn6hb]

“There are no holes in the plot, there are only holes in your understanding.”

[@justeliwood2289]

Scott to every character

[@tinaherr3856]

I mean, I alway throught of the UCN scene of Old Man Consequences saying "leave the demon to his demons" basically saying to Cassidy (drowning bear) 'hey, Afton is going to be suffering still, you don't have to stay here and torment him at the expense of your peace. Move on and be at peace'. And Cassidy ignores this and drowns themselves to continue torturing Afton. I haven't heard the interpretation of whoever Drowning Bear is being at peace after going into the lake. Mainly because drowning yourself doesn't exactly scream "Peaceful". It would be quite violent, hence why I always thought it was Cassidy going "screw it" and damning her own self just to make Afton suffer.

[@Lmaocat]

I believe that too! I just dont see how us not following omcs advice would be a GOOD thing

[@latlequin1]

"FUCK YOU GRANDPA *aggressively wiggles into lake*"

[@shadowfox34567]

its not. thats why drowning is how you get back to ucn

[@killerman3715]

Cassidy she get free after listen old man Andrew is one torture afton Andrew canon be the one you shouldn't have killed

[@xcmledder3420]

​@killerman3715 very good parody of a Stitchliner there

[@smashers6971]

My interpretation of OMC of some sort of grim reaper or river Styx ferryman in UCN, often talking to souls before departing them to the afterlife they’re supposed to go to. I think Cassidy still works as the adventure Freddy in UCN, the line “Rest your own soul and leave the demon to his demons” I take it as OMC saying “Look, Afton will still be tortured after you leave, don’t stoop to his level and rest your own soul.” The fact that UCN crashes afterwards kind of helps, Cassidy rests her own soul and her torture simulation ends (Until Afton gets into hell).

[@brad-leelindo25]

I think oldman is a metaphor for decision and the moment you pause to think about it before doing it. he isn't a character he is a representation important moments that decides everything

[@sonicaddictOG]

This is actually a really interesting idea, and it does fit in all the places OMC is found. Fnaf World: adventure Freddy’s decision to travel too far down, and the consequence of being stuck. UCN: TOYSNHK’s decision to keep torturing whoever we play as, or even whoever we play as constantly trying to fight against all the animatronics and “win”. Princess Quest 2: with the interpretation that the Princess is Vanessa, her decision to fight back against Glitchtrap Princess Quest 4: our character’s decision to help free Vanessa/Vanny and destroy Glitchtrap

[@finleyforevermore]

He's a strange little crocodile fisherman. 🐊

[@miagvinjilia]

I think OMC may be an angel, trying to guide William's victims into heaven. Seraphim (one of type of angels) are literally translated as "burning ones." They are also associated with reptilian imagry, which may explain OMC's appearance (being red and having a crocodile head).

[@somethingwithbungalows]

Y’know that makes a whole lot of sense with Scott being a Christian and all

[@vanyadolly]

What? Just about every other game developer in the world is Christian. There has never been any Christian imagery in the games so far.

[@somdudewillson]

@@vanyadolly I have no idea where you're getting the idea that most game devs are christian.

[@vanyadolly]

@@somdudewillsonwestern civilization is predominantly christian. We're all culturally christian if not religiously.

[@soundwavesuperior7531]

​@@vanyadollyScott made a lot of Christian games and animated Christian movies before he made FNaF

[@porcelainchips6061]

Defining the Flipside will tell us who OMC is - We really focus on characters, but perhaps focusing on their placement or location can tell us more. OMC is sitting in the deepest part of the code and that right there is informing us of something; notice that the deeper you go, the older and more primative the graphics are. I believe that is Scott telling us that all of this is build on top of other things; FNAF World is not a game that exists in a vacuum; it is a program built on top of another, built on top of another. Consider programing languages/programing codes; most are new "short hand" or "simplified" methods meant to be more natural to use/more user friendly; though the reality is most things still run, at their core, on Machine Language or binary. Everything written in python then has to get converted down, down, down into raw ones and zeros. OMC sits at the bottom; below the layers of updates, replacement assets and everything. The way you travel on the flipside is also reminiscent to the shape of your hard drive disk; the information stretched around the disk and divided into sectors. The reason the flipside is a "short cut" is you are traveling around the physical diskspace instead of through the game; you are moving through the machine's hardware at that point, popping back up into the software. So OMC is also an entity who use to be able to travel outside of the game, through the actual machine and then got stuck here. And now you are stuck here. Perhaps the lake represents the unknown; it might be the "delete" hole, basically; maybe jumping in just deletes you from the system (a very stylish recycling bin)... Or... Do you drown... And are born again, so to speak? Do you step in, submerge, drown and wake up outside the machine? Maybe it is the exit and maybe, if you want to move on, you have to leave the machine to become a "free spirit" again? You have to stop hiding inside FNAF World to transcend into a new form? And maybe, whoever OMC is, is not interested in stepping into the unknown. Maybe he isn't sure if he wants to know what's next for him?

[@jonstrunonbro1169]

👏👏👏

[@r-oxra]

I always found it weird that a gator was OMC in red, then Monty came around with red hair. Idk it's been something in the back of my mind for awhile. Also, swamp life.

[@vincentmorris8431]

OMC is linked to Golden Freddy, and that plush is in Monty's room.

[@endymon5240]

I think that OMC is the representation of the subconscious. He exists in everyone, and is content to sit on the sidelines if the associated person keeps on living. In FNAF World, the events take place in CC's mind (I think). Going too deep into his mind reveals OMC, separate from the rest of the mind. When you drown in the lake, you are denying the idea of life for the sake of life, and moving on. In UCN, OMC is from William's mind, which is significantly different from CCs. William has 'died' a bjillion times, and maybe the subconscious has learnt that death is not a bad thing. Leave the demon to his demons, another death can't be that bad (albeit this part of the interpretation falls a bit short). In the princess quest games, the technology at this time has a lot to do with changing the mind (Glitchtrap, mimic, ect), so OMC being a major player again is not to farfetched. People have been driven insane by these games, determined to keep playing them; after all, a part of them lives on in those games.

[@porcelainchips6061]

OMC is in Princess Quest, because Princess Quest is built on top of FNAF World - If it is a literal game, and if Fazbear continues it's habit of recycling and salvaging everything, then Princess Quest could just be built on top of FNAF World. And if it is, perhaps OMC has found a way to travel into it; maybe he did jump into the pond eventually and that's what met him on the other side, or perhaps he continued to refuse to see what was on the other side, and instead found a new path into Princess Quest.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

Old Man Consequences is Old Man Consequences.

[@elsen_zone2]

You forgot to mention that, when you speed up the background audio that play While talk to omc, you can hear someone screaming for help

[@siresquawks]

Yeah but that’s common knowledge. I felt it wasn't required as it didn’t have to do with a lot of my thoughts on the matter.

[@mr.undertale6653]

I actually didn't know that

[@Zantorm]

He truly is a strange fisherman

[@smt64productions40]

Imagine if OMC just turn out to be “Old Man Character” or “Old Man Caretaker” this entire time for PQ4

[@TengryEmily1982]

Obvious Mystical Creature

[@wsurviver8376]

I would argue old man conspicuous is more similar to the man behind the tree than Gaster, I think cassedy is more similar to gaster overall because they play a much larger role but are rarely directly awcknoleged and even though Gaster is still extremely vauge as of Deltarune we have alot more things directly linked to them instead of them just being basically non existent (please note that some interpretations have the man behind the tree and Gaster being the same person but aside from them both being mysterious theirs not much directly linking them)

[@muanims]

Its kinda funny despite the lack of clear connections like you said, most people already just say gaster is the man behind the tree

[@Pinkooru]

@@muanims It's a child leave them be

[@randomrhino4371]

​@@muanims Wing Dings for egg is the path a Knight moves in chess. Maybe just a coincidence but still pretty cool

[@muanims]

@@Pinkooru hm?

[@mj3.0]

Omg a fan of Undertale and fnaf

[@latlequin1]

I mean, who's to say that a spirit that's been freed isn't able to influence the world of the living anymore? I think what happened is that Cassidy was like "okay, I'm ready to move on- GOD FUCKING DAMMIT THERE'S A ROBOT COPYING AFTON, COME ON GRAMPS WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THAT ARCADE MACHINE" Also, regarding Princess Quest, I don't think it's as simple as being either Vanessa or Cassidy... I think it's both. I don't know how, maybe Cassidy fused their soul to Vanessa's or something like that, but there's just too many things connecting the Princess to both characters that it kinda has to be both of them.

[@TactlessC]

The interpretation that he is a creature with jaws being Henry might have to do with how Henry's animatronics were designed OR it's just a matter of it was a cool distinctive design and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[@bewtnewt]

0:03 i would say cassidy fits the chara roll better

[@muli9463]

hw 2 gives many more clues that cassidy is the princess, not only does it show us that the tombs of princess quest 1 were from the mci, but it also rules out the vanessa princess by vanessa being with gregory at that time and cassie princess, leaving only the Cassidy option

[@justice8718]

It gives hints that OMC is William Afton (The Glitchtrap handing you plushies).

[@porcelainchips6061]

FNAF world is Cyberpunk (the genre, not the videogame) - FNAF World in official material is sometimes referred to as an MMO. It is a real game; an early Massive Multiplayer Gaming Space like Ultima Online, Tibia or Furcadia (there are even older MMOs from the early 1990s and even further back you have the text-based MUDs on telnet). The supernatural element of FNAF insists that there is a crossover between the supernatural and the machine; there is "life" after death, spirits are real and they can be transmuted into machines; they can inhabit and merge with the software and hardware (Springtrap still having to obey the suit's original programing as evidence). FNAF World is a digital environment that is old enough for the spirits to have run into at some point; it's one of the arcade cabinets or something (as late as the early 2000s, arcades sometimes would link-up up to 20 machines of a multiplayer shooter to create a perpetual LAN party, with the machines usually divided up into even-number teams that were placed as clumps some distance between each. I was the snotty kid that wound run around and tattle to other teams what the guys over there were doing). We the player character are a "new game" started by someone or something; the player character we move around the screen in no one, but the person using the controls is someone. Although it would make sense that the player-character-player could be a disembodied spirit interfacing with the machine, another option is that we are a human who boots up the game and the ghosts in the machine hijack our gaming experience; tasking us with helping them to accomplish something. Perhaps the reason they are so coded in their speech about "what went wrong" or why we are even doing this is because they are trying not to scare the human-player away; they need that person to manipulate the game to get what they want and don't want to scare the player into turning off the machine/turning off the game. Retroactively this human could be anyone, if that's who we are; it's possible Scott wanted to go really meta and make that person literally Us, ourselves, not a fictional character.

[@casmd2131]

Personally I always thought OMC was an angel just trying to the kids to move on.

[@cjr4444]

I've always felt like mr consequences has more lore relevance then what people gave him credit for so its nice to see a theory about him

[@GhostRose6500]

I think Old Man Consequences is just some ancient, pure super natural being that lives in the depths of the afterlife. No soul of any other character behind him. He’s ‘show I interpret him and Cassidy: I think Cassidy is the bear we play is at least in UCN, because we get to forest or area or whatever when he shows up in the office and catches a fish, presumably from his lake. This tells me that the fish is representative as Cassidy and the lake is representative of UCN. OMC tells Cassidy to move on but she doesn’t listen and jumps right back into the lake/UCN. Now we know from Fazbear’s Frights that UCN isn’t really a form of hell but rather a grand nightmare for William being kept alive in a dormant state, something OMC tells us to let go of. That’s one of a few reasons why I still believe that William Afton himself is still directly involved with Glitchtrap/Burntrap’s identity. This narrative of the antagonist’s antagonist. Cassidy’s and wants are getting in the way of her responsibilities and now she has to pay the price for it in Help Wanted - Help Wanted 2, where Afton only does a lot more harm to a lot people. So of course, Cassidy returns as the Princess and OMC gets involved to defeat William/Glitchtrap. At least I believe that’s a better narrative than just Cassidy going after a dumb AI that has nothing to do with her or her plans and going after it would just seem way too out of character. Especially when in her mind she’s already won, she has William in UCN in this timeline and he seemingly hasn’t left. It just wouldn’t make sense for her to do that.

[@TheCollector2401]

One thing I thought of is the “Happiest Day” text along with the text that is supposed to appear alongside the other endings is unused. So maybe the drowning ending could’ve been more connected to happiest day earlier in development but then was changed to whatever it is now. Only problem with this is that means drowning isn’t moving on and setting souls free which kinda goes against the UCN Easter egg.

[@vanyadolly]

It makes sense as Mike's happiest day. The MCI kids still have the happiest day we saw in fnaf3, it's just later than we thought. UCN only says that Cassidy stayed behind, which doesn't conflict with happiest day. In the good end screen from fnaf3, Golden Freddie's head is not there with the others, and her gravestone is covered at the end of fnaf6.

[@ShinyRowletGuy]

I absolutely love old man consequences because of how strange he is. And I love how there isn't really an answer.

[@kalh2389]

I always thought of him a Fnaf-ified interpretation of satan. Red color scheme, reptile type design, plus the idea of hell is basically just a place to punish you for the bad things you do in your life aka consequences. Of course he seems a lot more calm and nice than most versions of satan in media, but I just can’t get over the idea he’s a red reptile man (now king which also fits the theme) leading you to the afterlife not being some sort of satan symbolism.

[@kalh2389]

He also mentions demons in his speech.

[@kittywar123]

That would also help his out of nowhere appearance in ultimate custom night, if he really is meant to be important

[@corbeaudejugement]

satan doesn't do any punishing in the bible- he's the first inmate in the prison. he's being punished, just like everyone else in hell.

[@systemprogramstartup]

I believe he's the grim reaper

[@erickavarney3957]

You might be onto something here. Hell is sometimes referred to as the lake of fire. So it could be connected to the lake in the mini game

[@Hex.A.Decimal]

Really great video. You summed it all up very well. I share the frustration of how "if, then" fails in later FNaF. OMC is just an abstract idea personified imo. Maybe a very old core memory repurposed. I don't even know if he is supposed to be a gator that's just how we interpreted faceless teeth. Might just be the last thing BV saw... But now he is an old man. Scary. I think that cutscene is another Happiest Day AND the inside of *the box* that never opened. The pieces put together is BV remembering who he is. (Also SL really redefined a lot of this. I think the identity of the three figures changed. Now it is Probably Mike, BV, and Elizabeth. But back then it was probably Puppet or Henry, Mike, and BV.) It makes sense that BV's HD has to be unlocked by a different method, BV died a different way and was probably confused and conflicted more than anything else. But it raises questions about how his memories exactly are used for the other Happiest Day and if the two can coexists... And why drowning? That has so many negative connotations. Is BV refusing to die? Has the kid been in a coma for a decade and that's what FNaF World is about? Is this a sort of flipped Room 1280? Or does someone have to give up their Happiest Day in order to hold all the memories so the rest can move on? (Also BV's memories were probably what kept Mike alive after the Scuping, so I would assume BV ultimately forgave him. I wish we saw that arc more clearly than confused scribbles literally between the lines in a supplementry Logbook.) I'm playing with the idea that "Lorekeeper" is a role and at any given time one restless soul has to stay behind to remember and bear the burden. The Princess being that soul and thusly what is left of all of them. We are later given that role when we retrieve all the 'memories'. Mike probably held it for a while. Gaster unironically makes much more logical in universe sense than OMC, Redbear, and the Princess. I have rambled, forgive me.

[@senatorarmstrong9673]

This old man has a lot of consequences

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

I always believed he's at least one incarnation of Death itself

[@CreativelyJake]

OMC is simply a representation. there is no one person that OMC is. i mean, him being a parallel to henry could work easily if you just dont try to put logic into who someone is in the "this place is literally the absolute depths of someones mind" def weirldy canon-not-canon-but-still-canon-but yeah

[@NedstarYouTube]

I think old man consequences is the devil, if ucn is a form of torment, or hell even, it makes so much sense for him to say, "leave the demon to his demons" which is pretty much him saying "I'll take it from here, you can move on". And in fnaf world, you get him by going too deep in the sub tunnels, which could relate to spiritual plains in some religious texts, with hell being the lowest.

[@danius_huganius]

"Don't go too deep, or else there will be Consequences" some very chill old man named consequences:

[@Anonyomus_commenter]

7:17 I thought the image was Mike and his siblings- Mike’s bullying of CC being perhaps brought on by peer pressure or similar- or them just being brothers and not always acting the same way to each other. The other would be Elizabeth who was younger than CC (right?). Side note- what if Mrs Afton died in childbirth with Elizabeth. That would explain why William is so much more protective of her than he is of the boys (especially if they looked very similar) and also why she isn’t present for the games. This obviously only works if Elizabeth is the youngest.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

I think OMC is a metaphor for death. Going too deep into Fnaf World which represents a spiritual world is a final death, drowning in the lake accepting death, and moving on. OMC is urging us to accept death and rest our souls, while Afton, who is not in the lake, cannot move on and therefore cannot die. He cries out to Mike or Henry on the other side of the lake to take him with them, but like the biblical story of Lazarus and the rich man, he is refused and left to suffer for eternity.

[@tomasns6584]

Drowning is definetivly NOT resting, I'd say is the opposite in fact, cassidy could just rest and fish with the old man but decides to go even deeper, since they don't want aftons suffering to end yet. it a rejection of OMC.

[@the_fallen_redditor6693]

So what did we learn today kids?

[@NotAnyoneImportantRightNow]

Given the digital nature of the Flipside/accessing the Flipside, I think that understanding the Flipside will give us a way of ironing out more of the post 6 world. I think it is possible to interpret the Flipside as a memetic reflection of the real world, where the collective subconscious/ideaspace is the default. In that same vein, the last part of a person to die is the memory of them, so maybe it is an aspect of the afterlife or an avenue for accessing it. Old Man Consequences with this perspective is likely some sort of persistent figure that exists in the space. His initial association with water could be a Styx-esque reference (as a stretch), so perhaps he is meant to ferry souls to the afterlife through the Flipside. Unfortunately he has to contend with unruly souls like Cassidy and William that can act in a way that allows them to keep existing past death. In the case of Cassidy, her hatred of William is likely enough that it allowed her to bind his spirit for torture in the Flipside via UCN. But UCN isn't a perfect cage and through the repeated cycles of torture, William is able to defeat what Cassidy can invoke. In fact, the presence of OMC in the roster implies that he was willing to take part if it meant making Cassidy understand and move on. OMC returning in a different form with Princess Quest helps this interpretation, as he is a ruler of some sort. Maybe as humanity's technology progresses in FNAF, the Flipside (and OMC as a result) are still existent but are subverted by another manmade layer of digital existence. Digital phantoms like Glitchtrap are able to operate without consequence hence his presence and avenues for hijacking humans like Vanessa and Gregory (assuming GGY is indicating Gregory is in fact a former Glitchtrap possession). Man, it is easy to ramble about fnaf.

[@lefthandedidiot]

Love watching your videos!!

[@spongebobguy2cook]

Honestly if he had to be a prier character if say hes Phone Guy Phone Guy died about 1993 giving time for him to be there Phone Guy can be linked to the Flipside via one of the last things he'd say before the night of his death "see you on the flipside"

[@TheRealSuperRabbid]

Honestly, that makes a lot of sense.

[@smt64productions40]

Phone Guy: Hello, hello.

[@heyittgsf]

First second of the vid and it already based Thought i was the only one who saw OMC as the Gaster of FNAF 😭

[@smollmoth6376]

I always say omc as a representation of an entity that is....something like a watcher over the area between life and death. The series has a lot to do with ghosts stuck in this unending state of purgatory that causes them to be so violent and omc definitely has something to do with that but I don't think as a major player but as a message. Like how I interpret the ucn incarnation that omc is talking to whoever is keeping William in ucn and trying to convince them that either they need to let go for their own sake or that they need to let go and let everyone of the spirits in the ucn roster rest. Idk about fnafhw2 or world, though. I also believe that diving into the lake isn't acceptance but an act of defiance. In fnaf world you were explicitly warned and yet you ignored the warnings and saw the consequences in the form of omc, but instead of patiently waiting with them you went a fifth layer down, though idk what to make of the events after. In ucn you once again are told to let go and yet you defy them again, and I think this Morales with the golden freddy writhing scen in the game.

[@wilamblack8372]

Hopefully going forward with the new era of fnaf they can explain this flipside more and what the happiest day is.

[@hioman]

I think it's possible that OMC is an angle (or angel, whichever one isn't the rotational distance between 2 lines). We know Scott is a Christian, and we know that Christianity is in fnaf because Henry mentions the devil and hell, so it's entirely possible that Christianity is the canon religion of FNaF. Now for evidence that OMC is an angle... I got nothin'

[@dr.coomerclone146]

If I’m feeling like a conspiracy theorist, I would hypothesize that it’s a relative. Maybe it’s an uncle he went on a fishing trip with and it’s just what the crying child sees as a memory where there wasn’t any scary animatronics or murderous father, a memory that seemed the most normal to him. In UCN it’s that relative trying to comfort you telling you to let go. If I’m feeling like a crack head I might say it’s Aston’s first partner, somebody trying to help Afton by making sure the kids don’t have a happiest day(not being released from the robots) trying to make the spirits let go of his body so he can control it, and the management voice we hear talking to Vanessa in the security breach Trailer, the one who put her as the recommendation because of princess quest, and put the pizzaplex on top of FNaF 6. If I’m feeling chill… I’d say it’s Henry… a piece of him in his robotics Afton stole to try and save his kid. And his soul after the FNaF 6 fire telling the children to let go and let the suffering end… “And if your parents REALLY love you” it’s an adaptation of death, the grim reaper, guide of lost souls trying to put them all in the past tense

[@sageseraph5035]

A few things to say: -Something people often neglect to mention is the very obvious Old Man Consequences reference at the end of Fazbear Frights. Jake walks into the ball pit and fades away. Hence the end of UCN is a spirit letting go. This is certainly the actual ending of UCN because this crashes your game. UCN is because of the vengeful spirit so the only character that makes sense to rest and so end UCN is the vengeful spirit. -This implies very much to me that the characters in PQ are the vengeful spirit and Old Man Consequences, but I don’t think the princess is Cassidy. I’m a weird minority that thinks everyone misunderstood what the logbook was saying. In a nutshell, Cassidy is BV’s name, not the vengeful spirit. The vengeful spirit’s name isn’t revealed unless stitchline games is true, then it’d be Andrew, but GF being a princess makes that awkward. Another reason to not believe in Stitchline games. -To briefly lay out what I think is going on in the logbook, there are obviously two ghosts talking, but it’s incorrect to split them into faded text and altered text. If you hold this consistently, it will form contradictions and oddities. Both use both kinds of text. Whoever writes “MY NAME” on all the Cassidy name pages is altering numbers on those pages to give you their name. Cassidy also alters the word search to have “It’s me” written all throughout it. If BV is a different character meant to give his name in the foxy grid, why does the foxy grid have faded letters at the beginning? Faded text then is just ghostly text. Like whispers coming from the book. The ghosts can also alter the pages. Then the simpler explanation is that only one ghost is questioning the other. The ghost who writes in faded text “Do you remember your name?” is the same one who writes in the word search “Who are you? What is your name?” The whole story of the logbook is a spirit trying to jog the memory of the Bite Victim to make him remember his name. In the end he does remember his name, Cassidy. Also in that word search is the one place the name Afton is. Cassidy Afton. One extra thing I’ll add to my logbook explanation is that in FNAF 6 there’s the two graves at the end, one for Charlotte/the Puppet and one for Golden Freddy. The name of the top one is filled in by the end of the fourth closet, Charlotte Emily. There’s only one grave left to be filled by the logbook. Hence there’s only one name to find in the book. I think the Foxy Grid and Tallies are just things to hint to the reader they should be looking out for wrong numbers and the Foxy Grid that you can get a message through a grid.

[@marcelosimao2533]

I really like the interpretations in the OMC.

[@mr_JackSchwarze]

I think leave the demon to his demons is talking to Cassidy telling her to stop tormenting afton tbh.

[@FlameBinder55]

It would be pretty crazy if OMC was the Phone Guy this entire time. Idk just a hunch.

[@smt64productions40]

PhoneConsequences

[@nicodianime]

It could be the cumulative agomy of mike, seeing all his father has done, and himself has as well. He wants solace for his brother at least. And the others, but his brother foremost. Leave that demon to his demons, lil bro has suffered enough.

[@FTZPLTC]

>"FNAF world looks like a brain" *cries* Like... a little bit? But if someone set out to *make* it look like a brain, I feel like they'd do a better job than that.

[@siresquawks]

I mean it still has to be a playable map of a video game.

[@thephonelad992]

again i think more people should check out that one 8 hour lore explain video cause it really does provide some good theories-

[@FlimFlemFlom]

I think it's henry's spirit

[@redjirachi1]

I always thought Old Man Consequences in UCN is Henry. He put the effort into trying to put everyone to rest. He wants Cassidy to let go; there is no reason to torture William at this point.

[@Viper-s1j]

I personally think the two Old Man Consequences' are two different characters who mirror each other. 1. I think by the time of UCN, OMC was turned into the one William Shouldn't Have Killed. Henry promised the gates of Hell have opened up, and to not keep the Devil waiting. OMC's realm, like UCN, has thematic correlation with Hell. And we hear the screams of William within his realm. OMC also tells Cassidy to leave the demon to his demons. UCN is Afton being left to his demons, as Vengeful Spirit watches. So he is seemingly telling Cassidy to leave Afton to UCN. UCN and TMIR1280. Afton's screaming in his realm, in my opinion, is because he is hanging from OMC's rope in the memory lake, using him as bait for his personal demons. Afton unable to reach the bottom, unlike Cassidy, who makes it to her Happy Memory. The name can also be easily interpreted as him being the consequences of Afton, an old man. We also see UCN being influenced by Deedee, who is associated with FNAF World, lakes and fishing like OMC, and has a shadow form. In TMIR1280, The One William Should Not Have Killed wears what seems like a Monty Gator mask (OMC being very Gator/Croc-like), making the old man suffer consequences, and has a shadow form like Deedee's. Andrew's shadow form is also refers to as the Shadow, which Nightmare calls out in UCN, implying his prescience. ITP even implies Andrew being hanged in some way by Afton, a visual parallel to OMC. It was even supposed to be OMC with party hat #6 originally. The music for UCN's roster is also "Eisoptrophobia", the fear of mirrors. Because they are all reflections, including OMC. Implying OMC might be from Afton's past as well. In SB, a Golden Freddy plush is also found in the destroyed room of Monty, who has thematic correlation with Andrew. Like how Cassidy shows up in OMC's realm in UCN. Andrew as OMC being kinder to Cassidy can be easily explained by them knowing each other in life, and their shared tragedy. 2. Much like Glitchtrap isn't literally Afton and the Princess isn't literally Cassidy or Vanessa, PQ's OMC might not be the original OMC. In my opinion, he is the Mimic. In SB, we first meet him deep underground with a bunch of glowing mushrooms, him being sealed away behind a concrete doorway, which the Princess frees him from, liek what happens in RUIN. In this same PQ, it seems like it's eluding to the yellow flames of the Princess and the purple Glitchtrap flame are extensions of the Old Man's flame. The Old Man even sem sto use the purple flame as he tells the Princess to rest. Just like how in Balloon World, which seems connected to Gregory's infection, we see a version of Sun/Moon with colors more reminiscent of the Mimic, telling BB (Gregory) goodnight as he uses the purple glitch, just leek the Old Man. And it further-more ties into the idea of the sinister Glitchtrap and the Golden Freddy-based code being opposites of each other birthed from the same entity. Moon represents Glitchtrap, the Virus. Sun presents Dreadbear, who COD implies is an Anti-Virus. And Dark Eclipse would be the Mimic. Strengthening the idea that OMC's realm is a prison for something sinister. Tangle, who is a reflection of Afton's misdeeds like UCN, is even associated with the sinkhole, has eyes colored like the Old Man's flame, and is a monster with multiple heads like Cerberus, who TMIR1280 assosiates with Andrew. And finally, in HW2, we find the Old Man sealed away behind a wall, which Jeremy opens up, again, like in RUIN. The wall a picture of the Storyteller above it. He is then the one to give Jeremy Glitchtrap's code, allowing us to enter the claw machine controlled by Vanny. In my opinion, this is the Mimic replacing Glitchtrap with Vanny as it's new favorite apprentice, SB implying Vanny is a piece of code like him. I think the Mimic was trading Glitctrap for a new vessel for Vanny, Cassie being the one who gets chosen.

[@theredchannel8734]

I think he's Henry Emily trying to tell Cassidy to rest are maybe a stretch maybe Cassidy's dad idk

[@perihelion1225]

Easily in my top 3 characters! Thank you for this!!!

[@bathilra5364]

He really does fish and is red

[@sharkanenoa5928]

He’s the DEVIL, over watching the horrific events that surround the Freddy Fazbear murders and beyond.

[@bossco839]

I think UCN Redbear could be Cassidy (under CassidyTOYSNHK) Cassidy (Golden Freddy, a bear) is getting convinced by Old Man Concequences to leave William to his demons, not the ones secreted for her own pleasure. OMC is telling Cassidy tet William die ago to hell, tho HIS demons (Also Cassidy being Redbear matches PQ under Princes Cassidy and it would als match if Cassidy is the drowning girl)

[@emeraldjolteon1472]

i think that omc is kinda of like cerberus. where he guard the way to the afterlife in the fnaf world. and since you can only really stay or jump in the lake in the omc area. I think that he is pretty much saying... You either,jump in now and continue to "live" or you wait here until you're ready to let go.

[@fnaf-ology]

Maybe the real old man consequences was the friends we made along the way

[@heeheehaw393]

the fnaf world lake looks similar to fnaf help wanted 2 curse of dreadbear pond that appears to be on the afton property, he could have gone there to chill when alive to relax and de-stress, so pretty much a happy place. also the afton house is in the trick or treat level and on the hill if i remember correctly

[@smt64productions40]

Chara and BV being compared is still funny to me

[@Kappuccino_mug]

I always considered Golden Freddy to be the Fnaf equivalent to Gaster, Both are easter eggs and have a die hard fan base.

[@randomrhino4371]

My interpretation has always been that the bear is Cassidy's vengeful side whilst OMC represents the part of her that just wants to rest, and the lake is her moving on in her own separate Happiest Day. I'd never really considered the possibility of the bear not being Cassidy because that was what everyone else said and I never really thought to consider other possibilities. That being said, the BV interpretation is pretty interesting! Just like the Castermind theory, it goes really well with the combination of GoldenDuo and MoltenMCI Alter-S, as that would give a great explanation for him being there, and also gives a nice conclusion to his character, I'll definitely consider making that my interpretation!

[@johnathanarcher1487]

Happiest Day scene could be one of two things. Either it is William, Michael and Bite Victim happily watching TV, OR it is Elizabeth, Michael, and Bite Victim happily watching TV. Bite Victim's happiest day definitely wouldn't happen in a restaurant.

[@docrilas]

It's Scott with he's kids

[@currentdeadbydaylightplayer]

FNAF world is so underrated

[@AloneTheorist]

Glitchtrap according to help wanted 1 came about when a suspiciously Springtrap like circuit board was scanned into an incomplete vr game to accelerate completion of the project. This caused the coding from the 'flesh covered' circuit board to 'take hold on it's own'. This meanes a fragment of William Afton combined with the mimic AI program to produce Glitchtrap. Also this explains the obsession with escaping into the real world that Glitchtrap has exhibited ONLY in this one game, his human element wants to live again and is seemingly willing to do anything to do so. This means his human element leaves and becomes burntrap but also explains the difference in behaviour of Glitchtrap in hw2, he is now back to being a pure ai program, free of supernatural corruption and as such works within the pre constructed patterns he has observed throughout the games of the past and security breach itself.

[@Grimkeeper17]

I think fnaf world is outside of time much like, afterlifes, spirit realms, other worlds, a higher dimensions ect.. and exist both before and after in its own little dimension where its the heart of the thread of and where the multiverse of fnaf intertwines/intersects where each universe bleeds in and out of. Just how its always come off to me atleast.Seems like it was made to connect each separate canon all together in a way.

[@Jormundgandr-jg5xg]

I want so badly to see OMC in the next clickteam FNAF World game I think is in development… because it is one of my favourite characters in the games lol

[@WeakFreak]

I wonder if Old Man Consequences by the red lake is an endo skeleton. the design is too detailed as 8bit to just be a crocodile or anything like that. since that game was styled in 1-bit style, it makes me think this could possibly be related to the first victim of animatronics fused with human souls.

[@jetperson3billion439]

New SireSquawks video. 🤖

[@Wapako]

I think you get wrong what is the meaning of the phrase of Old man consequences. So he says to leave afton to his demons and rest, he seems to talk to Cassidy (which explain the bear) who is tormenting forever Afton in UCN. Old man is just stating a fact: Afton is dead, you need to move on like the others.

[@vanyadolly]

It's not BV because fnafWorld is about setting up the consequent minigames to make happiest day available for him, because he can't do it on his own. Glitchbear says "You need to leave breadcrumbs FOR HIM." If it's any of the characters, it's Mike who was helping Cassidy set up the minigames, and the "consequences" are that he's stuck here, being told he can't help William who's screaming his name. He wanted to stop his father, but I doubt it's as simple as him not feeling anything for him being tortured and pleading for mercy. The image shown in the lake suggests it's someone whose "happiest day" would be that picture; watching TV with his arms around the siblings he lost. I think it's made relatively clear that Charlie, BV and four of the MCI kids moved on in Happiest Day, and that this was also the lore ending for fnaf6 judging by the gravestones. In fnaf3, the fifth kid puts on the Golden Freddie mask and moves on, but the mask is still missing in the end game screen. Ie. Cassidy stayed behind, and that's the same ending we have in UCN. Happiest Day either already happened, or is happening. My preferred theory is that this is meta same way fnafWorld is and it's Scott telling the player (us) that the story is about to end. Alternatively he could be persuading Cassidy to let go of tormenting William and find peace, or it's Mike and Henry.

[@higueraft571]

12:58 Dont really have much for or against Cassidy being Adventure Freddy, but i CAN answer why Cassidy wouldnt be tormenting Afton as a Vengeful spirit, though it does rely on an assumption. Would it be possible for Glitchtrap to go into William's mind and PRY the Enragement Child off his mind, and dump her somewhere she cant be a problem from, on her own? It'd require Glitchtrap being able to interact with something supernatural, latched onto a mind, and being able to overcome/move it. Animatronic programming DOES consistently screw over/override the host's intent, but i dont think it's certain it can go THAT far... But it would perfectly explain why William escaped UCN and Cassidy is elsewhere at least. As for my interpretation for OMC? Some sort of supernatural figure, in a SENSE similar to the Shadows, but Different, somehow. Several people who seem to be entirely unrelated have seen and interacted with him, if we assume all 3 appearances (HW1/2, UCN, FNAF World) are different people he's interacting with. Is it a stretch? Absolutely, and i'm not certain about it at all. But it would explain how he appears in World, UCN, and HW.

[@TheLogicist]

Good video. I agree with you that drowning bear can't be Cassidy; really good callout.

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

Something that I thought of as I’m watching along, what if the lake is an alternate Happiest Day that’s not for Bite Victim, or at least not only for BV, but also for Mike? I’m not sure if I’m quite making sense but I don’t think OMC is Mike, I think Mike is the larger kid in the memory, the middle figure is their mom, and Bite Victim is going to rest and join his brother and mom in the afterlife. Idk it’s just something I thought of.

[@Wizardjones69]

i think omc is the consequences of all fnaf characters actions, not a specific character

[@someonecool8533]

old man consequences is the ice cream jumpscare dude from the fnaf book's grandpa

[@Kitty255Again]

So Old Man Consequences is Gaster. What, so now Freddy is Sans, Ness, and MatPat?

[@siresquawks]

And Pomni too.

[@Kitty255Again]

@@siresquawks wait till MatPat sees this theory, he's gonna be proud of the community he made.

[@smt64productions40]

I think Puppet is Toriel and Elizabeth is Asriel

[@Kitty255Again]

@@smt64productions40 Cassidy is Chara, Michael is Frisk, and No.1 Crate is the Greater Dog.

[@smt64productions40]

@@Kitty255Again It all make sense

[@Fredboyos]

I believe Old Man Consequences is Andrew and Red Bear is the BV, though I don't have much evidence for it. OMC looks like an alligator which Andrew is described to be wearing a mask of in Frights and well- I'm a believer of AndrewTOYSNHK therefore there's a reason why he exists in that place. Meanwhile BV is the Bear of Vengeance being told to leave William to his demons and to rest his soul instead of endlessly watching him suffer for killing his friends (also more stuff that I feel like would sound more of a fanfic, the same for Andrew and his relationship with BV).

[@jh66444]

My theory is that Cassidy put her soul to rest in the OMC easter egg in UCN and she came back from the afterlife to stop William one final time, with her putting herself to rest being what caused Afton to escape Hell in the first place (also, I believe that Burntrap/Glitchtrap is William Afton, I’ll be in the ground before I recognize the Mimictrap theory)

[@killerman3715]

You ignored fact ucn story get continues in fazbear frights story the man in room 1280 Andrew/vengeful spirit wear mask look like old man consequence but colour green not red

[@cammerslee]

i thought the whole thing about the eyes was that it was a teaser for circus baby

[@Osanosa]

bro learned to use bloom effect

[@EastPort10]

Princess Quest 2 I feel is a direct parallel to The Lake. OMC tells us at the end of PQ2 that we've completed our mission and that there's nothing left to do. Despite this, we ignore him and decide to go though a glitched door as to continue. In the lake scene, OMC tells us to sit down with him and that there's nothing else to do. Despite this, we ignore him and go though a glitch in the lake as to continue. So when you say at about 5:49 "we are told 'don't do it rest' and we seemingly just do" I have to disagree. Entering the lake is inherently refusing to rest. Refusing to let all of this end.

[@Eterco]

IT'S PHONE GUY

[@johnathanarcher1487]

The lake noise reminds me of Chica's voice from UCN. I'm not implying that it's Chica at the lake, just that the noise seems similar. Maybe it's nothing.

[@higueraft571]

It's him... The Guy.

[@Xainos28]

Now that the Old man is confirm to be OMC in HW2, this is how I theorized him (bare in mind, I don't see fnaf world part of the canon lore) The scene in UCN is of OMC fishing in the lake which is the opening of Hell in a sense, he tells Cassidy to leave the demon to his demons, yet Cassidy follows William down to continue tormenting him, that is why the main ending of UCN is Golden Freddy still existing cause Cassidy isn't letting him go, OMC told him rest his own soul but he refused. Because of this leads to William finding a way out in HW when Faz E started using parts to make the game, later on when Switch released made PQ to tell the story of the tapes, the princess is Cassidy trapped in the game as the song for PQ is called "Caught in a loop" a cycle to never end. This is also made sure that in the SB maintenance log was clear to say "I guess the devs pulled it from that old mobile game. Why port to arcade?" which gave Cassidy the freedom to escape the mobile game and continue chasing Afton. With now the arcades of PQ not working unless you play them chronologically in order. This also confirming more of Cassidy is PQ cause (now SB old man is omc) in PQ2 ending shows the old man mirroring what UCN's version says "Come and rest your soul, leave the demon to his demons" - "Congratulation! Your quest is done. Time for sleep" and like in UCN, the Princess ignores the old man's words and goes forward to follow Afton. PQ2 also has the connection that plays on it with the red lamps puzzles where both there's a purple princess version as well the Golden and Purple lamps to line up, symbolizing the two in a never ending cycle (Reuse of the song Caught in a loop). What I do find interesting is if PQ2 is Cassidy's story after death, does that mean OMC gave Cassidy the power to do things such (As shown old man giving the Princess the sword to fight) like teleporting around in Golden Freddy? Cause out of all the dead kids, only Charlie and Cassidy seem to have the power to do things that others can't.

[@killerman3715]

You ignore fact vengeful spirit is Andrew Fazbear frights himself confirmed canon by scott Cassidy can everything except vengeful spirit and the one keep afton alive

[@Xainos28]

@@killerman3715 Andrew is only canon to the book story since Stitchwraith nor Andrew or Jake make no mentions in the games. No amount of text will convince me otherwise.

[@killerman3715]

@Xainos28 Andrew canon only ucn Cassidy herself never mentioned games like Andrew Fazbear fright take place after fnaf 6 if you don't read all stories about stitchwraith

[@Xainos28]

@@killerman3715 his name isn't mentioned in UCN, also the child in ucn is blonde straight hair, not black and curly like Andrew has. And again nothing in the books link to be confirmed in fnaf 6, especially when F. Freddy still exist in Milly's Grandpa's garage.

[@killerman3715]

@Xainos28 vengeful spirit face has same eye fetch and blonde hair means nothing scott himself confirmed Andrew canon and kid face just scott son Freddy files himself confirmed police find puppet mask in fnaf 6 place and don't forget funtime freddy story is not same funtime freddy fnaf 5 He like foxy and spring bonnie from the into the pit who has connected stitchwraith

[@worldtrademark_]

new siresquawks video!!!!!

[@anamethename3327]

"r cara" is a new one.

[@Herbert-west-re-animator]

The interpretatoin of the UCN scene relies on the assumption that the freddy there wants to STOP ucn. If that freddy is cassidy, the entire scene would be flipped on its head because cassidy wants UCN to keep going forever, and the old man is telling her to just let go.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah but then the “demon to his demons” thing becomes an assumption itself that it’s referring to Hell. And also Afton is actively screaming during the minigame implying he is being currently tormented, which relies on the assumption that Cassidy can torment William while in magic red world.

[@Herbert-west-re-animator]

@@siresquawksfrom a narrative perspective it doesn't make a lot of sense where in a game exclusively about Cassidy as golden Freddy torturing William for all eternity, the unnamed bear animatronic would be an entirely different and unrelated character and that this fact is never stated anywhere Occam's razor and all that, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one

[@siresquawks]

I mean by that same token BV’s storyline (especially if my other theories are right) is directly tied to Cassidy’s. Him moving on while Cassidy as the demons does fit if that’s the case.

[@Kammy_dafox]

I feel like he's FNAFs version of Satan

[@amphibiland7315]

Everything he does seems very kind and calm, though, not evil

[@Kammy_dafox]

I was referring to Lucifer(not satan) who isn't evil. I am agnostic he isn't evil he's just misunderstood and just punishes the bad, Like William Afton, Satan is the evil influence on earth

[@amphibiland7315]

@@Kammy_dafox Oh, okay, sorry!

[@Reindeer-Pig]

... I thought the character in the thumbnail was theft king for a sec

[@Taro_Yanada]

FNAF World is a dream. It is like Scott's version of Dream Theory. In the FNAF universe, dreams are a way of entering the spiritual world and connecting with paranormal entities, that is outright told to us. I believed that Mike was the player of FNAF World, and the movie just further pushed the idea. Mike sleeps and connects with the MCI kids in the movie, specially with Golden Freddy, who is also in control of Mike's dreams in the movie. The difference is that, in the games, Mike is tasked to put BV back together, and he gets to do so. Even the "Happiest Day" ending (?) in OMC's lake makes sense, the bigger figure is Mike, and the smaller two are Elizabeth and BV. This made sense even in 2015, when we didn't know all about the Aftons, but we knew about the older brother, BV and the sister.

[@vanyadolly]

Yeah, the scene in the lake makes the most sense as being Mike's happiest day. BV obviously wasn't the "player" in fnafWorld, because he was broken and someone else needed to leave the breadcrumbs for him.

[@vincentmorris8431]

Reminded of DeeDee "reeling animatronics out of the depths of the red lake and dropping them directly into your lap." Bonus if you know whose channel said that.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

The closest to Gaster story wise, is Yenndo. Most don’t think Yenndo is that, because he isn’t very popular. But yeah, Gaster is a tumbler sexy man. Yenndo and Omc aren’t tumber sexy men. Funtime foxy might be the closest. But Ft Foxy was never that lore relevant. Gaster is vague, barely in the story, and a sexy man. Omc, is like the boat dude from Undertale.

[@edenengland1883]

honestly, this video just makes me wonder more about HW2's endings the main ending is presumably the canon one, but based on timeline hints Vanny isn't helping Burntrap and isn't guiding the STAFFbots around, so why do they ambush us and why does Burntrap jump out of his pod? if the secret ending is canon then 1) what is the significance of the normal ending? and 2) what even *happens* in the secret ending? is the secret ending just supposed to be the princess helping destroy Glitchtrap? but if that's the case what's up with the mask during that line of events? who is the princess supposed to represent? (I know you posited the idea that maybe she's just a video game character but that seems weird considering the fact we... see Vanny in it and she can interact with the Princess in a seemingly physical pseudo-space when we hand Glitchtrap over to her) interestingly, if the two-soul-fredbear theory ends up being correct than that actually completely solves the issue of VS being golden freddy and resting during UCN, because whichever spirit rests, the other spirit could still try to follow Afton after he gets digi-cloned, although if it's just one spirit it could just be as simple as golden freddy detecting that a second Afton has just been brought into existence and wanting to stop that before something bad happens, despite their prior attempt at rest