Scuf Reflex PS5 Unboxing - I REGRET Not Buying This Sooner

[@ThomasMuehler]

What are your thoughts? Do back paddles on controllers matter? What's your jam 2 or 4 paddles? Would you go with Scuf or another brand?

[@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese]

Overclock it with DS4 Windows to 1000hz.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese What is this black magic you speak of? Seriously asking? Sounds like a software that overclocks the scuf PS5 controller to 1,000 Hz for improved reaction time. But what is the stock and does it work on PS5 controllers without any side effects?

[@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese]

@@ThomasMuehler 10.4 you pretty much summed it up with that statement. DS4 windows is a software based application (free I believe) that is commonly used to remap buttons, map keyboard binds to controller, overclock your devices etc. All of the professional FPS players that use controllers overclock them to the highest available hertz which in this case is 1000hz & makes a difference. If you use a wireless controller even more improvements can be found because of the latency vs wired. Also of note the PlayStation controllers seem to respond best to the overclock (not sure why). You can find simple straightforward guides on KZbin on how to overclock controller. Gamer Heaven channel did a pretty extensive breakdown of overclocked controllers on his channel testing them. Improved response time and device latency. No negative effects from overclock. PS5 controllers (stock version w/ overclock tend to perform the best over everything else in market. The modules PlayStation uses for analog sticks are superior to Microsoft hands down as far as accuracy & durability imo.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese Fascinating. I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the heads up. Very much appreciated. Have you done this yourself? Did you notice a huge improvement?

[@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese]

@@ThomasMuehler Yes sir I have. I’ve owned Scuf Xbox , Battle Beaver Xbox X, PlayStation DualShock (ps4), Microsoft Series 2 Elites, Razer Ultimate Edition and stock PS5 (with Kontrol Freek CQC Rush attached to sticks)controllers. After overclocking them the PS5 controllers felt the most responsive hands down. I used DS4 Windows to overclock. I’d recommend the Kontrol Freek CQC Rush for your controller as well. Helps with accuracy and feels superior to any stock analog stick I’ve used.

[@Macktube]

Bro I'm a controller Enthusiast too and I have several different brands if you like Scuff I highly recommend you try Hex Gaming controllers. They allow you to customize the design a lot more and the back paddles are really comfortable. The Dual Sense Edge looks really cool too though

[@ThomasMuehler]

With you being an enthusiast I'd love to hear which one is your favorite and why? Also, I've heard of Hex a few times now. I'll have to check them out. Also, was just looking at the Dual Sense Edge earlier today. I'm very excited for that. But bummed it only comes with two paddles. As for me four is a minimum. But LOVE that you can swap out the thumbsticks. Excited to see the price. As I'm just blown away at the costs of controllers these days.

[@Macktube]

@@ThomasMuehler I have Battle Beaver, Hex, Lazamods, & Colorware. My favorite controller to use is Battle Beaver cuz it's lightweight and has a great grip in the back with good design choices . My favorite controller design-wise is def Lazamods, they make the best looking controllers ever in my opinion.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@Macktube Thanks for giving a good rundown! Battle Beaver seems like the best bang for your buck with the most customizability. Hex seems super expensive and I think I like Scuf better. Of course since I haven't tried that I'm going based off their website. Lazamods controllers have SICK colors. But again, seem really expensive for what you get. As it doesn't appear to come with paddles or anything. Just custom colorways (which are super sick).

[@Macktube]

@@ThomasMuehler yeah but I like nice looking controllers that's why I ordered so many. I admit I'm addicted 😅

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@Macktube Hey absolutely no judgement from me. I totally get it. You should see my mouse collection. It's out of control. If I still only played controller then I'd probably be in the same boat. But seeing as I only use a controller when I game on my PS5 (and with a very select few titles on PC such as racing games on PC). Owning multiple controllers isn't worth it. But picking one (hopefully stellar one) totally is.

[@stylishsteamy8197]

You look like Jack Black. Also question, how do you change the buttons onto the back paddle is it in game that does it?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I do get that a lot. On the back where the paddles are connected you have a chip there that you can do a button combo that will allow you to change them. You can also have three different profiles. I do go over that briefly somewhere in this video.

[@yochillz69]

This vid was al over my recommendation no matter how many times I refreshed so I'm here🤣

[@ThomasMuehler]

Hahaha well I’m glad that the algorithm is doing work for me. Lol. Also thanks for letting me know. Means a lot. Even if I’m slowly breaking down your will power. You’d be doing me a massive favor if you watched it all the way through (even if it is on in the background and you aren’t actively watching it). And if you happened to watch it and liked it I’d love a like OR dislike depending.

[@yochillz69]

@@ThomasMuehler you got a like bro don't worry. Am definitely watching entirely bc I've thinking of buying me one

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@yochillz69 I deeply appreciate it! If you like selling your first and second child (or if money isn't an issue) I totally recommend it. As I absolutely love it and think they nailed it. Granted I'm still in the honeymoon phase which is why the review hasn't come out yet. Need to put some more hours on it before I give my full recommendation. If you end up picking it up I'd love to hear your thoughts. Especially, in comparison to the $27 gizmo that added paddles to your controller already.

[@yochillz69]

@@ThomasMuehler thx. You got a sub from me. I'll see if I can sell a few children and yup I'll let you know😂

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@yochillz69 Well welcome to the family. I'm very happy you are here and hope you enjoy the content. And I'm very much looking forward to it.

[@buffimpreza07]

Would you recommend the Scuf Reflex or Scuf Reclex Pro? From your experience is one more durable than the other🤔

[@ThomasMuehler]

From my knowledge the only difference between the two is that the Scuf Reflex Pro has a rubberized-type grip on the back of the controller compared to it being the normal plastic on the Reflex. Otherwise, features are the same. Personally, I went with it because a ton of other reviewers were saying it was the bee's knees (super awesome). However, I'm not convinced that it is worth the $20 upcharge. As it doesn't come across as life changing to me. Not that it is cheap by any means. It feels good, is soft, grippy, and I have no complaints about it. Like compared to other grips I've tried it feels upper end. But at the same time don't think it adds anything extra to the controller where I'd be like dang, I missed out if it didn't have it. But I"m also one of those people who don't mind the feel of plastic, have issues with grip, or get sweaty hands. So, may not be the main target demographic for it. But I found that $20 to get the best was worth it after spending $200. But I think that is a trap they kind of lay and hope you fall for. So definitely comes down to personal preference.

[@buffimpreza07]

@@ThomasMuehler Nice! Thanks so much for the in-depth reply🙏 definitely helped me out for sure

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@buffimpreza07 If you end up picking one up I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@HaccheTH]

Can the middle paddles be left in without the 2 bigger side paddles being in or do they have to be in at the same time if that makes sense, thanks!

[@ThomasMuehler]

Checked last night. Yes. In the instructions they report to remove the middle paddles, then the outer ones, but then you can put back in the middle paddles without the outer paddles and they will work.

[@tdawg9225]

paid $330 for mine, its currently back at scuf getting the brutal stick drift fixed after 7 months, also had a paddle break in the 1st month.......great controller when its working, would never recommend to anyone because of the ridiculous price

[@ThomasMuehler]

I completely agree with what you're saying. The pricing for these "premium controllers" is unreal. The worst part is that the price across the board is pretty much the same no matter which company you go with. With some being even more expensive and you get less. It kind of blows my mind that a controller costs almost as much as the console you use it on. That said, I still love my Scuf and am happy I purchased it. Has made my enjoyment of console gaming (and also use it on PC) so much better than a stock controller. Which I think is the crux of the problem. Is people are willing to pay the outrageous prices and so they continue to get away with it. I also hear the complaint of stick drift a lot. I understand the frustration. But I don't see a way of effectively resolving that issue. Seeing as anything with that type of design will eventually break down from entropy. Also, found the rougher I am with my aim the faster that issues start to occur. I've started to use long sticks which help me not be as aggressive and more accurate. I think the only way to fix this would be what the new PlayStation DualSense Edge where the stick itself is hot swappable. But still depends on A. How easy those replacements are to get (as stock issues have been terrible across the board) and B. How much those cost each time. Looks like it is $19.99 right now for that particular controller. Which is why I prefer PC gaming. Lol. Peripherals are cheaper and last a lot longer.

[@tdawg9225]

@@ThomasMuehler hall sensors would be the answer to stick drift, I bought an Xbox elite series ll and am very happy with it so far, at least I know the paddles won't break

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@tdawg9225 What?! I didn't know that the Xbox Elite controllers used Hall Sensors. But I imagine they patiented it so you will only see it on their controllers. Which is a shame for us consumers.

[@tdawg9225]

@@ThomasMuehler you jumped the gun there. Didn't say elite uses hall sensors....just stating that it is the answer to stick drift...elite does not have hall sensors

[@ThomasMuehler]

​@@tdawg9225 That's my bad. That's what you get when you read something while doing something else and also skim some google search results lol. Appreciate the clarification.

[@VoidCosmonaut]

Scuf is great but it lacks one great feature. Analog stick increased tension Battle Beaver gamepads have.

[@ThomasMuehler]

I haven't tried them but they sound sweet.

[@SM4YL-LA]

should i buy the ps5 reflex fps scuf controller or wait for the ps5 Dualsense Edge controller?

[@ThomasMuehler]

Totally comes down to you. I personally would go with the Scuf. As I like to have four paddles and think this controller is excellent. Expensive AF. But excellent and I’m very happy I bought it. The PS5 Dualsense Edge looks cool. But only has two paddles which to me is a deal breaker. But some other features (such as swapping out the thumbsticks I believe but may be wrong because haven’t looked recently) that could make it better. So, if you only want or will use two paddles then it may be worth waiting for. If you want four paddles and/or don’t want to wait I don’t think this is a bad choice. I also forgot if they mentioned how much the Dualsense Edge is. If it isn’t a lot of money then that may change my mind.

[@SM4YL-LA]

@@ThomasMuehler thanks, man, I agree with you, just made my order for the reflex fps

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@SM4YL-LA I’m excited for you man! I’d love to hear your thoughts on it when it comes in if you remember or care to get back to me.

[@SM4YL-LA]

@@ThomasMuehler sure man I’ll

[@SM4YL-LA]

@@ThomasMuehler how long does the shipping process take? I ordered the prebuilt one

[@ywbloo3093]

How long did it take to arrive?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I ordered it on 07/27. They shipped it on 08/03 and it arrived 08/08. So, personally I don't think that's bad at all.

[@Chris.tian_]

I ordered on 8/19 and they shipped my today 8/24 now I have to wait until its there, bad thing, yesterday sony presented their own pro controller 🤣 but I think there will be a few more month until we can buy it.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@Chris.tian_ WHAT?! This is news to me. I'll have to check it out. I don't think I'm all that upset seeing as I really do like this controller. But depending on the price point this could be a very good thing indeed (the Dualsense Edge Controller). Looking a bit closer it also doesn't seem to come with four paddles. Which to me is a deal breaker. I want all four for my needs. Making the scuf the better option to me. But the removable thumbstick deal looks good.

[@Chris.tian_]

@@ThomasMuehler I need only two but I think dont give the option of 4 will be a deal breaker for a lot more gamer. But the removable sticks are awesome, stickdrift? No prob buy a new one. Also the feature for normal triggers or instant.

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@Chris.tian_ Agreed, the replaceable sticks to resolve stick drift is huge. The ability to switch between instant or normal is always appreciated. But with the PS5 I think the triggers not being immediate is one of the main selling points. But I also fully understand sacrificing stuff for maximum performance. I would love to get your thoughts on both the Scuf Reflex Pro and Dual Sense Edge when it comes out (if you end up picking it up).

[@davidb91091]

Battery life?

[@ThomasMuehler]

I find it to be better than the original PS5 controller. On the PS5 stock controller I think the battery life is poor. As I felt like I was always recharging it. Where this one I'd say is like medium. Where I don't have to charge it all the time but definitely still need to charge it frequently. I don't play console all that often. But when I do it is usually for an extended period (maybe 4 - 8 hours). So, with the stock PS5 I swear I had to charge that almost every time I gamed. With the Scuf I can have a whole play period and then some of the next. Maybe two periods before needing to charge. But I still feel like I'm charging controllers all the dang time compared to my gaming mice. Which is why I hate internal batteries for controllers and much prefer Double AA's (rechargeable of course). That way I can just swap it out and keep going. But what I've done is just remember to plug it in at night (if in rest mode or put it in a wall outlet that will actually charge the controller safely) that way it is always charged when I go to play. But yeah, I'm disappointed in general with battery life on controllers.

[@Khan_-hd4rf]

259 bucks for a freaking Controller. Half price from the console. Tf? Are they kidding? Never worth it for that price. Nothing special.

[@ThomasMuehler]

Yeah, it's excessive. Unfortunately, other brands are pretty much at the same price tier while not providing as solid of a controller. So to me Scuf continues to be the "apple" of controllers. Where they are a smidge more expensive than some of the competition. But you get a great product. While still being excessively overprice. So far with a lot more testing I love it. Performs and feels fantastic in the hand. But that price tag is unbelievable. I also just love having "paddles" or similar on the back as it makes the movement and control I have in games dramatically better that its worth it to ME. But to say I didn't feel the price tag would be an understatement as I had to sell quite a few things to be able to afford it.

[@jrhm6755]

Paid 340 for mine the reflex fps ps5 ;) love the controller

[@ThomasMuehler]

@@jrhm6755 I am regretful of the colors I chose. As my controller is ugly AF. But the performance I have thoroughly enjoyed. I've been playing through Horizon Forbidden West and absolute LOVE both it and the controller. Definitely don't regret my purchase and honestly if I had to would buy it again.

[@jrhm6755]

@@ThomasMuehler I got the gold and black design for extra 30$ :) looks so sexy tbh