Siskel & Ebert Classics - 1/19/90 - Tremors, Internal Affairs

[@citygirl5705]

"Tremors" is a movie that gets better on every viewing. Even Siskel admitted he liked it more when he saw it again on TV.

[@TobeyStarburst]

Where he say that??

[@citygirl5705]

@@TobeyStarburst One of their guilty pleasure shows. "Tremors" was Ebert's guilty pleasure.

[@natejordan9723]

Well of course Tremors is better on tv. The jokes are dubbed, but with better delivering punch lines

[@FloraWest]

I got to see it with two pals in an empty theater when I was in college. So much fun to enjoy it and enjoy it loudly. : )

[@Dahdoi]

He says it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIDch4l3ob-dqac

[@DS8379]

Love when the boys explain widescreen! This is where I learned about it

[@pam0626]

Loved Internal Affairs. Andy Garcia & Laurie Metcalf were a great duo.

[@dzanier]

That is a solid film. Enjoyed it immensely. One of Gere’s better roles.

[@pam0626]

@@dzanier For sure. And I love films that show the gritty underside of LA like Breathless and The Driver.

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

andy garcia is a great actor ! when a man loves a women, the man from elysium fields, jennifer 8, godfather 3, things to do in denver while your dead

[@bighuge1060]

Tremors: a classic.

[@cblack4413]

"Internal Affairs" gets better with each view.

[@sahej6939]

Tremors is a modern fun classic 🎉lots more tremors coming

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

Ebert has his "first day of school" haircut here

[@pi6835]

“Internal Affairs” is one of the best films of the 90’s, a great decade for films.

[@mooseyman74]

I always go back to it, although I find Gere creepy in all his films

[@sahej6939]

It’s terrible

[@stoogefest16]

No, it’s a a clumsy and laughable film. Gere isn’t particularly convincing, and Garcia does little more than play up the whole ‘hot under the collar’ Latino angle. There’s some vivid cinematography of early ‘90s LA, but that’s about all there is that’s of any interest. You’re better off watching a few seasons of The Shield if corrupt policing interests you.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@stoogefest16 I vehemently disagree. Gere was quite nasty at Peck, he was sort of a sick "alpha male" bent on protecting his family yet enjoying how he was antagonizing Garcia. As for Andy, what made his characterization so disturbing is that he had much in common with the villain. The connection between both parties gave the film an uncomfortable atmosphere of ugly feelings for all the right reasons. Of course it's not a perfect film. The biggest problem was that the corruption among Peck and the other officers seemed almost like an afterthought. I really wanted to know more about that criminal Peck worked with and his operation. Had Sidney Lumet direct the film, we would have got more of the crucial details. Anyway, I think Internal Affairs is a good film and it is carried by great performances. As for the cinematography, I do love it as well and it was from the same guy who shot Chinatown.

[@kd17Burger]

That scene in the car , Tremors, with Bibi Besch, listening to a Reba song, was the Best scene in the movie The headlights going off

[@kemp10]

Tremors would go on to become the very first Re:View and that's enough for me

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

That’s right Jay

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

aww yes the days when it was rare to find a VHS movie in widescreen letter box.. now with dvds and blu ray, every movie is widescreen ! thank god

[@kkampy4052]

Little did these guys know that TVs would reshape to fit wide screen images. No more pan and scan.

[@dubliners0999]

Great explanation of pan and scan vs letterbox. never go pan-and-scan!

[@davejohn3600]

It's funny, whenever it comes to movies like Tremors one of them always seems to look at it too seriously while the other just sees it as a fun movie. It's never the same one either.

[@thegline]

And The Plot Against Harry has just been reissued on Blu-ray in a new 4K remaster!

[@maxxt3916]

I actually saw Ski Patrol in the theater. My excuse for this is, I was in junior high. I’ll stick with that.

[@kd17Burger]

I did too, ..............I have no response lol

[@bryana.williams4310]

LOL at Gene thinking it was only enough material for a short; he's rolling in his grave now that they've made seven full features, plus a tv series!

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

siskel just gave away the ending lol

[@kd17Burger]

​@@jameswilliams-zr8coit's not like it mattered

[@kd17Burger]

Umm, every sequel was terrible, I'm sure he's laying in his original position 😂

[@ricardocantoral7672]

Internal Affairs is a pissing contest between two reprehensible men. What a fantastic film.

[@934ist]

Are you talking about Garcia's character? How is Garcia's character reprehensible?

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@934ist Um, the volatile temper and slapping around his wife. Last and not least, the death of Dennis Peck.

[@jananilcolonoscopu4034]

@@ricardocantoral7672 having a volatile temper alone doesn't render one "reprehensible", and of course Garcia's character doesn't become violent until he has been psychologically tortured and physically beaten by Gere's character... Gere's character Peck had of course just held Garcia's wife hostage and lunged at Garcia with a knife before being killed... The film is hardly placing these characters on the same moral level. A most odd reading of the piece, to be sure.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

@@jananilcolonoscopu4034 I suggest you go back and watch the film because it's made obvious in the film that Raymond had issues. When Ray thought his wife was cheating, he didn't just get upset, he smacked her in the face so hard, she fell down. He also didn't even apologize or even remotely regret hitting her. At the end of the film, he just kills Dennis because he hated him. Did Peck do worse overall in this film? Yeah but there were no heroes in this movie and I basically put these characters on the same level.

[@jananilcolonoscopu4034]

​@@ricardocantoral7672 Friend, there's no debate over the order of events in the film that I listed for you, and you can re-watch the film to confirm that I'm correct if you wish. Once again, Gere's character elaborately engineers situations that make it seem as if he's sleeping with Garcia's character's wife, and then brutally beats Garcia in a surprise attack in an elevator. Only immediately after this beating does Garcia confront his wife in a restaurant about whether she is having this affair, their mutual misunderstanding (also engineered by Peck) leading to the argument which culminates in Garcia striking his wife. What the film is telling you here is that Gere's character is successfully pushing Garcia's honest and upright cop character over the edge through his Hannibal Lecter-esque manipulation. The scene has weight because of the dramatic effect Gere's plans are having on Garcia's character. As for the ending, once again, Gere's character has JUST NOW mortally wounded Garcia's partner during an escape; he's broken into Garcia's character's house and is about to sexually assault his wife, when Garcia arrives and shoots Gere in the leg. Gere continues to lunge at Garcia with a knife, upon which point Garcia shoots him. Gere's character has committed suicide by cop here, but not for a minute does the film imply that these two characters are comparably reprehensible individuals. The fact that you seem emotionally wedded to this rather bizarre interpretation is very odd to me.

[@reneedennis2011]

Internal Affairs is a good. When he was on Oprah years ago, he said that he made this movies because he had house payments to make.

[@jedijones]

Wait, you mean internal affairs was setting him up? There's nothing like that in the movie. When I get bored, I make up my own movie.

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

Hey @Renee Dennis - re: "he"(x3) = "Who" are you referring to ?!? No one can read your mind, nor read in-between the lines.

[@lizzyphinsfan9927]

Van Stretch.. Great name

[@killbot_factory]

I always hated Richard Gere but Internal Affairs blew me away, tough to not appreciate an actor playing against type. a really good movie!

[@highwaystar3780]

He's good at playing scumbags....and thats it.

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

gere is awesome, pretty woman, no mercy.. and his best role was Primal fear, also norton's first movie

[@PowerGlove79]

@@jameswilliams-zr8co Primal Fear is my favorite Gere and Norton performances

[@terrygyimah1956]

My objective reviews of this particular week's films Tremors 👍 Ski Patrol 👎 Internal Affairs👍 The Plot Against Harry👍

[@mykal.7424]

Tremors is great and entertaining. Internal Affairs is also very good, Richard Gere's best performance ever and a great performance by Andy Garcia .

[@kd17Burger]

Best Performance EVER ...Dude you haven't watched a lot of his films, evidently

[@sleuthentertainment5872]

Tremors is a great tribute to Roger Corman kind of horror movies

[@bobspence5322]

lol yes reba macentires scene with the elephant gun alone is enough to recommend tremors. i never saw ski patrol or internal affairs.

[@nivbri]

Great year for Garcia! January internal affairs December godfather 3 with Oscar nom

[@wickedcoolname399]

Cropped movies are an abomination. Always buy the director's cut if available.

[@canuck_gamer3359]

It's really a testimony to human stupidity that cutting movies was ever even invented, let alone how it became dominant. I'm afraid for the future because there are fewer and fewer genuinely intelligent people all the time. And sooner or later the few smart people wont' be able to keep the stupid people at bay and then the whole world will just go haywire.

[@jedijones]

@@canuck_gamer3359 The stupid people are still stretching their TV picture so any old show is distorted into widescreen to get rid of those "black bars."

[@linkbiff1054]

Unless it is Gladiator or Apocalypse Now.

[@sirequinox4874]

I can't believe this was their reaction to "Tremors." It's a classic, a reverent parody of horror movies. Maybe you have to be a true horror fan to fully appreciate it and I don't think either of them were. And showing the graboids moving underground does not mean it's from the creature's point of view. Ebert blundered there.

[@RemoGutierrez1]

Ebert likes more movies than Siskel, i think. He liked Tremors here

[@kd17Burger]

That's a very odd remark

[@SaintMartins]

I thought Tremors was a good "popcorn eating" fun thriller. A DVD copy sits deservingly on a shelf along with other great thrillers in my collection. Great cast & original. Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade was a must see for me back then b/c i was a big fan of River Phoenix. I was disappointed to see his part was just a cameo (first 10 minutes) but still a great film.

[@Jealod24]

They explained the worms are alien… that’s why there are only so many

[@gabagool2064]

They didn’t explain that in the first movie.

[@jameswilliams-zr8co]

siskel just gives away the ending lol

[@nicklengyel356]

Wide screen is way better

[@123rockfan]

I don’t think I laughed once during Tremors. Would’ve been incredible if this starred Tommy Lee Jones and John Goodman. And Reba as the love interest

[@jananilcolonoscopu4034]

In terms of Tremors, Siskel proved once again that he had no taste...

[@ericburns9132]

Siskel actually changed his mind about Tremors, two years later when they did a special on guilty pleasures and Ebert picked Tremors as his, and Siskel actually changed his opinion on Tremors and gave it a positive review

[@kenernestnation]

It one thing to critique a movie, another telling people not to see it. These two disliked most contemporary classics.

[@HkFinn83]

What do you the point of a film review is?

[@kenernestnation]

@@HkFinn83 to give your opinion, not discourage people from seeing and forming their own.

[@HkFinn83]

@@kenernestnation I think you’re misunderstanding what criticism is. It has one purpose. To lead you to see the film, or not. It’s not a form of entertainment in itself. It’s not an academic debate about the relative merits or demerits of a film. It’s a filter of quality, nothing more. If you find a particular critic so opposed to your tastes that their reviews are not valuable, don’t read/listen to them.

[@steveb7932]

lol qq baby

[@sblagg527]

Name a contemporary classic that they both disliked. And before you say something clueless like "Independence Day" be sure that it's widely revered as a true CLASSIC.

[@bighuge1060]

It's so much better today to watch clips and trailers for movies on youtube to see whether or not you want to watch the movie rather than waiting for Siskel & Ebert at The movies and having to listen to the opinions of two pretentious movie critics crapping on movies someone might well love.

[@ricardocantoral7672]

S&E did a lot more than criticize, they often brought little-known filmmakers national attention.

[@sblagg527]

This may be the most mindless short-sighted opinion of movie critics I've ever heard, and the fact that you think youtube trailers are a substitute for critical analysis (whether or not you agree with that analysis) is yet another example of millennial short-attention-span stupidity.

[@mooseyman74]

Spielberg isn't such a perfectionist, there are lots of cheap backgrounds, poor effects and situations where the escape isn't even shown in Last Crusade

[@mercuriocavaldi2208]

That is why you never trust movie critics. Tremors is one of my favorite movies and these two clowns criticized it like it was some kind of trash.

[@knownpleasures]

It was trash and goofy fun stupid. They were actually kind to it to be honest

[@mercuriocavaldi2208]

@@knownpleasures nope, they were fools who could not appreciate a good movie.

[@123rockfan]

@@mercuriocavaldi2208 just finished watching Tremors for the first time. The movie wasn’t exciting at all and I didn’t laugh once.

[@warriormanmaxx8991]

@@knownpleasures - re: "to be honest" Are you not "honest" all the time? Or only when using those meaningless words.

[@nin6246]

Tremors is fun. Sure it's dumb. That's a good thing.

[@sblagg527]

Tremors isn't dumb at all. It's actually very smartly written.