Sister Wives #32 - (Kisses have a price) - Therapist Reacts

[@confusedpuppy1]

The drama from the later seasons is worth it, hang in there Dr Honda! We appreciate you 😂

[@WitchOracle]

(spoilers) . . . . . . . I know there's been more drama later on, but I really can't wait to get to the catfishing. It trickles out so slowly the way it's edited, it's so painful to watch, but I think is one of the first big earth shattering things for the family (especially with how the timeline works out with the divorce)

[@jennm725]

I’ve been a viewer of this show since the very first episode aired, and it just cracks me up how you pick up on things IMMEDIATELY- that took me years and years to realize 😂 You are great at what you do Dr. Honda!

[@laneneal3510]

I’ve watched since beginning and predicted all of this. Their religion teaches lying from the get go. They hide everything. I said right away Kody collected mommies. Knew he had a PD. I watched just to see it run its course. So sad. Kids got the brunt of it.

[@NeensG]

"I'm gonna speed this fker up" 😂😂😂

[@Mel-oe3dw]

😂

[@cedehernandez4877]

I replayed that part to see if I heard it correctly 😂

[@charitydixon7828]

When my dad and uncle (his brother) were young, they would often ride their bikes around town. One day, my dad got the funny idea to tell his brother to hang back for a while so they could prank their mom. My dad raced home and frantically told his mom that his brother had been hit by a car. After she started panicking, the brother walked into the door, and they were like, "Just kidding!" My grandma is now in her 80's, and if you ask her about it today, she just quietly shakes her head and says, "I will not relive that day". Not such a funny prank, lol

[@VeroRochaEscorcio]

They're lucky she didn't have a heart attack. I did stupid stuff like this as a kid too and regret it

[@ljuly]

When I was very young in early elementary school my mom played an April Fool's Day "prank" on my and convinced me my younger brother had fallen off our second-story deck onto gravel. I'll never forgive her for that. I still have no idea why she thought that was a reasonable "joke" to play on a little kid.

[@KimberlyStrode]

Janelle’s face during the couch interviews in this point of the show’s run was soooo telling.

[@ShipFantastic]

Dr Honda's insights are spot on!

[@barbmoore6587]

Mariah's response teaches me how mom and dad handled, hard situation or she had to be the adult obedient

[@roriemcfadden6097]

She acts very masculine here. It's not how she portrayed herself later, but angry like kody & aggressive.

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@roriemcfadden6097 Meri's child always favored Kody in their teen years. I wish I knew more about their current relationship with Meri. I know Meri loves them and is very protective and proud of them.

[@WitchOracle]

​@@roriemcfadden6097 in my cultural pocket her reaction does not read as masculine, a lot of moms and sisters react that way

[@soclose2her]

@@WitchOracleI agree, I didn’t read this as masculine at all. Angry and maybe a bit of frustration, yes. It looked a lot like my mom/grandma/aunt/just-about-any-female-relative’s reaction when the kids get in trouble for doing something they know they shouldn’t have been doing. But like you said, this might be a cultural thing

[@shegoesla_lala]

I think the response from Mariah (the girl who was pranked on) shows she's parentified. I behaved in a similar manner when my siblings would cause trouble for my mom. I remember feeling angry, like "great now I have to deal with a stressed mom because these kids won't act right."

[@galebergeman5315]

Good point I also I think she’s brainwashed by the religion. I’m genuinely fears for her brother becoming a sinner or his behavior.

[@WitchOracle]

Yes, I agree with you, Mariah's reaction feels very familiar to me from a parentification angle

[@videosofmine100]

Oh doc. This is going to be a long ride for you. I didn’t watch the show for years because I was in college and didn’t have the time for it. When I came back I felt like I missed nothing.

[@NM-ub6ml]

Thing is it is kind of a slow motion very realistic falling apart. What is good about so little happening is when you think back all the signs were there and building up... it makes it deeper and richer than something dramatic and "snappy". Sadder as well as they age and try and fail. The children growing the wives looking older...

[@Indoforscots-s2l]

It’s so interesting watching this second time around. So many things that were actually red flags but which completely passed me by.

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@Indoforscots-s2l mine was Christine. In later seasons, I was happy she found her voice. Now I see she always had it. I think the difference is that the editing in earlier seasons made it look like she was just whining.

[@g.flesch9731]

@@selfcarewithstephanie3519 actually Christine was whining & complaining from the beginning. She was raised as an Allred. She came from polygamy royalty. Why didn't Christine get a 1st wife position in with another man. Christine spotted Kody at 14. I guess be careful fir what you want Christine. I mean her wedding dress? Why didn't she have the most beautiful dress her family could afford? I think we have been told so many lies & deceived. Figuring out what this Brown plural marriages was going on fir real was kept hidden & Kody was falsely promoted as this great poly husband & father by his wives & it was a lie by TLC.

[@soclose2her]

@@selfcarewithstephanie3519 agreed! They really just tried to make her look difficult

[@Beach_flower]

Right!! I feel the same

[@AnnK.-vu2yp]

Warmer, warmer….. lol

[@smw11581]

😂

[@deanna4851]

I’m glad Dr Honda says he’s going to speed it up. It’s easy to get lost in the weeds with this series.

[@Katie-Dee]

28:55 😂😂😂 thanks for reviewing this beast of a series

[@testing1-2three]

Robyn - passive aggressive

[@madelinesmith1363]

Yup, Robyn came into this family thinking she was an expert on plural marriage. Meanwhile, her three sister wives had been married to this guy for nearly 20 years at this point! Also, no spoilers, but Meri's child was the one who said they wanted sister wives and took the religion very seriously. So the other kids knew they'd react like that to the April Fool's prank. I agree, they let it sit toooo long before saying "April Fools!" 😅

[@kimm6589]

Not to mention Robyn already blew up her own prior marriage. Such an expert....

[@g.flesch9731]

The good old days where Kody wants harmony in his plural marriages. Also this question & answer is so relaxed with wives giving their views & laughter.

[@Matty-el3dz]

Dr. H, you are nailing these observations! Really enjoying your take on this!

[@CoffeeBuzzzz]

I will never forget the wet bar 😂

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@@CoffeeBuzzzz she was like a 2 year old having a tantrum over that wet bar 🤣

[@deanna4851]

Don’t mess with Meri’s wet bar!

[@g.flesch9731]

Wet bar. I watch a lot of HGTV & not once have I heard mention of desiring a wet bar. I have heard of coffee bar or specific area in the kitchen for your coffee maker & even that sounds dumb.

[@laurenditmar2776]

@@g.flesch9731you don’t drink coffee like my husband and I do, lol. We have an espresso bar - just a cabinet with mugs and hot beverages ingredients inside, and espresso machine and kettle plugged in on top

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@@g.flesch9731 our home has a wet bar. We use it as a coffee bar. That said it wasn't a make it or break it feature of the home lol 😆

[@homeschoolmom8804]

I think Robyn doesn’t like Christine because she gets a lot of attention. Idk, I get the sense Robyn feels uncomfortable when the attention isn’t on her.

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@homeschoolmom8804 I think she hates Christine because she speaks her mind. It's funny watching these old videos. In later seasons I was proud of Christine getting her voice. Watching these old videos I can see she always had it.

[@NM-ub6ml]

I think Robyn wanted to be the sunshine third wife as christine described third wives as traditionally being. It is a pity the spot was taken.. and she shoved and shoved christine aside in all ways but couldn't really replace because she doesn't actually like children an is a completely gloomy person! She definitely didn't want to be the basement wife though!

[@AliciaMcIntire]

If you like funny but harmless pranks, Paul and Matthew are the best! The one with the shower full of penguins is my favorite

[@RenayOpish]

Oooh! A Seattle collab! Paul’s laugh is the best-

[@Schu0086]

Dr Honda, you need to be less astute with your observations or you’re going to spoil yourself 😂

[@BekaB85]

16:48 Crazy how Robyn acts like the other wives bring up petty drama, while she completely avoids it. As if she is sickened by them, and is the better wife. In reality, it seems like she purposely causes drama with the other wives.

[@YorMamma]

According to Open Corporates, the LLC is active and lists Kody, and his then-four wives, Janelle, Robyn, Meri, and Christine Brown, as “members.” Through this LLC, the Brown family was getting paid by TLC for Sister Wives. It's estimated that the Browns are made anywhere from $25,000 to $40,000 per episode.Mar 10, 2023 -

[@soclose2her]

Thank you for researching this!

[@BeverlyRose330]

When I was around 7 years old I had this creepy doll that was 3 and 1/2 ft tall and I was actually thinking was alive. One night when I was asleep my mom put a Spider-Man mask on her and it scared the s*** out of me. When I asked my mom if she put the mask on my doll she said no. So I fully thought my doll was possessed. My mom let this joke go on for legit 3 months. I love my mom but that's actually pretty f***** up. My mom has some issues 😅 she still won't admit that was wrong of her

[@g.flesch9731]

Sorry that you were fooled with for 3 months. That is emotional abuse. Hope you are OK now.

[@BeverlyRose330]

@@g.flesch9731 thank you 💜🙏

[@faLLingFASterfeARing]

Ugh I had a creepy doll with legit nightmares way into my 20s (it’d been long gone). That is NOT cool!

[@mathhomeworkhelp6063]

I actually liked it slower, but I think I may be in the minority on this one. Although to be fair there were a few seasons where not a lot happened.

[@erinmartin431]

“Speed this fucker up”- hilarious from someone who is so intentional about his words 😂

[@sueg3129]

I really appreciate the insights on this one especially, bringing in the religious thread, Dr Kirk caught some things I missed the first time around, watching this review episode I had some light bulb moments. It was so helpful to have that x-cult member interview - I think it would be even better if Dr K read their book Becoming Sister Wives

[@madisonsscar]

Yes i definitely felt that the comment robin made was targeted towards the other wives. Another great video, thank you!

[@unplainjane123]

Dr. Honda, curious you say Robyn is an outsider. Do you think the other sister wives are making her an outsider or do you think she chooses to be an outsider? Like in this conversation to make herself seem like a bigger person and better wife?

[@mielimedina3146]

I’m wondering if part of that dynamic can’t be helped, given the other spouses have been together over 20 years, while Robyn is a lot newer. Maybe no matter how perfectly accepting the family would be, it’s unavoidable being a relative outsider as the newer spouse amongst such established dynamics. But it might be other factors entirely also!

[@TiredMage47]

Why is Dr. Honda not reviewing sister wives anymore?

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

There are so many families that make dating as an adolescent so unnecessarily pressure filled and awkward, and I think fixating on whether your children have kissed others is going too far

[@carolhern]

reading the book also helps.

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

15:31 😂 That reaction. I react like that when I give someone too much benefit of the doubt.

[@elzzz2000]

I've had three separate horrific April fools pranks to the point where now I just don't even see people or respond to messages, I take a day off work to avoid the day at all costs. One of them was while I was in school around the age of 6/7 and my cat had just gone missing and one of the girls at my school who bullied me, told me she'd found my cat in the bush with a knife in his chest. Another was our high school was on high alert and the police came to the school because it had been reported that a girl who hadn't come into school had been killed, and that the man who killed her was going to take another child, all completely made up by some sick fuck. And the worst one for me was that my brother was in hospital in critical condition and someone said they'd overheard people talking in the office that he'd died. The day genuinely terrifies me now even though all of these incidents were a decade or two ago

[@GrannyDi276]

Robyn was definitely lifting herself above the other sister wives & putting them down. They need help when Kody's there....they work hard to pay their mortgages (Janelle) or caring for the kids (Christine) while Robyn doesn't work & uses the teens to help with her kids....she can easily cater to Kody's every need...

[@wenzdayneher8842]

Soo him saying he didn’t care about her is a lie remember this !!

[@valeriegabrielleharris8501]

Dr. Honda, I don't know if the woman they refer to courting in this epidode is the same other "woman" Kody courted while underage, but they have said in their book that actually he started courting a 17 year old girl while he was in his mid to late twenties and she broke off the engagement, not Kody or one of the wives.

[@valeriegabrielleharris8501]

FYI...she was still attending high school (yuck!!)

[@michellestreeter0514]

I think the underaged girl is before Christine.

[@AnnK.-vu2yp]

Bless that wise young soul

[@cassandrashelton3690]

@@michellestreeter0514It was. But Christine was already around and has said that she said to herself she couldn't marry Kody if he married her bc she didn't like the girl.

[@michellestreeter0514]

@@cassandrashelton3690 that’s what I thought.

[@krystlejade9126]

I can't WAIT until you catch up to later season! I sooo want to see your reaction to everything.

[@oc2538]

6:45 🤫 we won't spill the beans

[@barbmoore6587]

15:54 💯, Robin was talking, passively...about the other sister wife's 😢😢...she carries a lot of assumptions,or, her and Kody's conversations, have predominantly been about his complaints regarding his other relationship's 🤔😢 It's starting to look like,Robbin and Kody are a tag team, analyzing the other wife's behaviors,secrets with Robyn, etc 😢😢seems somewhat pre meditated,(Robyn) from the very beginning... Anyways, I note a huge change in kody this season, avoident behaviors towards the other wives, kinetic chatter with out substance ???

[@lNoWayAroundItl]

And fake pregnancy for April fools is ridiculous.

[@nbf25]

im patiently waiting for the drama too! im like why did they make you watch this! never even seen one episode or heard anything about this show so im listening with fresh ears

[@WitchOracle]

I read some spoilers to get context and oh boy! It will be worth it in the end! If you can avoid the spoilers still the payoff will probably be more rewarding

[@soclose2her]

21:59 I feel like Cody is living for the drama. Anytime there’s something like a time crunch (which seems to happen a lot) he is just amped up about it. Also Dr. Honda immediately correcting his analogy is 🤌🏾

[@testing1-2three]

Mariah has emotional issues like her mother. I think eventually Mariah grows out of it or gets help but those are some deeply repressed feelings she has there.

[@AnnK.-vu2yp]

I think their emotional struggles both stem from a similar place but Moriah figured it out and Meri has not. Or at least isn’t ready to face it.

[@michellekennedy454]

They seem kinda codependent. Meri included her child in a lot of adult decisions that I wouldn’t recommend because it seems to cause a lot of internal struggle for them.

[@WitchOracle]

​@@michellekennedy454 (this is a spoiler if Dr. Kirk is reading this) . . . I think it's so interesting how Mariah's reaction to the catfishing situation really puts the strain in their relationship on display for the first time. I don't think that's where it started, but maybe because it was such a deep betrayal, and maybe because Mariah was living out of the house and had a chance to reexamine the relationship from a distance, it all becomes so visible at that point. I also wonder if her longing for a younger sibling for so long was a not-fully-realized need to not be the main support system for her mom (speaking as my own mom's oldest child and parentified/therapist-ized daughter)

[@kjgaia]

hey @psychologyinseattle this is the video I just texted u about - super early season speculation about Mariah being LGBTQIA! I never watched this show so I'm super behind the class. I'm watching SW at my pace and circling back to your older eps as I go. FYI the playlist u made is in reverse-chronological order, might wanna swap that. (plays newest to oldest)

[@MamieBelle775]

Robyn and Kody kissed before they were married. It’s a bit hypocritical to then hear them talking to the kids about kissing.

[@Treecibond]

laughed out loud at speed this fucker up

[@beah4915]

"I'm going to speed this fucker up." 😂😂😂

[@wstone4046]

Just wait until ya hear about.... Ugh, it's related but I don't want to spoil it even a little bit.

[@Spinsterwife]

Kody and Robyn don't like to expose truth.

[@oc2538]

I've had a missed miscarriage. It's devastating. It must have been very hard for Meri, trying to grieve but meanwhile the other wives are pregnant.

[@kimm6589]

Let's not forget that Robyn already has one failed marriage under her belt at this point. So her 'advice' isn't very reliable.

[@EatHere]

I’m shocked that before Robyn they were courting another woman. It seems like adding a 4th wife was a bad idea, I’m surprised they were all on board. Unless one of them was pushing for it?

[@lynnvon8758]

Robyn purposely showed up to Logan's graduation late. Wanted Kody to leave watching Logan walk to help her. Im surprised you didn't comment on that.

[@SomethingOfVariety]

Spoiler! * * * * * How did Kurt clock the gay immediately! 😂😂 I’m laughing so hard as a loyal sister wives watcher

[@betsybabf748]

His name is Kirk, and why are you posting spoilers in a comment section where all have been told NO SPOILERS? Do you think you get special permission if you write "Alert, I'm doing it anyway"? 🤦🏻‍♀🤦🏻‍♀

[@WitchOracle]

​@@betsybabf748 Dr. Kirk has said it's fine as long as it is marked so knows not to read it, even better if the main comment is hidden by line breaks so it's easy to scroll past without accidentally reading it

[@rak7293]

Robyn is what we today will call a Pickme . A very problematic person for other women to be around

[@KatyOfLuna]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, and I don't know if it's a spoiler as I've never watched the show. But I've heard that Christine is the granddaughter of Rulon Clark Allred. He was a leader of AUB. Just thought that might help with insight on her. I will delete this comment if it's a spoiler! (Sorry if it is!) Just let me know!!

[@WitchOracle]

I don't believe it's a spoiler! I think it may have come up with the exAUB member Dr. Kirk interviewed a while back

[@WitchOracle]

I don't believe it's a spoiler! I think it may have come up with the exAUB member Dr. Kirk interviewed a while back

[@lino7232]

Buying the houses sight unseen 🤣 house is blind?

[@Stormy575]

I want to know about the Viagra question 😂

[@kimm6589]

I don't!

[@jennifercave-np4ow]

Dr K. , did you not tell us of a mean April Fools Joke you played on your mom? And you were younger and you said you instantly regretted it? Or was that a regular prank?

[@la-girl3020]

Mariah goes by Leon (they/them) now

[@betsybabf748]

He has clearly stated numerous times not to comment any spoilers. He, and viewers watching for the first time with him, do not want anything posted of what has happened to this family in life after the episode he posted. Have some respect and delete this comment.

[@muirenn99]

Dr Honda ily but there was like 5 separate ads in this 🥲

[@mokc913]

I don't think he has any control over how many ads are included per video. That's KZbin.

[@muirenn99]

@@mokc913 didn’t know that! I think he can choose to have them all at the start or the end though instead of throughout. I like to listen to him while I do stuff away from my phone🙂

[@basteed]

@@muirenn99 Get yourself an ad blocker! You'll still see the sponsored segments (i.e., the Better Help blurb), but the other ads all come from KZbin.

[@betsybabf748]

Yes, there are ads if you want videos free. Those of us who don't want ads pay the $10 monthly for Premium.

[@muirenn99]

@@betsybabf748 I’m deffo considering it! ☺️

[@truthhurts3709]

Robyn saying are you being careful. This coming from the lady that was pregnant during her first wedding and giving freebies under the bleechers at school.

[@cassandrashelton3690]

Oh that's not nice at all. We all acted alil crazy when we were teens. And we have no idea what she was doing.

[@truthhurts3709]

@@cassandrashelton3690 I mean she was pregnant during her wedding so we do know what she was doing. And multiple men have told about Robyn and the bleechers. Anyways, I personally don't have an issue with premarital, my point being it's pretty hypocritical on Robyn's part.

[@kimm6589]

OPE!!! 😳

[@Schu0086]

She was pregnant during her wedding and clearly feels a great deal of shame and regret about that. She’s saying it because she’s scared for him. Robyn has a lot of faults and I dislike that weird purity speech she gives but I think she was genuinely just encouraging him to be careful in this situation.

[@koralbisme]

I think what she said is valid, especially following the interview Dr Honda had with the ex-member. She indicated that the culture within their church is to always please the men and they weren't taught what to do if they wanted to do something you didn't want to do. It may literally be a "be careful" without talking navigating situations like that. Regardless, shaming women for having sex is always gross even if you think she's being hypocritical here. We don't know the circumstances and women already get SO MUCH shame around sex, even outside of their church. You can say a lot of things about Robyn, but referring to her as "giving out freebies under the bleechers at school", which we can't even confirm as true, is gross and unwarranted. Especially given their status and how many people would have an issue with them on the show, I would take a lot of skepticism with any "sources" who make these claims. Because. Why even talk about your sexual history with her unless it's purely to shame her for... not hurting anyone?

[@AmblingSoulCC]

Intentional planning would need to take place.... Not exactly a strong suit of this family

[@L.Be_31]

Your comments are so dead on for what happens later lol

[@Sleepingsparklegirl]

Mariah is Transgender and goes by Leon, has been Leon I think for 2-3 years and I believe the pronoun that Leon uses is they.

[@michellekennedy454]

It’s been mentioned on every video almost, but dr. Kirk has requested us to not spoil anything. He’s keeping his experience watching the show to be authentic without future information.

[@betsybabf748]

How many times does he have to say not to comment any spoiler, which means nothing that has happened to any of the after the episode he is on? He does not want to know anything, and his viewers who are following it for the first time do not want to know anything that has happened after the episode he is on. Have respect for him and his viewers and delete this comment. 🤦🏻‍♀🤦🏻‍♀

[@Catmom-gl5nt]

Not only that, but while I understand the feelings surrounding dead naming, reality is reality. Leon was Mariah when this occurred, you can’t rewrite history no matter how much people try. I can’t understand how people ignore the terrifying 1984 connotations surrounding insisting that people who have transitioned should have their pasts erased or rewritten to suit current beliefs. That’s not how reality works, what happened, happened, Leon was once a girl named Mariah.

[@liadown9052]

​​@@Catmom-gl5ntI don't think it erases the past. It respects the wishes of the person whom one is referring to. If you don't want to do it, then consider not talking about them at all. And I'm pretty sure that the Dr would definitely want to know this type of information as he has a thriving practice in my neighboring city of the very progressive Seattle.

[@michellekennedy454]

@@liadown9052 this information has been shared on almost every video now though. If he was going to call them by their new name, he would already be doing so. This is an exercise in futility. Pointless. There’s no reason to keep bringing it up any more. It won’t change anything.

[@magikenzee]

16:01 people have a lot of negative opinions of Robin but I think she just truly believes in the religion and the way of life it spouts so she seems evil cause she's following along not standing up for herself

[@LizPalmer-w4y]

Not

[@Dauerglotzer123]

Not to spoil it but that is not the generap consensus I know of woth people up to date. Non spoilers she got pregnant pre marriage and divorced which isnt devout either.

[@kimm6589]

Yea no

[@magikenzee]

@user-re5fn9wl9w at the end of the day even in current episodes she is the only one saying yes kody whatever you say kody your the boss kody and when ur told that's how your wives are supposed to act and only 1/4 does 🤷‍♀️

[@magikenzee]

@@Dauerglotzer123 at the end of the day even in current episodes she is the only one saying yes kody whatever you say kody your the boss kody and when ur told that's how your wives are supposed to act and only 1/4 does 🤷‍♀️

[@prchix]

I wish Dr.H would have gone more into Meri being a pain in the A.s.s. about that wet bar.

[@liadown9052]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but the person formerly known as Moriah now goes by Leon - they/them (I think). Edit: I'm sure he'd want to know this. It won't "ruin" the show. Anyone posting otherwise probably doesn't understand the pain of being dead named so I'd encourage you to educate yourself.

[@secretsinthedark5704]

Nobody cares

[@betsybabf748]

We don't mention it because Dr. Honda has clearly stated that no one is to post anything that has happened to any of the family members after the episode he is on. He does not want to know, and his viewers who are watching for the first time with him, do not want to know, so you should have respect and delete this comment.

[@tantecarro8672]

I hate the dead naming of Leon😢 i wish Kirk knew that Mari’s kid is now is non binary and go by the name Leon!

[@secretsinthedark5704]

Nobody cares

[@betsybabf748]

You clearly don't hate being selfish and disrespectful to Dr. Honda and all his viewers who do not want any spoilers. How many times has he stated not to post any of this information of what has happened to any of the family members after the episode he is on, explaining it ruins all he is doing and the experience of his and many of his viewers? If you can't respect him and so many others, the adult thing would be just for you to stay away from this channel, not for you to be self-centered and disrespect everyone else.

[@tantecarro8672]

@@betsybabf748 i care more about a transgenders feelings then a spoiler in a tv show

[@ArielLVT]

FIRST! For once!

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

Please refer to Dead named Mariah as Meri's child at least.

[@Indoforscots-s2l]

He’s watching this for the first time, and has previously asked for no spoilers!! So please delete your comment.

[@ResidentMilf]

Hanlon's razor: never attribute to malice what can easily be explained by ignorance. It's far more likely that Dr. Honda simply doesn't know about their transition. He says he avoids the kids' social media so he doesn't get spoilers, and at the point in the series he's watching, Leon hasn't even come out yet, much less changed their name.

[@selfcarewithstephanie3519]

@@Indoforscots-s2l it's never covered on the show so not a spoiler. Also the real person has asked for people to no longer refer to them by that name. With as many kids as there are just using Meri's child gives away nothing and respects the real life person's request.

[@truthhurts3709]

I'd like a trans perspective of this name issue. If you are called by your dead name when referring to the past when you identified as that name is it inappropriate?

[@smw11581]

My ex is trans. There is no standard rule. It varies from person to person and how they feel about it.

[@leigh-annoosthuizen6062]

It's sad that they played this prank about Logan being arrested for being drunk, and later Garrison dies with an alleged alcohol overdose.

[@ResidentMilf]

I don't know where you heard that, Garrison died of a self-inflicted GSW to the head.

[@brit8172]

@leigh FYI he asked for no spoilers in the comments.

[@judypranke735]

Sadly it wasn't alcohol overdose. Alcohol played a factor. Sorry for the spoiler.

[@deny2294]

you could at least edit your comment to hide the spoiler tho

[@kimm6589]

Rude