TRADING DEANDRE AYTON! | 10 Year Phoenix Suns Rebuild | NBA 2K22

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[@vonpessumal19]

That Gobert-Ayton swap is very unrealistic although it makes sense for both teams. This won’t happen because Phoenix doesn’t want to go too much over the luxury tax by paying 3 guys Max and Bridges 20 mil. They would do a trade with someone who makes significantly less like Turner, Capela etc. Just wanted to point this out! Anyway good stuff as always!

[@BOnYTB]

Ya it makes 0 sense money wise, and logistically it’s very tough for both teams to pull off since UTA would be hard capped. So yea getting Ayton is awesome for Utah, he’s a way better younger asset than Gobert and you can build around Ayton/Mitchell…but they’d still have an old team and a lot of bad contracts. So with the hard cap it’s hard for them to get much better for 22-23, but it’d be worth it for the future if Mitchell would stay I guess. But like I said $ wise why would PHX do this? They’d be taking on like $10M+ more with Gobert instead of Ayton. They’d be a DEEP luxury tax team which seems to be the opposite of what they wanna do.

[@Nitringo_NBA]

It's kind of disturbing that Gobert is attempting some 3's lol

[@daschawk]

"Ben Simmons. I'll pass" You and Ben have something in common.

[@darlingtonatuba5910]

The reason you're my favorite 2k KZbinr is that 9/10 you make smart realistic moves. That being said, as you were trading for Gobert I was yelling out No!!! 😆

[@FFT66]

Smart and realistic? He traded shamet for the lakers pick which turned out to be pick 8 . The pelican would never do that . That isn’t realistic at all .

[@darlingtonatuba5910]

@ValdBagina 3 that's why I said 9 times out of 10 lol

[@Odawg2006]

If you looked at who the Pistons drafted at 5 in the first offseason they drafted TyTy, who you definitely could’ve traded Ayton for in a package

[@duncanwalter3613]

I don't see Phoenix having the leverage to get such a high lottery pick player plus other stuff for Ayton. Sign and trades usually end up nowhere near reflecting the players value. Plus it seems like Ayton 100% wants out and Phoenix dknt want to pay him so don't think they'll get much in return except trying to make the salaries work

[@CRAFTYSWORLD]

Agree a pick and possibly a decent role player

[@CRAFTYSWORLD]

U gotta start putting the best player or the person u want u want scoring the most the number one opt n start having the defensive player on the team Guard the person that’s giving u a problem lol

[@BOnYTB]

@@duncanwalter3613 ya I think a S&T would return very limited assets for PHX bc the team has to pay him the max AND give up something for him. It’s not like him on a max is some great value. Top superstars are a value even on the max, but Ayton might not even be a + contract on a max. It’s at least close, he’s likely either properly paid or a bit overpaid. So nobody wants to give up any good asset(s) AND max him. Plus with Ayton being base year compensation, doing a S&T is tricky unless it’s with a cap team or at least a team way below the tax. Like idk if you’d even get someone like Isaiah Stewart back in an Ayton S&T. All they might get is a trade exception and like a decent 1st round pick or a decent role player. You’re not getting like pick 5 for Ayton in a S&T, and I highly doubt you’re even getting Jerami Grant in a S&T. If Ayton took less than the max then that’d open up a solid asset going PHX’s way, but I don’t see that happening. Maybe if PHX was willing to attach a 1st they could get a good piece back. Maybe Ayton S&T and like a 2024 T4 protected 1st would get you Jerami Grant. I really don’t know. A cap team can just send an offer sheet if they rly think you won’t match so getting assets is hard. If Ayton for some reason was willing to sign for like 4/120 on DET in a S&T so they got a discount, then maybe they’d be willing to send back Beef Stew. That’d give PHX a solid sized trade exception, and a very young cheap C who has potential to be a solid starter. I find that SOOOO unlikely though. PHX is best off trying to sign Ayton to a 5yr deal for a bit under the max. The most another team can do is like ~4/130 off the top of my head. PHX can do 5/175. PHX should try to get him signed for around 5/150. I think that’d be a good deal for both sides, and it’s a tradeable contract if they wanted to move him in the future. I think 5/150 would be enough to keep him assuming he doesn’t BADLYYYY want out. So that’s what I’d do if I were PHX.

[@reggiegarcia07]

I’m sitting here in my cubicle, and this was the perfect way to start my Monday work week

[@Scoiattolo]

Another great video! Payne was the last survivor of the original squad, which is something I didn't expect to see.

[@jacobtucker3843]

The Thunder and Pelicans should dominate that league with all those top 5 picks. Crazy!

[@ITGShaddyMaCC]

If done right they will be powerhouses soon

[@runglebeast9723]

Really wish you would have played Jared Butler after first off-season. Gobert is interesting, not sure about it, I think the Spurs would have been better option. Love rebuilds as always!

[@colejacobson1499]

De'andre for Siakim??

[@micah.1009]

The suns got better because they had a pg that focused on play making and pg like lonzo, cp3 , Lebron ,and players like draymond are why the team succeed.

[@lourencocarvalho5997]

As you might've see, there is a romour around the NBA that in 2024 we'll have 2 new expansion teams, one in Las Vegas and the supersonics again. It would be cool if you could make a rebuild with one of the teams! Keep up with the good work love the vids

[@dadwithtourettes]

I'm at just 8 minutes in, but I had to get in here. The pistons signed Ayton, you should've traded Ayton to the pistons lol Also, for future RFA trades, please look up previous RFA packages, they are no where near what you and everyone else thinks they'd get. LBJ signed with the heat in a sign and trade for 2 firsts that ended up being 30th and 24th and 2nds. Bucks got a first from pacers (24th) for the Brogdan S&T. The pistons got the draft rights to pick 16(Stewart) in the S&T for Wood. Youre looking at MAYBE a future first but Suns (imo likely) prefer win now players vs future picks (good because my pistons owe OKC so we don't have a pick to move other than 5 and yeah no lol) so going back may be Olynyk and 2nds, maybe you can get Hays or Diallo (more likely diallo even tho he is the better player currently) MAYBE they give Beef Stew. Keep up the grind

[@brysonwalker6384]

i don’t think any GM in the league would trade ayton for gobert lol

[@alberth1150]

Facts!!! Lol that’s a downgrade

[@justinwebb1714]

Well it is sros, he seems to love using the same guys and doesn’t realize how much of a downgrade that is

[@trent5395]

Longtime Suns fan here. You did your best. Looks like 2k implemented some Robert Sarver storyline to curse your rebuild.

[@BOnYTB]

2K only protects picks for one year, so OKC gets INFINITE picks, and really good ones. Ones they wouldn’t get IRL (like DET’s) bc of multi year protections. That causes some serious issues. Any team that has a lot of future picks of teams that often end up bad too. Like LAL often ends up REALLY bad and NOP has a lot of their picks. MIL ends up bad a lot and NOP has their picks. OKC owns a lot of LAC picks and they often end up really bad too. So that pick hoarding w/o multi year protections, crazy progression, and OP draft classes end up making insanely OP teams. It gets more noticeable the longer in to the future you go. You reallyyyy should stop using user created draft classes after the 2023 class or you’ll just keep running in to this over and over. Just auto generate classes after ‘23. Every user class is SOOOO OP and we have no idea who’s going to be good in the 2024 class. Hell we barely know who’s going to be good in the ‘23 class, or even ‘22 class. Everyone ends up good basically in the user created ones.

[@joshuaaragon3727]

you deliver nothing but bangers bro, keep it up ! 🔥

[@DEEZY2]

Could you do a thunder number 2 pick video?

[@iammarlonwilson]

never doubt my warriors!

[@gradycramer9151]

Smartest rebuilder of all time

[@mcj7042]

20 year rebuild kings

[@chrisschmidt6785]

Honestly hands down. This is the best video ive ever seen. You should colab with joe weyer since your not successful

[@tyson9345]

A nuggets 18 ring rebuild would be interesting.

[@rondo9517]

great rebuild matt! you are the rebuild king

[@dcanngieter]

Celtics fan here...... You're out of your mind if you think we won't trade Williams and White for Ayton

[@rondo9517]

Hell no. Robert's defense is unbelievable, Ayton's defense is shite. I'm with Matt on this one

[@dcanngieter]

@@rondo9517 Robert's defense is great.....great playmaker and finisher. Health is issue and Ayton in this system would be an animal. Love Robert but Ayton has superstar potential and you want as much of those

[@kcassidy90]

Can’t wait for us to win a ring in 9 years woo

[@clarkecrawfordsports]

Rockets rebuild please I’m curious to see who you would take for them because as a Rockets fan the obvious biggest need is the PF spot

[@samwaeilyousif2865]

You should do a what if demarcus cousins never got injured on the pelicans

[@graysonwilbanks1591]

Can you please do an OKC rebuild now that we have the second pick?

[@noodstradamus]

banger video, no offense but the videos are better when u struggle. also big up cam payne for signing 9 1-year deals in a row,

[@KingWallace42]

Ayton put his hands on one of the coaches at the game.

[@aero7882]

Booker scored less because you raised the shot tendency for all the other players in comparison

[@whygrxxn5517]

U did a 0-18 suns rebuild 2 months ago

[@LeBronFan109]

What mode do you do this in, and how do you do it?

[@cameroncoomer6744]

What roster did u use that had the draft lottery in order

[@cecepero1095]

Since everyone compares Anthony Edwards to Michael Jordan and the people say they look identical do a Edwards career sim where he has to get 6 championships 5 mvps, and a lot of scoring titles

[@edub1577]

You should do a 10 year pistons rebuild signing Ayton and trading Grant

[@benjaminclarke1992]

Wouldn’t trading for Gobert put the Suns super over the cap?

[@Odawg2006]

Probably lol

[@JeyDub08]

if they give Ayton the max in a sign and trade, it would be easier to match the salaries

[@xavierhargraves8698]

Ayton for Gobert is by far your worst 2k trade ever. By far, not even close 😂 PHX would never! I couldn’t stop laughing and smh lol

[@bobostamour]

When is the milwaukee bucks rebuild

[@nikkigilmore325]

Why don’t u start sending them to camp in the off season

[@Bdogg12139]

29:30. I knew you would win that series because New Orleans won theres

[@roscoe2746]

Been waiting for this one 🔥

[@iammarlonwilson]

i think you should’ve traded chris paul for a young guard… then packaged ayton and johnson for a solid big

[@calebevrard910]

Could you do a thunder rebuild with the 2nd and 12th pick?

[@iammarlonwilson]

play your starters more minutes!!! the bench gets too many minutes

[@dreworlick4933]

How do you get the correct draft order for this year into the sim?

[@kevintang5722]

For like the 50th time there's a tab to shorten the rotation if you don't want to play 10 players 🤦‍♂️

[@Wheres.leland]

Ayton for gobert?? Idk about that bc what does that really change for the suns. You get a great regular season defender and that’s about it. Just doesn’t seem that the suns really get better from that but I could be criminally underrating gobert 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Wheres.leland]

And your banking on other guys making a jump offensively which could easily back fire. They gotta get something that at least keeps them where their at plus draft capital and idk if a trade like that exists

[@7elevenevan]

If you want a PG to average more assists just edit their "pass to open man" tendency. Simons will go from like 5 apg to like 7-8

[@picafavo3466]

You should do a Pacers rebuild where they do this trade to move up in the draft. OKC: Myles Turner, 6th Pick, 2023 First(Via CLE) IND: 2nd Pick, Aaron Wiggins

[@kentaviouscaldwell-goat5880]

OKC would never do that lmfao this years top 3 is like last years, the difference in value at 3-6 is pretty big imo

[@eitansaban5889]

I agree with kcg

[@eitansaban5889]

This is like a.j. Griffin, Myles Turner, 15-20 pick for chet or Jabari

[@calebrodriguez6088]

As a Pacers fan, I approve this message

[@picafavo3466]

@@eitansaban5889 basically.

[@user-xt2wp1qe1c]

You should do another suns or bucks but trade for Kd

[@kylesoriano8919]

Had to cut it off after I seen the trade for gobert sorry my guy that was rough

[@DJ-on3gc]

Dude can you please play your starters more than 30 mins lmao youve played this game for 10 years

[@SeizedM0ney]

I could see phoenix trade for kp or another shooting big

[@joeyd2231]

CP3 and Shamet for Russ and pick(s) - woulda done that

[@mikejavid]

The 2k sim hates the Suns

[@aryanparikh6714]

I don’t think the suns would trade crowder for a pick

[@miguelzaragoza2620]

Sacramento kings next!!!!

[@DG_3753]

You need to play your stars more minutes

[@sccdddf1595]

Ayton definitely leaving

[@housesuns-kings8480]

IMO cp3 was bad against the Mavs because he was tired as he got a lot of minutes against the pels and didnt have his star player, dbook

[@xInfiniteCaliber]

That Gobert trade was awful. I don’t think it makes them better at all and it pigeonhole’s them even further paying 2 aging dudes max money.

[@JC4.80]

Bruh I’m on ps5 and I just seen Dior Johnson and he’s a 73 on my save? (I do injuries bc it’s a sim/play league)

[@Orangebear295]

Do a expansion rebuild Sim to 2024 and rebuild a team

[@angolu_]

This one was hard to watch

[@jake_mk_0314]

ayton and picks to raptors for siakam

[@milo3895]

Ayton to New York for Randle and Rose

[@earlruiz7866]

I would love for the Mavs to get Ayton, they are only one good big away(hopefully he blossoms to a all-star next season or that caliber of a player) from winning a chip, cause Luka is a really good pick and roll player but has undersized big men but Ayton is a 7ft, Athletic, High Upside big for the Mavs future but thats all useless if Luka isn’t conditioned and gets injured, they can also sign and trade Ayton for Gobert or Towns.

[@doublet4967]

The reason you we're the 10 seed the 1st year is because 2k just hates the suns

[@BOnYTB]

You reallyyyy should stop using user created draft classes after the 2023 class or you’ll just keep running in to this over and over. Just auto-generate classes after ‘23. Every user class is SOOOO OP and we have no idea who’s going to be good in the 2024 class. Hell we barely know who’s going to be good in the ‘23 class, or even ‘22 class. Everyone ends up good basically in the user created ones and it ruins teams and messes up the cap.

[@jonathann4443]

You need to play your stars more. 32 minutes to your best players ain’t gonna help you win

[@praviadvokat7184]

There's no way Ayton is leaving suns irl

[@topfromflorida]

ayton avg 13 and 10 thats not deserving of a max contract

[@cjhtx5301]

Can someone tell me how to start in the offseason please? Ty

[@tristrg]

Download a scenario that says start today. Look at the settings/draft class tho the ppl who upload them sometimes mess with them

[@taurlen]

You’re hilarious. You said you were gonna keep it realistic and do a sign and trade. The went on to not even trade him to the team that actually signed him 😂😂😂😂

[@YuYuWooShow]

That first trade made no sense lmao, you have no offense. Literally only relying on Booker to score.

[@YuYuWooShow]

Why not restart the recording when it starts that bad?

[@SeizedM0ney]

Pace and space is boot cheeks without shooting bigs

[@themannextdoorr]

Lamelo would have saved him.

[@Realizehypno]

Trading da is so dumb. Idk why everyone is so hyped about it. Match his offer and trade at the next deadline but only with an equal exchange. Otherwise keep him but deff no sign and trade. That’s so stupid

[@Bozyjay]

Thank god u not the suns gm

[@Mattjonesll]

These long rebuilds aren’t it for me personally man. especially when you don’t even hop in for a bit. Fall asleep half the time.

[@calebhearn1776]

Maybe more editing and less dead time in menus would shorten the video itself a bit, but I like the long scale rebuilds in terms of developing players and experimenting.

[@FFT66]

So first you trade for smith jr and say you need scoring and offense and then the next year you trade for triple J and say you desperately need defense . I’m beginning to think you have no idea what you’re doing 😂😂😂😂

[@KillerKaii]

So instead of paying DA they trade for one of the worst contracts in the NBA? 😂

[@jonathanholloway8822]

Again with Bacot having 41 badges 😂

[@jchaney229]

Man when you didn't let Nash be coach, I had to click off the video

[@pierrefalcis4524]

third

[@itsjaiden1723]

First

[@tcgcomic2130]

Didn't ask

[@azzizzsallahh]

still saying first in 2022?😭😒

[@itsjaiden1723]

@@azzizzsallahh smd

[@azzizzsallahh]

@@itsjaiden1723 you gets no hoes