SIZING & BREAK IN : RED WING "1907" Moc Toe Boots

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[@mrgoodkat8567]

My girlfriend always makes fun of me because when i get a new pair of RWs for work or casual, i dont wear them outside for about 2 weeks and instead wear them when im in the house. I’ll be walking around in my underwear with my socks and boots lol. But hey, it works

[@electroviking-jg8qh]

Literally what I'm going through man, trying to make sure it fits perfectly before i take them outdoors haha

[@SuperUnknownKIDS]

Lol that's what I'm doing now😂😂

[@yuanhuang9170]

Sounds sexy

[@nathanhill6042]

Trust me I get some strange looks too but at least I’m not alone

[@huskdigittidog2738]

Omfg I thought I was the only weirdo in this world hahahaha I love this !!!!

[@ramonaHQ]

Good advice on wearing them at work before hitting the pavement. Even then I wore my new 8883’s outside prematurely and have destroyed my heels. Hoping it’s actually worth the bloodshed. 😂

[@bigdaddyguero13devildog11]

Let me tell you from experience. I bought first my first pair a little less than a year ago. When I purchase them from Red Wing store they gave me the cleaning kit along with the leather conditioner. Well if you want your boots to get darker used leather conditioner if you don't want your boots to get darker use leather boot cream. My boots turned a dark mahogany color. They didn't look bad, but I didn't spend $300 to have my boots look that color. I took them back to Red Wing and they exchanged them for a new pair of 1907 copper color. I have now applied booking and they have not gotten darker they stay the same color. Just a word of advice. Overall the best pair of boots I've ever worn

[@DevonReviewer]

Thanks for the feedback, will try out that boot cream at some point!

[@Frostflakes08]

May I ask the leather boot cream product you used please?

[@jjnewman65]

Great info. What leather boot cream please 🙏

[@graffbash909]

Did you wear the "insert sole" right away?

[@bioches]

wear them at home when they are brand new. then wear them on commute and switch out to your current boots when on site. then wear it for half a day. took me 3 weeks of this process to break them in

[@SavageX125]

I just got a pair of 1907s and I immediately treated them with mink oil, I’m going to wash them with saddle soap in about 2 weeks, but I mildly wore them yesterday out to pick up takeout and my girlfriend from work, my feet were a little sore but we went into a store and I walked and they weren’t as bad as I thought they were gunna be. I wear an 11 in modern work boot brands and 10.5EE in my 1907s. I love them already can’t wait until they are broken in.

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

Why would you wash a two week old pair of boots with saddle soap?? Saddle soap should only be used when absolutely necessary for a really, really soiled pair of boots. Otherwise it’s totally unnecessary and ends up pulling the oils and waxes out of the leather.

[@5upgunplay551]

This is how I do it: I lather them with oil to soften for the first 2 week- YES I KNOW. It darkens leather, but after 2 weeks I wash with saddle soap and dry them in the shade. That strips the oils and makes the leather lighter. Wear for another 2 weeks WITHOUT TREATING THEM. after that use leather conditioner and it will be a beautiful patina already. Trust me.

[@mburke1211]

Great description of the fit and break-in. I just got a pair of 1907's, and they are a little snug in the toe-box. I plan to wear them around the house for a couple of hours to make sure they will work for me. Your advice is very helpful.

[@DevonReviewer]

Enjoy, mine are now many years old, in need of a resole, but very comfortable!

[@SeoulDaddy09]

I’m right at one month with my 1907s. I wear them daily and am on my feet all day. My job is definitely “white collar” but casual enough to wear my boots with denim pants. The fit is way better now, sneaker comfortable if not better. I did find that my right foot took longer to break in than the left. I also experienced the same rub on the top knuckles of my toes in the beginning.

[@Orlanzepol123]

Did he just say you’ll get a good year out of the outsole?. That is just ridiculous. To spend all that money on a pair of boots to then have have them resouled . I have seen many people adding a different and more durable soul on ttheir Moc Toes. That’s why I can bring myself to buying these even at $100 savings . They are nice though.

[@777muddogger]

The best leather treatment I use that doesnt darken is Bicks #4 leather conditioner. You like it.

[@Marx_Ramone]

Right on! and it is counter intuitive because is really cheap, but its true it works. It doesn't darken

[@madride858585]

I just purchased these boots. i absolutely love the way they look. Your video was very informative and helpful. Thank you

[@edrader]

My 6" mocs were comfortable from the get go. my round toes were murder. the difference is the fit. the mocs are looser (different last). really surprised me.

[@TourGuide223]

My first pair of heritage mocs were extremely comfortable from the get go, that was roughly a year ago and they're the dark brown pair. Today my dad bought me a black pair for Christmas and I've been wearing them all day and they killed my feet. There are a lot of different reasons that could be but this time around I'm definitely not going to break them in by just wearing them every day lol

[@TheMensch]

i just love the rough and tough leather- i have concrete r & mocs in the mail right now. The left is super soft right away and for some reason i find no problem breaking in the insole. for some reason i dont find discomfort with the hard leather footbed maybe i have stiff feet lol

[@JJ-lu6mg]

Try lexol leather conditioner it doesn’t darken the leather at all its a mild conditioner that my local cobbler recommend. I agree 💯% that the 1907’s are easier to break in than the 875’s and when they do get properly broken in they are much more comfortable as well.

[@user-vq5pp6bb8f]

Break in experiences are all over the board with heritage RW's. My Iron ranger break-in was un eventful. My work chukkas felt mostly pre-broke in.

[@Thefury06484]

Red wing leather cream will not darken the leather. I use that on my 8830s and wabashas. I’d definitely look into that if it’s available in Europe.

[@dwnickerson]

I've used the neutral RW leather cream on my Oro Legacy 877 and worked perfectly. It won't soften the leather as well as oil.

[@user-ff4so8it1r]

Thank you i was going bonkers trying to decide about going down a 1/2 size, but i guess better off a little loose in my toes, maybe get thicker insole inserts, vs. getting ingrown toenails. Sidenote ( my left foot is a half size smaller than my right so left shoe drives me a lil' bonkers.)

[@alexocampo9982]

Hi Devon! Always a pleasure to watch your videos. 😎👍 Now that you’ve owned both boots for awhile, the 875 and 1907’s , how do they feel with and with out insoles? Which model boot has naturally molded better to your feet? What’s the difference? Thank you!

[@jaystrongbow9435]

Bick 4 will condition, and it will not darken your red wings at all. It will not waterproof however, but your leather will soften significantly

[@austinjohnson3977]

I just got a pair of these and I love how they feel but man the break in is brutal, my heels go numb after 20 min of walking

[@heisenberg6334]

Do you have some heel slippage ? I just got a pair and I have minor slippage

[@JimS870]

I wear custom orthotics. Should i break these in with the orthotics? And if so, should I remove the little leather foot bed before I pull the orthotics in? Or should I put the orthotics over the leather foot bed?

[@astrozombie989]

For Red Wing sizing here’s what I’ve done for at least 5 pairs… size down and get the wide version EE. Perfect fit every time. Example, I’m a 9.5 U.S. in Vans and Nike. In Red Wing I go 8.5 EE. Hope that helps someone out.

[@lweleven3423]

Some very good reviews, shocked on your opinion on sizing I’m 8 in timberland , 8 wolverine 8 in Haix my redwing Rover are a 7 and my iron ranger a 7 .

[@harrisonkoff8805]

I have the 875s and just recently got a pair of 8883s (1907 in darker leather). The break in on the 875s was fairly easy, not blisters or anything. The 8883s are a much tougher break in so far. I had the store place them on the stretcher for 20 ish minutes and can barely even tell. Already have nasty blisters on my L heel and R pinky toe knuckle. Moc toes are my favorite though my next par will be the 8 inch 877s

[@elephantricity]

I'm still trying to break my moc toe's in. I can only take walking in them outdoors for 20 minutes or so before I have to call it quits. Its my heel that kills, because when I walk, my heels tend to slide up an down in the boot. Which is strange because my toes up front are super snug with no wiggle room, so I feel like the red wing salesman and me sized correctly...

[@omgwdfholypoop9328]

Did these ever get comfortable for you? I've had this problem with some Ariats before where it was super slick in the heel area so I got some super fine sandpaper ( like 400 grit and got rid of that shine to do away with the friction. Hope they're feeling better for yiu by this point though

[@rezzgoatrising1829]

Mine taking awhile to break in. Also I only wear them for about 21 minutes lol. But I had them sized and I went while wide size. But it’s starting to feel alittle more comfortable now.

[@devinpollard4540]

Are these feeling any better Alex Padilla?? I bought a pair and after wearing for 10 minutes they rubbed a blister on my heel. Wondering what results you had a year later.

[@elephantricity]

@@devinpollard4540 I bought thick insoles from Red Wing hoping it would make the seal around the heel tighter, but it didn't work. I ended up selling them. If I ever buy some mocs again I'm getting a half size smaller.

[@wayneloh2500]

Second day with new red wings 1907 very comfortable with insoles looking forward to breaking them in

[@jrandom2995]

Thx for this video. I agree that these run true to size. I took your advice and actually sized up a half size from my usual red wing work size, so I can wear heavy wool socks in the winter. Perfect fit and much easier break in.

[@jameshughes1574]

My pair just arrived today, I half size down and they are snug for sure, but that’s ok I’m certain my foot will swell them out haha. I agree though they are true to size. I’m guessing I could have went with an EE or half size up M. Too late I’m going to wear them with thicker sock to mold them out for sure.

[@williamhubbard4905]

I have the 877s and I approached them very ruggedly and I absolutely wrecked my feet. Currently trying my iron rangers and I am approaching them differently as well

[@loadblock4995]

William Hubbard Did you end up going with the same size between the two heritage boots?

[@williamhubbard4905]

loadblock49 nope, 10.5 d on the 877s 9.5 on the iron rangers

[@williamhubbard4905]

loadblock49 I wear 11 in everything else

[@dirtydan179]

Red Wing sells a product that doesn't darken the leather at all. It's call Red Wing boot cream

[@goodphotoideas]

I've found the 1907's to be true to size also. My US 13 D feet fit snugly into the 13 D 1907's. I'm hoping the slight heel slippage settles down when they're fully broken in. I've gotten lots of good advice from your channel. Thanks.

[@mattcheney6995]

did your heel slippage go away after break in? I’ve had a pair for almost two years and I still haven’t broken them in because they tear my heel to pieces every time I wear them... not had this problem with any of my red wing work boots over the last decade.

[@goodphotoideas]

@@mattcheney6995 the heel slippage is almost all gone, now that they’re broken in. Once in a while there is a very tiny slip, but it’s not worth mentioning.

[@AM-bk9ei]

@@goodphotoideas I just got these and they're tight on my heels plus have slippage, everything else is normal break in discomforts. The red wings store sized me an entire size smaller than I normally wear so I'm nervous that they're too small but if I go to a normal size they'll be too big. Maybe they're not right for me. Did you have the same experience which resulted in a perfect fit?

[@goodphotoideas]

@@AM-bk9ei I put a pair of $20 insoles that I cut way back to the main part of my feet (no insoles under toes). The boots fit snug. I can still wiggle my toes a bit. The heel slippage subsided as the boots broke in. They fit great and I love them. My feet are probably more like a 13.5. The boots are 13. Hope this helps.

[@hggy]

I’m going through this now, doing jumping jacks, kinda forcing the stretch

[@n3verm1ndlol]

Hi, please does anyone recommending applying the wonder balsam, Dr Martens (coconut oil, lanolin and beeswax) on the boots before the first wear? Or break the boots in first then oil them later down the track? Just got mine 875 Moc-Toe today, very pleased with them. Thank you

[@danielbillmyre7709]

I know this is some time later, but I prefer to use bick 4 for conditioning, and unless the boot is fairly new (manufacture date on tongue) I give it a decent slather of bick 4. Haven't seen significant darkening with that stuff yet

[@Freedom89984]

This last is very different from the 23 last. They are wider, but not at the point where the first eyelet starts at the bottom. There they are quit narrow. Also the length differs from the 23 last. My 28.5 cm size is a bit shorter than the 28.5 cm of the 23 last. So be aware that they are certainly not bigger that the same size of the 875 or 8131 for example.

[@jim-ue8ir]

Versus 875 is gonna be awesome.

[@bryandemont669]

I got 875's that I've had for 5 years and still haven't broken them in. Tongue on left boot digs into my ankle so I only venture to wear them a bit each month. Any tips for the 875's?

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

Grow a pair

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

The red wing boot cream won’t darken them.

[@kevyshaves4109]

Nice review. I really like the look of these boots but I'm dreading the break in period if I get a pair.

[@gabrielhouston8303]

Kevy Shaves it’s not that bad tbh people make them look so uncomfortable but actually they are comfortable right out the box but if you want a floppy piece of leather then you need to break them in.

[@manfrommeeteetse3880]

Kevy, hope you got a pair. I got my first pair at age 15 and they were a piece of cake to break in. My second pair in my early thirties were a little harder to break in but not not too bad. After a pack rat ate my second pair I now just bought my third pair and as I am in my mid-seventies it was like trying to break in a pair of bricks. So I think age is a factor in how people rate them in difficulty to break in. But a hundred miles later they feel pretty darn good and I suspect in another hundred miles they'll be just as good as the pair I wore for 40-plus years. Two pieces of advice, don't buy unless they put speed hooks on them at no charge, and use leather laces. I enjoy your shaving Channel.

[@robertwessells1850]

Devon Are you the guy that does surfboard reviews for boardshop uk?

[@ahill209]

I own a pair of Red Wing Iron Rangers. They fit perfectly when I went 1/2 size down. I tried on a pair of Mod Toe 875's the same size as my sneakers and my heel was very loose. Going a half size down the toe box was much tighter than my Iron Rangers. I thought the leather was much stiffer than my Iron Rangers as well. I didn't have time to try to go wider, but may do that over the holidays here.

[@michaelpark5681]

How's the sizing of 1907 compared to 875s? Should I go half size down from the 875 because of the larger toe box?

[@rustyshackleford17]

I find that the 1907s fit closer to the Iron Rangers. The 875s are much more narrow.

[@Kman1960]

Use “BICK 4” to condition, it will not darken the leather. It has no Neats Foot Oil, Mink Oil etc…

[@brianmaxwell1832]

Bought 877 wore them all day out first day and have blister size of golf ball on right heel 😂😂

[@JohnTan-py8zb]

hi. what size dr martens 1460 MIE are you wearing and what size do you wear on red wing1907 and 875? How does the 875's and 1907's compare with MIE 1460 docs in size?

[@alfredsfunvideos4270]

Quick opinion Blundstone 500, Redback or Dr. Martin Chelsea. Everyday and maybe work but not heavy duty work.

[@splootan]

Great video! Quick question, should there be any heal slip on the start of the journey? Thanks

[@DevonReviewer]

Ideally not, but a little heal slip in the first few days is sometimes corrected as the tongue breaks in allowing you to cinch the laces down and get a better fit

[@clevelandtyler2]

These have been THE worst break in of any Redwings Ive ever owned so far. I have Iron Rangers and 875s and they were nowhere near as bad as these.

[@MJNader81]

How do you guys wear them? With or without the insole?

[@rolly5558]

Dig the review mate ! Cheer 😃

[@SMAWA9]

agree with you about the size ✌🏽

[@rickyboyz1006]

I use mink oil on all my leather goods here in The Great White North in Canada!!!

[@metallicuda7701]

Where does everyone stand on the drop in in sole? Just got a pair of these and they fit better with the insole out. Should I just take it out or go get a half size larger to use the insole?

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

Definitely remove the insole. You want the thick veg tan leather insole and the cork beneath it to form to your feet. This takes time, usually several hundred miles of walking. But once it happens, they are super comfortable.

[@user-cz4pv7gy1u]

The pain you describe means that you need to get a wider size. Narrower boots will eventually give and form to your foot but why go through all the pain and discomfort when you can.get a wider size?

[@DevonReviewer]

Hi, true, unfortunately, as far as I am aware, Red Wing only supply their standard width boots to the UK. I guess because it is a smaller market.

[@user-cz4pv7gy1u]

DevonReviewer I’m sure they’ll put in a special order for E and EE widths if you email customer support. Your soles will last longer and wear more evenly if you get the right width. Stitching and shape will hold up better over time, too.

[@sputumtube]

I was thinking the same thing - these boots should be called the 'Red Wing Ex-Wife' because although they look good, they cost lots of money and give you long term pain...!!!

[@enricovr83]

HI ,I have the 1907 great boots. Can you try the new 8857? I want get that boots too.

[@damn_aykroyd7287]

Hi mate, super late to comment. Looking to buy my first pair of these. Sizing wise I’m dubious with all the different recommendations. For example I’m a uk10 in dr martens 1641/1640s, uk10 in new balance trainers. Really deliberating a 9.5 or 10 in these as I don’t want clown curl etc lol. Any advice?

[@damn_aykroyd7287]

Oh and just to add a uk10 in fracap is a little on the big/heel slip

[@rob21i]

Just picked these up in 11 wide

[@hankybostik7634]

ooo-ar my lova!

[@TudorFeraru]

are they clunkier than the 875s?

[@ciscomatic9775]

I have both, and the 1907s are definitely a wider boot which probably does make it a more "clunkier" boot.

[@spydermike18]

I like that boot,i actually have one pair 😉😊.

[@sgbcoop]

Just bought a pair of Thorogood 4200's,but really like the looks of the 1907. With your time spent with both boots now,would you recomend taking the Thorogoods back and go with the Red Wings? The Thorogoods are very comfortable, but the leather on the 1907's looks great.

[@DevonReviewer]

Hi, Red Wings are much tougher to break in but will last a long time and take at least a couple of resoles... my experience of the thorogood mocs is that they are much more comfortable, but would not be worth resoling... my choice now is red wing!

[@trainwreck2k2]

I have both and I agree. The redwing leather is a bit thicker and nicer after break in. I definitely can go back and forth. Cant go wrong with either. But over time I started wearing the Thorogood 804-4308 because I get a little longer life out of the thicker heel and sole and just have been preferring to have a heel over a wedge lately. My biggest gripe about both the 875 and 4200 is the outsoles. Just get slick and thin way to quick.

[@spydermike18]

The samething on the this 1907 Redwing with the thorogood is the sole,they made pretty much same wide,but othrrs redwing they made it with narrow soles wich don't help much when you walk uneven roads,also redwing are really xpensive but the thorogood you can get a pair of 814-4200 for less than 2 hundred bucks.

[@sgbcoop]

@@DevonReviewer Thanks Devon,great videos.

[@sgbcoop]

@@trainwreck2k2 Thanks for your input.

[@dylanwirkus2119]

The laces that come on the boots suck

[@12Radius]

True to size ..Yes works better !

[@kylekleinknecht281]

A company riding on the coattails of their past making a crappy product and charging you an arm and a leg. Giving made in the USA a black eye. I bought a pair, 3 months in the sole started coming off the boot. Never got them wet, I work in a warehouse. Company replaced them without a hassle. Next pair came with a giant black streak across the whole toe box. Returned them and was sent a THIRD pair. Even more larger black streaks and the leather was dry (made label was a year old). I get they are work boots, but I will get them dirty and stained not right out of the box. Returning for a refund and buying a pair of whites perrys

[@mirceacostineanu4103]

Bick 4...saphir renovator...will not darken at all

[@achillesdanieladam9486]

1907 in comparison to Iron Ranger are same size for you or not?

[@teacherpaco]

X2, I am a size 8.5 D in iron rangers but I don’t know if I should go up half a size or get an 8.5. I have heard people saying that sizing up is necessary cause they are extra snug, and other people saying that they are extra sung, and some that they run wide. Which one Is it?

[@teacherpaco]

Hello, I too wear IR in 8.5D, and I got a pair of 1907 in 8.5EE. They 8.5EE fits super nicely, it was a bit tight at first but the leather broke in quite nicely. I am currently doing research because I want to get a pair of roughnecks which are made on the 23 last. However, I think I might get the same size in roughnecks as I did with the 1907s.

[@user-mm5te6px8g]

Are these safety toes?

[@jeffloucks2120]

No

[@Mac-mu9cs]

Breaking in, if your boots fit well they should not need a lot of break in.

[@MsKatiepeter]

Hi Mr Baz. ....

[@DevonReviewer]

Eh?

[@liammahan4497]

Just got some 8 inch 877s. Fuck my life and my feet. Death.

[@xoxUnD3R0aThxox]

heavy clunky foot torture

[@robertkeating1899]

My 1907s were a bear to break in due to the mock toe seams

[@DevonReviewer]

Thanks, definitely part of the design that makes life tougher during break in. Have you tried the 0875/875s?

[@robertkeating1899]

@@DevonReviewer nope, I have the iron ranger and the 3140 chukka and a pair of wolverine 1000 mile

[@teacherpaco]

@@robertkeating1899 hello, Compared to your iron rangers, how do these fit length and width-wise compared to iron rangers? I am a size 8.5 in iron rangers and 9.5 in very thing else. Should I size up half a size en get a 9?

[@robertkeating1899]

@@teacherpaco hi, I'm a 7.5 and D width in both. Plenty of width room and hight in the IR toe box. Tighter with the moc toe, but breaks in after a brutal time. I assume they can be stretched on hight and width. Your call 😁. The mocs are my favorite ....