Did Apartheid Really Die in South Africa?

[@Vukuzenzele]

The private sector is what's keeping this country from collapsing. Apartheid didn't die, because the ANC is keeping it alive.

[@SinoM123]

that is so reductive.

[@Vukuzenzele]

You're quite right, I failed to mention that the EFF also significantly contributes to the persistence of racial tension in South Africa, preventing us from making any progress. @@SinoM123

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

The problem Dr. Mpofu-Welsh is that people do not define their freedom for themselves, they let political parties and the media define what freedom is for them. One of the most problematic situation we are faced with in Africa; particularly in South Africa, we lack critical thinking skills. When some of us pointed to the problematic CODESA deal, at the time it was not fashionable to do so, we were either criticized or ignored, now the little snake that no one saw, has only revealed its tails. Instead of people looking for the whole snake, they are discussing about the tail. Thanks for the book Dr. Welsh-Mpofu for the book.

[@jesserandelhoff4744]

Yeah the education system is raping our kids intellectually.....

[@koketsomakatu7555]

"Giving people the vote cannot fix what denying them the vote has broken". You are really putting things into perspective sir 🤝

[@_SMWX]

👊🏽

[@_SMWX]

Thanks for watching. You can buy a delivered signed copy of the book here: sizwempofuwalsh.com/product/thenewapartheid

[@African_Fairy]

Thank you for the book

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽

[@cayminlast]

Very interesting to hear a different perspective. The average person who has followed the birth of the rainbow nation from an international perspective, see the abject failure of the ANC may be due to institutionalised criminal behaviour within the top level, filtering down to even the minor officials, not the ghost of apartheid, it's easier to justify wrongdoing with emotion and finding a convenient scapegoat as an excuse for ineptitude.

[@jesserandelhoff4744]

Wait are you saying the failure of the anc is because of apartheid?

[@solsouth]

@@jesserandelhoff4744 Read again "NOT".

[@jesserandelhoff4744]

@@solsouth huh?

[@kgosi4013]

This is really thought provoking. One other thing is that post apartheid, the Democratic SA state has really opened doors for apartheid beneficiaries to benefit from the African market as South Africa became an important member of the AU family. You look at SA companies such as Mtn, Shoprite, Multi-Choice, etc. Are some of the biggest companies on the continent from tapping into the African market using the SA brand which became the most admired on the continent after apartheid. The foreign policy & state involvement on global political dynamics have been more beneficial to them than anyone else in this country. Thank you Dr Mpofu, will be getting the book soon & I'm looking forward to it 💯

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

Pick and pay is currently British owned ...

[@siya_map1894]

I think I was one of the first few people to be a member of the Ayeye team.😊😎

[@_SMWX]

Ayeye! 😁🙌🏽

[@steynless]

I look forward to reading your suggestions and conclusions as to how to move forward. This premise can be applied to anywhere in the world that commits to freedom and democracy: I.e an inequality of outcome; the outcome of which has a lot to do with history. There are few people who would disagree that Apartheid exacerbated these outcomes in South Africa; however the dispute is in terms of what to do about it. A focus on actual inequalities (i.e helping poor people get better opportunities; investing in educating poor people) would be a much better way to start, rather than highlighting the divide along racial lines - especially in a country with numerous 'races' and languages where the lines blur. The later approach, in my view, will lead to social regression, mass emigration, economic decline, and at worst, war.

[@francoiswilliams]

Apartheid took SA forwards enormously, where were black people 100 years ago?

[@hasanx4637]

People's feelings cannot be legislated by laws and government. Just because you make separation of races illegal don't mean the races won't separate. some groups hate the sight of the other and will never integrate fully. That includes economics. Economics runs South Africa- not the government. The minorities who control the economy are making billions but blame the government for all the ills of society. Apartheid will never die in SA because it's not limited to SA. The world lives under a the same rules of engagement. A certain hierarchy based on a Eurocentric values and assumptions.

[@Kwanzaa711]

I can't wait to get my hands on this book 🙌

[@_SMWX]

Can’t wait for you to read it!

[@cizalamec4088]

My signed copy was delivered this morning. Quite a desilusioning and thought provoking perspective, indeed revealing for a non-SAn African! Thanks for the book and keep it up 👍🏽 (This is my first ever comment on KZbin 🤭)

[@_SMWX]

Yay! First comment. Thanks for buying the book and reading it! I hope you enjoy it. 👊🏽

[@KabiMeka]

I bought the book yesterday. The introduction alone blew my mind. Brilliant so far. Can't wait for your online event on Wednesday.

[@_SMWX]

Thanks so much. A lot of work went into the writing. Appreciate that! 😁🙌🏽✊🏽

[@thulanijamesmalinga9497]

Apartheid never died but is alive and natured even by the state itself. How is it that it has been almost 30yrs since the dawn of so called democracy, but we still don't have prisoners of apartheid perpetrators, who freely continue to dehumanize of our people verbally and physically?

[@_SMWX]

Exactly. I think you’re going to enjoy the book.

[@jesserandelhoff4744]

And what about all the teachers that taught racism in schools? Everyone forgets about them... Are they all suddenly not racist.... Anyway the anc is destroying "south africa" by themselves... We dont need big states they all kak

[@ramaanoramokgopa9100]

Flippen great video and I loved delusion and democracy! Saving up for your new work. I do want to ask - and I hope it's not at the risk of your platform. Can you identify certain groups which you feel are positively working towards changing the landscape of South Africa in any significant way for the better?

[@cliffordl8989]

How do you uproot apartheid when the forces behind the funding for the party's is the same..America was the founder of apartheid Britain Germany Portugal Same game same players results suffering of African people... Until the will of the people reign supreme not the will over IMF... Let's try to expropriate land and see how many sanctions.

[@steveg3135]

Can you please have this book on audible for international readers who can't get the hard copy from South Africa

[@_SMWX]

Coming soon.

[@vagotora]

The point we missed as Africa in general, when we were fighting for our freedom. was that, we fought against colonial rule instead of fighting for freedom. we won the fight against colonial rule but what was handed to us was power. something we never asked for and it has gone forward and corrupted whoever claims a position.

[@ernianisa1728]

Muhammad Qasim saw this dream on 31st of August 2022, he says: In this dream I am amongst some people who are listening to me and asking questions about my dreams. #MuhammadQasimDreams

[@nimrodjita851]

Just read chapter 1 Space. You've brought to my attention the gated communities we keep seeing but not giving much thought & the private security that protect it. As I live in Cape Town & work in Milnerton I immediately thought of Century City. Everything is policed in that space. Segregation is no longer policied by the state but it now left to private entities. Your argument makes sense to me in chapter 1.

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽🙌🏽

[@francoiswilliams]

Dr Sizwe seems to be educated to a level above his own intelligence 😆

[@tetyanaphikolomzi6886]

Very interesting a very rich topic

[@_SMWX]

Indeed.

[@nimrodjita851]

Finally bought the book. It's a timely read with the passing of De Klerk & the ANC being reduced to coliations in many manucipalities.

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽

[@davidscrooby2461]

SMWX, I have given the details to my daughters to purchase as my Christmas present. Space, Law, Wealth, Technology, Punishment. No justification is intended, but as a white boy born in 1960, you lived in 'white' suburbs, went to 'white' schools, only blacks you met were the domestic worker (kitchen girl), and gardener (garden boy), and then did two years military conscription, where they taught you that the Communists & Blacks were the enemy, then went to a 'white' university with a few permit Indian students. NUSAS educated a few students. But we were doomed to be racists.

[@avuyilexabadiya9522]

Ayeye!!

[@avuyilexabadiya9522]

I’m definitely getting my copy

[@_SMWX]

Ayeye!

[@amienfrankl7341]

One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Let us end the segregation and enjoy the sunshine, music, pap and wors.

[@TebogoMothiba]

Doc; made my purchase on the 19th of July. I'm eagerly waiting for delivery with excitement. When should I expect the book?

[@_SMWX]

Hi Tebogo! Thanks. If you check the website, you will see that signed orders are promised in the first week of August. Orders outside GP are being shipped tomorrow and will arrive 3-5 working days thereafter. Thanks for the order! You’ll receive it soon.

[@TebogoMothiba]

@@_SMWX Awesome! Congratulations once again

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

I dont think this gentleman is old enough to know what apartheid was by experience...

[@fikelelafix4217]

How Much is the Book Dr?

[@francoiswilliams]

Korrek, I grew up poor, and now I'm still poor...what gives?

[@marveloustonderayichishaya157]

Brilliant I didn't know now I know

[@_SMWX]

✊🏽

[@mfanelomdudo]

Very interesting synopsis Hlubi I can't wait to get my hands on it👨‍🏫

[@POPSTHEWIT]

"Democracy is not the opposite of apartheid as we have often been told. Apartheid can thrive even within a democratic setting. Only uprooting apartheid is the opposite of apartheid, not just the imposition of democracy. Giving people the vote, cannot fix what denying them the vote has broken." ~ Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh

[@_SMWX]

🙌🏽

[@nischolanpillay9024]

As an academic myself, this book has opened up my mind to the metastatic rot of apartheid. I am only in the first chapter and thoroughly enjoying it!

[@_SMWX]

Lovely way to put it! Thanks. Enjoy it.

[@marianazdara4001]

Dearest Sir I am what you call white privilege. I am listening to many of your videos and I love your channel since one does not always get another prospective in the main stream media. And now it cames😂 however I wish you would also put what is happening in South Africa and your views and solutions in the bigger context of what is happening in the rest of the world or in other democratic counties. Our lives on this planet becames more and more interconnected and your children would propably not know a South Africa but rather some sort of world order. We as Africans, "yes I am an African even if I have a light skin I was born and bred in Africa I know nothing else." need to know what to negotiate in this new world.

[@468sed3]

As part of your audience, I find the background music quite distracting. Please remove it.

[@Ratherbe_Mpsy]

Bro where are the hashtags

[@keithtait7049]

Fantastic thoughts and discussion! Thank you for your work.

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽

[@cody_dbn]

Will the hard copy of your book be made available for overseas purchase?

[@_SMWX]

I am working on it. For now, it’s also available on Kindle.

[@cody_dbn]

@@_SMWX Thank you

[@tthex6484]

Great stuff Sizwe. I was the first one from Zimbabwe to subscribe to the channel, des that count???? kkk

[@mattrowe7486]

To me it just sounds like you are not even currently in south africa if you are saying we are currently experiencing an apartheid 😂 thought this was a click bait troll but sure🤣

[@lm8198-b5m]

But Sizwe, when is the audiobook coming?

[@_SMWX]

October. 😁

[@SiyaMedia]

Mayize indeed

[@simstander5471]

That’s what I want to know. I am happy to spend extra for the audiobook

[@vuyisileskarfu9786]

Hi Sizwe, great content as usual. May you please edit your description, you wrote: "Man arguments" rather than "Main arguments". Keep it up

[@_SMWX]

Thanks, good spotting!

[@joshuaojo-aromokudu4176]

Is there an audiobook out? We need your book read by that calming tone 👏🏾

[@_SMWX]

Coming in October! 😁

[@africamymotherland5962]

This one will surely hit my bookshelf because I know inomrhabulo. Great work Doc👌

[@_SMWX]

Thank you! I look forward to your thoughts.

[@bonolomakgatadeluent3150]

Dr Sizwe your wisdom is unmatched. I look up to you bro!

[@_SMWX]

Thanks bro!

[@sanelekhayelihlegumede3759]

A very thorny subject, can't wait to read it, and get a fresh perspective.

[@_SMWX]

🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@orgajavengwa]

Thought provoking tittle. I like that.

[@_SMWX]

Thanks!

[@solsouth]

What is a tittle?

[@sorrinobodi6093]

LET'S TALK & CALL ON WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION ☠️

[@solsouth]

Work hard or join the ANC to get wealthy.

[@makhuphukamnguni9782]

I knew this guy through Aldrin in SAFM

[@bongolwethunota7125]

I have been trying to get the audio version of the book. Is it available, if so where?

[@terrencemasuku8909]

Your work us so meaningful and purposeful. Thank you Sizwe 🙏

[@_SMWX]

Thanks, Terrence. 🙏🏽

[@tashansofwa2426]

I think in our discourse we need to begin to acknowledge that class is becoming a much bigger issue than it was 24 years ago. And when we label classism wrongly as racism because black people are still mostly poor I think we are failing to understand what’s actually going on. I live in a fancy estate and the people living in mansions driving range rovers are black people, and with the black middle class exceeding the number of white people in the country the conversation is more about classism than it is about racism. I grew up middle class born in a post apartheid South Africa and I’m black and have never felt like I didn’t belong in Sandton or had to dress extremely well so as to not be targeted in rich spaces, I never doubted that I belonged in those spaces because I existed in those spaces with many many black people and that’s why again this is about class and the privileges afforded to you if you are rich in South Africa.

[@_SMWX]

Class matters. But race matter, too. I don’t think one excludes the salience of the other. They combine in different ways. But more of my thoughts on this in the book. Black middle class complicity in the new apartheid is one of its interesting features.

[@tlotlophele2031]

Congratulations on the Book Sizwe, getting myself a copy

[@_SMWX]

Thanks so much! 😁🙌🏽

[@davidscrooby2461]

This is a Covid book. Were you vaccinated?

[@vusumuzimashinini2468]

"Giving people the vote cannot fix what denying them the vote has broken". Truth revealed right there; no need to go further brother! Definitely getting my copy tommorow lunch time for the coming long weekend!

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@wallacecharlesthesonofgeor8074]

I love the argument, I've often said to my friends democracy in RSA only made Apartheid legal,but I'm sure it's well debated in the book,can't wait to get a copy,congratulations

[@MrSoso7676]

Bought my copy today, can not wait to get stuck into this one!

[@_SMWX]

🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@ah1rooivalk]

The problem is, and I know people dont want to listen to this. Socialist Policies Entrench Poverty and Inequality further. The ANC basically just expanded the NP's Patronage system with more race laws, and the whites protect themselves from being excluded by starting their own businesses. If you are interested in solving poverty problems in South Africa, I can put you in touch with people with some interesting ideas on how to do that. If you are interested in fixing inequality. That is impossible. Humans have tried doing that many times in the past, and it have always ended with a massive body count.

[@argentnexus7129]

It is "impossible" to fix inequalities only because of the disingenuity and dishonesty that encompasses the so-called solutions. Starting on an inaccurate and dishonest premise of this inequality, as has been the case, will NEVER lead to a solution. Embracing TRUTH while, not resolving inherent inequalities, will give more purpose and strength to resolving the inequality of FAIR opportunity iro of self-determination. However, let me point out that RACE is not a criterion for the inequalities that you are referring to.

[@ah1rooivalk]

@@argentnexus7129 Ok... Im going to discuss this in good faith with you. And treat you with total respect. So there is no missunderstanding. Do you agree or disagree with the following statement. Is it possible for you to be equal to your self in a decade?

[@argentnexus7129]

@@ah1rooivalk In the same spirit of being respectful, your question is nonsensical. In a mathematical context 1 is ALWAYS equal to 1 as is 2 equal to 2 and a specific apple equal to that same specific apple. So in that context I am equal to myself ALWAYS ( taking into account that there is no external force to DIMINISH who I am). A second or a decade is of no consequence.

[@ah1rooivalk]

@@argentnexus7129 But you know this is not true. You can not be equal to yourself in 10 years. In 10 years you will have more experience. In 10 years you will also be older which leads to the decay of your power of youth. The point I am trying to make here. Is that no two people not even the same person from two different days will never be equal to each other.

[@argentnexus7129]

@@ah1rooivalk Again, respectfully you are wrong. You are trying to prove a point with an illogical and incorrect premise. In 10 years time the "me" you refer to, will as you state be a different "me" both ADDED to with regard to wisdom and experience and SUBTRACTED from insofar as to the decay of the power of youth. The fundamental rule of math is that what you do on one side of an equation needs to be done exactly on the other side for equality to be maintained. Therefore your comparison of "me" to "me" should be the comparison of "me" in 10 years time with the "me" in 10 years time not with the "me" of today. You are already on the wrong footing by comparing two identities from DIFFERENT times when you should be comparing those identities from the very SAME timeline. Time is not irrelevant in the calculation of equality.

[@ramasodimalete2699]

Thanks Mr Mpofu-Walsh now I really must read this book.

[@_SMWX]

I hope you enjoy it!

[@zuzemoyo7696]

Can the book be accessed on Amazon UK??

[@_SMWX]

Yeah but only the Kindle version.

[@nellynyoka8238]

We love you Sizwe for reminding us what is happening in this country❤

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽

[@NkosiMlambo]

I guess if we are talking about a new apartheid which has taken different forms, we have to also define what the word means in the new context, right?

[@_SMWX]

Yep. Which is exactly what I do in the book.

[@NkosiMlambo]

@@_SMWX Cool, thanks. I can't wait to read it then.

[@inovakovsky]

Thank you. I think it is important for people to realize that the economics issues facing the majority of South African barely improved after Apartheid. This is why I think it is important for Apartheid opponents to also be anti-capitalistic, imo, since the ANC has been soc dem at best and neoliberal at worst. I will spread the word on South Africa themed social media. Oh, hey, I remember your video on why South Africa gave up its nuclear weapons with Jo-Ansie van Wyk.

[@Ngasii]

0:03: The end of the video in the first 3 seconds🔥

[@_SMWX]

😁

[@RomanoPlescia]

The failure of the ANC over the 27 years is as much to blame for the "new apartheid" as the NP was. If the ANC wasn't as corrupt as it is and presided of the complete failure of the state it could have lifted millions of people out of poverty and leveled the playing field by now. It presided over the privatisation of apartheid, it even enabled it.

[@_SMWX]

Read the book. You will see that it is far from an exoneration of the ANC.

[@RomanoPlescia]

@@_SMWX I'm looking forward to reading it

[@hasanx4637]

@@RomanoPlescia blaming the ANC is a convenient divide and conquer trick. It's the white minority dominated economy that prevented SA from growing like it should. Maybe if the nation had went the socialist route then you might have a point. Maybe if they controlled the resources then IF the economy was in the same shape it is now. No way can a democratic elected government in a capitalistic system lift "millions" out of poverty. The main issue with SA is a white minority still controls the economy. Not the government. As long as that remains the case South Africa will never grow. Why would the maker of this video want to delete comments expressing their point of view while allow white supremacist comments to stay? very shady.

[@wisanimaluleke8441]

Looking forward nd thank you for the intro. The booking is inviting

[@gideonmosia]

Ayeye congrats Dr. We Sizwe

[@_SMWX]

Ayeye 🙌🏽

[@ayandasakhilezulu8704]

This fellow, Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is very intelligent. I regard him as one of the greatest thinkers of our time amongst the youth. Brilliant and very articulate. Its a pity I only came across him this year. But I'm definitely going to buy his latest book. I'm also going to buy the one he released in 2017(Democracy And Delusion) Looking forward to reading those books. I know that I will enjoy them. Dr. Mpofu, much respect for you my brother. It's very rare to come across people who think like you in today's South Africa. I just pray that I will meet you someday and that we can have a conversation. I know I will learn a lot.

[@_SMWX]

Thanks Ayanda. I appreciate it. Hope we will meet so I can sign your books! 🙌🏽👊🏽

[@mandisindzwanana9773]

Why is he Walsh and his father is just Mpofu?

[@garethx1410]

Walsh must be his Mum's surname

[@mandisindzwanana9773]

His mom is not walsh either..

[@ayandaquku900]

Unalo nexesha LOPENDULA uDOTI,

[@mandisindzwanana9773]

Where is uDoti in what i'm saying?

[@solsouth]

Just being pretentious.

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Yep, it was privatized.

[@sinenkosimd]

@SizweMpofu-Walsh get it onto audible bro.

[@_SMWX]

October!

[@sinenkosimd]

@@_SMWX excellent. I will pre-order as soon as it's up. Just pre-ordered "The Land is Ours" yesterday. Patiently waiting...

[@Steve-by4uf]

Gotta keep the grift alive

[@Thesustainableleaders]

Your generation is waking up too late post the deal being done, 🤷🏾‍♂️