SJ ForesterXT goes up Old Dale Road (Joshua Tree, CA) in search of a place to camp.

[@4XPEDITION]

Nice video Jon! My suggestion if you dont already have (maybe you have already thought of these things): get a few of these items. 1.) skid plates so you don't have to worry quite as much about rocks. 2.) a set of MaxTrax for getting stuck in sand and also can be used to span across deeper narrow ruts. They will support your forester. 3.) a Cusco tow hook to the front of your rig so that you can get winched out in the event you get stuck and can't get out yourself. 4.) A folding shovel. 5.) of course, a set of all-terrain tires would help for traction and for side wall protection. You don't have to get the tires I have to get a set that will fit in your wheel well. You can of course throw a full sized tire on the roof in a yakima rack cage. 6.) gas can and big water can.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

4XPEDITION thanks! I actually had all those items except the traction boards. I have since purchased a set of X bull traction boards. I have personally tested them and they are strong and flexible enough to bridge and ramp any Subaru. Thanks for the info! It’s a great check list.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Mctig Mctiggy the man behind 4xpedition also owns a Jeep rubicon, so he’s ready for the rough stuff. The good thing about a Subaru is they get over 25 mpg on the highways while cruising at 80.. The new JL looks promising with its 2.0 turbo mild hybrid, but I probably couldn’t afford it right now. As far as a truck, even with a Tacoma, I’m just not into getting 16 mpg while cruising at normal SoCal speed of 80mph. That’s what I got in the FJ cruiser I would borrow from my brother back in the day. The only way to get the 23 highway mpg was to cruise at 55mph. Being able to go twice as far on a gallon of gas means I get out there more. Right now with gas between $3-3.50 Traveling 330 miles will cost me less than $100. With a truck you’re looking at $175-$250.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Mctig Mctiggy ... but, I totally get what you’re saying 🤣. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad my Subaru survived woooooooo!

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Always impressive watching these smaller rigs hit the trails! 🏜️🤘🏼👏👏👏👏

[@bobbybaker8868]

Nice video and I'm glad you made it safely off the trail. I've done Old Dale many times and I can say I don't think it's a good idea for cars like yours to take this road. While you may make it through just fine, if your car does get disabled on Old Dale Road, it may be a day or two before someone finds you (depending on the season). Also, if someone makes the mistake of turning on to Brooklyn Mine Rd, they would be in real trouble. Its much less traveled and the boulders appear fast with little turn-around time. To anyone wanting to take a stock low-clearance vehicle like this on Old Dale Rd, please don't go by yourself and let someone know when to expect you back at camp. The NPS Rangers do not patrol this area unless they are called out and with no cell service, its best to have a "point-person" back at home who can call if you don't check-in at the predetermined time. Finally, if you don't have a high clearance vehicle, do not take this road in the Summer. Heat Stroke is not a fun death. To finalize, with these types of cars you need to take extra precautions or you may be in for a rough time.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

bobby baker thanks for the concern! I learned a lot from this trip. In the almost 3 years since, I no longer go out alone and I have since switched to another vehicle (The transmission actually went out in the Subaru at 60k miles). I still have a soft roader, but it’s a bit more capable. I actually did this trail again for my 3rd time less than a month ago. Here’s the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIeYomhnqqadd5o

[@joostinkong]

So I found this video today after discovering this road today in Joshua Tree. I brought my totally stock 2020 Forester Sport to Old Dale Road. Boy was that a mistake. I did turn around at the bottom of the hill, the hill you were going up in the beginning. I've learned a few things already from finding this video. Never go alone. Be prepared to be stranded for a few hours or even days. Upgrade your vehicle to tackle this hill. In the three hours I was out there, I saw only 2 vehicles.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Ju Ko I have two other video’s about this trail

[@joostinkong]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I just watched your latest one as well, with your new Passport. Honestly, I was impressed with the stock Forester in the dirt portion. It was rally like. Then the sand came, and I felt the stock tires sinking. I deflated to 30psi and I'm assuming it helped. But once I saw the beginning of that hill, I said hell no, and turned around. I thought I was almost to the end too. It looks like there is more rough terrain after that hill.

[@mickjlv5836]

Lol Jon! Stumbled on to this gem of a vid doing trail recon for Old Dale next weekend. Maaaaaaannn the Subie! Your tank now no worries on here.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Haha! See how much slimmer I was back in 2017? Haha! Yeah, this trail is cake in the Honda.

[@barkerbo]

That first mine that you stopped at after the hill is the Sunset Mine. My dad and friends used to have a claim on that mine. There was a cabin down on the flat area, and a large wooden structure over the mine shaft. They were attempting to get it operating, but people kept breaking into that concrete bunker (the hoist house - it was in a lot better shape back then) and stealing the equipment. They let the claim go around 1976. The next mine around the corner was operated by a man named Carl Schaple, and he was still pulling gold out when we let our claim go.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Brett Barker thank you for you comment, story and info! That’s so fascinating. I’m truly interested so I googled the sunset mine and found your comment on the below website. That’s very unfortunate that it kept getting burglarized and damaged. Your story about how it was suspected that another mining company set fire to a cabin, is sad to hear. Thank you for sharing, I’ve been back here one other time, but I plan to go back at some point. goldexplorers.com/sunset-mine/

[@barkerbo]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring There are more stories...lol. They also had claim to the Rose of Peru mine. I really enjoyed going back and seeing the place, and would like to make another trip myself. It makes for a pretty good campsite. One of my Dad's closest friends, Bill Horbachevsky (Ski for short), kept wanting to go back and take back the claim...guns a blazin' if necessary. Drunkin' Russian guy that was in WWII. Fun story about one of the other partners getting his hands on some leftovers from a show called "The Rat Patrol". Good times.

[@luedog8385]

cool finally someone who doesn't have a 50,000 dollar worth of mods on a fancy jeep. GET HER DONE 😎✌

[@MattsGarageMiscDIY]

Great video, love to see Suburu’s out exploring.

[@broinsocali]

nice job getting up that hill with a stock suv. just needed better tires.

[@AG-rk5hj]

Just goes to show you how capable these little subarus are. Would love to take my Gx460 there someday👍..great video SUBBED

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Absolutely Armando! Thanks for the support! The GX460 must be one hell of an offroader, I’m jealous!

[@jeffflix]

I just installed a 2" ADF lift kit on my 2002 Forester L - 10" clearance at the nose, 11" at the rear diff. They're not hard to install, you'll just need a good solid breaker bar for those suspension bolts...

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Thanks for the info Jeffflix! I have a pretty meaty breaker bar. But I'm not going to lie, I'm going to just pay a well known lift installer to install this lift. The guy is a stud, he can do it in 2 hours. :P Congratz on your lift! I'm really looking forward to mine.

[@JonathanABarbata]

Would be a bit of a pain in the A with a manual haha I’m heading there on Friday. Great video man. You for sure one up all of mine 👍🏼👌🏼

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Thank you for the kind words! They, i think alot of the MtnRoo crew will be out in Johnson Valley this weekend. You should probably stop by.

[@glennredwine289]

More of a pain with a manual, Panda? NOT HARDLY!! The manual gives you better control of the vehicle. we had the best 4x4 a '73 K5 Blazer manual 4spd granny gear, with 3.73 gears & 350, like a tank!

[@subazealand9158]

Awesome vid, you got your lesson I guess. By the way... seems like with some obstacles you were afraid to give more gas when your wheels spin. You should keep your foot there, that's the only way X-Mode or VDC (in case X-Mode is off) will work.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Baltazar Campos Nieto thanks! Yes I definitely got my lesson, and I refuse to go back until I lift my Forester 😃. I know what you mean about holding your foot down, I tried that many times going up this trail but I cut those parts out of the video. I would just spin my wheels, throw rocks everywhere with no progress. I was told that I need to wiggle the steering wheel left and right to help “scan for grip”. Also, there was one time I purposely stopped on the middle of a steep rutted hill Anza Borrego and then flogged the gas pedal. My tires spun violently as I slowly went up the steep hill. Once I got to the top, my “transmission overheated light” came on. That was the only time I’ve ever seen that light and was pretty freaked out. I was impressed that my Forester passed the ridiculous test I put it through, but that hill was meant to be climbed with momentum going in. So, you are probably right 😃. My style driving style probably changed after my traumatic CVT experience.

[@codys_crap_cars]

Honestly man props to you and the car... coming from an off road family with experience in all disciplines of motorised off road recreation you should be damn proud of that forester.... I'm getting ready to lift one of my sg6's (ones low and handles, one for off road fun right?) Any way I'm seriously impressed with this.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Thank you Cody! That means a lot to me. In this video I obviously lacked experience, but the girlfriend sure stepped up to spot for me! She’s so great!

[@nileshsingh1146]

Beautiful place

[@edgarandreasyan521]

Gonna head up there this weekend

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Have a good trip. The trail has become much worse, but your Taco Beast will be fine

[@pingpongballz5998]

I don't think I'll be comfortable taking my crosstrek to that trail. Geez you beat that forester up!

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Christopher Sanchez this is a medium difficulty Jeep trail. It was rated a level 5 out of 10 when I did it here. This should be very doable with a lift. If you take a stock height Subaru, you’ll need very careful spotting and I’d recommend skid plates for insurance. This was my girlfriends first time trying to spot, and I scraped my skid plates twice. I made a mistake and blew a tire. With the beating I put the Subaru through, surprisingly, it did not need an alignment. We are heading up here this Saturday! Join us!

[@pingpongballz5998]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I swear you're about the 3rd MTN Roo guy that invited me lol. I love the community. I take it easy on my Trek since it ain't paid off yet. Also I don't want any suspension problems.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Christopher Sanchez I don’t blame ya! I’m pretty cautious. Watch the Epic Zion Trip video where we drive to the torquerville falls. My buddy Subaruski gives his Outback a proper beating. The stuff in this video is tame compared to that. I swear. Never needed an alignment (which is the sign one really beat on their suspension).

[@pingpongballz5998]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring that's good to hear. I know Subarus are not jeeps or a truck so I really don't know if it can really take a beating in the long run lol

[@AWDfreak]

@@pingpongballz5998 I'm arguably the harshest Subaru XV Crosstrek driver there is, I never have had my alignment go bad due to off-roading or the mild jumps I've done. Modern crossover vehicles aren't trucks, but they are more tough than you believe.

[@martee4]

What settings did you have X-Mode and VDC? Also, were you in D or M? I noticed you said it makes a difference and was wondering if this is an example. Just got a 2018 XT myself and I plan on doing some offroading once I lift it and get some better tires!

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Dion Martinez , because the climb up this road was pretty darn technical, I drove up it using Xmode. Traction control needs to be turned off so power is not cut when tires slip. With Xmode engaged you are not able to shift or change SI-drive settings. I’m not totally sure what happens if you hit the shifter to “M”. The biggest advantage that Xmode will give you Here is “BACKWARDS HILL DECENT CONTOL”. This means that if you let off the gas while trying to climb something, you won’t roll backwards as fast.

[@martee4]

Thanks for the info! IOn your next run, do you think you can mess around manual mode to see if it helps? Once I get my XT set up, maybe we can meet up. I live in Orange County!

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Dion Martinez I was actually planning to, but I missed out on our meetup in Hungry Valley before Subiefest. I wanted to compare the previous model autotrans Forester 2.5 vs. a 2014-2018 CVT trans Forester. I also planned to show off “Send it mode” in the FXT. Need traction control off, Manual mode, Sport #, first gear ratio and the hand brake.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Dion Martinez there’s going to be a trip on Nov. 2-4 Out near the Calico ghost town.

[@martee4]

Nice! You think my stock FXT will be fine?

[@benushka15]

Man, this was a really fun video to watch. Thank you for posting it! I have an outback and am headed down there next week. I was hoping to do this trail!!! Did you air down your tires at all before hitting the trail? I luckily have a 2" ADF lift and some big BF Goodrich KO2 tires to help me out

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Ben, this was a fun trail! I'm sure you'll enjoy it. At the start of the trail the road is sandy and corrugated, so I aired down to 22psi to smooth out the ride and resist getting stuck in the sand. When I reached the rocky sections, I never aired back up. I actually forgot to. With your extra ground clearance and the very tough BFG KO2's, you should do great. I entered the trail from the south (Interstate 10). I took Pinto Basin Road to Old Dale road all the way north until I hit highway 62. We camped out at 33°59'51.3"N 115°43'00.9"W. That area has so many different roads and old mining settlements. If it's windy, and you plan on camping out there, those coordinates were perfectly tucked away from the winds. Have fun out there, let me know how it goes or share your own video. Be safe!

[@benushka15]

Good to know man! Thank you for the tips - I really appreciate that. I am a little apprehensive as I don't have a way to air my tires back up currently AND I will be solo on the drive. So I have been debating if I should just come back to it when I have a spotting partner.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

I would definitely recommend a spotter, skid plates, full sized spare, all basic recover gear, a radio, and food and gear in case you find yourself in a bad scenario. If you need a tire inflator, I would recommend the Viair 85P for a reliable inflator at a good price point (around $45). If you need a trail partner the MtnRoo brotherhood Facebook group should have someone interested in doing this trail with you. I would go again, but not until I get my forester lifted :P I scraped my Primitive skid plates 13:20 pretty good. It was minor, but It did press my mid armor plate into my exhaust manifold causing a loud vibrating sound. facebook.com/groups/MtnRoo/

[@benushka15]

JonDeeZee wow good to know man. I really appreciate all your advice. I'll check out the Facebook page to see if anyone is around to do it with me. It would be my first real off-road experience. Unfortunately though I don't have a spare and that's keeping me pretty reserved

[@dannyarias562]

Hey awesome vidoe. I have a 18 XT do you think i can put on 235/65R17 on my stock height XT without and rubbing ure issues?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Hiya Danny Arias, you would rub at full turn lock, and depending on the tire, would rub on suspension compression. I released the new video. Shows how close I get to smashing my front bumper.

[@dannyarias562]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring i would run the same tires that you have the geolanders. Would u suggest then at 235 60 17? Or stick too what your currently have?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Danny Arias I would always go taller over wider if you had the choice. Taller tires give you more of a foot print when aired down, also, look more badass. And, also gives you better fuel economy when aired up. But as far as capability, I’m not sure what you should go with. You might be better off with the KO2’s. There aren’t too many choices for a 17 inch tire (although much better than choices with a 18 inch tire). The reason I went with the GO15’s is for ice performance, low road noise, light weight 8-9 lbs less than the KO2’s. The BFG’s look much more aggressive and I’d bet they’d be grippier for trail riding. Because that extra weight of the tires will add to your rotational mass, acceleration and wheel horsepower will be affected. People say LT tires are overkill on Subaru’s and I’ve been pretty good so far with my P-rated Yoko G015’s.

[@dannyarias562]

What offset do you have with your wheels? Also what would you recommend for offset. How much or little?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Danny Arias I’m running a stock Subaru wheel. It’s actually a wheel from a 2012 to 2015 BRZ/FRS. The Oem offset is -48. The offset you want all depends on you. There’s really no evidence that offset will cause damage to your hubs, I think Subaru’s are just too light of a vehicle for that. Any 5x100 lug wheel should be fine. But! For more info! Here’s the Subaru Forester.org link to wheel and tires: www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f72/sj-fxt-wheel-tire-fitment-information-175057/#/topics/175057?page=2

[@KGX470]

Great job Jon! You handled it like a champ. No shame at all. You had balls to attempt it and travel the unknown. You’re making me want to get one now too. I’m from LBC too! LOL

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Thanks Ken! LOOOONG BEEACCCCHHHH! Yeah, that trail was quite the challenge, especially since I didn't have any experience with rocks like that. Lessons learned and I was so glad I didn't have any trail damage besides a few scrapes on the skid plates. That was a great trip :P

[@datsun87jt]

Cool video Jon. Do you stay in socal? If so I'd like to join you I have a SF.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Yes I do! So there’s a little get together this Saturday for Pilot truck trail. On June 8,9 there will be a camping event in big bear. instagram.com/p/Buo_G_5gUdb/?igshid=1rxhnr4vavclb

[@datsun87jt]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring Nice! What time on Saturday?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Jon Torres 9:00am. Are you able to open up Instagram? Here are the details: instagram.com/p/Bxnfd23Jn1p/?igshid=oi31xg5w89bj I won’t be able to make this one, but a handful of guys/gals will be attending. I will be at our Big Bear Campout though.

[@datsun87jt]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I don't have Instagram but I was able to open it. I will be able to make it. Is there a person of contact? Also I will try to make big bear too.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Jon Torres the contact person is Travis but we all communicate on Instagram. (You can message each other). I’m going to let him know that you’re going to try to make it. I’ll also try to get a radio comms channel from them. Do you have a uhf radio or a HAM radio?

[@SaxonTerror]

Was it your goal to go the most difficult routes ?

[@daveybernard1056]

I would have aired down a little, and had All Terrain tires.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Davey Bernard this was a long time ago, but I believe I aired down to 25 psi. Also, I was rocking the Yokohama G015’s, which is a light trail tire. Check out my latest adventure where I drive up over 10k feet to the coyote flats: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJeupaykpqyHsLM

[@50nollieman]

did you scrape at all anywhere?

[@dhoyt902]

Damn bro you probably should have changed your CVT fluid after this lol.

[@wandante]

What tire did you have on the car in this video?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Yokohama G015 225/65R17

[@edgarandreasyan521]

Lets go

[@ninorth]

Your "campsite" is right on top of the left overs from processing gold. I am sure there is Mercury and cyanide in it. You never touch the pink dirt by mines.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Uh oh! Haha! I'll take that advice moving forward. Shouldn't the Bureau of Land Management block off dangerous areas?

[@ninorth]

Just research the areas you're going to be in. BLM doesn't have that kind of money.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

I did. There's nothing posted about dangers of cyanide and mercury. I tried google searching and nothing posted as a mercury/cyanide danger pops up.

[@ninorth]

Just Google "old mine dangers".

[@nileshsingh1146]

Is your Forester raised or original height?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Nilesh Singh in this video my Forester is original height. Only modifications are slightly taller tires, and skid plates. Stay tuned to my Channel, I just received my 2” front and 2.5 rear lift kit from Anderson Design. It Should make this trail ride a bit wasier

[@nileshsingh1146]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring still did well

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Nilesh Singh yes indeed!

[@nileshsingh1146]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring I subscribed to your channel , I was just wanting to know if it's best to turn vdc off while using x mode in really muddy or tricky Sand driving , I thought I should do some homework first .

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Nilesh Singh so, you can’t completely turn off VDC, it’s only traction control that’s turned off. It’s confusing because when you press the “Trac Ctrl” button, the center upper screen on a Subaru will say “VDC OFF”. This isn’t really the case. To prove that, you’ll notice your Subaru’s center screen will still say “VDC ACTIVATED” whenever you lose traction. Many Subaru KZbinrs get this wrong. Now, to answer your question, YES!!! you absolutely must have Traction Control “OFF” when ever you are in a situation where you lose traction but still “NEED power sent to the wheels”. Sand, mud, deep snow, and icy hill climbs will require traction control to be turned OFF.

[@simplistek]

Do you have a lift on your FXT?

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Elgene Crescini I don’t. The only thing I have done is down sized my rims from 18” to 17” and got slightly taller tires that are .75” taller. Having a 2 inch lift, really would have helped here, and It will be the next thing I put on my Subie.

[@simplistek]

JonDeeZee i see. I have the same, 225/65/17 yoko geolandar at-s on my xt. No lift. I went down black eagle rd and i ended up having to turn around because i was fully loaded with 4 people/gear and no one else around. I just didn't want to risk not being able to make it back. The ADF 2" lift is next on my list too.

[@toastopia1]

Time to trade for 2019 sport with dual mode Xmode and a lift kit and you won't have any issues

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

toastopia1 actually the 2019 has downgraded offroad angles. The 2008-2013 was Better than mine, and the SG was better than that, and I guess the 1st gen is better than all. I just installed a 2 inch lift on this 2015 Forester XT with the turbo. Too bad the 2019 no longer carries the turbo 😭. I just dropped a new video, check it out.

[@juanticimo]

Wouldnt a Jeep make this trivial? Cool video tho

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

A stock jeep or stock Tacoma would easily get through this trail, it's only rated as a level 5 jeep trail. A Subaru is no Jeep tho, a stock Subaru should not try to tackle anything beyond a level 4. Thank god for my skid plates, they mad contact, but I was protected.

[@alhajri851]

Used X-mode

[@KraziAzn2]

Brave and stupid! Never travel alone with no recovery rig unless you know the road's condition.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

KraziAzn2 I won’t dispute what you said. Was I stupid? Sure, what I did can be translated into stupidity, I can accept that. But I was prepared with a full size spare and recovery gear. I also looked up the trail before time. I’m glad all I got was a flat tire and a few scrapes on the skid plates, no body damage and no need for a tire alignment, otherwise I would have really felt like a dumbass. Stay Krazy! 🤙🏽

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Actually, NM, i take that back :P I actually remember putting alot of thought into this rocky offroad excursion. It was anything but stupid (except where I popped my tire, I got lazy, I was mentally drained. I think it's more important that you drive your vehicle careful than having a "recovery rig". Have enough sense to know your vehicles capabilities and don't be afraid to turn around when things just aren't possible, in other words, don't be dumb.

[@glennredwine289]

One thing I have found out though there are so many people living in SoCal that it seems like you have only wait 45 min-2 hrs and somebody will be along with a 4x4 vehicle. I was out trail riding along the road that parallels Colorado aqueduct just north of I-10 in my 95 Dakota 4x2 and the road started to drop down in sand and I started getting worried that I couldn't turn make it back up if the road was blocked so I turned around and started heading back up and you guessed it, got stuck. dug it out for about 45 minutes when some guys in a Jeep came along and pulled me out. But. perhaps I was lucky .Don't try this in a less densely populated state like Montana, Nevada or Utah.

[@melmelcorvette]

Nice video but didn’t realize these suvs were so bad with transferring power. Overhyped for sure.

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Well Mel, I’m glad I was able to show you the truth. I personally classify these vehicles as AWD passenger vehicles. They’re not a 4 runner, Jeep, 4x4 truck. It’s literally a car going up, in this case, a level 5 Jeep trail. They’re not marketed for this. Sounds like underhype to me 😉.

[@melmelcorvette]

JonDZ Adventuring thanks for the response but I disagree ohh well it’s honestly whatever as long as your having fun.

[@blackdiamondrob]

theres a guy that had a similar vehicle as you, one day had the worst experience offroading of his life which traumatized his kids.. after that day he bought a jeep and never looked back..those little cars arent meant for all that, perhaps a jeep is better for you

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

Cool story bro 🤣

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

mofo_rob with all joking aside. My coworkers best friend was driving her Jeep on Pacific Coast Highway. Someone cut in front of her and she tried swerving out of the way. Her Jeep rolled a few times, killing her. My coworker wears a bracelet with her best friends picture on her wrist. It’s a really sad story. With all that said. Hope you stay safe if you’re driving a Jeep. By the way, I’ve moved onto a 2019 Honda Passport. It has 32’s a, 11.5 inches of minimum ground clearance, a 20:1 crawl ratio, rear LSD/part time E-locker. About a half foot wider wheel base compared to a Jeep Wrangler sport. It’s more capable than the Subaru and still safe on the roads. Really freakin quick too!

[@blackdiamondrob]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring sorry about your friend... i wasnt trying to poke fun at your little car. i was just saying jeeps are crazy capable even in stock form. i didnt know how crazy capable they were till i got one myself. happy travels!

[@JonDZ_Adventuring]

She was my coworkers friend, I never met her. It must be tough on my coworker. I also remember alcohol was involved, so she’s really adamant about no one driving under the influence or buzzed. I take no offense about the little Forester. That was traded in for a 2019 Honda Passport. I’m familiar of the capabilities of a Jeep Wrangler. If you’re familiar with the capabilities of a Subaru, this 2019 Passport falls somewhere in between. It actually has the same crawl ratio as a Jeep renegade and Compass Trailhawk (same transmission/axle ratio), but I get a real mechanical LSD. I live near Los Angeles and I have to drive 60 miles to get to the nearest place I can hit dirt. I find myself getting out very often, about 2-4 times a month! I think getting decent MPG’s is the reason I get out so much.

[@blackdiamondrob]

@@JonDZ_Adventuring i would say the jeep is as safe as any other suv out there. true if you lift one and add bigger tires like mine the center of gravity is higher and then i could see a safety factor. i have had no close calls. i watched your other video, i now see your in a group. thats cool! the vid i commented on it just looked like you and your girl and had no clue you guys were in a special group. thats why i made the comment about jeeps being more capable. i live semi close by to open areas compared to the Los Angeles area. there are some cool places around here. hit me up if your out toward the big bear area..your right offroading is a dam addiction brother!!!

[@805gregg]

Wrong car, get a Jeep if you want to do trails like that

[@personalfunfest]

naw.. we did this trail in a stock lexus gx460... only thing I recommend is a thicker than stock front differential skid plate

[@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531]

Just give it a small lift and better tires and it's all good! Not everyone needs overpriced vehicles.... The majority of the planet drive roads like this in small compact cars!🤘🏼

[@edgarandreasyan521]

You don’t need a Jeep for this road 😂 but that’s definitely the Jeep thing to say.

[@AmboyChamblis]

I see no problem, three Subaru's are very capable!