Scale Armor, Part 2 - Time to Shoot It!

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Skallagrim

Skallagrim

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@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken
@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken 6 жыл бұрын
5:49 is the most Gentlemanly shooting form I've seen in a while.
@hanfpeter2822
@hanfpeter2822 4 жыл бұрын
Try issf shooting. A whole Bunch of gentlemen
@TheSlammurai
@TheSlammurai 3 жыл бұрын
Pirate form right there.
@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer
@Enrico_Palazzo_opera_singer 6 жыл бұрын
After the 9mm I was hoping you'd advance to a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range...and after that, perhaps testing the armor's protective abilites against a tactical nuclear strike
@bigroxxor420
@bigroxxor420 4 жыл бұрын
sorry pal, just what you see
@orvoloco8261
@orvoloco8261 2 жыл бұрын
I love your singing.
@arthurchadwell9267
@arthurchadwell9267 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigroxxor420 -- I'm going home early! :-)
@themainbicycle4102
@themainbicycle4102 2 жыл бұрын
I understood that reference, have a like!
@klopapierritter8537
@klopapierritter8537 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@noticemesenpai69
@noticemesenpai69 4 жыл бұрын
“I don’t have power over the weather quite yet, I’m working on it.” Well it’s been 2 years, how much progress have you made?
@drops2cents260
@drops2cents260 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I heard he already can make it rain _extremly_ localized after having a few pints...
@connormcgehee9349
@connormcgehee9349 4 жыл бұрын
We've made thunder atleast
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 4 жыл бұрын
One word: "arrow storm"
@skylerslack12
@skylerslack12 4 жыл бұрын
Jsut gotta shoot a pommel tipped bolt into the sky
@heze20
@heze20 2 жыл бұрын
I liked that too 🤣
@chabis
@chabis 6 жыл бұрын
I see why Cara refused to wear the armour this time.
@Palmit.o
@Palmit.o 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Guhl hahahah speaking of her, what beautiful fingers she has 😗
@Doge-bz3vj
@Doge-bz3vj 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe he already take the shot.....but he missed...... the armour........
@BananaFuhrer
@BananaFuhrer 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@GnarledStaff
@GnarledStaff 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, that rust would turn most people off. Wouldn’t want to stain a nice garment.
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492
@theinacircleoftheancientpu492 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, couldn’t think of a suitable comment to follow the last video..
@cass7448
@cass7448 3 жыл бұрын
2:25 "I don't have high hopes... for this kind of bolt" 3:10 Easily the most lethal shot yet
@GeniusKasper3633
@GeniusKasper3633 Жыл бұрын
the ones before hit the scale, it went inbetween.
@danielelseth4106
@danielelseth4106 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, because they’re a great example of how armor is effective against missile weapons, and yet it is still worth shooting hundreds of arrows at an enemy formation.
@edelweiss-
@edelweiss- Жыл бұрын
but scale armor wasnt. like mentioned in the end, this scale armor was especially thick and out of steel. scale armor you mostly saw in the ancient times like in ancient egypt or syria. it was out of bronze and of course also a good protection but never as good as this one. and i think a good shot composite bow was also able back in the time to penetrate a bronze scale armor.
@constantinediomedes6277
@constantinediomedes6277 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more armor tests! I hope more companies (Like Armstreet or Steel Mastery) come up to you to test their products
@XthegreatwhyX
@XthegreatwhyX 6 жыл бұрын
This could be re-titled "Why the worst guns supplanted the best crossbows (despite blowing up in people's faces occasionally)"
@epauletshark3793
@epauletshark3793 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't use a zip .22 though.
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 Жыл бұрын
But if we are talking about rly rly early firearms, their accuracy was so bad that you may have preferred a crossbow. Crossbows and firearms were being used in conjunction for quite some time, that's most likely because they were somewhat competitive until the more accurate firearms were developed which would then totally outperform any crossbow or bow.
@edelweiss-
@edelweiss- Жыл бұрын
@@kooroshrostami27 from his range he was shooting, he would also hit with a firearm. and btw. even the first rifles, the Arquebuses were allready taking away the swords. after a short time, there were only arquebuses, pikes and cavalry on the battlefield and no more soldiers just with a sword. the arquebuses and later musketeers had their Rapiers for the melee and that was enough.
@bondrewdthebondad9079
@bondrewdthebondad9079 6 жыл бұрын
6:36 sid miers civilization when someone is behind in tech
@Fafner888
@Fafner888 6 жыл бұрын
0:36 portrait of Karl Marx :)
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Fafner888 holy shit bruh i see it on the scale he’s holding Daammmnn WOKE
@Galvantez
@Galvantez 6 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Karl's Scale 7:00
@Franuka
@Franuka 6 жыл бұрын
Omg hahahah
@nachomac10
@nachomac10 6 жыл бұрын
Knights of the world, UNITE!
@mr.personhumanson6871
@mr.personhumanson6871 6 жыл бұрын
hah, take that Jesus!
@starr_shine3060
@starr_shine3060 6 жыл бұрын
When you slow down the footage of the arrow, it moves nice and slow. When you slow down the footage of the bullet, you can't even get one frame of it. It really puts into perspective the amazing speed of a bullet.
@fujimi715
@fujimi715 2 жыл бұрын
The velocity is why bullets penetrate way better than arrows and bolts
@KorithStoneheart
@KorithStoneheart 10 ай бұрын
Roughly the speed of sound, I reckon
@TheStarman2021
@TheStarman2021 6 жыл бұрын
I like the cloud of rust some of the shots made. Very nice.
@conanstark8622
@conanstark8622 6 жыл бұрын
When you here that electric guitar kicking in, oh boy do you know this armor is in for treat XD
@chabis
@chabis 6 жыл бұрын
AR-500 scale armour would be quite a sight. And probably kind of heavy. I guess that why Kevlar got invented.
@avykh99
@avykh99 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Guhl Kevlar scale armor?
@navjyot5218
@navjyot5218 6 жыл бұрын
Peter Guhl I wanna see something that though.
@chabis
@chabis 6 жыл бұрын
Avy P That would be boring. Would be working far too well :D
@Locahaskatexu
@Locahaskatexu 6 жыл бұрын
Look up dragonscale bodyarmour (the modern variant). It's pretty much the same principle
@IPostSwords
@IPostSwords 6 жыл бұрын
AR 550 could be thinner with the same stopping power.
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Dont worry skall you’ll have power over the wind If you watch the last airbender 120 times in a row
@kassiopius8019
@kassiopius8019 6 жыл бұрын
ToxicSkull0 or cancer
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Kassiopius 😂
@ninjahombrepalito1721
@ninjahombrepalito1721 6 жыл бұрын
You might be on to something, lol
@DPSpade4ever
@DPSpade4ever 6 жыл бұрын
The real qeastion is you talking about the movie or the show cause that makes a big difference
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Powers the shit movie lmao
@plopolp9818
@plopolp9818 5 жыл бұрын
A whole episode of foreplay before the penetration started- Skallagrim is a real gentleman.
@friendlyjester8482
@friendlyjester8482 6 жыл бұрын
That crossbow is *THICC*
@Dionyboz
@Dionyboz 6 жыл бұрын
my proudest fap
@mattsamoto4451
@mattsamoto4451 6 жыл бұрын
i happend upon the youtube video of the guy who made that bow, and its awsome.
@aleksitjvladica.
@aleksitjvladica. 5 жыл бұрын
Your mother is.
@whatamidoingwithmylife4108
@whatamidoingwithmylife4108 3 жыл бұрын
@Turkish Shrek Wazowski Name checks out.
@alfatazer_8991
@alfatazer_8991 6 жыл бұрын
8:15 Oh, I think that ship has already sailed Skall. KZbin hates weapons remember?
@lorenzogiani7190
@lorenzogiani7190 6 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole advertisemen (Wich happens to be 4minutes long), you better get money or I'm gonna riot the shit out of my town
@stevenglikin3219
@stevenglikin3219 6 жыл бұрын
watching or skipping the ad makes no difference. It doesn't record how much time viewers spent on ads, it records how many ads were seen
@lorenzogiani7190
@lorenzogiani7190 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Glikin Well, fuck
@Akurokuma
@Akurokuma 6 жыл бұрын
That slow-mo cam action is beautiful .
@peasant8246
@peasant8246 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, Kara looks badass with that rifle.
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 6 жыл бұрын
You know, this is fun and all, but really this is applied archaeology. This is genuinely educational. Most teachers, or even university professors, don't have Skall's toys. I'd love to see a tie-in with a medieval/ancient history academic and Skallagrim.
@Kurokubi
@Kurokubi 6 жыл бұрын
3:24 I'm surprised he didn't even mention the fact that the bolt sliced through one of the scale.
@scottbraun2457
@scottbraun2457 4 ай бұрын
"...melted the gell".. is a good reminder of where "hot lead", comes from.
@edi9892
@edi9892 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see what a rondelle dagger would do on it....
@starr_shine3060
@starr_shine3060 6 жыл бұрын
edi yes, I too want to see that.
@madhatten00
@madhatten00 6 жыл бұрын
im guessing melee weapons would be a lot less effective the crossbow fires much faster than you can stab
@LemonRush7777
@LemonRush7777 6 жыл бұрын
Not as effective as a spaghetti sword.
@jonwassing
@jonwassing 6 жыл бұрын
Seconded! Me too.
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 4 жыл бұрын
that kriss vector 'smg' proves skallagrim has an excellent taste in guns
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 6 жыл бұрын
Oh how I love these *range weapon* tests on stuff :)
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of this scene in the movie "Support Your Local Sheriff" when James Garner's character is getting the badge from the town and it has a bullet dent in it. "Must have saved someone's life." "It would have if it weren't for the other bullets coming at him."
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Reviews in previous episode, shoots it in the next, 🤔 Skall is secretly an American
@migueeeelet
@migueeeelet 6 жыл бұрын
Well, he lives in Canada, so he is American. Nooot United-States-ofAmerica-n, tho
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192
@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 6 жыл бұрын
ToxicSkull0 🤣
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
migueeeelet ooh so that’s how it works
@realUlfricStormcloak
@realUlfricStormcloak 6 жыл бұрын
ToxicSkull0 ohhhhhhhhh yes that's how it works uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@ToxicSkull0
@ToxicSkull0 6 жыл бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak lmao
@JesseJamesJohnson
@JesseJamesJohnson 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see armor vs projectiles, I like.
@Zattack19
@Zattack19 6 жыл бұрын
So with crossbow bolts, wider seems to be a better plan as it lets it slide a bit to slip in between instead of a straight on pierce with a sharp narrow point.
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 6 жыл бұрын
i don't think that would be the case with well made scale armour, even if one managed to slip between two scales, on a properly made one if you had three rows of scales the bottom row would actually start so far up that the top layer covers it, so if anything sliped between the middle scales, the bottom row would stop it.
@Zattack19
@Zattack19 6 жыл бұрын
Justin Pal-Freeman Was just a observation. Could be that. But the wider bolts definetly skidded instead a straight on pierce. Watched the slow motion a couple of times cause it was surprising to watch
@thebastmaster
@thebastmaster 6 жыл бұрын
One of the things to consider in his testing here is, that he is shooting the armour from an angle one would not normally face when someone would be wearing it. Since the armour and the 'torso' are on the ground, a lot of the scales are angled in favour for him here. In normal use, they would all point down, nowhere near the enemy and not give projectiles an easier time slipping through. A wider head like the one shown here might still be able to slip through but the chance for that happening would probably be far lower.
@xluca1701
@xluca1701 6 жыл бұрын
And don't forget about the gambeson under the scale-armour.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 6 жыл бұрын
And/or mail armor.
@LeonM4c
@LeonM4c 6 жыл бұрын
I loved watching the high-speed footage of the scales bounce and shift after being shot. Satisfying.
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 6 жыл бұрын
This episode reminds me of the anime GATE... Also +1 for Dirty Hole 🤣
@Snodude_
@Snodude_ 3 жыл бұрын
My dudes gotta vector I've followed you for years and didn't know you had a modern firearm Love it
@daniswara1164
@daniswara1164 5 жыл бұрын
you should give another layer of padded armor or leather armor below the scale armor. otherwise, the damage given to the body won't be realistic enough
@zombienation696
@zombienation696 5 жыл бұрын
that "THUD" is so satisfying after every shot with the crossbow love it.
@WarlandWriter
@WarlandWriter 6 жыл бұрын
So this is type 2 scale armour, right? Would 3, 4 or 5 fare better against a crossbow as the scales don't part as easily?
@jacobr3533
@jacobr3533 6 жыл бұрын
WarlandWriter It would depend on the arrowhead. It would likely stop the crescent shaped arrowhead but I believe the sharp tipped bodkin would likely be more affective due to it having a more stable surface to penetrate.
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 6 жыл бұрын
The ultimate problem with scale, I think, is that it is really ineffective as a glancing surface. With larger plates, the force can deflect off. This just deflects into the area between the scales. All that force has to go somewhere, and it's probably going into you.
@laughingdaffodils5450
@laughingdaffodils5450 6 жыл бұрын
In general probably yes, at least the better lamellar suits are going to disperse energy more effectively and resist letting thing slip through the cracks.
@naverilllang
@naverilllang 5 жыл бұрын
@@roguishpaladin so what I'm getting from this is that with scale armor, softer metals are actually desirable, as a scale would be more likely to catch a point rather than deflect, but this makes the scale itself easier to penetrate. Guess that's why they switched to plate armor.
@reivercaptain510
@reivercaptain510 6 жыл бұрын
A video with crossbow action is always a win in my book.
@rat488
@rat488 6 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see more shots from the Crescent bolt from the crossbow just in case the shot you showed was a fluke.
@WakarimasenKa
@WakarimasenKa 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that seemed far more effective that it should have been. It even partially split a scale.
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 6 жыл бұрын
actually I think it wasn't that much of a fluke. if you think about it the bolt will spin when hitting the scales until it can slide through the gaps
@rat488
@rat488 6 жыл бұрын
but adding spin would reduce the power of the hit. I just would have liked to see a few more shots to see how it would do on a more than one shot basis.
@simtexa
@simtexa Жыл бұрын
The sound of black powder guns firing is so much more satisfying than modern firearms.
@ehkesoyo
@ehkesoyo 6 жыл бұрын
Man, that scale armor was doing so well at first... I feel bad for it by the end of the video XD
@Scout887
@Scout887 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks skall, these shooting videos, especially with historical weapons are always entertaining.
@Neddicus
@Neddicus 5 жыл бұрын
Next episode: Scale armor vs a .50 BMG
@Generalphoenix8438
@Generalphoenix8438 3 жыл бұрын
Its interesting how scale armour works with an actual demonstration against things. I'm using scales for my final fashion piece using faux leather. So looking at this gives me an idea on how to layer my leather to add features and details.
@matteussilvestre8583
@matteussilvestre8583 6 жыл бұрын
What about black arrows?
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 6 жыл бұрын
Matteus Silvestre I always thought the black arrow in the hobbit was just a lucky arrow; not really actually important or powerful beyond being well-made but personally important for bard as a family heirloom.
@chestermc9954
@chestermc9954 6 жыл бұрын
Smaug is triggered.
@Sheol02
@Sheol02 6 жыл бұрын
rattregoondoof that's exactly what it was.
@quetch2
@quetch2 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the book in years, but from the movie I definitely got the impression that these were somehow special dragon killing arrows. Which would make it all the more stupid that they fell out of use.
@silverhand9965
@silverhand9965 6 жыл бұрын
that's because the movie took a lot of liberties with the book's story
@federico033
@federico033 6 жыл бұрын
Your observation about how the uneven ground made loading more difficult, was some fine field archeology work
@ShieldWife
@ShieldWife 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video but I think I would rather see weapons used on scale that might have been used against it historically and even the crossbow is rather late period for scale.
@ArkadiBolschek
@ArkadiBolschek 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's kind of unfair. Crossbows were designed to deal with types of armour that were actually tougher and more advanced than scale. It would be interest to see it tested against regular bows or javelins.
@kuriadams9138
@kuriadams9138 6 жыл бұрын
Previous video he talks all about how bladed weapons (swords, axes, etc.) interact with scale armor, then in this video doesn't test it with any at all. It takes very specific armor to handle bullets, that's why plate armor disappeared after guns became common place.
@00Trademark00
@00Trademark00 6 жыл бұрын
A spear (and hence probably a javelin) could overcome this easily but it would be interesting to see it against a period sword (i.e. not very pointy). It is almost impossible to penetrate mail with such a sword, but this seems to be more vulnerable, particularly its basic variant (the Russian and Roman versions which stop the scales from moving might fare better). So that would be an interesting test.
@karlhans6678
@karlhans6678 6 жыл бұрын
how old is scale armor? thought it was used during medieval period (when crossbows were used). What about the Chinese that used crossbows earlier?
@diamondback3150
@diamondback3150 5 жыл бұрын
what? crossbows were in existence with scale armor. This test also proved the armor to successful. The one thing that Skall didn't mention was his distance to the armor. Considering the time he released the bolt and the thud, he shot within or less than 40 feet. It was super fast. So it was short distance. And that's all the damage it did. The armor did it's job. The archers would get 1 or 2 volleys within effective armor piercing range so it proves to show how tough it is to pierce armor. The only way for archers to effectively kill armored soldiers is 1. They're behind walls or wooden stakes or 2. soldiers protecting them in front of them. This also means that a direct cavalry charge would destroy them even if they manage to shoot 2 volleys at them.
@giarnovanzeijl399
@giarnovanzeijl399 6 жыл бұрын
I like how it turned into a gun showcase near the end.
@evelynfarfellwooosh1219
@evelynfarfellwooosh1219 5 жыл бұрын
3:45 DID YOU SEE THE ANT!?
@rearct
@rearct 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dylanbirkby1839
@dylanbirkby1839 6 жыл бұрын
The sound of the gunshot at 5:48 ... SOOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOD!
@Scottx125Productions
@Scottx125Productions 5 жыл бұрын
I'd honestly rather be wearing scale armour than mail if I was getting shot by arrows. And from what I've seen those metal plates look pretty thin and their strength could be partially compromised by the rust. I think if you increased the metal thickness by 1.5-2x and overlapped the scales more it'd be far more formidable.
@Kilmajaro
@Kilmajaro 2 жыл бұрын
This is very true. I had a few square feet of 1.2 mm thick scales and was testing their strength, .22 did nothing tho the scales, 9 millimeter dented the scales, and .223 punctured almost all of the times we fired it. There was one time that a scale caught the .223 though.
@ngaese
@ngaese 6 жыл бұрын
hi Skal wanted to mention at the 3:30 point the broad head bolt actually sliced a scale, not simply passed between by the looks of it
@SwordsmanMike
@SwordsmanMike 6 жыл бұрын
Dirty hole
@daboiii2009
@daboiii2009 6 жыл бұрын
actually if u r pewdiepie, your vid will get copyright strike :v
@romannk1895
@romannk1895 6 жыл бұрын
've been looking for this comment, thank you x)
@SirSkroop
@SirSkroop 6 жыл бұрын
You could see the rust coming off in little bits, pretty cool.
@pixlark4287
@pixlark4287 6 жыл бұрын
Crossbows would historically have been used from a much longer range than this, right? And therefore have a lower velocity and impact when it actually hits the armor.
@00Trademark00
@00Trademark00 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about crossbows but longbows were actually used at a fairly close range, or more precisely mostly used at a rather short range. At least that seems to be what Mike Loades believes (and supports with some tests and arguments based on better penetration as well as pretty much all illuminations showing archers shooting forward rather than at an angle). Also almost everyone would wear a helmet, many people would not wear quality armour, so you are more likely to do more damage shooting them from the front rather than from above. But given that crossbows take much longer to reload, they might have been used a bit differently.
@kooroshrostami27
@kooroshrostami27 Жыл бұрын
Yes, though the difference in penetration is not as siginificant as one might expect, Tod has tested this. Either way, the armor clearly worked not great but still decently, a lot of these shots would have done absolutely nothing and keep in mind that this is a pretty high end crossbow for the medieval times. A lighter one would do even less and would probably have to slide in between the scales to cause any damage at all. The fact that bolts can slide in between is quite a weak point of the armor though since they would most definetly cause fatality.
@TheDunestyler
@TheDunestyler 6 жыл бұрын
on the smaller bodkin tip try: as there would most likely be additional padding, the penetration would be close to null
@JohnDoe-wj7ht
@JohnDoe-wj7ht 6 жыл бұрын
You kids go out and have fun...
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 6 жыл бұрын
Put that armour on a skeleton king and you'll have the perfect decoration for your Halloween GURPS session.
@ChaosBW
@ChaosBW 6 жыл бұрын
Soak that armor in coca cola to remove the rust
@heavycurrent7462
@heavycurrent7462 5 жыл бұрын
Vinegar works better
@alarson1799
@alarson1799 3 жыл бұрын
@@heavycurrent7462 9mil worked pretty well for shaking off some of the dust
@switchkill88
@switchkill88 6 жыл бұрын
Love the noise with the Kriss, firing and when it hit
@judahtirona9487
@judahtirona9487 6 жыл бұрын
Who else wants to fire that crossbow?
@windhelmguard5295
@windhelmguard5295 6 жыл бұрын
you don't fire a crossbow, you shoot it. you only "fire" weapons that actually use gun powder.
@judahtirona9487
@judahtirona9487 6 жыл бұрын
Windhelm Guard this is a definition I got from Google verb 1. discharge a gun or other weapon in order to explosively propel (a bullet or projectile).
@judahtirona9487
@judahtirona9487 6 жыл бұрын
Well as long as people understand what I'm talking about thrn I think its fine
@Artyomthewalrus
@Artyomthewalrus 4 жыл бұрын
@@hazzmati I know I'm a year late to this, but "fire" is an acceptable term for most projectile weapons in the modern era. You can fire someone without litterally setting them on fire, you can fire off questions without fire, neurons in your brain can fire (it would be interesting if you had millions of fires started every second in your head). Although the term "fire" wasn't originally used for crossbows until firearms came into being, language is ever evolving and there are thousands apon thousands of terms that weren't used in certain cases a few centuries ago. Many terms for crossbows only exist in the english language with the word "fire". The term "dry fire" is used almost elusively for releasing without a bolt, or "rapid fire" for shooting quickly. If you are being shot at by a group of crossbowmen, it would be proper to shield yourself from enemy "fire". "Shoot" is by far the most commonly used term for the act of shooting a crossbow, but "fire" remains an acceptable term to the vast majority. If you read the translation of many old texts "fire" is also commonly used. "The Zhuge Nu is a handy little weapon that even the Confucian scholar or palace women can use in self-defence... It fires weakly so you have to tip the darts with poison." "Directed into the enemy's heavily obscured formation, their repeating crossbows (powered by linkage with the wheels) fired repeatedly in random directions, inflicting heavy casualties." Now you could say that the people who write books or translate books don't have a grasp of the english language, but is it not sensible that because something is a commonly accepted term, it is a proper usage in the english language? The only way "fire" would not be correct is if you are writing a period piece where you attempt to speak more in a historical context, and even then it's up to the author whether to use modern terms or not.
@s4mur41RPG
@s4mur41RPG 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't think you used guns But shooting old armour with a vector looks so satisfying ❤️
@ArmouryTerrain
@ArmouryTerrain 6 жыл бұрын
no non-fantasy armour is good against everything. Bullets destroy most metal armour and are stopped at least mostly by modern armour. BUT modern armour tends to be vulnerable to thrust and slash attacks from bladed weapons and offers very little protection from bludgeoning. I guess that it is just a matter of having the right armour for the weapons you are facing.
@joshuahadams
@joshuahadams 6 жыл бұрын
Armoury-Terrain Iirc there was a period where metal armour was more likely to be able to stop a gun shot. Oda Nobunaga was supposedly knock on his ass by two shots from an assassin with an arquebus. He got up and, being Oda Nobunaga, had the would-be assassin painfully executed. It was probably Nobunaga being able to afford a good quality set of armour and the fact that the arquebus had a smooth bore, making accurate shots difficult.
@ArmouryTerrain
@ArmouryTerrain 6 жыл бұрын
or the fact that the black powder did not fire a ball as quickly as gunpowder does. If a bullet or ball was on an angle it could also glance off. It is possible to have steel armour which is bullet proof but it becomes too heavy to wear against later firearms.
@stevenglikin3219
@stevenglikin3219 6 жыл бұрын
bullets penetrate with raw force, while blades/arrows/bolts use sharpness to rip through, so bullets are more effective vs solid armor while blades/arrows/bolts are more effective vs soft armor
@DiamondxReigns
@DiamondxReigns 6 жыл бұрын
The wide point actually did slice through the bottom of one of the scales and made it between the two behind it.
@saikonakoshi4334
@saikonakoshi4334 6 жыл бұрын
Hentai offers a unique perspective on an otherwise taboo side of life
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah boi
@Legiro
@Legiro 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine the reason the crescent-shaped bolt did so well at 3:00 was due to scales being somewhat curved. Watching closely, it is rotating (expected) and as it hit the scales - it sort of slid on them into the gap in-between. I bet adjusted design of the scales would prevent such glaring problem. I wonder if that was one of the issues the prevented scale armour from being as widespread later on. Even if tie every scale ala lamellar armor - the gaps between the scales would still be an issue. While the cost of production is not that cheap either.
@seedfan8548
@seedfan8548 6 жыл бұрын
Skall, which do you think would be more protective, scale armour(e.g. Lorica) or coat of plate?
@aldor9357
@aldor9357 6 жыл бұрын
Coat of plates all the way, boi
@longschlongjohnson6470
@longschlongjohnson6470 6 жыл бұрын
seedFan85 Not Skall, but probably a coat of plates. This video clearly demonstrated the dangers interest in wearing scale armor where the scales aren't fixed to each other.
@berndmaier915
@berndmaier915 6 жыл бұрын
seedFan85 coat of plates caues the plates are riveted to the inside of lether/cloth and they ovelap in a way that makes it impossible for a blade or a bolt to slip between the plates
@seedfan8548
@seedfan8548 6 жыл бұрын
If were talking about Lorica plumata though, it's scales attached to a mail backing.
@WarlandWriter
@WarlandWriter 6 жыл бұрын
So, if the slipping between the plates/ scales is the problem, would the type 3, 4 or 5 scales (mentioned in the previous video) still be significantly worse than the coat of plates?
@toddtheisen8386
@toddtheisen8386 3 жыл бұрын
Actual person, actually firing at actual armor and actually loading the weapon. Best sort of test in my opinion. Uneven ground and all.
@ГрецкийОлег-щ3г
@ГрецкийОлег-щ3г 6 жыл бұрын
Demonetized)))
@herpyderpy2869
@herpyderpy2869 3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t have power over the weather quite yet, I’m working on it.” -Skall before he turns into Thor
@Mandalor98
@Mandalor98 5 жыл бұрын
One small issue I think about this testing is the angle at which the armor is sitting. Perhaps it’s negligible, but I would think the reclined angle at which the armor is sitting would help with penetration as noted in the last video. Maybe I’m just crazy though.
@donjear2226
@donjear2226 6 жыл бұрын
A full double over overlap (like you find on a classic shingle or tiled roof) would also help keep pointy thins from going through the cracks, as the entire crack is then cover by either the row of scales above or below a given row. I would be interested it how it would have done spear or sword thrusts.
@ChumblesMumbles
@ChumblesMumbles 6 жыл бұрын
The broad crescent tip bolt shows the inherent problem with scale armor, especially in this configuration where the scales are only fastened at the top. It looks like scales, but when an incoming blow hits the scale, it naturally glances off.....right into the crack between the scale and the one next to it. Force is essentially redirected exactly where you don't want it to go. The pointier tips impacted hard enough to bite into the scale itself, which was in some ways counterproductive. A spear or sword thrust would behave more like the broad blade tip.
@tragnemalm
@tragnemalm 6 жыл бұрын
6:51 That sounds amazing! The second impact especially.
@jamesfstokes
@jamesfstokes 6 жыл бұрын
You should do some tests with bladed weapons to visually demonstrate what it would take to penetrate scale armor.
@-TiSpargere.queO-Etinfernos
@-TiSpargere.queO-Etinfernos 6 жыл бұрын
This video is iterestingly what peeked arrow made at all , thanks !
@thewaterbear
@thewaterbear 4 жыл бұрын
"Well damn, Jackie! I can't control the weather!"
@FortyTwoBlades
@FortyTwoBlades 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like the broadhead bolt actually cut through the edge of one of the scales, and I think the bolts were able to readily slip between the scales because of the slight rearward tilt of the armor, allowing them to skate off of one scale and up under the one above, going right into backing leather.
@kovi567
@kovi567 6 жыл бұрын
Skall, I just love the sound of your percussion pistol. I don't know why, but that satisfying PEOWMN makes my kokoro doki-doki. It also makes me speak weeaboo.
@Sneedmeister
@Sneedmeister 4 ай бұрын
i like the cloud of rust that pops up after ever hit
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Always loved the look of scale. I must buy or make some one day. You can see why lamellar came about if projectiles can slip between scales-which I wasn't expecting, though it may be the modern scale design you were using. Even a little horizontal overlap may possiblyreduce that vulnerability, I wonder. In melee the majority of blows are downward, but you only need one to kill or injure & the job is done.
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 5 жыл бұрын
This is just costume armour. Real scale armour usually had lacing halfway down each scale, hidden by the next row above, to give much better resistance to being pushed apart. A gambeson would also usually be worn beneath. Mild steel is very soft & untempered too. Nothing except the thickest plate breastplates will stop a bullet! I've always love the look of scale armour.
@steelfoam2518
@steelfoam2518 6 жыл бұрын
When I made my own scale armor, I made the scales long enough so there is no gaps like in this armor you tested. Also convexed them only enough to follow human shape. Too convexed scales, like those in that armor you tested, would only serve to guide piercing hits to between scales.
@leandre741
@leandre741 4 жыл бұрын
I like how they went fullf Demolition Ranch at the end
@navjyot5218
@navjyot5218 6 жыл бұрын
Showing off the power of guns? I love it.
@kasper7574
@kasper7574 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you shoot a piece of scale mail, id like to think it would hold up better if the scales are integrated into the weaving of the chainmail...
@KayossSZ
@KayossSZ 6 жыл бұрын
Just having a wide open area to go out shooting like that...looks so fun. I envy you. xD
@MrFlyingLamma
@MrFlyingLamma 6 жыл бұрын
I guess the wider tipped bolt’s ability to tend to separate the scales apart is why it was able to do so much damage, interesting
@whatamidoingwithmylife4108
@whatamidoingwithmylife4108 3 жыл бұрын
3:46 Skall : "That's gonna be a little painful" Ballistic gel dummy : 💀
@nightelf4860
@nightelf4860 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You ALL for your hard work and time :) This rocked !!
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 6 жыл бұрын
The Kriss is a great little carbine, no? My buddy had one. Brass catcher bag is super handy, especially if you reload. Taking the barrel shroud off (single set screw iirc) makes it look a little silly, but it's much less nose heavy.
@jasondunbar3667
@jasondunbar3667 5 жыл бұрын
Damn not only are you a medieval badass. You have a good collection of firearms especially that vector.
@stav1369
@stav1369 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this same test vs proper Plate with Mail under it and an arming doublet. Interested in how the Percussion pistol would go. I read that some plates could protect against black powder pistols but not muskets at close range.
@bowmaster619letschug6
@bowmaster619letschug6 6 жыл бұрын
I like how in slow-mo the crossbow sounds kinda like a gun
@niscent_
@niscent_ 6 жыл бұрын
maybe scale armor can get a bit more protection against penetration than plate armor for the same thickness because of its flexibility that allow a bit of cushioning on a stab.
@MasterOfCydonia
@MasterOfCydonia 6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered trying to test the Gastraphetes "Belly-Releaser" on these armors? It would be cool to see how these later armors stack up against ancient weapons.
@beyourselfth
@beyourselfth 6 жыл бұрын
Could you also shoot/chop common items for comparison? A piece of wood maybe? A couch cushion? A pillow?
@AnjnShan
@AnjnShan 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to assume a thrusting weapon with a pointed, narrow blade can pierce. I prefer a good dagger stuck up the scales, or a hammer to dent the armor.
@ThePinkPanth3r
@ThePinkPanth3r 4 жыл бұрын
Scale mail you would think would offer different results depending how close to a center of a scale vs how close to a seam.
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 6 жыл бұрын
with a few of the crossbow shots i think the torso being laid back might have helped the arrows slide between the plates... so if we are fighting gel torsos in scale we need to wait till they are napping under a tree!.
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