Skate liners explained

Most stock liners are pretty descent these days. No need to change them if you are not looking for any specific type of fit. Changing your liner however can greatly change the way a skate feels, fits and performs.
There are a few different types of aftermarket liners, ranging from thin ones to thick ones.
Skaters downsize by taking a shell that is usually to small for them but make it skateable with a very thin, or a worn down old liner.
Other skaters make their shell fit better by buying a new, and thicker liner. The better your foot is locked in, the better performance you have. More info on how to make your skates fit better can be found in this blog post:
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[@cmousdale]

Thanks once again for an informative video ! Skate sizing is hard. That video you posted of the interior shell sizes has changed everything for me.

[@PeterKoperdan]

Great video man. You are clearly super knowledgeable and explain things well. Respect!

[@wolfiezsnb8824]

Nice way to put it guys keep up the great work!

[@kajok23]

Thanks for one of the best video that I saw about Liners 👍 It helped me a lot 😉

[@danielpassos6848]

Thank you for your time, sir.

[@Martin_Krutina]

Cool one. Thanks!

[@fouedzatanet9247]

Great video very helpful, , do you have à video about How is the liners stitched?

[@hansvl1363]

So if I understand correctly I can take my wife and kids to your shop. Joy takes them shopping and we go skating or talk about skates in the shop? Great podcast once again!

[@Thisissoul]

Haha sounds like a good deal, right?

Gracias, gracias, gracias, me aclaraste muchas dudas y confirmaste muchas sospechas.

[@nerdsnoh3729]

I love this guy

[@ppowerman5000]

I just received Powerslide Next 90 Burgundy...my first pair of inlines ever. And to my surprise the liner myfit, is too tight. Im looking for thin liners now. This video is very helpful.

[@RobyMontes22]

Boricua? Que size pediste? Tengo Los Powerslide Zoom EU 41-42. Me quedan perfectos pero creo que puedo correr una bota mas pequeña. Siento que el PS Next 40-41 correrá muy pequeño por el liner, y el 42-43 muy grande. Ahora venden un Next Pro boot con El Second skin liner que no es tan grueso. Veo que tu comentario es Viejo, pero lograste resolver tu problema con El tamaño? Venden el second skin liner a parte. Quizas ese te queda bien.

[@ppowerman5000]

@@RobyMontes22 ...42-43 es el size que compré. Pero con un "heat gun" expandí los patines. Si, boricua.

[@miguelmunoz9989]

Thanks for this interesting video. The outer shell and the liner of my Rollerblades are connected by a plastic tong at the heel. Is this intended to allow the liner to pull the outer shell and provide extra control ?

[@broboss9530]

7:45 holy shit thats so useful to know lol, my friends bag on me to get new skates cause i got parts of the cushon missin and the back cushon on my razors sl 3 skates, the heel part is all gone its just metal and i love it haha edit:sl3

[@UnrebornMortuus]

So my feet don't have much to work with in this hard shell, I need the thinnest liner recommandation possible. I currently cut up the stock liner so it gives support on the back of my ankle but room for the toes, and 2 socks.

[@3rdtwirl494]

Thank you both so much. My aeons make my feet scream. I’m right at the larger dual size and needing to explore another liner your video really helps with the important elements. I’ll also try the heal, but if I were to purchase a new liner what options would you say are best. Not doing tricks believe it or not. Just skating around .. only a year in

[@jupvan]

The Aeon Shell is super hard . Try some old Rollerblade or Them liner . U can punch the shell with a heatgun. Search for skiboot punching on youtube fir more information. It works really good .

[@hvdb4492]

@@jupvan omg. Me to thank you 🙏 I’ll try it

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

​@@hvdb4492alternatively if you need more space. The intuition liber is good for increasing space in your boot and its at least said by many people to protect your feet better from specific pressure points in the boot because its harder outside so the pressure wont come through the liner. This is all just said by hearing never used a intuition liner myself

[@HiFocusedCinematography]

What’s the benefit of heel lift? Ive skated razors for years but with a lower heel pad. Why do they make the stock razor heel so thick? Any idea of the benefits of more forward lean?

[@bryandaluga9077]

What is that at 12.38? That you suggest to put over liner/ laces to push liner down???

[@jens7008]

Yes! What is it?

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

That's an old school kizer puffy tongue. Puffy tongues used to be all the rage, never thought they had a practical use tbh it was just the fashion in the early 2000s

[@AlejandroTaylorEscribano]

Great video! Quick question: I get chafing on my shins after 45-60mins. The boot fits well otherwise but I come home with bloody socks and can’t skate for 2 weeks while I recover. Any tips?

[@dozone6043]

Get a caliper to measure the thickness. They make digital ones now.

[@jarodk7396]

Were can I get a thin plastic insert to protect my liner?

[@noampitlik2332]

Just get those black and gold Intuition liners, like I did, and that's it.

[@emanuellopez7925]

Can I use a small liner in a biger Boot? My skates áre 1 size bigger

[@malinoafull]

Which liners do you recommend for a wide feet? 10cm width 😁

[@ronny12301]

3:50 What is the benefit of having a raised liner?

[@anilm3515]

Hi, I have decided to lear skates, my 1st step would be buying a new Skates, I went through online, and found out Endless Trinity Frame, and I am going to buy 80MM wheels, Now my question is, what Liner/Boot should I buy? Highly appreciated your recommendation.

[@jacob3092]

I just got a pair of USD Aeon Wii team blades in size 11-11.5 shell. But when I have my foot in the shell with my liner on the liner is so tight that my toe is snug to the end of the liner, sometimes I wear a size 11.5 shoe size (depending on the brand of shoe) but usually I wear a size 12 shoe. With my foot in just the shell (without the liner) I have plenty of space, should I buy a liner that is one size up let's say 11.5-12 or even a straight 12 size of should I bring them back and get a size 12 skate?. Thanks for the video.

[@cubul32]

What's that thing which goes under the laces?

[@2006v4]

Hey, a big fan of your content even before i got inlines. Im starting to get the best comfort out of my inlines, but i find the liner moves either on rough floors, or when attempting toe work. Is tightening the 45 degree strap + laces the answer? (Imperial 80, fatboy liner)

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

Yes. Alternatively maybe the shell is to big for your feet but first of all you should tighten the laces and strap more. There are also different ways of lacing to adapt to different problems

[@1114Olga]

I am looking for liner thick in toes area (it may be thick all-round). Any recommendation?

[@ismaelgonzalez5475]

I'm currently have an 8-9 sway with stock liners and saw a good deal for an 8-9 Myfit Second Skin. Will I have an issue with too much space in the boot?

[@omarq580]

What is the thing that you can use over the liner and below the laces to push your feet down?

[@Thisissoul]

We have it in our store in Amsterdam but we are still working on the product a bit. It should hit the webshop in about a year for sure.

[@DelPlatoMusic]

Do you have any Micron Quadraflex or Micron Laser ice skate liners?

[@dubbingpros]

Can you make a video about how to deal with pressure points? because I have a horrible pressure point on my left food on the inside edge of my pointy bone above the heal.. It feels like that bone is pressing against the Hard Plastic directly, although I have powerslide next 110 with my fit liners.. this issue has just risen after 1 year of usage, it wasn't there when I first got my skates.

[@Thisissoul]

good one! we have something in the pipeline but I feel like we are not ready yet to bring it out. We do offer bootfitting, check it out here! www.thisissoul.com/products/custom-tool-bootfitting

[@chucktownattack]

What laces do you recommend for liners that need lacing but didn't come with them.... PS Next 110s with Recall Liners for reference.

[@handeezle2032]

So, I just got a pair of 57 sways with the usd dual fit liner, they're size 43-44. They seem to be comfortable but my toes go numb after about 30 minutes, can you recommend a liner and size for someone with a narrow foot? I was the the myfit 2nd skins...thoughts?

[@campish3852]

for me old jug 2 liner size 44 feels way more snug than a new seba CJ 2 prime liner of the same size. Even My fit 2nd skin size 44 (feels more of a 43) feels better for eliminating heel lift and not too tight widthwise. Why do you think that bigger liner in the same shell will fit better? My experience is diffrend. Thinner and smaller 2nd skin liner feels better in CJ 2 prime, than original liner.

[@zwitsalhaardoen3313]

I used the excuse at 13:10 to get my liners haha.

[@Thisissoul]

Haha

[@SuuzieQ]

So I bought the Powerslide urban imperial yellow that has a Fat Boy myfit liner 39-40 in it. My toes touch the front and stretches the fabric. Is this a good thing or do I need a bigger size?

[@Thisissoul]

yes, your toes should touch the front

[@kenbulbrook5817]

So where do you buy liners? I have a 90s pair of Ultra Wheels. I really like them but I need replacment liners.

[@Thisissoul]

Our website!

[@blanked_out_chin]

Hey, I know this question isn't about liners: Do you know which soul plate brands and their sizes can fit on to 41EU Seba SX2 boot?

[@Thisissoul]

Hi Chingching, The seba soul would fit the best ofcourse. USD Seven and the USD carbon will also work. let me know if you want me to try out ether of those on a 41. I do think that the stock soul works just fine and probably has the best fit.

[@blanked_out_chin]

@@Thisissoul Hey! Thanks for replying! I can't get a hold of seba plates where I am but the USD carbon plates looks like the best bet for now. Do you think medium or large is better fit for the sx boot?

[@Thisissoul]

@@blanked_out_chin we will get them back in stock in black with our next Seba shipment. you can check out the stock here: www.thisissoul.nl/skateparts/soulplates/merk/seba.html

[@Joey.Oranje]

Die opvul pads voor tussen de liner en veters moet ik hebben. Staan die ook op je site?

[@Thisissoul]

I just added them on the liner page, and also in the description of the video. Let me know if they work out for you! www.thisissoul.com/skateparts/liners.html

[@andrescardona9102]

What's the name of the thing you show at the end of the video to make your skate tighter from the top?

[@podwick7222]

Did you ever find out what that thing was called?

[@amfc13]

I'm also trying to find that out...

[@amfc13]

Found it: kizer puffy tongue

[@jesseeek4418]

12:32 hoe heet dit onderdeel en waar kan ik het vinden?

[@BernardoAmorim]

she is lovely!

[@udihu]

Well put together. A key thing I ok for a liner is the soft, padded heel lock. I'm interested in the MyFit Crown. How thick the padding is and how soft is it. To give a reference, I consider the skinny and the fatboy soft and the recall hard. The indicator here is in which liner my ankle start to hurt. Does the Crown has heel lock like the fat and the skinny? Overall, how does it compare to those?

[@Thisissoul]

Hi peter. A good heel lock is super important. I didnt talk about that and should have. Thanks for reminding me. We do not stock the crown liner so that is why i can not test it. I did have it in my hand before and remember that it was super thick.

[@chilli-iceolive-abode2447]

I'm sure you've figured out by now Peter, but just in case anyone else sees this and wants to know. It is thick, but it's a harder foam than the Fatboy with good heel lock. Initially I found it quite uncomfortable as I said cuz the foam seemed hard, but they broke in beautifully. You can heat mold to speed up that process if you wish.

[@m0rg0thb4u9l1r]

Can you wash liners or it would ruin them?

[@Thisissoul]

put them in the dish washer www.thisissoul.com/blogs/maintenance/how-to-clean-your-skates

[@davidmorgan4541]

I thought hard boot was plastic or carbon and a softboot was like a trigger or anything like that

[@danatello8489]

Basically. Defining em like he does kind of comes from K2 creating the "soft boot" where there was no hard plastic shell surrounding the whole skate, the "liner" was a part of the skate, and many parts of the skate were quite soft. So some boots that have carbon in them might be considered "soft boot" if the liner is built in, particularly partly when at least part of the boot is just stiff fabrics (soft), and not a hard plastic shell.

[@Thisissoul]

Correct Danatello! It is such a fussy and not usefull definition as it has been used, that i just wanted to clarify it and make it in something we can actually use when describing skates.

[@spade4acer]

Triggers are hard boots with skin, they are a TRS mold.

[@blackyraypatrick9041]

The music was extremely disturbing...