How To Install Rails | Skateboarding Tips

[@Tommyblueeyes]

My lord. Back in the 80s I used rails, 60mm wheels and a wider deck, then the 90s came, no rails 7.5 inch deck 42 mm wheels, now the 80s are coming back to haunt me again! haha. Its just weird all the kids asking, Should I use rails? When to me it was very common!

[@_racoon_7778]

Tommy Orr Jr i didnt really dig the 90s boards i still have an 80s deck hasnt been used since 87 but my granfather didnt want it so he gave it to me to use and yes indeed theyre more wide and stabled flat concave rails ,skid plate and nose gard screams 80s all respects to the 80s man stay rad

[@thesickknight846]

@@_racoon_7778 q

[@ToneScavenger]

I never made the 90’s change and even though I did ended up riding popsicle decks, they were always 8.5” or bigger and always with rails.

[@usernotfound7681]

Tommy Orr Jr did you mean 52? Because today’s wheels are normally 52-56mm

[@JimVincent]

@@usernotfound7681 in the late 80s/early 90s, we had wheels that small. He definitely meant 42mm.

[@Milk-qm9yi]

I’m gonna get rails just because I want to save my board from getting all scratched up from curbs

[@ItsBryson]

Same

[@yulviera5983]

SAME

[@klol2124]

Yea Its not everyday I get to spend 50-100 bucks in a new deck with a nice graphic

[@robbiesharp311]

And yo sister.

[@pauliewalnuts5241]

You never want to screw one side of the rail in and then the other end. It will cause the rails to bow and have gaps in the middle. Always go in order, one screw next to the other.

[@anthonyshepard9606]

: That makes a hole lot of more sense : OUTSTANDING. 🐢 🛹 🐢 🛹 🐢 🛹

[@barrymaccochner8060]

Just sayin...wouldnt going middle out make more sense?

[@pauliewalnuts5241]

@@barrymaccochner8060 it's much easier to go in order left to right, that way you can make sure the rails line up straight. Going from the middle outward can make the rails crooked.

[@robbiesharp311]

Clamp your rail while screwing.

[@lexbeltran1354]

​@@robbiesharp311Good tip

[@B0NGERSON]

I'm so tempted to try skating rails but I'm scared of change lol

[@Henners]

Mostlyfpsclips try them. Don’t like them just take them off

[@joemcbee]

Try them! It doesnt hurt to tweak your setup occasionally

[@kagetupa701]

They are great for sliding on parking curbs.

[@kagetupa701]

And look very nice on old schools

[@odinzimmerman608]

I just got some and I'm telling you in worth it. it's a change but a good one

[@alexbinns3038]

really helpful! I've never bought any rails because I would have to use a drill but now I know they don't so now I can get some 😂 thanks dude

[@jessejohnson8562]

got some rib bones in the mail off amazon and they specifically state DO NOT USE A DRILL so there ya go, get at em boyee!

[@dirtysunrises]

U scared of a drill bro

[@alexbinns3038]

@@dirtysunrises bruh i didnt have a drill back then i was 15 😂

[@dirtysunrises]

@@alexbinns3038 og well, im sure ur family or whatever situation ur in does or maybe not I dunno have a good one bruh

[@175chaunceytovan]

I use for street skateboard

[@joshuakeller5514]

chauncey tovan same i want the board to last longer

that won't kill your board. Snapping your board or razor tail is going to get to you first.

[@twenty2082]

Did you edit the part out where you had to bore out the holes in the rails, just so the screws can fit in them? Those screws definitely don't screw in that easy unless my board is made of some other material, I had to use a hammer to set it in even further because the screws would not bite into the board any further once it reached the top of the hole.

[@roberthartmann782]

I have some 80s and 90s boards before they made popsicles. I have one original vision double deck. But I'm 44yr oldfart now and barely ride fighting fibromyalgia Crap and other issues. But at least my kids will get my collection. I think rails are good and specially u guys get drill all way threw screws and nuts kind hardware . Of course those wood screws will snap off down road

[@fjllosa9]

Siguiendo ese método los tornillos se saldrán. Hay que hacer un taladro con la broca mas fina que tengas y después usar cinta adhesiva de doble cara antes de meter los tornillos, esto evitara que la vibración escupa los tornillos. Esta es la mejor forma.

[@thormuller1730]

I Like Santa cruz

[@supachopped1400]

At 2:17 mine won’t go flush they stay on top but still out holes in my board

[@SkateWarehouse]

Try adding more pressure/weight when you are installing. An old trick is to use a wood clap to tightly secure the rail to your board before you begin screwing. Good luck!

[@supachopped1400]

Skate Warehouse I did and my pops tried no matter how much pressure they won’t stay in they just fall out lol

[@rossthomson9833]

@@supachopped1400 same here.

[@caprikorny8480]

If tou make a pilot hole with a really tiny drill bit, you can screw them in really securely by hand with just a screwdriver. The process is a bit time consuming but worth it.

[@SkateWarehouse]

Thanks for the tip!

[@CaliBreeeze]

Slap em on, an go get knar! Shahhhh

[@cjchavez19]

Start from the middle when you're screwing them in. Also, use double sided tapefirst ehen you place the rails. Then screw them in. They wont ever rattle loose if you do that.

[@lexbeltran1354]

I'll try it.

[@jamiestott8698]

would the rails break from tricks like ollie disasters?

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

No, Rails are being used since the 80's so...

[@SWVIDS01]

+Jamie Stott no, they are flexible. The rails don't even break! My board got under a car and only one rail bent a bit. After the car-over-board accident i used the rails again for my next board!

[@Tommyblueeyes]

never broke my rails ever. the deck will snap but the rails wont.

[@Anthony-fq9ct]

If I want to only run one deck rail, toeside or healside? All my grinds are backside

[@danknaggs5200]

thanks for making this video dude😉

[@translucentlylucid6442]

you guys should make trick tips this detailed

[@SkateWarehouse]

translucentlylucid What details specifically? We try to make them as in-depth as possible, but any input is welcome!

[@GlassGenius]

Remember "Rat Nuts". They held that shit on proper!

[@evanriesmeyer3493]

Nicholas Evans My fist name is Evan

[@Leafshutterlens]

Had trouble putting them in my flight deck. Screw ended up coming loose pretty fast too.

[@dirtysunrises]

Move the hole or fill the hole with toothpicks

[@erden-kilickesen352]

But what if i put it to the toe side and i do line where i do pop shuve it and then boardslide and the rail is wrong side?

[@BonelessBen]

vision rails !!!!!!

[@AUSTORMCHASERS]

It's funny that these were laughed at some 20yrs ago.

[@dudeabides23]

I like the old timey music. Makes me want to tie a damsel to the rail road tracks while twirling my mustache and laughing manically

[@jayorojas8482]

do these help with ur board snapping

[@scolex8001]

Jay Rojas no

[@MrAce21]

It's makes it harder😂😂😂

[@jacksongillan5749]

I guess if you repeatedly hit your deck the rails it may snap easier but plastic breaks easier than would so i guess if you want to snap your board then get a sledge hammer so yeah

[@dougaigner3258]

Rails and Tail Bone are the old school way to go... ;)

[@SkateWarehouse]

For sure.

[@sadiew7031]

can you put them on before the trucks and wheels?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+Sadie W sure!

[@wyattshook2775]

Will this keep my graphic from getting screwed up? I have the dog from the Melvins album Houdini on mine and i want to keep it pretty clean just in case I ever see buzz osborn and get him to sign it. Would be a nice addition to my collection! He’s also pretty hard to miss with his wizard fro

[@davidleeashkenazi8992]

I use Pig rails (well one, cuz JJ said 'one is all you need' lol) and they're really good *but* the mounting hardware is shit! so weak get stripped on installing and I know how to install Rails - been doin' it for years.

[@elinevdpoll3960]

My pig crews got stripped really fast too. I had other rails before and they worked fine. Also, my screws won’t sink in

[@TheKIDsWhoDew]

Do these Board rail screw at all effect the plys of the deck or weaken the board at all by putting screws in the bottom of the board. @Skate Warehouse

[@SkateWarehouse]

+OutDoor Addiction I have never heard of the rails effecting the boards integrity. however, installation of rails will void any warranty your deck may be under

[@rossthomson9833]

As I was tightening the bolts the rail just got higher so gave up.

[@victorr_o4]

I got some bones rails and then they broke off my board then a week later my deck snapped

[@chilledtea6614]

you just have bad luck lol random comment

[@creature1349]

We used to use t-bolts instead of screws... no delam or rails ripping out

[@sebp400]

@@creature1349 so true, I just remembered.

[@nathanjudds3530]

rails installed with bolts through the deck are much better because you can tighten them or replace a broken bolt.

[@nathanjudds3530]

quieter ride

[@leehazlewoodism]

Look forward to the rattle! I was glad when I stopped using rails - they look stupid and sometimes catch on things.

[@vlasovvlasov1048]

they don't look stupid until you do.

[@MartyMcFryyy]

Wow, great info, ever heard of double sided tape ? No rattle.

[@Boozewa]

I had to reset my rails because I had them set too close against the edge, and the image still got slightly scuffed. Now I got an ugly set of extra holes in my board...does this compromise the integrity though???

[@SkateWarehouse]

Not enough to notice a difference. Just skate and I'm sure you'll be fine. If your board was going to break it would have by now or something else would cause it.

[@burtman9649]

I still have sets of rails from the 80s and of course they only have 4 screw holes! I got schmidt sticks, ugly sticks from Powell, some Sims, and some ODI saber tooth tiger tails and they all have only 4 holes each so Im assuming there is definitely no need to have 5 when its a bitch to torque them properly so they stick well and don't strip the wood. I honestly do believe that 5 holes would weaken the board some what. And rat nuts were ridiculous always rattling loose and falling off. Same with tail bones . Shooting sparks out the tail hauling ass down the road at night was a hella blast though back in the day!

[@SkateWarehouse]

Oh man, you are bringing back memories!

[@titlecade]

I have these rails. They work great!

[@duncansmith2553]

i dont even have rails and im watching this video

[@vikingdemonpr]

I dont even have a skateboard

[@JesseNothing33]

@@vikingdemonpr LoL.

[@Cananalope]

What kind/size wheels on that deck?

[@J3RBA1TED]

JamKaret Spitfire F4s. They look like 52-53 to me

[@Cananalope]

gotcha

[@elinevdpoll3960]

I have pig rails too, but my screws won’t sick in. They stick out. I had enjoy rails before and they sunk in all the way

[@CWBchannel]

Pig skate rails are unfortunately known for having low quality hardware. I’ve had screws break/snap on me while trying to install. Bones / Santa Cruz are my go to for skate rails! My roommate uses enjoi skate rails and they seem to hold up well!

[@kellenwilson6178]

how is riding with one rail on transions and doing like rock and rolls and tricks were the board hits coping?

[@hunterlafountain6060]

From experience it's like the perfect medium, if you have two rails you'll be slipping out for a while before you get used to the extra slickness. If you're skeptical though, just leave the other in your car or bring that and a screw driver with you.

[@declanprojects123]

are you able to switch them to another board?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+declanprojects123 yep!

[@Tommyblueeyes]

my lord.

[@declanprojects123]

BAHAHA :-)

[@aidanwilkins8281]

Tommy Orr Jr is ur favorite word “My Lord”?

[@fernandogonzalez1168]

also i have seen that people put one rail instead of two does it makes a big difference?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+Gintoki People who skate one rail describe it as a gas pedal, put a little more weight on the rail and keep that slide going!

[@fernandogonzalez1168]

+Skate Warehouse and where should i place it if i'm goofy? in the left side? thanks for your help

[@SkateWarehouse]

Gintoki toe side!

[@jesserodriguez9207]

+Gintoki Yes, your left side, good luck!

[@billylondon2894]

Will there be a problem if your rails are long enough to go under the wheels?

[@SkateWarehouse]

Nope, shouldn't be an issue.

[@michaeldiamondturner]

Bro love the video! But please take the music off 😂

[@julianmarte1966]

I have mine a little farther in. I'd recommend for transition like pool coping for them to be father in.

[@jandebuyssere]

Do you ride with your axles this loose??

[@xboxone47]

what type of wheels are those pls tell me

[@SkateWarehouse]

+RANDY PARKS Spitfire Formula Four Conical! bit.ly/1huZxgl

[@maddoxmarinshaw1565]

Can someone help there space between the board and rail and I don’t know how to fix it

[@sk8trboi935]

I have the same problem, but all I can say is the rail is stiff and you didnt push them flush with the deck first or its just weird , but same thing that happened to me.

[@progressionskateboarding6001]

I got these and installed them but some of the screws didn't go as far in aa the other will it effect anything?

[@jimdor8353]

nope

[@supachopped1400]

I got some pig rails today and they won’t go flush with the board now I have a bunch of holes in my board

[@supachopped1400]

And this is not my first pair of rails I’m so confused why they won’t just stay in

[@sk8koa]

I got the pig rails too and I have the same problem. Even some of the screws came out. They are just a shit product

[@KillJoy_Since2017]

Awesome

[@b.o.bcomedy2847]

This might sound stupid but would rails stop the graphic being scratched as much?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+B.o.B Comedy If you use one on each side, yep!

[@Tommyblueeyes]

go and find someone that skated in the 80s, they will happily tell you stories about their boards for hours on end!

[@angusfraser6907]

What size board is the one in the video?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+Angus Fraser 8.5" !

[@ubreakitirepairit3569]

I'm working on a project with skate rails. Does anyone happen to know what kind of plastic skateboard deck rails are made of?

[@joshmcmuitrie4921]

Abs

[@druffskate4722]

Can you install rails on a longboard? My longboard has a kicktail. I have the Z-Flex Brand longboard with kicktail so I can hop on stuff.

[@SkateWarehouse]

Druff Skate I dont see why not!

[@cainadkins3985]

+Skate Warehouse i do what's the point

[@druffskate4722]

cain adkins whats the point of anything?

[@derekjdunaway1040]

+Druff Skate don't be a kook. Save ur money for new flip flops and pukka shells

[@ryanhingorani4019]

i got a 8.88 to put some rails on

[@SkateWarehouse]

Oh yeah!

[@dennydenny4341]

Do these help save the graphic?

[@arkius9545]

denny denny ye of course

[@vbsk8]

Dose it work with a slick deck

[@jacksonramsay1572]

Nice graphic on that board

[@SkateWarehouse]

Haha. Didn't want the graphic to take away from the presentation.

[@YanisFarBrook]

I just got mine and somehow I got the first on but the others won’t work. It feels like I am infinitely trying to screw it on the there and the screws just don’t stick. I have a Powell-Peralta flight deck if that helps.

[@jonmccormick8683]

Yanis Vb Use a drill with a very small drill bit (much smaller than the screw diameter) to make holes. Don’t drill thru the board. You can position the rail and use a marker to mark the holes you want to drill. Mark the drill bit with tape so you do n’t go so deep. If for some reason the screws are slipping use some wood glue.

[@coconutlarry]

I messed up on one of my rails and it's not straight. If I re screwed it back to where it needs to be, will it weaken the deck? Should I just leave it?

[@SkateWarehouse]

I'd re-install them straight if it bothers you. Another screw hole shouldn't make much of a difference.

[@cheesyrichard]

How are those used to protect graphics when the screws will just leave marks?

[@pauliewalnuts5241]

The screw holes are almost unnoticeable when the rails are removed, but you won't see them if the rails stay on anyway.

[@pastello76k]

Is it possible to cut the Rails if your Board is to small?

[@SkateWarehouse]

RollbrettFeilx I don't see why not!

[@josephrivas4762]

You'd probably be limited by the pre drilled holes but I suppose you can drill your own based on how you cut them

[@Warpath1337]

YungPastello likely to be destroyed eventually.

[@WillSkates]

Do Skate Rails improve your board slides or do they just make it so you can board slide lots of different things?

[@SkateWarehouse]

+WillSkates If by "improve" you mean increase distance and speed, then yes and yes!

[@WillSkates]

Thanks a lot appreciate that you actually reply to my comments because most people do not do that.

[@WillSkates]

+Skate Warehouse Also i just remember... Do they help your balance while you're board sliding because i usually lean too far forward or too far backwards and really hurt myself. If these help my balance i will be adding them to my cart! ;)

[@SkateWarehouse]

WillSkates the only tool for balance is practice!

[@WillSkates]

Ok i will have a lot of practise I'm probably gonna buy one of those rampage mini flat bar rails... Are they ok for board sliding?

[@BMW_DAILY]

Do they make it harder to snap it ? My boards always crack in the middle and if these will help it stay together better I might invest.

[@SkateWarehouse]

anthropologyable They may add a little extra strength. it will at least prevent your board from coming apart when it does break, but it's definitely not gonna stop it from breaking under harsh impact. Guys here that break a lot of boards swear by the impact and P2 decks.

[@olekmendoza6263]

How about the bushings

[@scottiewardle]

what taller rails do you recommend for steeper concave?

[@88scurtiss]

Bring the rails in more. Use a straight edge like a ruler or something and move them in until the center of the board just kisses the straight edge.

[@pauliewalnuts5241]

Powell Rib-Bones rails

[@scottiewardle]

@@pauliewalnuts5241 only 1cm way too low

[@arkius9545]

Do we need to drill holes first?

[@SkateWarehouse]

Nope. You just need to drill the screw in through the holes in the rails!

[@explosivcupcakes]

What’s the song?

[@Neurotv4941]

Im tryna screw them on but the rail is rising up and showing the screw

[@SkateWarehouse]

Put your weight into it. Gotta get the screw to catch.

[@randomrandooom]

anybody skate with the rail in the middle of the deck? how does that affect it, is it pretty much the same as putting one toe side? ive seen some people do that and ive been thinking of trying it on my next deck

[@SkateWarehouse]

seems silly...

[@TF-fj4lu]

my screw got fucked up and I can't get it out of the rail what can I do???

[@CarltonsDayzVids]

is it easier to skate cement

[@fishiextreme6928]

Depends on what you mean. You don't slip as much, but your fall will be harder. Also, if you have hard wheels you will slip around on wood

[@stpbasss3773]

Fishiextreme what lmao your fall will be harder because or rails? hahaha hahaha ok

[@matteoyang8635]

who made u put nailpolish on for the video

[@straightsavage2648]

xD

[@lexbeltran1354]

What do you think of Powell Rib Bones?

[@SkateWarehouse]

they GO

[@samkupper]

i use vision rails

[@jacobsmith3004]

+Skate Warehouse So you reckon they are all right?

[@samkupper]

Jacob Smith they are not bad

[@jacobsmith3004]

+sam kupper I like rib bones because you don't have to replace them too much cause of the height. I've skated my current set since June and they are still going strong.

[@olekmendoza6263]

Are the independents a pro model

[@SkateWarehouse]

nope, stage 11 standard

[@Semiloader]

Do they strengthen the board?

[@SkateWarehouse]

No.

[@Semiloader]

@@SkateWarehouse damn

[@desepairnei]

What is the reason to use this???

[@SS5SS5]

What size are the hardware screws?

[@jakeboulard8352]

TheSkreachxorchestra 1/2"

[@Eman7335]

What wheels are those?

[@duplaokx1172]

Eman7335 Spitfire formula 4 Mountain Pro Conical Full 99a Wheels I would guess the 56mm. :)

[@SkateWarehouse]

Duplaokx 117 Eman7335 yep!

[@duplaokx1172]

Skate Warehouse HaHa I actually copied it off your websit in another tab XD. I love you guys and the lime green swirl spitfire wheels are sick and I wanna get them with my next setup in August so please keep them until then if you can :) You guys are the BEST.

[@kdee868]

how about using double side 3M tape instead of screwing them? just an idea...

[@domo1453]

If you remove them will your board be fine will there be

[@nick-th6jb]

yes

[@jimdor8353]

more chance of cracking

[@conorashton9216]

Does screws stick out the other side of board

[@henrya1347]

No, they only go through 2-3 plys

[@martyd.451]

Haha surely you didn't think people rode around with the points of screws sticking through their boards.

[@theonewiththename5867]

I bought some and are just using them for decorative purposes on a powell peralta nordic skull deck i will be using as a cruiser

[@ItsBryson]

Poser much

[@theonewiththename5867]

@@ItsBryson virgin much

[@Corinthians-kjv]

If I buy some, how long will they last?

[@aidanwilkins8281]

Mark MacRae forever

[@aidanwilkins8281]

Seriously

[@zanearmstrong6776]

do you pre-drill holes, or nah

[@SkateWarehouse]

+W4R P1G the screws are short enough and self tapping, so nah

[@zanearmstrong6776]

alright, thanks man

[@Tommyblueeyes]

i used to use a marker pen, through the holes of the rail, then drill the mark.

[@kashmoose2478]

Ima get a 9.0 deck w em 😈

[@SkateWarehouse]

Do it!

[@iamlilpancho]

Can I put a used rail on a new deck ?

[@SkateWarehouse]

You can, but you'd be happier with a fresh one. www.skatewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?search=products#search=products&searchtext=rails&opt_page=1&opt_sort=alphaAtoZ&opt_perpage=20

[@ZackDowdy]

Absolutely! The only time you need new rails is if you've worn them down to where the screw holes are no longer deep (from slides). So need to buy more until then.

[@teamneverlost]

All 80's skate kids know ratnuts or sexbolts are proper way to install kit!

[@olekmendoza6263]

What trucks are these

[@danknaggs5200]

there independents

[@gorillaump5869]

Rails are back???

[@SkateWarehouse]

Been back!

[@LilCubGames]

does it make it crazy slippery so I can't do like down rails because I'm really light

[@SkateWarehouse]

+push skating forward It it quite a bit more slick, but the advantage of using only one is you can kind of control it by putting more/less weight on the edge of your board where the rail is. Kind of like a gas pedal for sticky coping/ledges/rails hahah

[@LilCubGames]

+Skate Warehouse thanks might have buy some because my park is always sticky

[@katho714]

Please someone tell me truth.. Is it falling of with this metod? Because i heard from some people that skate rails is crap, because it falls of and u will have only holes in deck

[@threeshuvs]

what wheels are those

[@SkateWarehouse]

Spitfire F4 Conical Full

[@AmuckPVP]

@Skate Warehouse What if you use Gorilla Glue & three C claps for a full day per rail instead of using screws for wood?

[@caseydingman558]

Where the hell are the rivet screws we used in the 80s ?

[@SkateWarehouse]

Good question!

[@bryzon559]

But why that background music?

[@SkateWarehouse]

Keeping it classy...

[@JoeFitzgerald21]

weary vs wary

[@spacecryptid1769]

We stopped using these shyts in the early 90s for a reason

[@SkateWarehouse]

What's the reason?

[@spacecryptid1769]

@@SkateWarehouse they seem to help if you yank out alot on rails other than that I just dont have a use for them

[@SidAlflatt]

How much heavier do they make your board

[@jacksongillan5749]

They are super light