Skating Bearings Test - What are the best bearing? junk, bionic, china, ceramic?

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Viktor Thorup

Viktor Thorup

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 146
@funwheels3307
@funwheels3307 3 жыл бұрын
There are good branded industrial bearings out there such as SKF or NMB from Japan. They are high quality and relatively inexpensive. Since Victor mentioned the roll resistance of all are about the same. The high cost of so called name brand bearings for skates aren’t justifiable. The industrial bearings with plastic shields 608RS type, you can take out the shield and clean the bearings more easily. You may want to experiment soaking these industrial bearings in thinner to remove the grease first and then soak them in car engine oil to lube the bearings. My friends and myself find this method work well. Some of the lubricants out there are too fluid and lose the smooth spinning property after a short while.
@hdrasjaya3990
@hdrasjaya3990 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, SKF & NMB made in Japan.
@mysticgamerz8933
@mysticgamerz8933 3 жыл бұрын
SKF is a really good brand for bearing
@shredfreak83
@shredfreak83 2 жыл бұрын
NTN 608 LLB is probably the best in terms of quality out there, LLU series for more resitance against weather & grime. ​ @Mystic Gamerz SKF 608 RZ works great. Only downside i can think of when using industrial grade bearings is that more often then not they won't have 16 in stock when it comes to 608's.
@baddan314
@baddan314 4 жыл бұрын
The chipest bearings I ever bought were ceramics... that might seem surprising as I paid them almost 200€. But I have them since 2012... and look and roll as new. I did the math : when I had steel bearings I had to change them frequently, they would have been much more expensive. The rain is the worst enemy of steel. I had bought 45€ bearings, at the first time out I skated on a single puddle and they were already squeaking. An other time I was doing a road trip by skates. My bearings were new, after skating 2 weeks of which 1 of rain, they were totally destroyed and were extremely loose. The ceramic ones beared worst without any problem and after 8 years including heavy rain, they are still as new
@eastclintwood7153
@eastclintwood7153 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt it bc there is the path of the balls that waers down over time from impacts.
@employer6290
@employer6290 3 жыл бұрын
did you clean your ceramic bearings since your purchase?
@baddan314
@baddan314 3 жыл бұрын
@@employer6290 yes, because the dirt prevents the balls to roll properly
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Ceramic are worse because of the different density between the races and ball bearings the bearings actually wear out quicker. You must have been using the cheapest steel bearings instead of something like bones reds because steel bearings are still the longest lasting and best value. Swiss bearings are for snobs and the pros😂😂😂
@baddan314
@baddan314 3 жыл бұрын
@@kenmastersmaster I've been using higher quality steel bearing than Bones Reds
@MrRubinsh
@MrRubinsh 3 жыл бұрын
Oldboy ceramic bearing cost about 45$. They are amazing. Super fast, and very durable. You don't have to break the bank to buy ceramic bearings
@-Anthracite
@-Anthracite 2 жыл бұрын
Amphetamine golds are about the same price range and even better since they use silicone nitride like bones while oldboys are made from zirconium dioxide
@shakalacka9836
@shakalacka9836 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Anthracite ceramic is better
@noblesaunders4484
@noblesaunders4484 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Anthracite can they be used for quad roller skates or are they for skateboards?
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 Жыл бұрын
I question when they say ceramic bearing as my experience in bikes makes me know in video is what is known as a semi ceramic bearing
@sk-sm9sh
@sk-sm9sh 3 ай бұрын
@@noblesaunders4484 yes, skateboard, inline, roller skates - they all are same bearing standard
@carnerageno
@carnerageno 8 ай бұрын
I've gone through a lot of bearings, Red's seem to be the most reliable @ an affordable cost and the ones with the largest amount of exposed axle so there is no rubbing on a bearing face plate.
@Eugene32852
@Eugene32852 9 ай бұрын
I think that cheap sealed bearings is the best option for 95% of inline skaters. I buy mines for 16€ per set at Decathlon and i roll in the rain, in the mud, in the dust and i don't give a single f*ck about it. Zero maintenance policy here and i roll 20km every week. Sorry for my english i'm french.
@seanfried5583
@seanfried5583 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the same Japanese KSK bearings in my quad speed skates for 40 years. They still spin great. Most of this stuff is hype to get you to spend your cash.
@HildeAzul
@HildeAzul 3 ай бұрын
This is so great! I will say that as a 40-year-old woman who used to skate between the ages of 12 to 17, mom, dad and the speed coaches used to get me what I needed (or tell my parent). I remember having Swiss bones bearing, but boy were they loud, even with the cleaning… Now, ABEC I know the term, always have but I don’t know what the score is. I’ve been starting to get back into sport and now there are too many choices for everything… such a hard time choosing my next set up.. I bought a pair of pretty inexpensive set up thinking like OK well they’re just cheaper maybe because they’re not leather and full carbon like the days on the Hustler and Sharkie etc….or frames are no longer hand made… I bought a less expensive ‘beginner’ set up from Bont and I’m sad that I am regretting my choice big time…
@9tachikomas
@9tachikomas Ай бұрын
Still have my old sharkies with mogema diamond series frames!
@HildeAzul
@HildeAzul Ай бұрын
@@9tachikomas Why don’t they make them like this anymore.. even the high end are pleather… aka ‘microfiber’ but the companies still call it leather.
@ToddBrooks-gm6hy
@ToddBrooks-gm6hy Күн бұрын
Mota boots and skates are great bang for the $. More comfortable than Bont black widows I used. Nettracing has them.
@HildeAzul
@HildeAzul Күн бұрын
@@ToddBrooks-gm6hy I forgot about the Black Widows!
@HildeAzul
@HildeAzul Күн бұрын
@@ToddBrooks-gm6hy Mota looks like Roller skates - for like dancers. I’m thinking inline speed skates!
@JackMott
@JackMott 2 жыл бұрын
Are you doing a spin test with the bearings under a realistic load or just spinning them freely?
@karazalim007
@karazalim007 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best Skater Viktor
@daxhunterjordan
@daxhunterjordan 21 күн бұрын
prefect analysis
@BorderlandTerriers
@BorderlandTerriers Жыл бұрын
Biggest difference I noticed on wood floors is the ABEC 7's with 90A wheels roll smoother. The ABEC 5's feel like your stuck in the mud with 90A wheels so you have to have 93A wheels or harder but the wheels don't grip good on the floor slip alot.
@jimmytgoose476
@jimmytgoose476 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ZteveW
@ZteveW 2 жыл бұрын
Rollerbones make an affordable set and 16 come in a pack. Any thoughts about the life of the bearings?
@lovevolam
@lovevolam 4 ай бұрын
Hi Viktor What is the different between between 6 balls vs 7 balls vs 8 balls? Like if you join a race 1km - 2km what is the best fit ?
@bunnykarthik2568
@bunnykarthik2568 4 жыл бұрын
How the bearings can be cleaned and please can you make videos on quad skate bearings
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
Already made a video for you ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOomYGjg9lmY9E
@anas7hamed
@anas7hamed 2 жыл бұрын
I have two questions: 1- Do you recommend using an ultrasonic cleaner? 2- is it safe to use acetone on the white-bearing ball holder (the white plastic that holds the balls)?
@bestamerica
@bestamerica Жыл бұрын
hi A 7... ' better use a WD-40 spray to clean greasey out with paper towel... then spin spin again until clean fresh ball bearing... dontneed add grease again. one drop of 3-1 oil then spin again until smooth run
@christopherfinn5425
@christopherfinn5425 Жыл бұрын
FAFNIR 7mm are the best roller skate bearings ever made. Good luck finding them. They stopped making them in the 70s
@alvaroacosta8819
@alvaroacosta8819 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome !!! Good luck with the new team #Mestre
@VisualistAyush07
@VisualistAyush07 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video As Always
@BLVCKSEA
@BLVCKSEA Жыл бұрын
Never heard of any of these bearings. I currently ride Bronson G3's and I pop the shields. G3's usually retail for 30 bucks..but ive been able to find sets at around 16 bucks on sale online. Best bang for your buck. Never had a problem with them, and I always get a new set whenever i get new wheels which Is around every 2-3 months.
@robpracht9303
@robpracht9303 2 жыл бұрын
I am using SKF machine bearings for years now. They do cost a bit...but the thing are used in factorie machine that roll 24 hours a day....I will never go back to all those fancy brands that call them selfes rollerskate bearing specialist.. Use SKF or FAG bearings and your bearings last a lifetime...
@santanukundu1817
@santanukundu1817 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Should we use lubricant? If yes what is the grade? Should we practice with ABEC 11 or leaser grade?
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
ABEC 7 will easily be sufficient for skating :) here’s my video on bearings cleaning and maintenance: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOomYGjg9lmY9E
@bengunn07
@bengunn07 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you just explained in the video how ABEC rating means next to nothing in skate bearings.
@MetroWord
@MetroWord 3 жыл бұрын
@@bengunn07 I don't think the rating means much at all for skating. I've seen an engineer somewhere on YT explain why. The differences are miniscule and skating normal use lowers the ABEC.
@ayisharwadhwa4936
@ayisharwadhwa4936 2 жыл бұрын
Hi What are micro bearings? What's the difference between micro and ceramic bearings. Thanks
@manojchanchlani56
@manojchanchlani56 3 жыл бұрын
1)Shaman Elite 6ix Ceramic + Black Titanium bearing 2) BONES® SWISS CERAMIC BEARING 3) BIONIC CERAMIC BEARINGS Which of them is the fastest bearing and has more spinning time ??
@3amfridgeraider672
@3amfridgeraider672 3 жыл бұрын
I have one question . Is ILQ 9 equal to ABEC 9? Same speed just different names?
@kielerkarl
@kielerkarl 3 жыл бұрын
I think only difference is that ILQ 9 uses 6 balls and ABEC 9 uses 7 balls per bearing.
@PhilipReese
@PhilipReese 3 жыл бұрын
Decent video, but wrong about the bearing covers. Those red covers are rubber seals, which are also used on good bearings, to make servicing them easy (great if you're using speed oil and need to service them frequently). 608 ZZ are non-serviceable and is typical for cheapo bearings on cheap skates. But either serviceable or non-serviceable are used on both high end and low end bearings. The reason the China bearing have rubber seals is because they are imitating Bones Reds bearings.
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction! :)
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
All the bones bearings are all fake on the internet. It's kind of insane. They still work well and fool most people who don't know what to look for
@jairoquintero26
@jairoquintero26 3 жыл бұрын
Which is the best ceramic bearings ?
@bennos9604
@bennos9604 3 жыл бұрын
bones swiss
@mikethomas4628
@mikethomas4628 3 жыл бұрын
@Bennos they are good and I also like super reds too.
@nerdinvader6740
@nerdinvader6740 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikethomas4628 they are good for speed skates? Those look good too but i was wondering
@Theoneandonlymax
@Theoneandonlymax 2 жыл бұрын
Quantom bearings atoms
@Inlinespeedskater
@Inlinespeedskater 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! We appreciate the awesome content. Keep up the great work!
@mekkuper6746
@mekkuper6746 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Viktor. Where are you from? We are blessed to have you, especially the audience from small countries where teachers like you do not exist. I want to thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. Also I'd like to ask, are you planning on organizing a camp for teaching possible people who are interested in what you do. I just bought a 3x3 125mm skates, and I realized that it will take much more time to even learn how to skate on it (I used to skate on the regular skates with a much less mm). This transition is huge, but I belive I'll make it at some point.
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mek! This is really awesome to hear :) I've previously arranged that, and would love to do more! Can you reach out to me on viktor.thorup@gmail.com and we can discuss further :) Best of luck with the 125's! That's a tough start, but that's just a matter of hours in the skates.
@eliseerollerskater5057
@eliseerollerskater5057 3 жыл бұрын
That’s why I like you brother, thank you 🙏🏻, when are you going to have a training session in person workshop ?
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
Spring 2022
@indigoglooracleandmore5253
@indigoglooracleandmore5253 3 жыл бұрын
What about Reds bones bearings???
@jonathanschilling9451
@jonathanschilling9451 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the Junk bearings in your video?
@ezhumalais-wb6on
@ezhumalais-wb6on 8 ай бұрын
Is there any abec 11 bearing ,i see online fancy skates,its true or fake pls give us your suggestions.
@skateata1
@skateata1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The only reason I would ever look into ceramic is so I don't have to worry about rust
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Why would they rust. Use grease instead of lubricant
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@unknownbostonian you won't get much dirt if you run metal shields and you can clean them if they get really dirty. Still better trade off then buying overpriced ceramic bearings
@jimmytgoose476
@jimmytgoose476 Жыл бұрын
Stay out of water = no rust, ever .
@illegal7687
@illegal7687 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work sir big fan & ur great
@lydellemartin6594
@lydellemartin6594 9 ай бұрын
Why wasn’t Rollerbones Reds bearings or Super Reds in this comparison?
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 9 ай бұрын
Didn't have any at the time.. Guess I'll have to do a 2.0 🙂
@bmacadody9447
@bmacadody9447 3 жыл бұрын
I got the bionic bearings and they come at the bottle of oil a very small bottle mind you yet to test them I've already got wicked bearings on my skates already I don't know if it's the wheels or the bearings but they Glide like ice skates
@thee_18
@thee_18 4 жыл бұрын
hey hi, is 5 ball bearing better thn 7 ball ? does it even have any difference? i’ve had people coming to me saying 5 ball bearings are faster but has less life time... and thn what do u think abt the takino’s 608Z RACING TITANIUM BEARING and takino’s ulteralight bearings? are they worth buying ? and one last question... what bearings do you use for races .. 😁
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Theepan! 5 ball bearings will not be any better than 7 ball for inline skating. We sadly haven't had a chance to test the Takino brand. If the ultralight model is remarkably lighter, but as efficient as competitors, that could be interesting. I have used nothing but Bionic Swiss for the last years. They're reliable and smooth :) topskate.dk/en/collections/accessories/products/bionic-swiss-bearings
@thee_18
@thee_18 4 жыл бұрын
@@thorupviktor thank you ... 😊
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 Жыл бұрын
I heard depends on brand as some brands 5 can be as good as others 7 I hope someone compares as wonder on titanium vs full ceramic on how long they last (not hybrid or semi ceramic like in video)
@officiallyfussy
@officiallyfussy Жыл бұрын
you saved me $60 with your excellent video. Thanks!
@Theoneandonlymax
@Theoneandonlymax 2 жыл бұрын
Hi did you hear about quantum bearings?
@abhilahgadipudi5024
@abhilahgadipudi5024 3 жыл бұрын
Can you suggest a good bearings for the races
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
Yes :) topskate.dk/en/collections/accessories/products/bionic-swiss-bearings
@rileywade8182
@rileywade8182 3 жыл бұрын
Hello I have some roller skate wheels called street hub I think and are red faded into a darker red do u have any idea how much they’re worthy
@PeterKoperdan
@PeterKoperdan 3 жыл бұрын
How exactly did you test durability and speed? It seems like you are simply stating your personal opinions without any well designed testing..
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
I am. Nothing but personal experience and some downhill roll tests.
@skateata1
@skateata1 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using Reds for years but I get tired of cleaning them. I'm thinking of getting ceramic so I don't have to worry about rust.
@bob3351
@bob3351 3 жыл бұрын
Look into bronsons
@dannyboy8518
@dannyboy8518 4 жыл бұрын
but dont u think we can buy 4 or more new sets of unnamed ones in the price of a single set of branded ones.
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
It should be possible to buy more than 10 sets of no-name bearings for the price of a single set. Once that's said, I would still go for some of the "known" brands. They're approved, tested and thus way more reliable. My personal experience says that you might end up with 15-bearings sets or have them fall to pieces that first time you're taking them out of your wheels :)
@dannyboy8518
@dannyboy8518 4 жыл бұрын
@@thorupviktor oh thanks for the expert advice sir
@loguyazhini1231
@loguyazhini1231 2 жыл бұрын
Haii sir takino bearing speed oil pls suggest
@greg6162
@greg6162 3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting back into in-line skating… wanted twisted edge x but they’re sold out. I got Rollerblade Macroblade 80 with ABT brake system. They have SG5 bearings and I want to upgrade from 80mm to a 84mm wheel something a little harder and more durable like 84mm Hydrogen or Supremes. What would be the best bearings for those wheels.. also IPQ7 SG9 or ABEC-9?
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
I've personally had good experiences with IPQ7 and ABEC-9
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
I think you mean ilq7. Anyway your first mistake was buying Marco blades.. They are so terrible compared to twisters.
@mlee6050
@mlee6050 Жыл бұрын
@@kenmastersmaster go me, I am buying the Marcoblade when can but so not waste too much so got plenty still saved so after practice go to the seda high light carbon pro with endless frames and yet to pick wheels and bearings
@Avalentica
@Avalentica 4 жыл бұрын
How come you don't show these videos on your website?
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 4 жыл бұрын
This channel simply has a bigger reach and more views :)
@spinbytre
@spinbytre 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get a 7mm or 8mm bearing for a 57mm wheel ?
@MetroWord
@MetroWord 3 жыл бұрын
8mm is by far most common. The size you get is based on axle size of the plate on your skates. Look up your plate to see your size.
@bridgetmasisie3211
@bridgetmasisie3211 2 жыл бұрын
Do I have to use washers with my beartings
@kikiw.5746
@kikiw.5746 2 жыл бұрын
You'll need a spacer between the bearings, yes.
@austingaddy6540
@austingaddy6540 2 жыл бұрын
Bone swiss? Or redds?
@optimusvader7823
@optimusvader7823 2 жыл бұрын
What are the Best ceramic Bearings for their price ?
@hadleymanmusic
@hadleymanmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Any type without plastic cages?
@singerfromhell666
@singerfromhell666 3 ай бұрын
Dude.. i saw them compared many times.. ceramic does spin a LOT longer.. abec 9 can run for around 59 seconds. Ceramic can be up to a minute longer..
@porselviporselvi8489
@porselviporselvi8489 Жыл бұрын
which is a best bearing in the world
@Tinnntin
@Tinnntin 2 жыл бұрын
A skate company buys these bearings from China by the thousands for a few cents per bearing.They stamp a brand on the seal and you can pay ten times that...it's all rubbish and very very bad quality If you want to have good bearings you have to buy bearings that are used in the industry, which are used to run machines, pumps etc 24/7. Brands such as SKF, NSK, FAG etc.
@buffaloman5042
@buffaloman5042 3 жыл бұрын
Need a roll test with weight
@hokuimoimo
@hokuimoimo 4 жыл бұрын
Moto swiss OR Atom swiss?
@rrjf432
@rrjf432 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Thank you for this bearings guide you did some great research. I was curious if you ever tried hartford gold bearings
@pedro.mongol
@pedro.mongol 3 жыл бұрын
N 2 probably the best
@illegal7687
@illegal7687 2 жыл бұрын
Love from india ❤️
@Shehasasmile
@Shehasasmile 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love if you maybe included more of the popular brands of bearings to compare. Such as KWIK, Reds, Cheezeballs, MOTO, etc. I've been finding it hard to find much info on what bearing you should buy. Loved this video!
@DanteSpec
@DanteSpec 3 жыл бұрын
Just get reds, you wont regret it.
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏 I’ll make sure to do an expanded edit, if I can get my hands on more of those major brands :)
@mr.s1961
@mr.s1961 3 жыл бұрын
Best is roll line SPEED MAX bearing. like the old fafnir bearings of the 80s, but a lot less cost
@hdrasjaya3990
@hdrasjaya3990 3 жыл бұрын
Fafnir 👍
@andyhlawnchhing8337
@andyhlawnchhing8337 3 жыл бұрын
Why still no big bearings arn't invented. Big wheels are created and do the job. But they stilk have so limited ability is because the bearings are still the same small typical ones. So nomatter how big the wheels it ll always be the same. What we needed in this century is big Bearings. Dude take my words create big Bearings and you are going to be famous.Do it... 💪👍👍👍
@chris2crazzy
@chris2crazzy 3 жыл бұрын
Them covers restrict the spin
@kenmastersmaster
@kenmastersmaster 3 жыл бұрын
I run 10 cent Chinese bearings with nylon retainers and bones speed cream and they are as fast as $100 bearings facts you're just paying for fancy packaging and marketing
@ryarbrough1000
@ryarbrough1000 20 күн бұрын
False, there are bearings that roll more smoothly and faster than others. I've been skating for over 20 years, so I know for sure!
@shakalacka9836
@shakalacka9836 3 жыл бұрын
0:40 "full ceramic bearing" yeah that's not full ceramic at all sorry a full ceramic bearing the balls and track are all ceramic
@Wizaris84
@Wizaris84 2 жыл бұрын
True. They are hybrid ceramic/steel.
@TorontosFinestKrew
@TorontosFinestKrew 3 жыл бұрын
My nikkor Viktor
@DRB-Octane
@DRB-Octane 2 жыл бұрын
dude, ppl wanna waste money lol, learning by experience is expensive... i tried even turbocharger bearings in my inline Tarmac CEs...
@Teejworld_
@Teejworld_ 3 жыл бұрын
Abec 9 roll faster than 5 or 7
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
not necessarily
@SpeedSkatingMotivation
@SpeedSkatingMotivation 3 жыл бұрын
😻😻❤️❤️
@potatostomatoes4599
@potatostomatoes4599 2 жыл бұрын
Or just buy bones reds for like $30 or less 🤷‍♂️
@kevinkyzer2758
@kevinkyzer2758 2 жыл бұрын
Just tell people to get the ceramic
@drleishaobo
@drleishaobo 3 жыл бұрын
China makes the best bearings and the worst bearings, if you pay a crappy price, you will get a crappy bearing.
@thatsmyboylerd8861
@thatsmyboylerd8861 2 жыл бұрын
Just buy $20 red bearings
@jimmytgoose476
@jimmytgoose476 Жыл бұрын
Weight ? Of a bearing ?!! Gtf 🤣 And that's not a full ceramic bearing . Next .
@jessiecassio8349
@jessiecassio8349 3 жыл бұрын
All bearings are made in China unless they're $300 Swiss bearings. Bearings that claim to be Swiss but only cost $60 bucks are Swiss rated and still outsourced What you want is a nylon retainer and speed cream, instead of grease to get fast bearings, even $20 bones will last forever They will all pretty much last a long time except 10 cent Amazon bearings because they're all factory rejects
@dneck
@dneck 3 жыл бұрын
seemed pretty unscientific and just generalized sharing of opinions
@thorupviktor
@thorupviktor 3 жыл бұрын
It is.
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