Skaven Lord Tierlist by Lore-Strength!

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@NekoboyBlue
@NekoboyBlue Жыл бұрын
In regards to the First Skaven Civil War (Council of 13 vs Clan Pestilens) it was essentially a 400 year stalemate that was only broken cause Clan Eshin returned from the east and started assassinating various leaders aligned with Clan Pestilens. Even then Clan Pestilens just basically went "Fine, truce-truce. We'll settle for a seat on the council" and then proceeded to take said seat by walking into Skavenblight (surviving multiple assassination attempts along the way) and murder-biting the weakest councilmember. Just imagine some guy covered in shit/pus/vomit/flies walks into a board room, chomps the neck of the dude closest to the door, sits on his corpse, drops a box of donuts on the table and then asks "So what are we doing next quarter?". You've been trying to get rid of this dude for like 500+ years and now this is your everyday life. What's worse you're pretty sure he's gonna ask to borrow a pen and you know you'll NEVER see that thing again.
@thenethralking6032
@thenethralking6032 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing, if he even offered to give the pen back…would you want it back?
@shawnfoogle920
@shawnfoogle920 Жыл бұрын
only broken cuuz da nukes. lore is cringe tho and i could care less
@inwit594
@inwit594 8 ай бұрын
@@shawnfoogle920 Nobody asked what you care about, brah. Lore is objectively awesome and that's an objectively correct opinion.
@Lewis434
@Lewis434 Жыл бұрын
Skrolk should really have a Mortis engine effect as an active skill.
@Debilinside
@Debilinside Жыл бұрын
Agreed. He is strong due his campaign effect and magic, but not that strong in combat.
@Shrade-0
@Shrade-0 Жыл бұрын
It's really bizarre that he doesn't
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 Жыл бұрын
Pestilens in general is kinda underbaked in game 3. Plague monks need to either be brought down to tier 2 and 3 for censer bearers or made significantly more powerful. Skrolk should also probably be a fair bit tougher and do more damage in melee.
@pdthepowerdragon5412
@pdthepowerdragon5412 Жыл бұрын
So Ikit is actually a wizard. Most of the lore around how he’s got magical power is that he uses devices as an excuse because non-grey seer casting is heresy. He’s stolen and robbed magical secrets from the Lizardmen, high elves, and a lot of mankind and as a result learned how to control magic.
@pdthepowerdragon5412
@pdthepowerdragon5412 Жыл бұрын
Also Clan Pestilens got their seat on the council because Eshin returned and proceeded to do loads of assassinations. As a result more and more Skaven started to turn back from their allegiance and so Nurglitch showed up with a load of bio weapons and threatened them to get a seat.
@trillaco1
@trillaco1 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly (I'm talking 3rd edition here) Ikit not only is a wizard but one the most powerful in existence, one of the only 3 level 5 casters in the game along with teclis and nagash, and the only one in the game who could pick his spells from all the lores of magic
@acmaiden5236
@acmaiden5236 Жыл бұрын
@@trillaco1 That sounds... so wrong lol
@brandonlyon730
@brandonlyon730 11 ай бұрын
If I recall about 80% of all Skaven in the Hell Pit are directly related to Throt so he’s made great use of that long life he has and the warpstone steroid stamina.
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage Жыл бұрын
Clan Pestilens: Pathologists Clan Moulder: Biologists Clan Skryre: Nuts.
@inwit594
@inwit594 8 ай бұрын
I think Moulder are more like really amazing selective breeders combined with some of the most inhumane and invasive surgeons in existence.
@somnius2519
@somnius2519 Жыл бұрын
Skrolk really looks at bombastic and destructive displays of Warp Lightning and other tricks and cantrips of the Grey Seers and Warlock Engineers and just shrugs, countering it all with "Hocus-pocus, you now have late-stage tuberculosis." Or "I wish you a very merry dysentery."
@dusty0559
@dusty0559 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, when I think of which Skaven I would want to watch my back in a dark alley, I wonder why Tretch is coming in last. Probably because he's the one that would stab me in the back, whether I asked him to be there or not.
@skreechverminking2227
@skreechverminking2227 Жыл бұрын
About lord skrolk not taking the whole world for him. Remember theere is an even bigger rat in clan pestilence. The clans lord of decay was the reason for why skrolk lost his eyes. Apparently skrolk saw the pestilential aura of his master ones and couldn’t stand it, ripping his eyes out of his skull
@grimnir8872
@grimnir8872 Жыл бұрын
Throt hasn't died because he's basically stolen a Troll's regenerative ability, the guy is also one of the oldest Skaven to exist for this reason, the guy is a patchwork horror and if I recall he has Strength 5 in the army books, which for a Skaven is fucking huge.
@sonofthebearking3335
@sonofthebearking3335 Жыл бұрын
Queek was raised on a steady diet of assassins though. Stealth is something Queek doesn't have much issue with, for multiple reasons, and that is Sniktch's whole advantage negated. Take that away and Sniktch can't/won't fight Queek: Queek wins.
@legacyandrews1339
@legacyandrews1339 Ай бұрын
And he can't be assassinated or snuck up on as long as there are skulls in his area or on his trophy rack
@JCPoetry_Philosophy
@JCPoetry_Philosophy Жыл бұрын
Woah, heavily underestimated Skrolk!! Imagined him to be a one dimensional caricature of a zealot rat. But his abilities are BUSTED!!
@UnwordlyAcorn
@UnwordlyAcorn Жыл бұрын
Snikich murdered a Skaven Warlord, and his 100 Stormvermin Guard, placing the Warlord's head neatly ontop of the pile of their skulls; Thanqoul soiled himself at the mere sight of him after he darted from person to person butchering his entire bodyguard in a blur of movement; my favorite mini-story is probatly the one featuring him assassinating the Celestial-Wizard guy: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJitdIiioNqIa7ssi=SnTxBPQfMc5nzTGk&t=338 Thor'grim having lost two sons and daughter to his blades added him to the book of grudges not under his name because he did not know it, but as Gorakthag-throk: "murder-daemon of darkness" You sort of forgot, and many people do that Snikich has warpstone-throwing stars (idk why they arent ingame because generic eshen lords have them lol) aswell as the Bands of Power (Metal Vambraces with Warpstone-shards (pretty much same as Queek's armor but minaturized, that are ingame and on his arms but not an item for some reason that bestows him with superhuman-strength); but yeah he isnt realy getting close to Skrolk without catching any deadly diseases; he would probatly body Queek even 1v1 however. Queek personality wise is still better, as is Thanqoul; but they arent going to do much to Snikich power-scale wise; Queek could never see Snikich coming owed to the Cloak of Shadows that "magicaly conceals the wearer perfectly"
@HumanBoyYesYes
@HumanBoyYesYes Жыл бұрын
super fair, I think your arguments are good to get snitch way ahead in 2nd, but skrolk is just BROKEN in the lore
@tovarvonbrandt7157
@tovarvonbrandt7157 Жыл бұрын
I love the skaven, they are the friendliest race in game.
@rowanlau1651
@rowanlau1651 Жыл бұрын
i mean, if we're talking skaven lore generally not just the ones in total war, probably skreetch verminking would be the number 1, followed by a couple of the other verminlords. Hope we get to see some big boi rat greater deamons in game at some point
@loveluclins
@loveluclins Жыл бұрын
New factions. Deamons of horned rat.
@will9501
@will9501 Жыл бұрын
I am very excited for the follow up multiplayer campaign where you, Tactical Lich, and other buds play as skaven LL's and proceed to be most honorable in your dealings with each other...
@hotfierypotato2216
@hotfierypotato2216 Жыл бұрын
That would be very fun to watch on stream.
@consolescrub4031
@consolescrub4031 Жыл бұрын
I feel like of the individuals on this list, only the Deathmaster or Ikit could really have any chance of killing Skrolk and that's by playing to their strengths with sabotage (perhaps just a massive amount of fire bombs like the empire port) or a superweapon which means they don't have to get close. That's also assuming Skrolk doesn't just manage to plague them anyway as plague magic in lore seems to have no particular concern for line of sight. In a straight fight against anyone on this list he just wins, if memory serves his Censer oneshot a Carnosaur in lore before (Rip Grimlock) so while some of the faster melee fighters on the list might avoid it for a while, they're going to have a bad time if they get hit and his aura just has to slow them down enough to get smashed.
@rustycrowbar4250
@rustycrowbar4250 Жыл бұрын
Snikich would easliy kill skrolk even if he died later from the effects of plauge. Even better if he was provided woth amulets protecting him from the plauge which is a even nightlord could easly get for snikich
@consolescrub4031
@consolescrub4031 Жыл бұрын
@@rustycrowbar4250 I'm a fan of the Deathmaster personally but I don't think I would go so far to call a victory against Skrolk easy. He's very good in a fight and possibly the best assassin in fantasy (Oxyotyl could probably contest the title) but assassination is something most skaven prepare against and Skrolk has hacks which make him better suited at it than most (keep in mind that any skaven who looked like they could be easily assassinated would have been dead years ago just as a matter of principle). I'm also curious if the weeping blade poison would actually kill him given incredible survivability especially against toxins and disease is kind of a staple for nurgle aligned forces. I'm also unclear on how the amulets function and if they're effective against Skrolk's book. It's all well and good to try fight Skrolk with an amulet warding off plague until he uses the voodoo book to simultaneously give you whooping cough, smallpox, tuberculosis, malaria and gangrene along with aids for good measure. I think it's worth noting that Skrolk is the only one on the list beyond maybe Ikit who is likely to get a kill post mortem although without something to protect against the plague I don't think he's dying first. (If memory serves, one of those basically instantly killed a carnosaur in the times we don't speak of) Snikich's style is slow, patient and cautious until the moment comes but Skrolk has magic which can strike at a far longer range and can't be snuck up on anywhere near as easily. He passively kills you by proximity but if he gets a plague ritual going against you, he could be sending diseases from across Skavenblight which you might not notice before it's too late.
@basab1063
@basab1063 Жыл бұрын
I actually think i dont want a skaven to watch my back in a dark alley at night
@sonofthebearking3335
@sonofthebearking3335 Жыл бұрын
Yup lol 😂 I'd really only consider Queek since he hates lies and backstabbing, but perhaps if Sniktch had a contract to protect you he couuuuld maybe be reliable. Big shrug.
@HurdyTheMoogle
@HurdyTheMoogle Жыл бұрын
Throt also was given a chaos warriors brain by Archeon and put it in a rat ogre, thats pretty cool 🤷‍♂️
@swisspikeman2400
@swisspikeman2400 Жыл бұрын
"Tanquol chokes " Idk I would too if I had Gotrek breathing down my deck
@sonofthebearking3335
@sonofthebearking3335 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 😂
@ggghbgjytgt
@ggghbgjytgt 4 ай бұрын
As a counterpoint, Thanquol has about zero wins despite always having the advantage at the start.
@hankcyrus9776
@hankcyrus9776 Жыл бұрын
Since snikitch killed randomly everybody the writers wanted killed I thought he would be first with skrollk second, they are by far the best two though
@nmmeswey3584
@nmmeswey3584 Жыл бұрын
it'd be cool if censor bearers + skrolk also had a mortis engine/ applied that globe poison to whoever they were fighting
@CrazyYanmega
@CrazyYanmega Жыл бұрын
I wanna see more of these! Lizardmen and Empire especially.
@RRRRRRRRR33
@RRRRRRRRR33 Жыл бұрын
Mazdamundi is a easy pick for the lizardmen, his magic is crazy strong. Now for the empire, who knows, there's so many characters and lots of fanservice (even to this day I don't understand their supposed appeal. Humanity in 40k does look cool and over the top, but humans in Fantasy looks boring)
@vargknight
@vargknight Жыл бұрын
Ikit literally leads a team that blows up the Black Pyramid of Nagash in the End Times, essentially stopping him from being even more powerful than the Chaos Gods, but sure, he's shit.....
@HumanBoyYesYes
@HumanBoyYesYes Жыл бұрын
end times writing is.... not ideal. it makes everyone wildly different
@hoked2194
@hoked2194 Жыл бұрын
What makes Ikit important is intelligence, not raw power. While he is strong, his real power is that he's a mega-genius with access to insane technology. He's basically the Skaven Iron Man (or Iron Rat).
@raunleashed1604
@raunleashed1604 Жыл бұрын
Love the lore videos sir. Thank you for the content
@BH.888
@BH.888 Жыл бұрын
my 1st campaign (and completed campaign) in any total war game was Skrolk. Love from first clawed-out sight
@Handsomepotato1
@Handsomepotato1 Жыл бұрын
more of these vids, I love em!
@SVP-uy9qb
@SVP-uy9qb 4 ай бұрын
I think of Tretch as the ultimate backstabber, he's just really good at being a rat with ambushing and misleading being his strongest weapons
@Butcherbird9
@Butcherbird9 Жыл бұрын
Nobody knows why Tretch exists and nobody knows why Ghorst was introduced.
@acmaiden5236
@acmaiden5236 Жыл бұрын
Had no idea Skrolk was such a monster 😅 Expected Snikich to be #1
@olaf9999
@olaf9999 Жыл бұрын
Saying Clan Pestilens could just beat the Lizardmen seems extremely disrespectful to my boy Tehenhuain
@Amalvipls
@Amalvipls Жыл бұрын
I think tretch was put in the game precisely to have the weakest possible character available. Its good to have a "challenge" option and there are many people who tremendously enjoy just seeing dogshit underdogs suceed over much stronger opponents
@shorewall
@shorewall Жыл бұрын
Tretch is my favorite Skaven LL, because he isn't good at anything. Everyone else is special, or talented. Come on, how Skaven is that? :D Tretch is my ideal skaven.
@sonofthebearking3335
@sonofthebearking3335 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed using Tretch to underdog punish the dark elves once; watching his stormvermin just eat darkspears with +15 melee attack in an uphill battle as if they were a regiment of hero units was a sight to see.
@Neco-Arc-Enjoyer
@Neco-Arc-Enjoyer Жыл бұрын
ikit claw in 6th hurts my soul
@chadthedad03
@chadthedad03 Жыл бұрын
Instant AIDS FTW.😂
@looming_
@looming_ Жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@skywillfindyou
@skywillfindyou Жыл бұрын
13:30 Answer is simple. To any unnatural power, be it Sniktch's speedm agility and poison or Skrolk's deseases and plague, there are other unntural powers and magic. So another legendary character protects himself with magic from this magic and get unnatural power to overcome these things. Skrolk isn't the only one to be able to point at someone and get him wrekt with magic, I bet many mages can do that. I bet Sienna can come, point at him and he'll burn in cleansing fire.
@powerchoke1
@powerchoke1 7 ай бұрын
Skreech Verminking, who probably also will be added at somepoint will top this list. Just by the fact that he is a Verminlord and therefore the Skaven equivalent to a greater daemon.
@looming_
@looming_ Жыл бұрын
Regiment of renown edition series maybe?
@edwingibson7
@edwingibson7 Жыл бұрын
Nice. a Great Lore Inspired video. :D thanks for the enjoyable video. Would you be interested in doing more like this. but for other factions? :)
@winterwolf1250
@winterwolf1250 Жыл бұрын
Who is your favorite skaven legendary and why is it Queek Headtaker? XD
@HumanBoyYesYes
@HumanBoyYesYes Жыл бұрын
is queek and because theres an hour long lore video for him next week
@rockgodwannabe
@rockgodwannabe Жыл бұрын
love the plague guys. like storm vermin in the game are better to have cause you just want line holders in the late game and they have better armor and shields but in skaven slayer plauge monks were the only line troops to almost beat gotrek(although be it via being under a frenzy spell)
@menatymca
@menatymca Жыл бұрын
damn i learned a lot here, great vid
@giorgaras1851
@giorgaras1851 Ай бұрын
Ikit blew up the moon. Did any other skaven blew up anything this big? He also was the one who killed schrolk in the end times ( by accident, but that still counts ).
@enryu8019
@enryu8019 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos like this
@DipMyWing
@DipMyWing Жыл бұрын
MOAAAAAR LORE!!!!!
@Glaceonics
@Glaceonics Жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, While I believe places 2 and 3 are rather interchangeable, I'd personally put Queek above Deathmaster. Mainly because these should be accounted for 'Head to Head' not 'Assassin does assassin things. Therefor he beats Queek if not seen.' Maybe 8/10 times Deathmaster beats Queek if we take that into account but throw them both into an Arena, I'm fairly certain Queek comes out on top due to his experience, feats and well, his armor compared to Deathmaster. It's really ANYONES game but I think placing him above Queek is highballing him a littttttle much but like I said either can take the others spot.
@Butcherbird9
@Butcherbird9 Жыл бұрын
I do think Thanquol deserves 3rd. Yeah he does choke, but it’s lore STRENGTH, not lore effectiveness. He definitely chokes, but he’s undeniably nonetheless extremely powerful.
@darwin7979
@darwin7979 Жыл бұрын
tretch is so bbg i love
@mateuszpawowski94
@mateuszpawowski94 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what do you think about the information in the lutria source book to the whfr 4ed
@jjb69321
@jjb69321 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! 👌
@AshtonAmos-r9q
@AshtonAmos-r9q Ай бұрын
Love rat lords, good faction characters yes-yes
@dariusjonna
@dariusjonna 3 ай бұрын
It is staggering how into rats you are.
@G1ingy
@G1ingy 10 ай бұрын
What about generic characters? Would a generic warlord be able to take on Tretch?
@HumanBoyYesYes
@HumanBoyYesYes 10 ай бұрын
1v1 yes if they were forced to fight. Tretch would win if he could surrender, then stalk the warlord and kill him when hes not looking
@JbMuz
@JbMuz Жыл бұрын
Respect for Clan Pestilens, wish they were better represented in game.
@ufrickto
@ufrickto 6 ай бұрын
Why skrolk did not conquer Lustria? N A K A I
@nailigniststarzear6689
@nailigniststarzear6689 Жыл бұрын
Skrolk can probably one hit kill any other LL.... just being near him is already risk of death Deathmaster can kill any Skaven... He probably can put Skrolk down to with right tool but in his normal gear... either him die or both die The unclean have super regen...as good as troll... He can grind anyone that can't kill him fast enough down in time Ikit by his standard gear(if we talk about all thing he invent too He is surely most destructive) ... while strong....is not enough to take on top3 Queek is one of strongest pure warrior skaven for sure Craventail is not even reach fucking warlord rank...
@shawnfoogle920
@shawnfoogle920 Жыл бұрын
i hate useless pointless lore. soo all lore. i wish games would just focus on the game and not literally pay people to type up nonsense lore. i would rather alot less lore or back story budget and just put the $$ in the game. and it goes for all games. same with skins or cosmetics. but at least those have somewhat of a purpose. lore is just cringe
@lukejones2731
@lukejones2731 Жыл бұрын
The game is based off of the lore that was already there...
@shawnfoogle920
@shawnfoogle920 Жыл бұрын
@@lukejones2731 sure. like marvel. used to come from comics because thats all they had. now no one cares about comics but rather the movies.
@CEOofAutism
@CEOofAutism Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry…are you five?
@shawnfoogle920
@shawnfoogle920 Жыл бұрын
@@CEOofAutism exactly my point im not 5. So i don't care for made up bs \ lore. You're name basically proves me right btw. You must like lore lol
@jumapl9706
@jumapl9706 Жыл бұрын
i say at this point it should be said like, queek can defeat Snikch in 1v1 but only if he would see that coming and Snikch would actually commit to the fight. So becouse of the skulls that could warn him i say its a draw for them.
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