Ski-Cars! Lotus Elise and Porsche Cayman in Winter - RWD Sports cars in the snow! | Everyday Driver

[@chrisluecke3341]

The OCD in me couldn’t help but notice you have a tail light out at 53 seconds in 😂

[@alpha2gproject783]

Facts. Immediately noticed it backing out. I couldn't pay attention to anything but that.

[@GTC4cam]

Yup 😂

[@crossoctopus]

I have a feeling it’s the fog light on the right

[@cameronschweder8698]

And yet at 1:38 they are functioning normally when brakes are applied! Maybe just a flaky connection. Plus, check out the chapter titles at the beginning of the video. 😅

[@michaelpaver3788]

Lucas electrics

[@andrewm5840]

I loved everything about this video. The constant chuckles, the donuts while waiting for the friend, doing things that ppl think shouldn’t be done, the power walk in full ski gear 😂. *chef kiss*

[@andrewb325]

Sports cars on snows are the best winter vehicles. Anyone who hasn't tried it is missing out.

[@doug3011]

An Elise in snow with ski rack?? this guy is officially my hero; subscribed!

[@milesfathi]

The most fun I've ever had in a car was all through last winter in my GR86 on Michelin x Snows. In Canada! I can't even imagine how great the Elise must feel.

[@evansc3580]

Amazing how good that Lotus looks being almost 20 years old!

[@shawnshelton4709]

Drove my 2019 mustang gt in many Colorado and Wyoming winter storms. Winter tires are magical lol. I enjoyed it.

[@MrRaitzi]

@@shawnshelton4709 mustang GT has same ground clearance as regular Toyota Corolla. I had no problems with my 2013 GT in Finland. Studded winter continentals however. Because slip limit is low on snow , it won't snap on you even if you drift it.

[@MrXerxes]

This was a fun one guys, thanks for sharing.

[@elementaljosh]

As a v8 swapped miata enthusiast living in montana... I can confirm winter driving is one of the most fun parts of owning a sports car. Everyone thinks you're crazy until they realize you can outstop and outbrake anything else, even in the snow. That said, snow tires are the key, I've run the michelin X-ice, blizzaks, and firestone winterforce and definitely liked the blizzaks the best. I also have played around with a paco motorsports lift in the winter, just to get a little extra ground clearance for the deep powder days.

[@mynameIan]

This is what all true Canadian driving enthusiasts need!!!

[@ronin1914]

Amazing! This is like having live footage of a dream you’re trying to explain to your friends. Inexplicably fun, with elements that seem out of place…yet oddly satisfying. Like seeing a lotus with a ski rack, love it!

[@derrickclarke1621]

As always my wife and I thoroughly enjoyed you folks taking us along for the ride!!! Yes being Canadian I can tell you that snow tires really do make a difference!!!

[@jonathanstoddard7712]

As I guy that daily’s a nd Miata in Calgary Alberta Canada, I love this vid so much. Thank you guys for your work.

[@zeagle8647]

Been driving my 911 4S everyday every winter, often in snowstorms up Northern Canada for 14 years. The car is awesome and has definitely saved me from bad situations a few times. The 911 going up ski mountains or on ice roads up north or just heading to the office in a snowstorm is ... an adventure within the adventure that is life. Life is a series of adventures; the 911 is a great tool to create unforgettable memories, should you dare. :)

[@davidg7624]

Thanks for bringing back old memories of when I only owned one sports car and drove it year-round.

[@MistaFaro]

This was awesome! You guys create such great content, i feel like im hanging out with friends when i watch your guys videos, god bless yall! 🤙

[@jehl1963]

A note from personal experience -- today's modern sports cars (and many others too!) are built with significant aluminum content in their suspensions. Aluminum + steel + salt = galvanic reaction. A galvanized body like the Boxster's will also contribute to this. If you put dissimilar metals in an environment with free ions, electrons will flow. You absolutely will get aluminum oxide build-up where the two metals meet -- specifically in bolt-holes. Aluminum oxide is an extremely hard and abrasive material which is used on sand-papers. This will render just about every bolt in your suspension seized in place. Porsche understood this, and this is why a generous coating of underbody sealer (cosmoline) was applied to everything. It also helps to make sure that bolts are installed with a coating of grease on the shank and threads. Since I do use my Boxster in the off-season, I also added pieces of magnesium as sacrificial nodes which I mounted with screws onto the bearing carriers. At a minimum, make sure that your car's undercoating has been freshened if needed.

[@davesloat9006]

I think this may be my favorite video that you guys have ever done!

[@EverydayDriver]

Glad you enjoyed and connected with the Bond reference. Thanks for watching!

[@JuanLopez-kw9of]

Great video, loved your boyish enthusiasm about driving in the snow I grew up in Chicago and moved to Texas many years ago and man! do I miss the snow! There's something about the first snow fall of winter thats just special especially when you can enjoy it by going for a drive to go skiing . Had to watch it twice

[@mattsuter100]

Awesome! Love that you guys included some footage of the slopes, looks like a great time!

[@davesloat9006]

This has such 007 Lotus Esprit in the Alps vibes- I love it! Haha- I thought of that before you mentioned it! SPORTSCARS ARE MADE TO BE DRIVEN!!!

[@kc510]

I don’t live somewhere to justify snow tires but ever since seeing a 911 at Stowe I wanted to be this guy.

[@kc510]

Also, that knee deep powder… can’t wait for that!

@@kc510 You had to reply to yourself a new comment?

[@kc510]

Made more sense than a fully new comment. Too lazy to edit.

[@scoobers90]

Me: giggles watching the Elise do skids. Two seconds later… Todd: giggles while doing skids in the Elise.

[@george-ng5gj]

This is why I’m subscribed. Pure gold.

[@Kristian_Saile]

Drove my 944 year round living in Crested Butte, CO and have so many fun memories hitting all the mountain passes around CO in terrible conditions. Was really only limited by snow depth. Anyone who lives their skis though, keeps them inside 😆

[@JohnnyFD]

You guys are awesome!!! ❤❤❤ CRAZY but awesome!

[@mikecronis]

2006 Elise Touring was my daily in Denver in 2007. Handles pretty well in the snow, surprisingly. I found the snow over the front vents needed to be cleared or they'd steam like nuts.

[@alfredharrison8190]

This just proves the point that bright colors are the best!🧡🚗💨. “Add Brightness”

[@roberttimmerman394]

The Cayman looks even better in the snow!

[@ChrisOZ982]

Love to see a fellow Cayman owner driving it year round in the snow as well! Take mine to the slopes every weekend here in Europe. Thanks guys for the video!!!

[@rob_does_stuff]

I think you guys could make a video driving anything, anywhere, under any conditions, and I'd have fun watching it.

[@EverydayDriver]

We consider this a huge compliment. Thank you! We’re glad to have you watching!

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

I have no hesitation when it comes to two sets of tires and wheels. Played with a couple Vettes ,(auto X, Time Attack), in CO so that was essential. I'm on my second Cayman, even here in TX but it will get cold enough in winter that TW 220 N spec tires could give you a nasty letdown. That's what the Pilot Sport AS tires are for but....damn Paul! I gonna have to really think about reducing my offer on that GTS. 😂🤣Grew up in VT driving BMW "roundies",(2002's and a 1600), so I know it can be done with proper tires. Looks like a blast! Thanks guys. 👍

[@BOOSTEDDUDE]

That's awesome taking your sport cars skiing! Looked like you guys got the last few spots in that lot for that nice powder day! I like my Blizzaks a lot for going up Snowboarding.

[@willsullivan3]

Very cool. Porsche actually encouages winter driving, including drifting (yes, in 911s) and even offers clinics in winter. Here, the skiing is just icing! (When, I ask you, is a ski day merely icing on a cake?)

[@billcurnew6020]

Winter tires. No substitute! Anyone who hasn't driven on them may think this is just hype, but it is most certainly not. They can transform a near undriveable mess into a confident and safe traveler!

[@EnxoRan]

this makes me miss my gr86 more. that thing was awesome in the snow. Thanks for sharing guys!

[@milesfathi]

Yes. I loved mine in the snow. I'll soon find out if my Supra can be nearly as fun (I doubt it)

[@infrasilver]

I do the same every year, I head to the Austrian Alps from the UK for the GP Ice Race in my 996 Targa, and I purposely go hunting for snow, I use Vredestein Winter tyres too, and they cope commendably. The rear engine layout in the car gives great rear traction, but not so much that your can't get a little drifty if you want.

[@donhoover9900]

Loved this video. I've taken Audi TT from Vegas to Mammoth, CA and way back in the day a Honda Accord Hatchback from Phoenix to Durango skiing. It is so much fun to do and love to see the looks on folks faces when you park it at the ski resort.

[@GottaGoOutside]

"The Elise was barely designed for rain" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just put winters on my 987.1 CS and can't wait for the first snowfall. Precious? Not any more!!!

[@tyravosaurus]

I appreciate that Paul's phone case matches his car.

[@mr.keith31337]

That feeling when your steering wheel goes light in a Lotus Elise...

[@AtypicalDriver]

This is very atypical. I approve! 👨‍⚖️

[@RockMiach]

So great seeing the cars come to life after getting covered in snow sitting there during the skiing. Awesome video!

[@americanAlienBoy]

You're not the only guy with snows on an Elise. About 10 years ago, I used to see one parked at my office occasionally. Never met the owner.

[@bencausey]

This is what we want to see! I’m so jealous. Love this episode. Thank you.

[@IsaacReddinger]

Daily winter driving my Cayman was awesome!

[@dawsonjohannes613]

Man, I’ve been so bummed about the weather getting cooler here in Buffalo NY, but this is exactly what I needed to see to excite me for the other half of the GR86 ownership experience- silly, awesome, ridiculous winter driving in my sports car while I go skiing every weekend.

[@starrdogchamp1]

I love driving in the snow. its fun and so nice. too bad we don't get that much snow in new jersey any longer

[@erikrummel6277]

I live in the northeast and have always driven my sports cars in the winter. Corvette, bmw, camaro, 911, and my Elise when I get one next year will see the snow as well. My rule is, if it’s higher than my front bumper, I take my Humvee.

[@123antimiro]

Very well guys😀Absurd things worths the most in our lives👍

[@sdf9225]

I used to do this with my 2005 BMW ZHP convertible. It had the ski sack in the trunk and fit two pairs of ski's. 17" snows mounted on steelies were awesome in the winter in new england for skiing and donuts withe dsc turned off.

[@terminatedphil]

Life is too short to drive a boring car in winter.

[@Rex_Racer]

Indeed

Life is too short for boring cars

[@scottmcpeek4132]

Absolute shenanigans. Love it!

[@BS-zg7dn]

The BMW service manager told me that he used to drive his Z4 all winter. Said it was a little tank. I never was brave enough since I had the wide M wheels and also it was a convertible. But I bet it would be a blast. I could just feel the drifting as you were doing it! (Yes, I noticed the taillight immediately!)

[@Mike981S]

Reminds me of my skitrips in the Swiss and Austrian alps in the 1980s in my Triumph Spitfire (Hardtop on and winter tires and chains). Tons of fun!

[@micahstory]

I love this! So beautiful!

[@djmaya3d]

I used to drive my 3000GT vr4 to go ski almost every weekend. people just could not comprehend. it was hilarious.

[@pcthayer]

At least that was AWD. (BTW...nice car, that was my dream car.)

[@FluffyMuffinTaters]

I have the older model seasucker and a set of Viking contact7s on my orange challenger scat pack here in Colorado. You get some funny looks heading up the hill in that, but it’s so fun. Easy to find in the parking lot too!

[@52Highjump]

Funny enough I just saw a Supra with this exact setup earlier this week! Not in winter conditions however. But as soon as I saw it I said to myself “I gotta tell the guys!”

[@Jorge_Magallon]

I can’t express how shocked I am that Paul took the Cayman out in the snow. Is he selling it?

[@that44rdv4rk]

I year-round daily an old z4 coupe in the lake effect snow part of NY state, so this is relevant to my interests.

[@kylem324]

Sounds like you guys would love a Safari build Miata. Combining your overland Cayenne and sports cars into one car.

[@kw91712]

Yeah that Bond scene is ridiculous but amazing

[@wdbaseley7585]

Aluminum and road 'salt' is not exactly a picnic. And every fastener under either car... let's just say I hope you have a fire wrench handy. I love that you do this! Just don't kid yourselves that damage is not being done to the cars.

[@stevemartegani]

Paul's phone case that matches his car made me lol

Is it also an automatic?

[@tomfurie2996]

When I lived in Denver 3 decades ago I regularly drove my Alpha Romeo Spyder, then my Datsun 260Z up to Loveland and Keystone. Never got stranded. A bit sketchy at times, because I never owned snow tires. But growing up around Detroit you learn to drive in all types of winter weather. And the best way to learn to drive in the snow is to go into an empty parking lot and do controlled donuts. You learn the feel of the car when sliding and you learn how to counter steer and you learn the limits of the car. Then later when the inevitable happens, you just react naturally, rather than in a panic. I’ve given that advice since I was 17 and anyone who had done it has thanked me. I miss Denver and the mountains. A bit flat here in Chicago.

[@paullondon5332]

I took delivery of my Elise in the snow First time I ever drove it!

[@elliottharley1386]

Loved this!!!!

[@nazarkovch]

This is why I take my audi tt snowboarding

[@tmurphy3382]

Being juvenile here, but the sound of Paul’s windshield wipers around the 8-minute mark. 😂

[@e-type_driver]

Very cool (literally)

[@chromeandcelluloid]

hell yeah! people look at me slightly funny when I drive my Boxster in the winter

[@christopher1298]

Great video. Will probably watch this video 30 more times this year. Can't wait to put my winter tires on this weekend on my 2022 mx5. Going to be my second winter driving it. I own 2 Subaru's and still take the mx5 all winter long, it's really fun. Winter tires are mandatory in Montreal as of December 1st and that's a good thing. Just like u said " it's just a car ". Hopefully u make more Videos this winter with both cars.

[@sanglemalt]

I went camping in my lotus exige with a friend. It was hilarious getting 2 tents, sleeping bags, clothes and basic necessities into the car - but you learn to maximize the nooks and crannies. The look of the campers faces when we rocked up after driving 15km on an unsealed road in the middle of nowhere was hilarious…. And terrible. Will never do it again but at least we did it.

[@kimsnyder1535]

Took a 1984 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE over Donners Pass in a snowstorm shod with 4 dedicated snow tires. I made it!

[@wttwtg4165]

Now just imagine Paul in a Dakar and Todd in a Sterrato in this weather...of course with winter tires.

[@GTC4cam]

There’s a great vid somewhere of an enthusiast who went to great lengths trying to fully recreate that copper turbo esprit with the racks and everything, which he had to fabricate from scratch as I recall. He was like “yeah no, this isn’t a thing, this was definitely movie magic”. Pretty funny. Edit: it’s on the Classic Retro Modern youtube channel and it’s amazeballs. Just watched it again.

[@MrMirofl]

great video!

[@AdamLeask]

You crazy kids! Love it!

[@michelbergeron6852]

Great video ! I also own an orange Lotus Elise in Canada but I haven’t dared drive it in the winter. Instead my winter car is a 2022 Subaru BRZ, an old favorite of yours ! Hats off to you guys !

[@Greekphysique22]

I’d recommend getting the cars either wax lined or oil sprayed. With wax if it’s new not an issue, if it’s older it needs to be rid of gunk, oil, or rust. That either requires pressure wash, laser clean, CO2 blasting or all 3 applications. Now, depending on the formula of the oil it can swell natural rubbers. So apply silicon to protect that from happening, typically those are your weather stripping on doors. Once that stuff is applied on the underbelly and cavities wouldn’t recommend washing it with a pressure washer. If anything should be with a mist sprayer mixed with distilled water and desalter solution. Why distilled? Won’t leave water marks, the mister won’t take off the oil or wax. The oil depending on how bad the snow is add applications on high impact areas. Coilovers add copper to the threads of the collars and add shock covers for protection. I’ve had a 97 Integra see 6 Michigan salt infested winters no rust. Enjoy your vehicles all year round peeps. Salt sucks

[@TheImperfectGuy]

I'm pretty sure the Elise's structure doesn't care about salt, aluminum's strength being immune to salt water and all that she bang

[@phattyhales]

@@TheImperfectGuy It's also fiberglas body panels too.

[@Greekphysique22]

I’m arguing cars in general that are 90% or more constructed out of steel. Aluminum still oxidizes just obviously not like steel.

[@CIRCLEDARK]

Unless every fastener, bolt, screw, suspension component, etc is rust free, DIY is a nightmare. Ever since I moved down South and have worked on cars that lived their whole lives down here, I had no idea how much easier life could be.

[@razorworks111]

hats off to you both for having the balls to do this. My Cayman gets driven whenever conditions allow, but given that its my “forever car” it never going to see snow/rain. Can’t stomach the idea of salt and grit getting on/in it.

[@kc510]

I get this take completely because that’s my jeep for me! It’s not allowed to see salt and is parked from November-April. Doors haven’t been on it in at least 4 years.

[@TheImperfectGuy]

I guess that's a point for an Elise having 0 structural steel and the metal it does not have (aluminum) being incapable of growing rust holes

[@apacifico]

@@kc510 not driving a jeep in winter is really funny to me

[@kc510]

@@apacifico I agree. It’s dumb but I’m keeping this thing forever. Sold a few and regretted it. Wheeled a nice one and regretted that so now I have a cheap, busted, cut up Cherokee for off roading and snow.

[@thelaw300]

Great episode. My concern with bringing a car that I plan to enjoy long term is rust and corrosion to hardware as well. Even though the body may be aluminum, there's likely a good bit of steel or iron that is exposed and will be a royal pain to remove. Extracting broken bolts and studs is no fun and not how I want to experience the car that I love. On the bright side, Porsche often uses aluminum hardware which will make a big difference. I'm not sure if Lotus does the same.

[@Olddahg]

Ah yes, Todd’s cyborg-helmet. Great vid guys!

[@MrRaitzi]

Ground clearance is the only problem with these cars on winter. I had Cayman R in Finland. Skidded many times because snow was lifting the car. Easy still to drive in slippery conditions.

[@Herbal-T]

Same. It’s the chunks from the plows and falling off other cars that make me put sports cars away for the winter. low clearance can’t handle them. driving over a boulder of ice… terrible feeling.

[@mkei8973]

Hi, from Japan!! Thank you for the fun show. You have been recommending to wear all weather tires or winter tires. Now I have a question. Does it work even on very muddy conditions?? I’m asking it from my bad experience. By the way, Todd should change 2nd rear lamp from the left side as you know.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

Hell yeah! Everyday Skiier!

[@tnutss]

You guys need to link up with power market for sponsorship. At least where I am in California, powe market associated gas stations have monthly car wash subscriptions where you have unlimited drive through car washes! Many around Sacramento where I live are also touch free! For less than $30 I can wash my car 30/31 times. Enough to wash all my cars, my parents cars, my in laws cars in 3 different locations throughout California

[@jasonsong86]

I need a sports car to drive to ski resorts hahah.

[@POM4R4NC]

You should test snow chains that mount on a wheel nut. Like Pewag RSC Servostar.

[@philguzman6932]

It's even better with summer tires.

[@JackBlack-ii1ip]

Out here in the Japan Alps, I see plenty of performance car drivers who are essentially trying to buy respect. Not realising that you can't buy respect, you have to earn it. When the snow comes, these two-wheel-drive. light weight performance cars are worse than useless. Wait till you have to tackle steep downhill slopes on compressed snow. If you think going up is difficult, wait till you have go down. So this is what is what you need for snow driving: -Four wheel drive -New snow tyres -Diff lock -Limited slip differential -Ground clearance So don't skimp on your fully comp insurance. Jack, the Japan Alps Brit

[@phattyhales]

@JackBlack-ii1ip with proper winter tires it doesn't really matter. We film in the mountains of Utah. Park City is at an elevation of 6300 ft (1920 m). My commute to work from the valley goes up 2000 ft through a canyon. I can tell you with the right tires it doesn't matter if you have FWD, RWD, or AWD. AWD helps of course, but isn't the most important element to winter driving. My 996 on winter tires is a complete tank in snow!

[@tp4819]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!

[@bertwilson4311]

There is someone down in Anchorage who has a yellow Elise and the bottom of those aluminum doors look to be badly corroded. I think I would keep that car at home for that reason only. You guys also picked up on the wheel imbalance that always crops up in vehicles with lightweight wheels and low-profile tires. Never happens with my full-size trucks. FYI, I drive a sports car year-round.

[@stevepascoe]

I have a 91 Celica GT Four - Group A. Now I need to find some snow. No excuse.

[@azzamatic4190]

Nothing like driving your expensive sports car on salted roads 😉

[@douglasangelflores6796]

So much fun. Lol

[@charlie729]

this is epic as hell

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

People who say you can't drive a RWD in winter are just objectively wrong. We don't get as much snow as in the video, which i am very jealous of, but I've been driving rwd's through winter for over 8 years with no issues ever. You just need proper tires, and they don't have to cost a lot. 70€ per piece are good enough.

[@AlbertoDellaRegina]

Somebody was expecting this to happen... with the Emira! :D

[@phattyhales]

@AlbertoDellaRegina we actually filmed this back in February before the Emira had become Todd's