Skid Steer Comparison: Takeuchi TL12V2 versus Kubota SVL 97-2

[@jonmatlock277]

I love my 97-2 Kubota , I like the low profile while working in the trees. I use a skid pro brush cutter and it never has over heated.

[@blackdogexcavator21]

I'm with ya on the roll up door. I ran an SVL 75 and the Tak TL8. I bought the TL 8 because it was simply a tank when it comes to moving dirt. The Kubota was a nice, smooth machine but, the ease of maintenance made my decision. Takeuchi has their machine set up nice. I've owned it 2 years and have zero complaints.

[@right8630]

The new -3 which probably wasn’t available at the time is awesome but I’ve never used the tl8 but the 75-3 is totally different and a major upgrade in performance it actually out specs in most area the t66 from bobcat the only difference is the 66 is a little faster.

[@robertashley192]

I have the 97-2 and mainly use it for heavy duty brush cutting. I bought a Vail x series 85” mower and haven’t had any issues overheating. I’ve been completely satisfied with the kubota.

[@danielyoura8428]

I run a 150 FAE mulcher all day on my 97-2 same here NEVER over heated

[@jasong-m2u]

It’s a Rattlebox

[@trey8543]

@@danielyoura8428Curious, are you running an auxiliary cooler with your FAE?

[@RCPropaganda]

I have the tak, and it has been solid. The only thing with the roll-up door is that it rattles a lot and makes for a loud day in the cab. Other than that, it's a solid machine.

[@jacobwhitehorse25]

Bought a 06 TL 150 new. To say it has been durable is an understatement. Great piece still working daily 👍

[@TF856]

Takeuchi is one of my favorite brands.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

takeuchi and kubota are identicle same with same engine

[@Degee5585]

Great real world, no BS review. I found it helpful. Thanks for posting.

[@kregschlautman]

Owned a tl12v2 for 2 years now and absolutely love it. It's a tank. The biggest thing I have with it is trying to teach people how to pronounce the name right (Tak-e-uchi). But this is a very good comparison and agree with you on the door 100% hence why I demoed both of these machines. The only other thing is lack of vents for the ac and heater on the kubota compared to the tak. Overall nice video and comparison.

[@rogerbing5314]

I work for an equipment dealer in PA and our 2nd line is Takeuchi. We sell many Takeuchi's and honestly we very rarely have one in the shop for any kind of mechanical problems.

[@youngmike8645]

Mechanically sound on the Takeuchis but computer wise and Regen has been nothing short of a nightmare 2k hours in. I have almost no experience with kubota equipment other than their engines which are great but big Takeuchi and kubota use cheap pins. The slop in the boom (excavators in particular ) after about 1500 hours is sad. CATerpillar definitely uses a higher grade steel in my experience. Love how smooth and powerful the Takeuchi is though. Just cleared about 14 acres with a little TL8 in 60 hours. I put that machine and grapple through the ringer and I have to say I am impressed especially what I was asking of it. Looking to buy my first CTL in the near future. I love caterpillar but the door is an issue for a multitude of reasons.

[@cyumadbrosummit3534]

@@youngmike8645 Every CTL made in the last decade has DPF with regen (and or DEF). That's your government who mandates that regen. FYI the same exact regen happens on your precious Caterpillar.

[@youngmike8645]

@@cyumadbrosummit3534 cat uses kubota engines painted CAT yellow.

[@brandonwood1397]

Bobcats don't have def or regen​@@cyumadbrosummit3534

[@terrymckinch8587]

WOW, great review. I have a 65 ordered, and I have driven the 75 and like it. Thanks for all the hard work you put into the review.

[@bryanrude8072]

I just found your video as I wait on my new Cat 259 to be delivered. I had a Kubota svl90 that I bought new, blow a main hydraulic pump after I used it for approximately 300 hours. It was out of warranty due to purchase date. Kubota sure doesn't stand behind their product like I thought they would. No one can tell me a major pump failure after 200 too 300 hours is normal. Oh well that's my last Kubota!

[@waldo198823]

Lots of people don’t realize that most Takeuchi machines have kubota engines.

[@danielb516]

Mines yanmar

[@alexanderpetroci]

I’d take the Takeuchi any day over the Kubota. I’ve owned both. But I’ve found that the Takeuchi is in a whole other class when compared to the Kubota. There both great machines, but if you want a beast I’d recommend the Takeuchi.

[@Buldgr]

How does the ASV compare?

[@mattkasper9789]

Takeuchi is the best skid steer out there. Wouldn’t own anything else.

[@melissatuason2395]

I've been looking at the Case DL550

[@TamBinkle]

Hell to the naw

[@ClarenceObert]

I think the bottom line would be service availability. If you have a good dealer/service repair (all machines will break sooner or later) in your area, versus having to travel a large distance, you have to take that into consideration. Form me, the closest dealer in Take is 8 hour drive versus a "K" is 30 minutes.

[@LuisHernandez-tb6we]

Man wait till the 97-3 come out the svl75-3 just came out it’s nice radio on the touch screen a/c in the front raised the back bar. This are 2 different class machines the Tl10 is more comparable machines. Both are great manufactured machines I agree on the door it’s a must if ur setting something alone or can’t get out to help that’s a no go for me. I have a svl75-2 with 3k hours of hard concrete work and so far it’s been done me well. Just put my name on the list for the 75-3 & as soon as the 97-3 comes out I will also add it to the fleet.

[@davidjennings75]

Glad ur doing this. I'm looking forward to seeing this video. I have. TL12V2

[@robhardy1109]

TL12R2 tipping load is 8629lbs per their website. Kubota 97 sv-2 tipping load is 9143lbs per their website. Oddly, the Tak has 250lbs + more breakout force. Also, with the Tak being much heavier, it has almost 2000lbs! more traction force, making it MUCH better at plowing or digging deep into a pile if material. Hope that helps.

[@chennemeyer]

R2 is much less than V2 which is a few thousand more

[@so-fla.streetcars]

Ill Only by a slide up door for now on I had a cat and I and I got stuck but a big hedge fell across the front of it and I was completely Trapped in the machine Another thing to know on the takiutchi is they have the only impact rated cab in the market you can drop a big old pine tree on it and it won't collapse

[@benniebarrow348]

Does the Tak still use the Kubota engine ? I bought my SVL 90-2 new in ‘14 (mainly because the dealer is 3 miles from my house) and the only thing I’ve ever done to it is normal maintenance and add a cab top mounted hydraulic cooler . I use it as a weekend warrior and push the hell out of it . I know the new machines are more advanced and powerful but the 90 has done a lot of forestry mulching (fecon bullhog), shredding and dirt pushing and it’s been great. If I were gonna buy a new one just for forestry mulching it would probably be an ASV. Have a couple friends with them and the FAE heads and they are beast.

[@jamesbrooks5442]

We had a tl 12 over 7k hours run hard no major problems open cab very strong

[@josephkellogg2177]

I mean, of course, the cylinders have to be bigger because of where the lifting point is compared to the Kubota

[@jos6216]

We run a small fleet of Kubota 95 & 97s. Dealer service is terrible. The skids are good. We run them a lot of hours and do tons of slope work and carrying 3000-4000lbs across, up and down the slopes 60-100 runs a day. Would love to go with CAT. But would look at the above mentioned.

[@benniebarrow348]

Everyone’s service has fallen off post covid ……dealer support and prompt repairs are a thing of the past . Like so many things now days finding a company that actually gives a damn is almost impossible. Bean counters in charge , incompetent help and a “what do you want?” attitude has taken its toll.

[@JFlex76]

My Kubota dealer still gives a damn, nothing has changed from them

[@careycooperjr]

Lift strength is most important for my business. I wish you had Deere 333g and the new Bobcat T86 in the lift test. I have the T770 Bobcat now and had the Takeuchi TL12R2 and the R2 would lift more, but I don’t think it was a huge difference. I didn’t have them at the same time to test side by side.

[@Pullhardlogging]

Lifting and the door was the biggest thing for me

[@thomaslecour2462]

Hey the bobcat t770, you should seriously consider the remote control, MaxControl. I have an a770 with the MaxControl, easy install, I can run all of my attachments with it, sweeper, grapple, drum mulcher, dozer blade, on 10 acres to the distance of my property, signal does get choppy, but safety features are reliable, signal lost, it shuts down instantly. I’ve had the MaxControl in operation for about 6 months now and being outside the machine loading/unloading, operating the attachments, and the precision to the task at hand is definitely an advantage over all of these skid steers

[@jasong-m2u]

The T86 sucks period

[@taki0ps230]

case 620b is now out with a 12 400lb tipping load. that being said its not much more than the takeuchis 11,700 considering the case weighs around 3000lb more @@Pullhardlogging

[@vasiliydron]

I personaly hate the kubotas but love the takuchie but run cats because the dealer by far has the best service in my area. Go wkth the dealer service a bad dealer can make a great machine a sour experiance.

[@richardjimenez7394]

I like the Tekeuchi :)

[@MrMan5014]

I don’t think you called that Takeuchi the same name twice!..lol!!..good video!..that Tak is big!

[@Pullhardlogging]

Yea lol something I need to work on

[@MarkBarrack]

​@@Pullhardloggingmade me laugh

[@ralphcarbone299]

Have an older Tak and a new Tak mini ex. Just great machines!!!!

[@kahvac]

Wondering where I can buy one of those tak-a-hachi's ?

[@D.M.Designs]

I put some hours on the TL-12 and by far the most rugged and big CTL, everything is built beefy like an old Dyna-hoe. You can feel the weight and it makes it a pleasure to work. The TL-10 is a beast too and def floats better when grading and finishing soils. The new Big Gehl ctl has a slide open window and nice track system but it did not climb material piles and slopes like the Tak when I demoed it.

[@SkidderKev]

Have have run both but my time in the tachy is very short. We were moving our disc cleaner around with the tl12 and I thought the kubota handled it just a hair better. I don't think you can go wrong with either but that 20k cheaper and 0% is pretty good. I'd say kubota.

[@right8630]

The tak is a higher class machine as it’s a 111 hp vs 90. Having said that I bet Kubota passes up tak with the -3 as the 75-3 is amazing.

[@anthonycash4609]

To get the lifting power you want. You are going to have to go with the new case metal track machine , it's a DL 550 . I do not remember how the door worked on it. Swing out of lift up. But $20.000 more for basically the same machine that's a no brainer in my book. You also need to read the fine print in booth warranties they plainly state that if you run a mulcher that requires high flow you have to run an external cooler which is about $8000 more on top of the cost of the machine. And that's on the takeuchi and Kubota, the only machine that I know of that has a large enough cooling system from the factory to run a mulcher without an external cooler is ASV . Good luck on the new machine

[@scottmagee9709]

I run a TL12v2 with stock cooler.....No problem with my high flow mulcher or cutter........Mt neighbor has ASV.....over heats in 90 plus degree weather, and sometimes in the 80s.

[@anthonycash4609]

@@scottmagee9709 Go to your dealer and ask him what does he recommend when running a high flow mulcher . I've had booth and also seen booth over heat and dealt with the dealer once it damaged the machine. No warranty if you don't have an external cooler. And if the machine didn't need a external cooler why do they even make it for the machines. But by all means keep going just like it is and see how long it last.

[@digginandbuildinwv7012]

It's a case tv620b, is the same as the dl550 without the expensive options, basically rubber track version, but you can order it with steel tracks.

[@golfbravowhiskey8669]

I own both machines just like those. Both of the are great machines. The T-chi is a little heavier built and here in East Tx the Kubota has better ac. Both are better than any JD and Cat.

[@jorgelorenzo4235]

I got two svl 95s nothing but def issues and limp modes atleast 3 x a year

[@fox13z400]

How good is your local CASE dealer? If you're going to be primarily off-road usage and you have a decent CASE dealer I'd take a look at the new TV620 and get it with steel tracks. Their are several videos out there of the new DL550 and that thing is a beast compared to pretty much every skid loader on the market right now and the TV620 is based on the DL550. The company I work for personally uses Tak's and we like them but I'd really like to get a try in a new DL550 or TV620.

[@OShackHennessy]

The 620 is an absolute monster

[@fxnytroxtxFPP]

Overhead door is where it's at!

[@midnightsnakeboa]

my boss has a tl12v2 and it overheats when we are using a mulcher after about 3 hours all the lvls are top off nothing low.

[@RobertBurgess-u1l]

Just wondering have you guys tried putting the ASV135 up against these machines, yes even though it has the front window that you don’t like but more as a comparison ?

[@Buldgr]

I'm NOT an operator, but I would love to see that comparison as well.

[@rontopping2048]

97- 3 will mostly have radiators on top like 75-3

[@aaronolsen8787]

I'm eagerly waiting for the 97-3 to come out, but it might be a while. I've narrowered it down to JCB 3TS-8T, Kubota SVL75-3 or one of the ASV's. I've heard the JCB's have some issues but the side door is sure nice. I don't like that the front roller is not a double or triple flange though. Visibility to the right side of the bucket is also poor unless the boom is extended out. I like the roll up door and the undercarriage being fully welded/integrated on the Kubota. 1 piece cab is definitely an improvement. The ASV's have a great track design for snow removal and ride really well. I'm not sure of their reliability either and the don't care for the swing out door. Bobcat doesn't have a great dealer where I'm at unfortunately. I don't care for Deere, Case or Cat. Takeuchi doesn't have a dealer close by so I've never considered one. Do you still operate a Bobcat T66? Which machine has been your favorite thus far? Thanks.

[@shiraz1736]

I wonder if you could divert high flow to the rams the Tak could lift that 3rd log? It’d be nice to have a superman button.

[@rickhensley7528]

What brand bucket you like using on that takeuchi? ThKS

[@Pullhardlogging]

I don't use a bucket a whole lot so I just use what it came with flat Edge

[@TheDirtracingboy31]

Ive got an old john deere 455 track loader and it has a bucket big enough to haul these machines around in it and twice as fast. And you can throw those logs off the mtn. With it. But sad they dont still make them anymore. But that old machine still fires up runs like new every time. I have a new Holland machine that's pretty nice but of I was lifting that much weight all the time I'd look into a large machine like a real loader. That's hard work for a co pact track loader all day long. I guess it depends on how often you going to be trading in machines. But I'd be worried if warranty ran out on it. And you will get more work out of steel tracks. Bout 1000 hrs on rubber tracks

[@TheDirtracingboy31]

Kubota is comfortable. I know parts are an issue where i live in the mtns of north Carolina. We have kubota and deere dealers everywhere here. But the taks are dependable machines. Ive ran theor excavators. Very strong slew motors so strong most dippers are broken on them from people spreading dirt with their buckets. The kubota has a weal slew motor but it has its reasons. My kubots is more comfortable than the taks ive ran and i have had great luck with my kubota kx121-3. However the newer 40s not so much. Im actually looking into buying another ctl and have been looking at taks and asv or the new yanmar. The yanmar has my attention also. May be good to check one out. Id like to see you do a review on the new yanmar 100.

[@TheDirtracingboy31]

Kubota is comfortable. I know parts are an issue for the taks where i live in the mtns of north Carolina. We have kubota and deere dealers everywhere here. But the taks are dependable machines. Ive ran theor excavators. Very strong slew motors so strong most dippers are broken on them from people spreading dirt with their buckets. The kubota has a weal slew motor but it has its reasons. My kubots is more comfortable than the taks ive ran and i have had great luck with my kubota kx121-3. However the newer 40s not so much. Im actually looking into buying another ctl and have been looking at taks and asv or the new yanmar. The yanmar has my attention also. May be good to check one out. Id like to see you do a review on the new yanmar 100

[@Pullhardlogging]

I like the look but has that stupid door on them

[@bronz12]

Maybe for lifting, John Deere got both Takeuchi and Kubota beat, plus John Deere have a good counterweight, to balance the weight you're lifting. If you buy the Takeuchi with cash, you can buy it less than a 100K.

[@markpontes4457]

Would you consider a JCB with a wide open side door?

[@Pullhardlogging]

Never heard anything good about them

[@JR-ci2pk]

Im curious have you had a machine skid steer that would lift the third log?if so what was it?

[@Pullhardlogging]

No thats a big log I new it wouldn't but wanted to try

[@dgrif9387]

Great video, TY

[@anthonycash4609]

What most people don't know is that takuchie runs a Kubota motor. And also the Kubota can be turned up to the same H.P.

[@TheOMEGANOX]

Yep, same motor, different flash.

[@scottmagee9709]

Its whats ALL AROUND that motor that makes a big difference.

[@anthonycash4609]

@@scottmagee9709 they booth have an enclosed cab booth have heat and AC booth performs the same. So just to get a red and gray machine nope not willing to pay $20.000 thousand just to change the color. And i dont want to here anything about horse power. Ive been a diesel mechanic for over 30 years and the Kubota can be turned up to the same as the tach. Ive done it to mine.

[@4thgenfarmer371]

I wish you would have had either the John Deere 331g or the 333g in this video.

[@Pullhardlogging]

Can't stand the door

[@rayw2455]

Which one was quieter inside?

[@Pullhardlogging]

About the same I would say tL12 was a little better

[@joedoakes8307]

You should view the "Crash Bumper" Vbelt& Son added to the rear of his T12 , very heavy Duty" !

[@Pullhardlogging]

Yea I've seen them very nice

[@tahoecamper5078]

So which one did you decide to go with? Please make a video update.

[@Pullhardlogging]

Coming soon

[@stump-bossBIll]

@@Pullhardlogging Did you post the decision video? I don't see it?

[@TimmboSlice92]

This is going to sound a bit strange but if you were to turn off "Active Power Control" on the Takeuchi it will lift that 3rd log a bit higher. About a foot or so off the ground.

[@Pullhardlogging]

Thanks for the advice

[@TimmboSlice92]

@Pull-Hard Logging I'd say by now you've already made your decision. However, you might consider a TL12R2 as well. I know it has way less tipping capacity but it has a more lift arm breakout force. With a counterweight kit, it does pretty well.

[@scottmagee9709]

This is true.....I have the Tl12 and after a few hours i realized the power difference, with it off.....it WILL out lift the Kabota!

[@dustinpitts2741]

The tl12 the dealer here told me it would be December before he would get two and they were sold so their out for me

[@rontopping2048]

Takeuchi and kubota is fully hydraulic to joysticks. Have been since day 1

[@Vega02flaco]

I know you said you don't like the other machines but I like to see how the other machines do on those tasks.

[@Pullhardlogging]

My dad sold his cats and I've never had a deer but maybe a future video I'll come up with something

[@Vega02flaco]

@@Pullhardlogging I been watching for that. Thanks for replying.

[@jimmyfrisco9767]

The John Deere 333e outperforms all of them

[@boobacockaa]

@@jimmyfrisco9767 especially when it catches on fire.

[@ryanreiswig]

@@Pullhardlogging Great video comparison! Yes!! Lets see a Deere 331G or 333G lift that 3rd log!! I know you like the door on these but in my opinion serviceability on both are terrible compared to a Deere and some of the other ones out there with removable side shields.

[@nicholastuttle2445]

How does the Bobcat T870 stack up to these? I just bought a 2011 model and it looks to be longer and wider than these. I do not like the swing out door so I mostly run without the door unless I'm using the mower. I looked for an SVL-97 but nothing I could find was priced reasonably.

[@Pullhardlogging]

I've never been a big fan of bobcat I have a toolcat and if anyone else made a toolcat I would buy a different one

[@nicholastuttle2445]

@@Pullhardlogging I'm just glad mine has the Kubota engine with the mechanical pump, no computer. It's a sturdy machine though

[@chessplayerelite669]

Tipping point may be more than on the Kubota, but doesn't mean it has that much more grunt. Takeuchi makes a bigger machine, so its shear weight will make it more stable & less likely to tip. As an operator, my personal opinion is Kubota loaders are and have always been weak in hp. compared to everyone else, therefore, I'd never want to own one myself. That's just me.

[@mattywho8485]

I'll buy the Kubota for 20K less and put that $ into diesel fuel. I own 3 Kubota excavators and they have all been trouble free, the eldest is 9+ years old and not one break down or trip to the dealer for repairs. The only thing that broke was the radio, and that had nothing to do with Kubota.

[@oldtimerf7602]

It seems like the Kubby is a no brainer? If it won't lift a log, roll the sumbitch.

[@Planeiron]

Kubota is a non transferrable warranty I think....could be another brand I forgot...I like the Taco

[@LAKESIDEBOB1]

you showed the view of the cutting edge of the Kubota but not the Takeuchi, so what is the visability to the cutting edge on the TL12

[@Pullhardlogging]

Not as good as the 97 you have to lean forward to see it

[@davidlopez9323]

R they same year built!!?

[@Pullhardlogging]

Yes both brand new

[@bossturbo]

I've heard the slide up doors make a tall operator have to duck a bit when opened/closed? I'm 6'2"

[@Pullhardlogging]

Either machine you have duck to get in and out of it

[@bossturbo]

​@@Pullhardlogging Appreciate the response. How about when sitting and pulling the door open or closed?

[@digginandbuildinwv7012]

I'm 6'6 and got in a 97 last week, definitely hits my head, not a fan of the roll up door

[@bossturbo]

@digginandbuildinwv7012 yeah but you're giant lol

[@digginandbuildinwv7012]

@bossturbo true, but I still like the build on the kubota, seems stout. I might end uo up with one, going to see a demo on Tuesday of a new cat 265, totally redesigned

[@farmerbob728]

Terrific video,,, side by side comparison. I've had both the tracks and wheel skid steer from the kubota. But in the 75 size. I've never been in any other skid steer, How is the noise level from one machine to the other.? I understand what are saying about the service and dealers. The kubota dealership with me is excellent 👌..

[@Pullhardlogging]

The noise is about the same I would have to say

[@Ky-iz8py]

Every single Takeuchi excavator we have running had been at the dealer several times for DPF problems. TB240, TB290. same same. They just go into limp mode and beep forever. Even after replacing DPF's they are problematic again after a while. They aren't run at low RPM's either. They are solid machines but emissions is hot dog garbage

[@danielb516]

parts on the kubota i hear are insane $$$$$

[@brandonwood1397]

Guy I buy logs from has been waiting on a final drive for over a month for his Kubota. I'd never buy one of those homeowner machines

[@talonbecher5954]

Forgot about gehls slide up door

[@thomaslecour2462]

Bobcat has remote control, MaxControl, awesome investment, operating skid steer in complete control on all attachments while being outside at your fingertips

[@rontopping2048]

Stick to video games young man. Impossible to grade without visibility to cutting edge. You know nothing

[@rustyellis3702]

Kubota parts always available plus service for decades

[@dodgethis12]

I will not own a JD, any machine that is locked so only the dealer can work on it is insane.

[@brandongoleman7206]

What do you mean by locked?

[@dodgethis12]

@ the software is locked so only JD can work on the farmers tractor.

[@hutchh.6933]

I think they place too much emphasis on the tipping load rating because does not have a real world application because none of the machines can actually lift the tipping amount. It is just a metric that is used to create the operating capacity. 35% of the tipping load = rated operating capacity. That is what they can pick up to full height and move around with safely. But neither of those specs actually tell you how much the machine will actually lift up in the air and move when you need it to. The tipping load is more about the geometry, weight placement and balance of the machine. So although the Take would probably be more stable moving around with full capacity loads it doesn't necessarily mean it will have a higher full capacity lift rating. Marketing numbers. I think any of them will at least pick up thier rate operating capacity...but some lift quite a bit more but maybe not safely. The manufactuers make it so hard to compare apples to apples unless you go do real world test like you did, you just dont know. I have been trying to decide between these 2 machines myself so thank you very much for the excellent real world review :) I am also trying to decide on a new dump trailer. All the fracking trailer mfgs love to post their GVWR's, exterior dimensions, etc etc etc But you NEED to know the trailer weights to determine payloads because there are huge variations on weights between very similar trailers with the same GVWR ratings. Or if they do show the weight is only on the shortest version of that trailer with zero options. I am looking at getting a 18 dump trailer but they only show the weight on the 14' version so I have no clue what the 18' weighs. Both are 24K rated and the 14' weighs 7K# giving it a 17K payload. I need a minimum of 16K Does the 18' long version weigh 2000# more than the 14'? If it does then it will not work for me. What if I add a spare tire, tarp & spreader tailgate? How much does that eat in payload (how heavy of a machine can I carry in it?) Sorry for the rant :) It just drives me crazy that manufactures will not post the actual real world specs you need to make a decision. You need to know how much it will actually pick up so you can get the one that will pick up the most. I need to know the actual payload of the trailers not the GVWR so I know if it will haul my machine. But I am a big guy. Your review was super helpful on these 2 machines. I will definitely be going with the Kubota machine. I will be using it a lot more for mulching than you so the heat issue concerns me somewhat but I can buy an auxiliary cooler for around $10K that solves that issue and keeps the Kubotas running cool in mulching jobs. The big deciders for me was you descriptions of the site view to the blade tip. Visibility all around and most of all the hand position of the joysticks. I had a JD dozer that had horrible control placement. Had to hold your arms up all day. I finally cut the arm rest out and made an adjustable arm rest bracket. Made 100% difference on how tired I was at the end of the day. On my Kubota tractor the seat was too low. I had to raise my entire leg up in the air to get my foot on the brake. Uncomfortable & not safe & not speedy. I pulled the seat and bracket off and built a riser out of 3" square tubing. Works great now ;) Loved the review. Keep them coming.

[@Pullhardlogging]

Thanks for the great comment. I did buy a B wise unlimited dump trailer very nice trailer

[@onetimeexcavation6015]

Takeuchi is more money but also 111 hp not 97 so keep that in mind. Also even though engines are both kubota the hydraulics are different which seems to make difference because the kubota has more of a whine sound and is louder.

[@tonyviers-de9qi]

20k . Plus interest. 3 years less warranty. Further to dealership .

[@bear9923]

SVL75 (74HP) TON OF ROOM IN BACK FOR MAINTENANCE.

[@doolittlegeorge]

Not really a fan of rubber tracks but other than that truly amazing machines keep being made absolutely no doubt.

[@38baby2]

All skids have rubbers, never seen one with metal tracks lol

[@jam471975]

The Case DL550 has steel tracks but yeah every other compact track loader comes with rubber tracks

[@brandonwood1397]

​@@jam471975you can get cats with steel tracks

[@In2investing]

Wonder if Takeuchi R2 machines lift more than the V2. I know V2 loft higher but that might be something to consider

[@operatorbenji9735]

Im 99% sure rhe R2s lift less

[@ben-mm2ve]

I had both machines v2 and r2, and r2 lifts more.

[@charlesbelser7249]

For me, unfortunately, the $20,000 difference would force me to buy the Kubota and I need all the leg room possible. Too bad the ASV 135 forestry is way too expensive.for normal people. Also from what I hear the cooler is sitting on top of the exhaust in a very hot place etc and the air conditioning unit has a tendency to get clogged up while forest mulching at least which I plan on doing quite a bit so I am very leery of the Kubota as well. All these companies need to make these about a foot longer 6"in the cab for leg room and six inches more in the engine compartment etc. Bad dealer support from Kubota from everyone . I had a guy do 20 days of forest mulching for me recently with this Tac and noticed that it needed a little more flow like maybe 50 gpm to keep it turning. They are all a little too small for me . I was told I need a D8 with a mulcher on it if it could be done or at least a $300,000 dedicated forest mulcher which will never happem. lol.

[@TheGrasspond]

I agree with your point on the door. Its not a game changer for me but to each his own. the Deer have best access, protection from debris and strongest hydraulics regardless of what it says on paper. Oh yes, best visibilty as well

[@joshowens2219]

If you owned a rental company which would you rather have in your fleet?

[@Pullhardlogging]

Probably a Kubota just because there's a lot of them out there and easy to get parts and everything for

[@runningscout14]

The tak had almost 2 tons in operating weight over the Kubota

[@thomaslecour2462]

I do like the slide up doors very nice, but ease access to serviceability and maintenance is game changer for me, bobcat or cat for me

[@thomaslecour2462]

@@rontopping2048 Thank you for the compliment on my age and I do love video games but to educate you on myself, I have a bachelors degree in industrial psychology from governor state university in Illinois, I’m 55 years old on 10 acres of land, I farm a couple 100 acres, operate too many different pieces of equipment to mention for over my life time. I’m just trying to give you, I think, a safer alternative and less risk of break downs because I know mistakes happen to the best of us, no one is perfect

[@MrMan5014]

If you need more power I would look at the Case 620

[@jefferykeeper9034]

Why don't you ĺook at Kioti ?

[@curtisbull1583]

With all the craziness going on in the world, aren't you worried about getting parts for these foreign overseas machines. Seems like a New Holland, cat or JD would have less of a parts issue. If the parts issue and machine availability wasn't a concern, I'd most likely buy a JBC. Hate the swinging door as well, much prefer the Kobata and JCB type doors.

[@Pullhardlogging]

I agree with the parts thing but seems like everything comes from overseas now so

[@labandonaldhock80]

They are all assembled in China

[@revskull]

Takeuchi all day. Ta ke uchi

[@kellykolnes1954]

I'd buy a old asv with the 120 horse deere dozer motor in it for forestry work , gotta be careful lifting big rock with a bucket because it will ruin the bucket lol . I lifting a massive rock once and it bent the bucket . Those machines are lifting animals. The asv undercarriage sucks when you get into smaller rocks , the rocks eat up the rubber wheels . Otherwise it's the cats ass

[@davidjennings75]

Did you have the RPMs up when you tried the Tacheuchi on the 3rd log?

[@Pullhardlogging]

Yes all the way

[@scottmagee9709]

Active power control was on though....it would have done it other wise!@@Pullhardlogging

[@buddymullins6424]

Only machine that will lift that much weight is the 333g Deere . But out of the too you got there both are good machines.

[@Pullhardlogging]

The deere lifts in between these two I just don't like the door on the deeres

[@buddymullins6424]

@@Pullhardlogging . Ya I’m not a Deere guy my self. Iv ran them a lot tho . I stay with cat even though they don’t have the power . Just used to them .

[@careycooperjr]

Do you think the 333g would definitely have lifted the third log? Are they that much stronger lift wise than the others.

[@StefanBacon]

I find it amusing that no one can pronounce たけうち. Say it with me: TA, KE, U, CHI :) Just giving you shit, great video. I run a Cat CTL at work sometimes, and frankly, it just isn't very good. Controls don't respond well, tracks are hard to clean, cab is small with lots of hard edges to hit arms on, parts are constantly breaking or leaking, just poor all around. Never run a Tak, but miss running GEHL with pilot controls, which have a historic relationship with Takeuchi, and are generally simple but well designed.

[@southernhomesteadtransformatio]

I just paid $84,750 for the TL12-V2

[@rogerbing5314]

the tl12 is a sexy beast. If taken care of you will have her for a very long time..

[@southernhomesteadtransformatio]

@@rogerbing5314 That's my plan 😁

[@TheOMEGANOX]

How is that even possible msrp is like 120k isn’t it?

[@southernhomesteadtransformatio]

@@TheOMEGANOX I never ask can I pay more...nope, never LOL

[@thomaslecour2462]

Both of these machines are too susceptible to break down at a job with those back doors, a simple tree branch will damage the aluminum radiator. I just don’t understand the stupidity of this design with these machines.

[@rontopping2048]

Are you high ? Learn how to operate equipment. Work your way into a job not out.

[@robertbradshaw5984]

I got that same tl12 it's not going to turn good in high gear

[@scottmagee9709]

LOL....its not supposed to!

[@wayne3325]

Takeuchi tl12r2 would be better for what you do

[@allenbarnes7202]

I wouldn't have either one

[@randyballew8795]

There's jobs a skidsteer is just not designed to do

[@richardgreen7811]

You're making me crazy. I'm going to break it down for you in 3 steps. Say it this way in sequence ... 1. Tak- 2. Ehh- 3. Ooochie Practice it a few times and you'll have it. Otherwise, your presentation was very good.

[@jasonmessina1991]

Kubota cabs are awful so much dust gets in and is breathed in by the operator! They don’t improve there cabs much if at all and the bottom plates take in way too much dirt to the point that the controls shake. Then you have to spend a half day cleaning the bottoms pans. Kubota doesn’t care about the operator. But besides that it’s very reliable and strong. I have put over 2000 hours into the 95-2s. I personally love Cat! The heated seat, the tracks how they adjust and move with the machine. The reverse fan for cleaning on the fly! Back up cams air ride seats. The Cat thinks about the operator as long as your not a very tall guy lol. I’m actually not blowing black dust out my nose because the cabs actually sealed. A/C is much stronger all around better machine!

[@Pullhardlogging]

The cab is air tight on the cat I give you that but there is a lot I don't like about the cats

[@skliros9235]

Taka-hachi? 😌

[@tonyviers-de9qi]

No brainer . Get the Kubota

[@robertbradshaw5984]

We just got a new cat and it's alot better then the tl12

[@Pullhardlogging]

Still got that door that I don't like

[@robertbradshaw5984]

After using the cat a couple days I'm afraid to say I was wrong the tl12 has more power than the cat and the door sucks and has no no cab room