Skiing Objectives - Carving Clean Tracks

[@mensuddevic8983]

Thank you for refreshing and brightening my weekend I miss skiing so much

[@kenchester3072]

I never understood how fun carving was until I borrowed a 2005 pair of Atomic SL11 from a friend. It changed skiing empty groomers forever. Recently I bought a new pair of Atomic Redster S9's, at 59 I'm having the time of my life. I still like moguls and powder with my old skis, but mixing in carving brings fun to a whole new level.

[@section8ski]

I must admit, I wasn’t a fan of groomers either in my youth... I just wanted to hot dog off-piste. It wasn’t until I started teaching and began refining my technique that I really appreciated the loading and floating sensations of a high performance arc.

[@stanmarkle7222]

Great instruction. Helps to get ready to ski powder….can’t wait

[@emilfarcasanu5849]

good explination👍

[@rich8304]

Tip and rip

[@JanosKoranyi]

I believe you are wrong when you state that carving is an easy task and there is no need for multitasking. Is this a joke? I think the opposite statement is correct for any beginner and intermediate skier. You say: "just edge your skis and they will carve!" You should think about the requirements of this kind of edgings and the requirements of the edged turn itself. You must prepare the edgings and then keep the skis on carved edges. Certainly, with your attitude, I would not want to become your client if I were a beginner or intermediate skier.

[@section8ski]

Well, it is sort of a joke. It’s a goofy attempt to get people out other own heads. In reality, the moves to carve a clean track in the snow are actually simpler than steering a turn, but most intermediate skiers are either intimidated by the speed of a carved turn... or they focus so much on the idea of turning, that they end up twisting the skis instead of just letting the run forward through the snow. Clearly there is a lot more to a good carved turn than just a clean track, however, grasping this concept is often the first hurdle.

[@JanosKoranyi]

@@section8ski I deeply disagree. I think that there are much more important reasons to why the intermediate skiers are unable to carve the turn. I also believe that the skidded turns are much easier to execute than the carved turns.

[@section8ski]

Janos Koranyi, Clearly more recreational skiers find skidding easier, and the psychological component is only one aspect... so you are probably right. Can you explain what some of those ‘much more important reasons’ are. I’m always keen to hear new angles.

[@JanosKoranyi]

​@@section8ski No, that would lead to too many explanations, too long text. I have written a book about this subject. kzbin.infoabout

[@XboxSnoSurfer]

@@section8ski I completely get your angle... but really it’s no simpler or more difficult than a skidded or carved turn, it requires a skill. So here’s my take... If we put ourselves students in a box of there being only one way, or only one right way to do things we really limit the learning of that student and will almost undoubtedly hinder their progress overall. So if we are so adamant in an opinion that a beginner and intermediate can only make skidded turns at their level or in their learning to get to that stage, all we’ve done is given them something needs to be added later... we could relate this to teaching snowboarding to a beginner, and teaching them that they have a favoured direction to start and later teaching them switch, or we could just teach them both directions and to turn in both directions from the get go. Maybe this makes a longer journey to get to a certain level as they’re learning double the amount (kind of), but once they’re at a certain point they be more naturally able to ride with whichever lead foot they like. The majority of ski nations if not all teach some kind of variation around skidding and rotary movements in the early stages, often involving a snowplough. However, there are systems, approaches and methods where you can teach carving to a beginner and use the side cut of a ski... it simply requires the the appropriate terrain and methodology, and you could potentially make the argument that someone that learns to carve and use side cut for the early stages will find it easier to then learn to skid, as opposed to someone that learned to skid first and then carve. However, without some scientific studies done to see which movements and progressions are the most effective (to get to a a variety of ability levels) no one in the ski industry can say that any one way of doing things is the only or only right way to do things. That’s my two cents, and maybe that helps you answer this more fully to others that don’t get the concept you were trying to get across... keep up the good work Tobin!