Tiger P Review After the Update 1.20! - World of Tanks

[@jokanaan2486]

That first battle was just comedy gold, especially the IS 😆

[@gnone4140]

Best part is this guy is smurf account with 56% winrate

[@Kel.the.Bakker]

I usually pen IS 6 out of 8 times no aim, skill about 0 of 8 hahahaha what the hell was that rng, like throwing a dice and getting 0

[@whenpigsfly8178]

So was the second ''Armageddon'' game 18:15 - 19:30, lol.

[@joe125ful]

Russian balance:)

[@ottoapocalypse4412]

Stalin Blessing

[@rlets]

I think you had the true Tiger P experience. Never understood 4 stars for it's gun, total troll, 3 at best even with this buff IMO.

[@costyconstantin3814]

true

[@OneMrAnderson]

For me it seems like some guys have a good gun handling on specific tanks and some guys have the opposite. For me, for example, Leopard 1 feels the same like Tiger P for Skill in the first game, gunhandling wise. I switched equipment and testet everything, but the shots hit everywhere in the circle. It's just depressing.

Funny this. I would agree that that gun is 4*, that tank so far has treated me well.

[@vatuka1570]

“ this tank has great gun “ proceeds to bounce 12th shot in IS😢

[@wdinns]

looks like there is a huge file of soft stats, on German vehicles, when going against russians

[@vXCozmoz]

--- Whenever they say armor will be buffed on X tank --- WG: Just angle your tank. Player load gold ammo: Hehe.

[@baohungle5410]

That's one bad side of having small reticle. When you're getting bad RNG, it's even worse because you feel like your shots go everywhere but not where you aim. If you have default reticle, you will see those shots as far way from fully aimed and even when you fully aimed, the reticle is still so big that makes you think you have small chance of hitting the target.

[@OTOss8]

I had a 60% WR in this hog before the patch. I'm either going to go to 80% with this thing now or down to 40%. I have no idea which.

[@MW-te5fv]

59% before and I'm a 48% overall kinda guy. Not sure what to expect either. I hope the buff doesn't break the spell.

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

Perfect video, just as I remember this tank, 100%, lol. For me the problem of tiger p isn't the armor, it is the gun. The dispersion of shells is insane, and lack of DPM was horrible. It's still really bad tank. At the other hand, tiger h was one of my favorite tanks in the game because of its amazingly reliable gun. Thank you for the funny video of the first battle:)

[@amongusztav655]

Tiger H? You mean Tiger I?

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

@@amongusztav655 yes, I mean tiger I. It's project of henshel company, that's why it is also known as Tiger H, just as tiger p was a Porsche project. In game it has no armor, but oh man it's a fucking killing machine

[@doduyle8476]

I had to sell this tank 3 months ago due to the frustration it caused :D and now it got buffed

[@АндрейБелозеров-к6ю]

@@doduyle8476 as the video shows, it changes nothing, so you have nothing to regret:)

[@staramuha]

27:39 *F* for CC-67 for going back to unflip P.43 ter :)

[@LVArturs]

Tiger P has been great for me (before buff), forces to generally play sniping, always there's someone who doesn't know how to pen and bounces front hull. Have triple marked it, unlike IS, Tiger I, T29.

[@edwinparker6732]

55% win rate in my Tiger P, these days I use full mobility setup - improved rotation, turbo, grousers. I had always thought it was under rated; it helps me do something right.

[@nikoladd]

This game gives unlimited possibilities to miss.

[@Sargatanas2k2]

Not sure why the Tiger P still has 240 alpha with the same gun the Tiger 1 gets 280 alpha with.

[@Honzimus]

Play the german tech tree, they have accurate guns in general. 😂😂😂😂

[@ColMarcusMaxwell]

Love how they listed all buffs in the article but forgot to mention aim time got worse on Tiger (P) 🙃

[@sytricka3318]

No it didn't. It was 2.78 before the patch and it still is 2.78

[@fireshorts5789]

Didn't get worse, it was always garbage. Probably WG's way of balancing it cause the armor was actually strong like 10 years ago.

[@laszlopap8271]

@@fireshorts5789 Yeah... All theese buffs are nice 'n' all BUT why the flying F took it 5-6 years for WG to make them??? Tiger P was like the "textbook freefrag" for many-many years... Just another example that they know EXACTLY what should be done, they just absolutely dont give a cr@p about it...

[@VosperCDN]

That rng in the first battle was horrible, just never seemed to go anywhere it was aimed. Glad to see this buffed though, as it was definitely left behind when Tiger I was given the ROF buffs years ago.

[@lepaul26]

1:11 What ??? Tiger P in the face ?! That's disgusting 🤣

[@marekc.546]

When someone is average player this game and that MM when you can hit nothing make me crazy. You can't chillout after work playing this

[@SirDaffyD]

Those bounces you were getting Skill, was my night last night, RNG saying F U! Not tonight sunshine. Had 1 game in my SU-130M were at around 100m with the reticle fully aimed in on his front hull plate, and a full green dot, I got the "No Penetration" message 4 times in a row! Not a "Bounce" or "Ricochet", but "No Penetration"!! And he was stationary when I shot at him. When this happens, I know I'm not supposed to win this game. My last 5 or so weeks have been like this. It's just RNG BS! Usually I can handle this to a degree, as I usually do my bit with damage & kills, but after 5 games last night, and only 1 win, where I did bugger all, I logged out shaking with frustration. I was SOOOO close to uninstalling the game. It was that bad a night. I know you can have bad nights, But the last 5 or so weeks have been like this! It's just RNG BS!!!

[@xblastx1956]

I have had the same thing happen many times, everything you talked about. There are some things going on in the game, that everyone experiences, but only the developers know about, and everyone just calls it RNG. To keep the win rate of everyone near 50% you have to tweek things. There's no way I'm a super warrior one game and a noob the next over and over. I finally after playing a long time just decided this is not a game of skill, it's a team game. When tanks work as a team, they can win, when working as individuals, it's a long hard road. Looking at it this way helps, at least it does me.

[@SirDaffyD]

@@xblastx1956. I'm hearing ya xblastx1956. You know it not you but the game, when in one game you can't miss the pixel shots if you tried, yet can't hit a barn door tied too the front off your gun in the next. I know it's a team game, but when that happens, it's nothing to do with team play.

[@frreeebird3504]

First game is how half my WoT games went lately until I uninstalled the other day, bastards at WG 👎

[@alanwatts8239]

Everyone gangsta till Tiger P turns into Tiger OP

[@DovahFett]

It was one of the best Tier VIIs in the game before it received its HD model. That's when Wargaming decided to strip out half of the turret armor. I guess it only took them about *8 years* to decide to add it back.

[@nephalos666]

Oh look. That first game where every shot Skill takes against the IS either misses or bounces is literally how over 60% of my games go when I'm shooting at enemy tanks!!! Seriously, I'm not even joking. That's why I call it Rigged Number Generation.

[@novi82]

I don't like this game for such rng, IS had too much of this luck. It hurts to look...

[@serialman1]

Thats how 9 out of 10 games lock a like for me.....

[@scottmurray8483]

It's a disgrace, rng probably calculated on how much money you have paid to WG

[@mackomako]

The problem is the IS has great gun handling for the alpha. Tiger (P) has the same gun handling but worse alpha although more accurate if fully aimed. Tiger (P) is still crap imho.

[@rudolfkeizah4682]

Hes not fully aim cuz reticle mod

[@StoneageVultures]

​​@@mackomako the IS has been the hardest grind so far for me because of gun handling

[@MegaAlexanderiii]

you should get used to the smaller reticle size, it means the shell landing point will be more evenly spread

[@favorius]

That IS tank player's father does not work in wargaming. He is a major shareholder.

[@freddyng1843]

I remember grinding the Tiger P out during its last Tech Tree showcase and I didn't enjoy its clumsiness. The gun accuracy is somewhat troll-ish, but the biggest pain point was the bad DPM was horrible compared to the Tiger I which received some love. It looks more playable after this buff. But it is not something I want to back. However I swear to Banana Lord the VK45.01A after the Tiger P is even worse to grind.

[@DLG49]

The 8,8 is cursed because my jagdtiger8,8 sometimes it decides not to act right some battles and my shots go out the aim circle.

[@geerliglecluse5297]

Would be nice to know if changing the improved aiming unit for vertical stabilizers will make gun-handling a bit more playable. Subject for a next video, perhaps?!

[@Geeza-rc9kz]

Aren't vert stabs tier 8?

[@piaskonator2535]

3:40 wot moment

[@MikeMohawk]

RNGsus said no! No matter how close you are to the enemy or how "good" your aim is: No means NO! NOT going to happen. This is Not a Skillbased game by more means then one ;) Keep it up buddy!

[@BRACIAKSERO]

Don't worry Skill. It's not that bad. I have such an RNG in almost every second battle and that's why I am not playing and would prefer to watch You playing 😁

[@Belarius0404]

I would say the armor buff realy help along the little hp boost against tier 7 and lower but it still paper against tier 8 like most of the tier 7

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

Oh look, thats how my battles go! I aim and miss, they hit me on the move, ridiculous!

[@alpeace888]

SKIIIEL! Are you still using the smaller aim circle mod? Then thats probably why you feel like the rng is trolling you, remember that the shots often go all the way to the edge now. I think it takes a while to get used to, am struggling myself. Makes you wanna snapshot alot more than you should.

[@Dougie-ex1ov]

That first game no joke is how my guns handle every fucking game. It is messed up, glad its not only me. But to see him react like hes not used to it makes me wonder. They do fuck with RNG for some players. I have about 50% hits of where I aim like in these exact situations this is exactly what my gun does fully aimed. Not sure why that is for me but there you go. And doesnt matter what tank I play.

[@amsupravietuit]

We shall do something against this RNG mm. The game started to be unplayable, you are missing lots of shots just because the game decided that you have to lose, this is unfair an unplayable!!! WG, please think abut this, I am a modder and I know that all games has triggers and conditions, you are just making this game unplayable with this triggers!!! Even when you are activating reserves or play platoons, the game is triggering and gives you sh!tty mm and RNG, everything started to get fuck3d up just because you are ignoring the fact that you have to make us (the players) happy, not to make us quit wot because of your handicap triggers!!!!!

[@cattycats4]

I played tiger p on first day of update, got my 2nd mark easily it was very nice day but also strange as my 4x ace tanker all in higher tier games and got caco in the lower tier games

[@KurtElliott]

Cool, I had to buy the To get P back to get back on the Maus line!

[@xavierzlotorowiez316]

new code : any time a german gun aim at a russian turret, accuracy drop by - 50%, penetration by 100%

[@chung729chung]

Tiger 1 is more of a medium glass cannon, Tiger P tho… You have some armor which can be useful occasionally when u go around the corner

[@jordanandin7084]

Back when i play this porsq was the one of my first pure heavy tanks and slow as snail XD but i can tank almost even tier 8's every game is so casual to block 1500-or more i think i should buy this tank again.

[@maxsun8810]

1) Sub-caliber projectiles against the IS turret. 2) Half the time you didn't wait for the gun to be fully engaged. The game deceived you only by 50%. The other 50% is yourself. I saw in first battle the good behavior of the gun. It's not perfect, but somewhere between "average" and "good".

[@gdema2856]

This is the Toyota Prius of wot from historically point of view

[@citylumberjack9169]

I kinda liked the Tiger Pee before the buff ... I'll have to try it again now.

[@emperror85]

Lol, I haven't been playing or following WoT the last few years. But it took WG THIS long to buff Tiger P? Blitz already solved the Tiger P issue half a decade ago by buffing the shoulder and turret face armor so that Tiger P actually has some armor to work with. The lower plate and cupola are still weak spots, so lower tiers can still deal with it. Tiger I still has a better gun, so is still worth playing too. Simple solution, obvious from the start, should have been implemented around 10 years ago in WoT.

[@madogthefirst]

That IS has RNG armor.

[@neox464]

The first game was not special regarding gun accuracy, Tiger P accuracy is always like that. If you don't aim fully it always misses.

[@StixDarKlor]

I don’t know if it’s just me, but I feel that RNG overall had been worse recently. I’m getting a lot of shot miss when more than 3/4 of the reticle is over a tank….it’s insane.

[@_oPhanLong]

And I thought I was the only one who kept missing shots with this tank.

[@silimarina.]

they should have added the same alfa gun (280) from Tiger 1

[@StirbMensch]

Sadly, they forgot to buff the shell damage of the Tiger P, so that it's on par with the Tiger H. I mean, it's the same freaking gun, ffs

[@bazookajoe2625]

That first was like watching myself lol

[@oldtanker7665]

Nice... looking for "angle" so Super Hellcat fought alone and died, instead going to help him and attack enemy Super Hellcat with him ..

[@seaninness334]

That first game, Skill, Tiger P has novelty gun can't hit IS weak points or jagpanther, at all. Still beats an ace tanker out of them. LOL.

[@brianrankin5876]

Idk how a cupola could “damage” a tank, essentially it’s empty space on a tank ?

[@austria5892]

empty space? its a weakspot and its hittable! Hit the cupola will damage the tank you can also hit the commander. I dont know why would you say its an "empty space" on a tank? A lot of tank commanders will die in real life of head shots without that upside down steel bucket welded by tank engineers with holes cut on the sides to see 360 view without risking their heads outside in battle

[@maxsun8810]

Passed this tank after your video. I call him Tiger Paper. Because everyone always punches in the forehead.

[@thomasbna]

feeling like playing an accuracy troll gun... this tank is cursed

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

Talking in curses in a rigged manipulated game is ridiculous

[@Fabio-wc6rv]

But i dont get suprised...america created a war in ukraine and with all facts in front of their eyes people still think is russia fault...with this game is the same...we see the game is manipulated but people try excuse of luck or unluck or cursed...lol idiots

[@StoneageVultures]

This rng is why I'm just about done with this game. I play very rarely, and when I do, over half of my games are this with fully aimed shots. I'm only average, but it makes games impossible for me.

[@andypandy2848]

Always makes me laugh when people say to aim better. yeah with 25% RNG... lol what's the point.

[@joe125ful]

Needs those cheeks on hull buff and side armor to angle always penend by 122Mm guns.

[@bogdanraulzbinca3433]

I wonder why Tiger 1 did not got the buff , because it's the same tourret....ridiculous by WG

[@valdecirzimbros9179]

German accuracy... the published stats never tell the true story.

[@jarvisdx5132]

Attempts to showcase the formidability of the Tiger, instead we're all wanting to play the IS :D

[@jasper5878]

Tiger P was one of my Favorites in 2017, When used well she could bully all t7 heavies, She started to really struggle vs T8

[@costyconstantin3814]

The gun is not the 88 of the germans, i see that i am not the only that the gun is treating bad

[@britschmenn]

Gun is same funny random-clown as 4 years ago, when I played this thing last time..

[@josef.martin5174]

The first game is a clear example of what happens when WG says "no". A pity.

[@jeffhillstead3302]

Playing a Tiger p or the gun.. Skill I got both Tigers in blitz.. I think the alpha is too low.. I CANT MARK THEM

[@dirkk-yh7oy]

I think you missed the Shots because of using the Reticle-Mod!

[@peteoburrito920]

When I played through it a year ago I hated the gun so much

[@alex.mielus]

But Skieeeeel, there is a gentleman CC who has this saying: "stats of the tank don't matter, until you actually take it on the battlefield and play it". 🙄 And it seems he is right, it's not a conspiracy theory this time 🤣🤣

[@bloodmoney88]

yeh, nah, this... I ground the tiger P when I had to do 4 different grind tanks to "elite" the P... games too easy now.

[@unbekannternr.1353]

Way to Maus is easier now, hope for the best when i arrive at her.

[@Eshelion]

First battle - my typical rng vs russian tanks; also typical game leading to alt f4. :D

[@MrPekka2002]

Just bought it yesterday as top of the tree.

[@gobartosan5768]

gun handling is feeling like a 3 or a 2 imo because of accuracy troll and aiming time.

[@snakeplissken1754]

Westfield in a heavy with arty is just complete waste of time. The area you are fighting in has you constantly splashed, missed for xxx damage and stunned (which makes fighting pointless as it's even more of an ring fiesta).

[@johnsamson9889]

Combine that gun performance and how slow this tank is, I can see some real stinker games for Tiger P.

[@t3cker]

Aahhh Tiger P, once upon a time when gold ammo was still gold and not special, and those nasty IS ruled tier7, i loved to smack those p*ussy IS right in the face like there was no tomorrow. Everyone backed up when IS showed up, my Tiger P made them fear the almighty 8.8

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

Regarding the rng in the game. I believe it is weighted to allow for new players to survive a bit longer. I allways check the enemy stats when I miss a lot and allmost always they are sub 47%...

[@xblastx1956]

At the end of the first game, no one wants to mention the conspiracy theory that when your team is down and you are fighting more tanks than in your group or alone fighting multiple tanks, a morale killing algorithm kicks in that makes you miss, bounce and take critical hits to the point your just totally ineffective .

[@mdellyd]

you threw the first game by not helping your FULL HEALTH hellcat. You just let him die for NOTHING.

[@maxsun8810]

Tiger P - Tiger Paper.

[@pikethree]

Skill, if the algorithm has decided you are on the losing team, then you will very rarely win. It's why I hardly play anymore, your videos still keep the dream of winning alive but the owner of WG wants battles to be over quick.

[@artbobik3516]

that is the RNG I get all the time - my 152K with 329 gold gets nothing over 90% of the time - I bounce 99% of shots on light tanks with it -

[@pgruszewski]

Disgusting accuracy - nothing changed here, just as I remember it. This gun was always like this, so I'm confused with your good opinion about it.

[@chris_hisss]

This looks like the old switcheroo, buffed paper stats, nerfed hidden stats. 1 battle maybe unlucko but you had three bad battles, that handling needs to go down in stars, while protection goes up. I don't remember the gun ever being so horrible. I bought it because I assumed it was better because I saw thumbnail on this video and now I feel very mislead. It has BZ 176 levels of aimtime. Damn I hate this game sometimes.

[@bartekgarbaczewski420]

RNG gets a vaseline (in the first battle)... BZ? DeathStar? No, Tiger P ;)

[@BroncosoftGames]

I realize that aming time is trolling you, you have to aming completely

[@Guamurphy1952]

thnx

[@lanelesic]

My dream come true. Skill playing Tiger (P) :D

[@FirestreakRodimusPr]

Skill: complains about Arty. Also Skill: Complains about tanks going hull down and spamming gold at pixel sized weakspots.

[@damnedjuggernaut1051]

Most intelligent 800 wn8 player

[@DS-wl5pk]

They’ll literally double armor but can’t double gun handling? Not even a single dispersion statistic?

[@Bagheera2]

Rotation device skeeeeeel

[@pen8142]

I see you met your dad's boss's kid piloting that IS.

[@dylonlachenal5294]

ah, finally some rng similar to what most people deal with

[@Bigbacon]

When tiger 1 get the buffs

[@kiwicory100]

Tiger p used to be good then got nerfed now back as it was before

[@SlazakGrzesiek-ZootopiaComics]

Sorry, Skill, but 4 stars for gun handling is a joke Or maybe you need to change improve aiming unit for vertical stabilizer with your playstyle

[@sisneki2022]

😀still same feeling as on original P tiger

[@pen8142]

So far it looks like WG is "rebalancing," tanks, when they really need to fix their garbage RNG.

[@ivanmarkovic8885]

Such gun behavior equals new keyboard for me...