The 5 WORST MACRO MISTAKES You MUST AVOID! - League of Legends

[@skillcapped]

What is the worst Macro mistake that you see your games? 👇👇👇👇

[@superfranky8054]

Midlaners not rotating

[@Spygon]

Chasing down one enemy team member instead of doing any thing else. I have seen a team fight where they lost 4 members to our 1 then decided to chase this Tahm Kench around for a solid minute instead of farming,counter farming,taking a tower shoving a lane literally anything else would have been a better idea.

[@robertmunroe9635]

People not letting the inhib go at 17 minutes to farm easy catch up xp

[@emmanuel39409]

Repeatedly ARAMing mid and not pushing side lanes when the enemy team is turtled under towers mid and the tier 2 towers are still up in top and bot lane

[@yoyo80s41]

People repeating their mistakes through the game. 4 drakes and 2 nash stolen is my record but that's because of me spliting (1v2) apparently.

[@dudaseifert]

I agree about dragon being bait. but there are some teams that will actively throw if they see you don't care about dragon as a jungler. i try to identify these teams and play more for drag, but it's rare

[@KaiG89]

Because it's not a bait, there is a reason why Agurin prioritizes taking drakes. Drakes gold value are nearly tha same like baron but it's way easier to take, it's crazy how much games I lost because my jungler refused to drake free drakes and the enemies ended up getting soul with 4 to 0 drakes with a losing botlane.

[@dudaseifert]

@@KaiG89 it's mostly bait unless you know what you are doing. I play champions that take it easily so i usually do them but if you're good at other types of champions there is no need to do them

[@kcStranger]

Yeah, I think the video overstates the point a bit and makes it seem like you should just ignore dragon. I think the accurate point is, you shouldn't force dragon or try overly risky takes or fights for it when trading objectives can often get you similar or greater value.

[@fabiobianchi7268]

What the video means is dragon it's a bait If u could die to take it. If the enemy is already doing it and have vision control u should always give. Or in the case shown if there is something important to do. If it's free just take it ..especially if u can do it solo

[@kcStranger]

@@fabiobianchi7268 You're right. Again, I just think that the video makes it sound like you should ignore dragon, which just isn't the case. (Maybe it's true if you're smurfing and are skilled enough to just solo carry with an individual gold lead.)

[@gamera5160]

Nah. 2 pings are good. You'll tilt your team if you ping them 6 times. You also can only shot call if you're doing well in the game. If you're behind, no one wants to hear your opinion.

[@typhon1861]

If my team mate pings 6 times I'm muting them. No matter if it's 30 seconds in the game or 30 mins. It's annoying and people that ping that much don't stop, they constantly comment on every play trying to back seat play every fight while also inting themselves.

[@BigBoyBlue]

This was perfect! I needed a type of checklist type of approach to Macro and you guys nailed it. Thanks for this.

[@IamMrTeabo]

yea if someone pings more than twice they get muted that shit is tilting

[@Shuyin128MK4]

"Ping up to 6 times, your teammates will listen" Yeah, no. People tend to think that someone pinging 6 times is tilted. I'd say maybe 4 at most.

[@Hardsky5123]

It works. At least 80% of times

[@HappyArchipelago]

They are missing the most important concept here. People will only trust your pings if you previously haven’t overpinged and you have a high KDA / hard won lane. That’s why they listen to 90% of challenger pings but not mine.

[@N3207H05]

@@HappyArchipelago so you have a lot challenger players in your games?

[@HappyArchipelago]

@@N3207H05 no, but I watch skillcapped’s VOD’s of their challenger players smufing in low elo.

[@davidbybee9930]

@@Hardsky5123 not a change in hellit work 80% of the time

[@agent_p.]

I usually respect whatever you guys have to say, but the first point on this list was a huge underestimation of other players' ignorance + how many just mute all for their mentals' sake

[@joshabrogena1240]

nobody looks at game state relative to the entire teams which is so fucking frustrating everyone just plays perfect macro in the lens of their own champion it's so stupid

[@nlrs6212]

10:10 lets be honest if you do this in gold solo que the morde nami and irelia will get tilted and int

[@krex_mg]

thats the problem with league even if you doing great sometimes players just want to int or get insta tilted after 1 ping

[@mattiiful]

As a supp main, I hate it when my jungler tries to force drake when my lane opponents are alive and not even pushed under tower. I always try to tell them to take the first herald isntead of first drake. 70% of the time they do listen an rotate to the herald as it's literalyl free. We know the enemy jungler is gonna take it so why not go for it. Same with saying "give up (spawning) drake and go for baron?" Especialyl when you saw the enemy support bot side, you know they have no vision. Unfortuantely people tunnelvision on drake so hard, and I seriously think about switching roles jsut for this lol

[@ZTheTinyTonTerror]

This video goes out the fucking window when you remember this is the most toxic community of all time and people are just as likely to completely fucking ignore your pings or worse get triggered and troll because of them.

[@bakurman1529]

damn this is a very underrated chanel

[@teitonii]

i already knew all this but this video is above and beyond most of them and i will be recommending it to my friends

[@rogeriomueller]

A video that tells you the secret to climb is spam ping. Lol

[@3030-z1w]

It sorta is though lol. There's a reason pro play is a whole other game and it's communication. When you actually ping effectively and fluently it's 10000x easier to work as a team and win games.

[@rv1135]

This. If I ping 2 times I get flamed and or people will int my lane.

[@elusive3843]

6 pings from anyone means they get insta muted. i hate pings spam

[@HolisticPrespective]

I recommend not 6 pinging and making macro calls like Baron and Drag if you have a feeding negative KDA. The community is full of toxic and unstable people, so teammates are only likely to listen to your pings if you are playing well in THAT game. Learn how to get fed in a game with your micro, and you will have more control over your teams macro. That's my personal experience, at least.

[@LukeA471]

You are really giving people too much credit on listening to pings. If you do them more they just hate your more

[@EarlHare]

mind control your team by pinging them? Have you guys played on EUW at all? I really don't think you have.

[@Sir_Horde]

As a Supportmain, with 60% WR in 210 games 2022, i can say that Supports will almost never place wards around Nash in low elo. And thats a huge mistake. I try the JGL role and my entire map was dark... almost always dark. Guys pls place wards around Nash! 1:30 Nashspawntimer is perfect for placing wards. U musn't go deep af if u are not save. But riverwards are always possible. And u will see how much impact 3 simple wards will have. Catching enemy JGL? Easy! Kill enemy ADC on pit meanwhile 4 man Aram botlane? EASY! Why? U can see it now! xD It is that simple trust me. I win a lot of games with only river wards or passive wards. Seeing someone solo can be a huge timingwindow

[@KasaiiruAMV]

I know a lot about this from playing jungle, this season i decided to play supp cause jggl was too mentally taxing. Even when i ping 6 times to back off or do something, it gets completely ignored and then they proceed to die or be too slow and i get flamed :))) ive been doing the tricks in this vid for months

[@flameofmage1099]

Same, I play support and jungle and this is pretty standard stuff from what I can tell, but of course players will be new OR JUST be unknowledgeable.

[@LabrnMystic]

Baron tip. Good. Spam ping? Are you kidding me? Players will spam ping when they int. I ping 2-3 max and before an enemy gets there. The number of times people will spam ping when it's too late gets people tilted and muted.

[@lefroste6370]

i've won games on the spot by spam pinging on my team's head to end, and spam pinging my team to do baron works 9/10 times. sounds like a skill issue

[@xArneH]

Am I the only one not agreeing with the baron call proposed on 3:30? Yes you gain baron, but you lose the hextech soul which is spawning in roughly 40 seconds! In my opinion farming gold / xp and basing to buy items so you can show up early to establish vision around the dragonpit is the correct play since you will be forced to take the fight or lose the most powerful soul for free. If they take baron at 26:40 they lose all tempo on the map for a buff ton 3 people and does nothing in the upcoming fight.

[@kur.5657]

bro i can already tell you are gold/silver plat maxxx baron here is insane massive pressure they get next drake almost garaunteed plus towers in mid/side considering they are ahead

[@xArneH]

@@kur.5657 I'm emerald 3 what are you talking about, you shouldn't comment something you know nothing about

[@kur.5657]

@@xArneH sorry bro

[@lukasausen]

no, if you get baron your team gets 1500 gold, 300 for everyone, plus the baron passive +ap/ad, +the minon pressure, pressure wich will be used to push waves further meaning more gold for the next drake, so you not only get pressure + possible towers you will also get more SAFER gold. also not to mention that the hand of the baron passive AT MINIMUM gives you 12 AD + 20 AP, FOR THE WHOLE TEAM, meaning that your team gets 4k gold worth of stats every player gets about 800 gold of stats PLUS the minion passive and the faster recall meaning you get TEMPO to get to places AND you get pressure from the better minions and damage, baron is super underrated, if you do baron AT MINIMUM your team will be 4k ahead from the passive and at maximum about 16k in stats plus the 1500 from the kill itself. baron is ALWAYS worth it specially as i saw youre emerald at higher elos people tend to be able to actually finish games with baron buff so if you can get that with a OK chance to do drake after then its worth.

[@501control6]

advice: spam ping them asap! meanwhile: "spam ping me more" a summoner has disconnected

[@Lkabss]

One thing I *constantly* see from my friends when I watch them: They ping like a couple times, and not even on teammates. I say: "Ping talon missing" -> *pings ONCE in their own lane*. "Omg I pinged missing and bot still died". How tf do you expect bot to see that? If they saw a single question mark ping mid while they were csing and trading, they wouldve noticed talon missing. There wasnt even a point in pinging at that point. Ping these things: 1. Your lane -> this communicates whose lane is missing 2. Where they probably are currently 3. Your teammates screens (danger pings, multiple) 4. Ping who exactly is missing (multiple) 5. What they will use to kill your teammates. (Once) Successfully ping all 5 of these things and your lanes die to roams like 80% less. Mentally preparing is 80% of league, so doing the work for them makes their job of not screwing it up for you way easier.

[@kcStranger]

Honestly, if my teammates ping more than 3 times at once then I usually mute them.

[@vba2469]

Let me just say that the motion graphics and editing are *on point* on these videos

[@DGrimReeper]

so thats why everyone pings spams so much. jesus

[@ItwardTenno]

Actually you are wrong about dragon.... dragons are the only adventage that isn't influenced by shutdown bounty or catchup xp... untill riot fix those two, drags are still way better than what you think they are

[@GrammeStudio]

yeah. there's no way this narrator has ever stepped foot into the jungle

[@flameofmage1099]

Skill Capped trying to get us reported for being toxic with that first one lmao

[@mmorkinism]

Unless you actually write curse words in chat, you won't get punished for such things.

[@davidbybee9930]

@@mmorkinismover pinging can get you muted

[@davidbybee9930]

if someone ping s more then 3 time i mute them '

[@chocolatequente4531]

the first mistake is the type of thing that makes me insta mute anyone 💀💀

[@SubtleSlacker]

In another video you say that taking dragon when you’re behind is the best thing you can do because it pushes soul back five minutes and allows you to lessen the burden of the gold deficit with time/experience. But in this you say it’s the least important unless you’re very far ahead. Sometimes it feels like there is no cohesion between these videos

[@alliekingsley7919]

Y'all ping me a dozen times and I STG I'm muting you then reporting you for spam pinging. 🙄

[@LochlanRibon-ChaudatSansnom1]

Problem of Drake, it's that some souls are just way too op. I'm sorry, but giving 10% movespeed to everyone in the team permanently, and giving even more after using ult, can litterally loose you the game, just because they kite you out.

[@bainbonic]

All this focus on baron and dragons are starting to make me realise why my win rate is higher on jungle than any other role even though I don't main jungle, I already knew everything mentioned here with those two objectives.

[@arthurbarbosa9502]

Spam ping might just be the single worst advice this channel has put out to date...

[@krex_mg]

spam ping is 50/50 sometimes they understand sometimes they hard int

[@napiernygma8075]

this is so wrong and misleading at so many levels... if you follow all these rules by the teeth you might lose more depending on your playstyle and champion pool 1 number advantage almost never matter,..... it's all about where is the enemy team and yes vision can help with that 2 related to number one and kind of contradicting yourself , a lot of players ignore free barons because it's too scary and inconvenient 3 again related to 1 or 2 this can be very misleading... there is a reason why korean with bad macro still able to climb. all depends on your mechanics and if you are early or late comb with winning or losing lane 4 again depends on the team if you have a sion or jax top splitting and there top lanner is bot side then fighting is a good idea even if you lose 5 i dont even know if i need to say anything ? .. do i really need to say why aram mid is bad ? overall in all five points there is lack of alot of information regarding your decision making 3v4 or even 2v4 does not always mean that if the enemy team got 15/0 bel veth and you got here at the price of 2 of your teammates and your jungler is still alive 8 out of 10 you should be forcing baron even if there is no vision. yes dragons does not matter early game but not always it depends on the dragon and calculating is a wave or a plat worth it or not and if you have losing or winning lane (there is so much more misleading and missing information i want to talk about but i am too lazy to type so if by some miracle somebody read all of that good bye and have a nice day)

[@escapegrass]

Just don't play adc and you'll be fine, and if you play botlane, just pick any mage bot laner. Only role that can't carry games is adc (unless the stars align and there's no enemy to shut you down (Vi, Camilee, Blitz, basically 50% of the roster.)

[@SenesLULZ]

Truth. Adc is way too team dependent so have to play some form of mage to compensate

[@escapegrass]

so true, i mained karthus bot for a bit and i would smash, have great games and good wr.@@SenesLULZ

[@drifta19darealist]

Lol these are great points but yall are wildly overestimating ppl responding to pings. 90 percent is a fever Dream.

[@syndrac6254]

Me: Pings 5 times to fall back Random Smooth brain player: *Mutes my pings*

[@PountyWB]

literally me (/muteall)

[@dungtien4375]

@@PountyWB now you know why you hardstuck iron 5

[@ElReyDeNoche]

They say you're spam pinging while blatantly showing that 4 retreat pings isn't enough to get their attention.

[@yellybeam2869]

@@dungtien4375 He can at least play the game. I reckon you have a perma ban for harassment/toxicity

[@warwickthekingmaker7281]

literally what skillcapped is telling them to do. Skill capped is literally telling people to be bad teammates

[@kurt6524]

With the changes to dragons, is the advice about dragons in this video still true? It seems playing for soul is more of a win condition now.

[@Hkolberg01]

2 3 and 4 are SO prevalent at low elo and i didnt even realize it. I think i climbed like 5 ranks after watching this video

[@medvedik__9989]

So I shouldnt never help to get drakes after they got buff to late game soul

[@kazu6793]

Bro ur 1st tip is spamming pings ? I personally ignore all pings and whenever my teammates spam ping me I usually do the opposite of what they want because they annoyed me with their stupid pings.

[@N3207H05]

might not be so smart tbh... imagine someone is screaming fire! and you ignore that cause he annoyed you. same principle.

[@LabrnMystic]

​@@N3207H05true, but what if they keep screaming fire every time they see any sort of heat? The number of times I see people spam pinging in frustration or when people are already in a fight is just annoying

[@N3207H05]

@@LabrnMystic yeah thats understandable. no clue how much/or useless they ping in low elo.

[@kazu6793]

@@N3207H05 I'll listen to pings if the person who's pinging knows what the fuck they're doing but I'll never listen to someone who's 3/11/0 3 cs/min.

[@N3207H05]

@@kazu6793 why? i listen to pings cause they make sense to me, not because the person has a good kda.

[@hyulic4151]

I wonder if you'd still place drake in last if you were playing Shyvana ? Even for her drake is "trash" ?

[@ulisesmarin9217]

Depends, do you think 5 armor/mr worth it?

[@TheRealVandpistolen]

Shyvana passive is trash, you gain 5 armor Per drake, and you dont even need to be helping killing it, aslong as your team kills it. You will most likely gain an average of 20 armor Per game and in some cases 25. But extremely rarely 30 or above. Tl dr its not worth it

[@E1barto212]

Watching this video a little late, "Ping the maximum of 6 times before you get locked out." The new max is 3. Thanks Riot.

[@milos95092]

I watch skillcapped a lot and u guys helped me a lot to win lane and macro, but when it comes to low elo soloq teamfights and macros i think nobody could help us down in silver and gold. I always do what u said for baron always ping always call my teammates but some people are not that smart in this game, i lost more than dozen games bcs we didnt get free baron that is like 2-3 divisions worth of lp. Its low elo soloq and i think nobody can help us, in theory yes but i disagree that in 90% of the time people will listen to pings bcs they dont and thats the fact. As i said you really helped me to win my lane and in 80% of the games i do it, and i listened to everyone streamers and u that say "u have to carry, u have to be this and that" how can i carry when i have 0/7 yasuo in mid, my botlane lost and enemy MF is full lethality build by minute 20, enemy kayn is also full lethality deletes u with one Q and I should carry 1v9, idk everyone should play in low elo soloq for almost a month and see what it feels like to stomp ur lane get 1500 gold advantsge just to loose to one Q fed kayn or 3 auto attack master yi or mf or some similar cancer that is in the game

[@N3207H05]

yeah but the point is: the enemy team is just as bad... you are the only consistent factor in your games...

[@yellybeam2869]

Best advice - main and play only one champion with the potential to solo carry(and be honest about how you play, if you were the strongest member on the team and didn't win, it's likely that it was YOU who griefed). This is coming from a Gold hardstuck until I learned 101 ways to play Kayle and now I'm diamond with 70% wr. There will always be counters for your main but trust me, if you play a champ enough you'll adapt your runes/builds/playstyle which will win you more games in the long term.

[@SenesLULZ]

@@N3207H05not quite. When I go 8/4/4 adc even in the midst of a 1/5 top lane who feeds a monster renekton, 1/4 jg who feeds a diving kayn and a 3/6 mid lane who feeds a zed…. Can’t just be “I’m not good enough to carry”

[@N3207H05]

@@SenesLULZ on average (of course). some games you feed hard and get carried other games you play like a god and your team ints.

[@lukasausen]

@@SenesLULZif you die more than 3 times in a game youre DEFINITLY playing wrong, if youre 8/4 then most definitly you gave advantage to enemy team with shutdowns and etc, kills in league are undervalued what mathers is gold/EXP diference and if you die youre giving enemy team advantage, die less and you can win more games, not every game is winable but every game is a learning experience.

[@WhiteDawson]

Lol Mistake one causes me to auto mute teammates ... so I'm not sure if its good advice or not

[@Moijau1]

That's why you are silver and never getting out neither in season 100

[@WhiteDawson]

@@Moijau1 sure buddy

[@Hector_Solaris]

3:20 well that's certainly a mistake in the video editing

[@niklas7355]

I cant belive skill capped just tought me to spamm ping😂

[@MAX_DJM]

you should teach us how to play around our bad teamtes who dont listen to pings instead of how to make them listen

[@natephill7041]

I have been stuck in paper 87 for 10 years.

[@muhammied]

intro until 0:23 describes the situation im in.

[@hrlichma5270]

In 2 -5 games my teammate's int intentional when i ping or say FU stfu xD then go dying

[@hughjanus87]

Now i can bait ping so much more efficiently!

[@vmarcelo49]

i didnt quite get how that was a free baron in mistake 2, graves has no mana, the 3 players that were alive were 60% hp or less, just taking mid t2 and preparing for dragon seems such much better

[@kcStranger]

Ok genuinely though, sometimes dragon is free and you should actually take it 😅

[@gabrielpartanen1194]

Anyone pings me more than twice I mute their pings. No matter what.

[@squigy3605]

no

[@Milo_Malo]

try this in lan , lol impossible, every game is a meme game

[@LetsGetJuicy]

Yeah no you can’t control bad teams funneling gold to your opponent.

[@phantomapprentice6749]

You forgot one that is Unique to Bronze/Iron : Players don't buy penetration or anti-heal and you lose the game because they are at a huge disadvantage typically top lane at the mid to late game. And this cascade into losing across all lanes leaving you stuck at bronze no matter what you do.

[@lukasausen]

if they dont buy then buy it yourself, honestly if youre stuck at BRONZE you just suck at playing league.

[@vache6443]

I already do all this, I destroy golds and plats, diamonds even few times in lane and still lose because I can't solocarry. I'm still in bronze, they won't ever listen or not go 0/15

[@nightloot4949]

probably go watch a few videos on how to win the game with a lead then

[@ElMarlish]

xd yeah right

[@ElMarlish]

im barely a high gold player and it takes me like no time to climb out of bronze, so maybe try to self reflect a little more than that

[@vache6443]

@@ElMarlish I'll self reflect when my match history isn't filled with 19/2 16/5 12/1 defeat scores and topped damage charts and 3/16 teammates

[@ElMarlish]

@@vache6443 xd even if you really did those scores, if you don't manage to carry with so many kills, you really are terribly bad hahaha

[@x_asg_x]

Isn't the priority order Minions->Plates->Kills->Anything->Dragon (kills are less than plates bc bounty system?)

[@Genevagirls-h2x]

Drakegon

[@norinalquasa4649]

I get the dragon is useless but, its kind of necessary for shyvana

[@summonersummoner9536]

Clean ur discord

[@value21value]

Wow yes amazing tell us now how this is gonna ever change when league has 90% rtrdsin its playerbase.

[@thegoldenapple5314]

1st

[@kelvinmendez7013]

Yeah im bad its my fault for going 17-2 while 3 ally are 0- 13