How MTB Suspension Works Explained For Dummies

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Skills With Phil

Skills With Phil

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@goozzz666
@goozzz666 5 жыл бұрын
EDUCATIONAL VIDEO ON KZbin?! NO CRASHES NO CLICKBAIT NO STUPID THINGS??? ARE YOU CRAZY?! GOD BLESS YOU PHIL, THE LAST WARRIOR OF KNOWLEDGE!
@gabrielleute9911
@gabrielleute9911 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it’s still something you have to buy
@maplic
@maplic 5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Leute what do you HAVE to buy here? I just watched it for free
@gabrielleute9911
@gabrielleute9911 5 жыл бұрын
@@maplica fork or shock
@HKgaming86
@HKgaming86 5 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielleute9911 some skills with phil stickers
@gabrielleute9911
@gabrielleute9911 5 жыл бұрын
@@HKgaming86 haha
@FatGuyBiking
@FatGuyBiking 5 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best explanations of different suspension systems this will definitely be a go to video I will recommend to people wondering how suspension adjustments work and generally just how suspension works. This is a wonderfully informative video and even though you think your animations skills are lacking I thought they were great!! Awesome video!!
@Wizler71
@Wizler71 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I admit that I wasn't terribly interested but I watched anyway. The examples and illustrations are well done, they explain the mechanics clearly and I learned some things. In the end, I found this quite interesting!
@pierrebroccoli.9396
@pierrebroccoli.9396 5 жыл бұрын
Second. A very to the point and well explained video for explaining what the shock does including High and Low Speed Compression which would also apply to Damping. Thanks.
@GlitchyPics
@GlitchyPics 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more.
@sbw1980
@sbw1980 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a continuation of this where you're out on the trail and adjusting things and marking the differences and referencing this video (which is an awesome explanation). Great job on this explanation. I love the "how stuff works" approach. I learned something from this.
@laneherrlinger7478
@laneherrlinger7478 5 жыл бұрын
Please
@MTBMOR
@MTBMOR 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea...I would love to see this while you are prepping for a race
@peibikeguy
@peibikeguy 5 жыл бұрын
I think your "Limited" animation skills actually work better here to explain this in a simple manner. This is a great explanation! Thanks Phil.
@skardi1
@skardi1 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Phil thats the clearest explanation i have seen. Keep up the good work.
@DominicToretto-nf4xn
@DominicToretto-nf4xn 4 жыл бұрын
This seems sarcastic
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 5 жыл бұрын
If you taught science in high school, kids would never drop out.
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 5 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed teachers who took complicated topics and made them simple instead of trying to brute force the learning of information.
@mtbmike
@mtbmike 5 жыл бұрын
i am a mechanical engineer and let me tell you that is one great explanation on how bike suspensions work, there are a lot more details on designs and fluid mechanics but your video goes straight to point. Great job
@BenNemec
@BenNemec 5 жыл бұрын
That demonstration with the spring-loaded plunger might be the best visualization of how a suspension works that I've seen yet!
@patrolshreddin5609
@patrolshreddin5609 5 жыл бұрын
You look as bored as me when watching those types of videos. Thanks for all that you do for the MTB community.Great breakdown and easy to follow, just what the Dr. ordered !
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 5 жыл бұрын
I personally find them interesting, but a lot of times they cab be really hard to follow. Lots of jargon is thrown around which makes them very hard to follow.
@FDB77
@FDB77 5 жыл бұрын
The “S H O C K I N G” truth. Jesus Phil... 😂
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the suspense didn't kill you... I'll see myself out.
@FDB77
@FDB77 5 жыл бұрын
Why Phil why?! 😂😂
@dummkompf
@dummkompf 5 жыл бұрын
somehow I missed the puns and just saw clickbait. lol it was actually a great video though
@leanasf821
@leanasf821 5 жыл бұрын
I almost break down in tears
@angelikult
@angelikult 5 жыл бұрын
I think he prefers just Phil
@ThisIsGoingDownhill
@ThisIsGoingDownhill 5 жыл бұрын
You are like a "moron whisperer". I never really understood the way the adjustments worked before. I knew what they were for, but understanding how they work goes a lot further into being able to use them properly. I have experienced this a few times watching your videos. Your knowledge is pure. The ability to explain fairly complex things in a simple and concise manner is a bit of an art. You sir are an artist. Thank you.
@garethluke9146
@garethluke9146 Жыл бұрын
After pouring through countless, well the first 90 seconds, of videos on suspension I finally see your clear as glass explanation and application. I second the comment “If you only taught high school science….” “Well played sir”.
@slappdaddy8
@slappdaddy8 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Thanks for bringing this stuff back to earth for us common folk to understand!!! Several months after buying my bike - Santa Cruz 5010 - I realize that I left the shop without knowing the language I needed to dial-in my ride. Thanks to great KZbinrs, like yourself - I FINALLY feel as if I have dialed-in a great ride!!! Thanks!
@WERTYBD
@WERTYBD 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, this is the best suspension video I’ve ever seen. I work in a shop and literally until this video I could not wrap my head around low and high speed compression adjustments.
@cliffsangelsphotography
@cliffsangelsphotography 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Phil just sent it... with science!🤟 Your explanation was the best I've ever seen. It was simple and easy to understand. Keep up the great work!
@Bayplaces
@Bayplaces 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard a handful of lifelong bike mechanics explain suspension both in person and online. Two of them are at the top in terms of industry recognition. None of them explained it as concisely. Well done Phil. I hope they all just reference your video in the future.
@profesam8457
@profesam8457 5 жыл бұрын
Don’t depricate your animations. They were terrific. I thought I understood it before but. No. Now I really do. Thanks Phil!
@mtbshredder5719
@mtbshredder5719 Жыл бұрын
one of the best illustrations of how it actually works. Awesome work!
@benridesbikes6975
@benridesbikes6975 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously one of the most concise and clear explanations on KZbin. The animations were on point too!
@crrico83
@crrico83 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a bike mechanic and have tried thousands of times to explain this to people. Brilliant job man. Question though. Who's idea was syringe thing? I’m kind of jealous I didn’t think of it. It’s a perfect way to help people visualize what’s going on.
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 5 жыл бұрын
Mine :) I've been had this video idea brewing for a while. And Hailey works in a biology lab. The hardest part was figuring out how to visually demonstrate these things.
@crrico83
@crrico83 5 жыл бұрын
Skills With Phil absolutely brilliant. I might even set something like this up at the shop for demonstration. Credit for the idea will go directly to you😁
@nikkeijin-man7025
@nikkeijin-man7025 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect! Simple explanations + used layman's terms + simplified diagrams = VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.
@jakegoss547
@jakegoss547 Жыл бұрын
Just seeing this now for the first time after a google search for the topic out of curiosity and I gotta say Phil, that is one of the best explanations of sus ever! Always crushing the MTB content dude!
@eagle3906
@eagle3906 5 жыл бұрын
You said on your podcast what you wanted to do regarding these tutorials and you absolutely nailed it. Best suspension video ever.
@churnstyle
@churnstyle 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, this is a great video. Nice animations dude
@jinda8897
@jinda8897 4 жыл бұрын
Been watching a lot of suspension videos and still cannot get how it works but this is so far the best I've seen. I don't know why I'm only seeing this now.
@Holotype
@Holotype 5 жыл бұрын
Phil, this is *really* well done. Hits the fundamentals, clear, concise, doesn't distort facts in an effort to simplify. The only thing I can suggest is slightly lower levels for the background track!
@sdoobzfishing2308
@sdoobzfishing2308 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you go so in depth with the explanation but do it in a way everyone can understand, Great video!
@TheBreaded
@TheBreaded 5 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really good explanation of how shocks work for anything. Good job!
@rupedog
@rupedog 5 жыл бұрын
Great and as always super clear explanation...whether its teaching jumping or explaining rebound, u are simply the best at explaining it. Period. 👏👏👏👏
@garyblenkinsopp2394
@garyblenkinsopp2394 5 жыл бұрын
Thought that you did a great job of explaining it Phil. Animation more than adequate to explain a properly nuanced subject. I feel that I will understand suspension for AT LEAST the next hour. I made need to rewatch to consolidate my knowledge (and tweak my suspension adjustments) .Thanks man, good job
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Hands down, probably the best explanation video for laymen I've seen to date. So simple, straightforward, yet very informative at.
@ross_rusher0243
@ross_rusher0243 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Phil with explaining how suspension works! You're pretty much spot on! All you need to cover is the high and low speed rebound and you're pretty much covered most of it.
@dominickhillwig8544
@dominickhillwig8544 5 жыл бұрын
As I slowly learn how to do some of my own bike work suspension is 1 thing I have no idea about, and to avoid being "that guy" who tears my bike apart and messes it up more I don't even consider anything shock related. Thanks for picking this topic Phil
@niklask.7333
@niklask.7333 5 жыл бұрын
Even my english skills are limited, I understood everything. Love the video. Thank you for explanation!
@mattgies
@mattgies 5 жыл бұрын
Just started the video and I'm already stoked that you called out the "damper" vs "dampener" issue. Your shock has adjustable damping; if you want to adjust your dampening you should get a fender. Edit: Start to finish, an excellent video with great demonstrations and illustrations. Quite possibly the best short primer on how suspension works.
@vikhmanboys966
@vikhmanboys966 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched 5 different video on this. And finally someone who enlightened me with this simple but yet very clever technology.
@ivzednem
@ivzednem 5 жыл бұрын
Just started MTB and I am happy to see a good explanation on how the suspension works! Awesome!
@chrisfoster3772
@chrisfoster3772 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I am building up my first full suspension bike. My frame is supposed to arrive vis USPS this afternoon. I just got both of my tubeless tires seated this morning. I will adjust suspension using this video. I love you
@SPFhealthy
@SPFhealthy 5 жыл бұрын
The best suspension video I've seen so far for helping me to understand it. Thank you for all the work you put into this video
@MTBTrailRider
@MTBTrailRider 5 жыл бұрын
I love your explanation on the suspension... but can you help with understanding WHY you would want volume spacers and why you would want to adjust your damper/rebound settings and how they effect your riding? If I have higher PSI in my rear shock, I should have my rebound settings slower... but that's just what I hear. How does that benefit my riding vs having higher psi and faster rebound? How does that effect my riding when I have volume spacers? I suppose I just dont understand what I should be feeling when I am on the trails.
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that something I wanted to put in this video, but it honestly took me forever to do this so I had to scale the scope of the video back a bit. The first step of suspension is dialing in your spring rate. You do this before adding any compression daping Your spring rate basically determines how rebound damping to run. So ideally you want ~20-25% sag Scenario 1) You're a heavy rider and you need 90psi in your fork to get ~25% sag You like to send it off big drops, and at 90psi you are constantly bottoming out really harsh many times a run. To solve this you'd add a volume reducer and go ride. Let's say now, riding the same terrain you're still bottoming out quite a bit. Add a 2nd volume reducer and go ride. This time, riding the same terrain you're still bottoming out but only 2-3 times per run. Now you can add a few clicks of High Speed Rebound. Compression Damping is used for fine tuning Scenario 2) You're a light rider and you need 60psi in your fork to get ~25% sag You like to send it off big drops, but even at 60psi but completely unable to bottom your suspension out. Check to see if you have any volume reducers installed, if yes remove 1 volume reducer. Let's say now, riding the same terrain you're still not bottoming out. If you have another volume reducer to remove, do it. By this point you should be able to bottom your fork out If you still can't bottom your suspension out running the correct sag and no volume reducers, Try running a less PSI and little more sag ~30%. If you still can bottom out your suspension something is wrong; call Fox, Rockshox, Cane Creek support Hopefully this helped a little?
@benjaminmarquez7246
@benjaminmarquez7246 5 жыл бұрын
@@SkillsWithPhil thanks man you solve me all the doubts I had... great video....
@clarkpark
@clarkpark 5 жыл бұрын
Skills With Phil what about low speed compression? Can you give me a scenario for that.
@MTBTrailRider
@MTBTrailRider 5 жыл бұрын
Skills With Phil wow! That’s awesome. So much good info. I weigh 185 lbs and when I was bottoming our my forks or shock I was just adding more air... #fail or would just increase the damper. We just had a new jump line built in Chattanooga that’s comparable to the trails in Knoxville - baker creek area - and learning to adjust my suspension settings for jumps too... so much to learn!
@muddygirl111
@muddygirl111 5 жыл бұрын
​@@clarkpark Phil here (I'm borrowing Hailey's Computer for a second to reply) Low Speed compression is for things that will compress your fork/shock slowly. For example, you're coming to a stop in the parking lot and you pull your front brake. That's going to cause your weight to shift forward and your front end is going to want to dive. That's where low speed compression comes in. If you don't have enough LSC, your front end will dive. If you have your LSC completely maxed out, it'll resist the forces and your front end shouldn't dive nearly as much.
@pseudomugilidae5897
@pseudomugilidae5897 5 жыл бұрын
That's probably the clearest explanation of high vs. Low speed damping I've seen. Cheers!
@mattmiller5673
@mattmiller5673 5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have heard and seen. Now I can adjust my suspension and know what I am actually doing, thank you Phil!!!
@ChadLudlow
@ChadLudlow 4 жыл бұрын
i know a lot about suspension components coming from the auto industry, but this was a clear and concise explanation dude!
@dannydigtl
@dannydigtl 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! This explains how the shocks work, but could you describe how this applies to different situations on the trail? Ie, how do you actually dial in your suspension while riding? What tuning problems do you find and how do you fix them?
@seanknight9898
@seanknight9898 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Best visual representation I’ve seen. This will help beginners really under stand what they’re trying to control.
@SkillsWithPhil
@SkillsWithPhil Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean! This one was a really challenging to illustrate/animate, but I'm glad it paid off.
@sethjennings1045
@sethjennings1045 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation on the different adjustments, I think a good follow up would be going through the processes of dialing each setting. Like when to adjust low speed vs when to adjust high speed
@artoutlawphoto
@artoutlawphoto 5 жыл бұрын
i was thinking about the syringe explanation for a long time. Good work phil. Not even rockshox or fox can explained better
@project4funner
@project4funner 5 жыл бұрын
By FAR the best suspension video I’ve ever seen!
@hansiwurst7492
@hansiwurst7492 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best sus explanations so far! Keep up the good work!
@JayBirdPhotos
@JayBirdPhotos 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and animations. Out of all the video's regarding suspension compression and dampening I finally understand it a lot better. Thanks Phil.
@MTBMOR
@MTBMOR 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and thank you. I was admiring your animation skills and thinking... "Maybe I should just retire from making videos" because they were that good. I am now a little less confused about my suspension.
@patdrumm3770
@patdrumm3770 5 жыл бұрын
Hey nice job with the animations! I think that simplified it very nicely without being condescending. Thanks Phil!
@benshapiroisgay
@benshapiroisgay 2 жыл бұрын
if you're looking into suspension mechanics for the first time, this video is a great start. Watch 30 more videos and come back here and this will make even more sense
@nickrogers6441
@nickrogers6441 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation, knowing what the adjustment actually does, will help you (me) get the shock to do what you want it to. Thanks.
@onehelewaguy
@onehelewaguy 5 жыл бұрын
This was a GREAT video on suspension- the syringes with and without the damper was great- awesome to see it in action. I still think LSC is alchemy, but I know something happens when I turn that dial! Anyway, it helped to SEE what happens, not just say it happens. Well done Phil! Keep it up!
@RUSSM8
@RUSSM8 5 жыл бұрын
i am an experienced rider, mechanic and tuner. That is the best 6 minute explanation of suspension I've ever seen. Fantastic work Phil!!! I will refer everyone to this video next time someone asks me about suspension.
@ghustavus
@ghustavus 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Finally, I understand how the adjustment works properly. Tnx!
@rushcentrale
@rushcentrale 5 жыл бұрын
This was the best video I've seen in months.
@ClintGriffin1
@ClintGriffin1 5 жыл бұрын
Phil, you continue to amaze me with your awesome ability to explain complex things in easy to understand videos!👨‍🎓📜🧠💥
@jasonmonk7645
@jasonmonk7645 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you killed it with this video. The visuals really help. I think a good follow up would be why you'd want to make changes and how does it apply to the trail.
@wadepratt9654
@wadepratt9654 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know your still making videos phill. I was gettin worried cuz i needed my skills with phill fix. Its been a couple months and i didnt know what to do lol. Love your videos man. I still have a couple stickers left, but will be ordering more after i find a place for the ones i still have. Keep up the great work man🤘
@Daniel-hh2kh
@Daniel-hh2kh 5 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to understand this for ages and this just worked perfectly thanks for all the excellent video's, especially this one
@sapinva
@sapinva 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, full coverage and yet concise.
@brettneuberger6466
@brettneuberger6466 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation! All new to me. I’m guessing 97% of bike owners, riders, and youtubers couldn’t explain what’s actually happening in those long bouncy things.
@robieosborne7369
@robieosborne7369 5 жыл бұрын
Dude. This was awesome! It's always felt like trying to figure out the machinations of forbidden magic. Now i get mechanical basics of it all. Im legit pumped rn after watching this!
@heymcfly85
@heymcfly85 5 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing! Now could you make a video going over the basics of tuning? Like when do I want more or less rebound? What are the symptoms of having too much / too little?
@brian_simmons_
@brian_simmons_ 5 жыл бұрын
That was really good Phil, really helps understand it better.
@brianfurtaw7893
@brianfurtaw7893 5 жыл бұрын
I like the anvils makes the concept really easy to understand, great job!
@peterlang5047
@peterlang5047 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the most informative and understandable video on KZbin
@eejjjj82
@eejjjj82 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously great video man. You should make this a recurring segment, Science with Phil
@mattdickey2454
@mattdickey2454 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks. I would love to see a follow up with you explaining how you like your suspension to feel and how to get it how you like it. I am trying different ways and feel as I am not knowing what to look for.
@lrvz7187
@lrvz7187 5 жыл бұрын
Those animations are key for an easy understanding for everyone, thanks for the work 👍👍🤘
@marcbrigham8569
@marcbrigham8569 5 жыл бұрын
I love the animations, it makes its a lot more clearer how it all works...keep up the good work!
@RobBradshawG
@RobBradshawG 5 жыл бұрын
This part made so much sense, Rebound adjuster is to adjust speed of rebound from compression. Compression adjuster adjusts speed of compression. Along with the illustration it was perfect
@css2538
@css2538 4 жыл бұрын
The video I've been looking for. It clearly explained the things that should be explained. Thanks man
@bacala0
@bacala0 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent content Phil! Better explanation than the one I got at engineering school years ago; seriously.
@DavidQuin
@DavidQuin 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome work Phil that is the best description of how suspension works I have ever seen, btw love your videos
@Kejsh22
@Kejsh22 2 жыл бұрын
This is really a fantastic video. Simple animations are easy to understand so it really helped me. Thanks!
@ksanasinh
@ksanasinh 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation I have come across yet
@Modern_Family
@Modern_Family 5 жыл бұрын
🤯 Thank you for the detailed video on forks! Love the videos my dude!
@jonathanyoung3684
@jonathanyoung3684 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video I learned so much. As an up in coming Bike mechanic. This Really help me understand more about what all of the parts on the suspension do. Thanks again Phil.
@zanetaylor7
@zanetaylor7 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Phil! Really really well done. It’s amazing nobody has taken the time to simplify suspension like this. This will get a ton of views over the years, and I hope you get back into making more skills and informative videos. You’re really really good at them. And I know you’ve watched a good video on the negative air chamber by... I forgot who. But you commented on it and said it was really good. What if you two teamed up on the deeper science behind air chamber tuning? I think I commented this same suggestion on that video.
@drojim184
@drojim184 5 жыл бұрын
My man I appreciate this video so much. I think this is what every new biker has wanted to see and waiting for.
@garykidson
@garykidson 5 жыл бұрын
Very clear and concise explanation. Thanks Phil
@mtnerb
@mtnerb 5 жыл бұрын
mate that is the best explanations of suspension. thank you for that Phil.
@jeffflick2573
@jeffflick2573 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Finally a man that knows the difference of the term "damper" and dampener!
@robcoastalga8279
@robcoastalga8279 2 жыл бұрын
Good work Skillip. A gentleman and a scholar.
@fredhickpt
@fredhickpt 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video, I already understood how the suspension worked but only from watching a researching for a couple hours. This video breaks it all down really nicely. Maybe another video going into a little more depth as to why you would want to adjust these settings to get the best ride
@maxkeppel3234
@maxkeppel3234 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I could hit like on this video more than once. Loved it. I tend to geek out on learning how stuff like this works, and honestly, I'm surprised I never looked all this stuff up until now (I'm an engineering student). Keep up the great work Phil. Would LOVE to see more stuff like this!
@MountainBikePete
@MountainBikePete 5 жыл бұрын
Clear and precise! I actually understood that! Made total sense. Thanks Phil!
@bbens999
@bbens999 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you! The animation was perfectly sufficient!
@tyleryoung8994
@tyleryoung8994 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids Phil, big fan. Keep up the great work!
@tdfh1
@tdfh1 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I haven't seen it laid out so cleanly before. I think I get it now. Thanks! One question about it: Can you give an example of how high and low speed compression affect bike handling? For example, as I understand, the more I decrease high speed compression, the more the suspension will soak up small bumps. How will my experience change as I adjust low speed compression? Also related, in your experience is there a "right" setting, or is it mostly feel.
@Cubenga
@Cubenga 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! The explanation was really great and easy to understand. Would love to see more of these. And/or more indepth etc
@armata6530
@armata6530 5 жыл бұрын
This was super helpful, educational, and easy to follow along. Well done
@johnbravo7542
@johnbravo7542 5 жыл бұрын
That's one of best videos explaining the functions of mtb shocks
@irenelim5134
@irenelim5134 4 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I’ve seen so far.👍🏻👍🏻
@foolishevil
@foolishevil 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. An awesome follow up would be how to tune your shocks to get the proper amount of "pop" when hitting jumps.
@volleybrad
@volleybrad 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great vid. Could you do a follow up on suspension tuning? Specifically focusing on what the effects are when the suspension is tuned IMPROPERLY. Like what happens/how does the bike feel/handle when things are set too high or low.
@jeffsaraiva7099
@jeffsaraiva7099 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Phil! I liked your animations and illustrations with syringes. It helped me a lot !!
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