Skip and Stephen A. talk Chris Paul's critique of female ref

Skip Bayless, Stephen A. Smith, and Cari Champion discuss Chris Paul’s criticism of female referee Lauren Holtkamp.

[@Kharmatos13]

She doesn't get special privelege or protection because she's female. she's a ref, and a professional ref on the professional stage, it doesn't matter if she's female if she makes poor calls she gets called out on it. that's it.

[@bighead182]

Preach

[@bishopholmes1649]

Gender aside she has no business being on that court making calls like that

[@Amy-fe6pk]

@Kenny Strawser stop putting people in a group

[@Amy-fe6pk]

@Kenny Strawser it’s the 21st century. You need to grow up.

[@JayComedy1500]

Stfu females should not be involved with men sports period

[@richardsavage9791]

Skip says Chris Paul is a hot head??? He stays praising MJ but if i recall correctly, MJ punched out his own teammates

[@yourmotherslefttesticle3892]

Richard Savage are you comparing mj to chris paul 😐

[@h3r0rl33]

Peter Parker clearly he’s comparing the situation on what Chris Paul and mj have done

[@Sidiskee]

Peter Parker your an idiot😐

[@davidpallen7976]

that was in practice and gave mj comfort to give Kerr the ball at critical moments some will call it bullying I call it character carving

[@mtg.6009]

Yourmothers Left testicle dumb are we?🤨

[@jairusmclendon3315]

This is all bullshit. Women complain about equal rights but when their treated equally they get all butt-hurt and start crying sexist. People make comments all the damn time about men. But say something about women and its on the news. If she can't deal with a player asking why then she in fact doesn't belong in the nba.

[@OutlawStarkiller]

Who cares that she's a girl? Terrible calls either way

[@antagonist7924]

OutlawStarkiller because the NBA has all male players for a reason

[@nobodycares7690]

Exactly those are terrible calls

[@ayylokii9428]

@@nobodycares7690 I agree

[@LoggyWD]

You cannot criticize female if they are bad. It hurts girls' feelings.

[@user-fp9xc8hf4d]

E'raan Lue THEN DON’T EVEN TRY TO DO IT

[@LSL_II]

Why they on Chris Paul when it's was definitely the terrible calls that she was calling

[@apriar94]

"If she was a man, he wouldn't say 'this isn't for her'. She really didn't think that thought through lol

[@curtismynameheard4628]

Alex Priar I disagree with u that

[@VoiceOfValidity]

@deus krid superstar she insinuated it as a sexist comment, when it wasn't. He just said being a referee might not be for her, maybe subway is a better workplace for her.

[@ritzcrackers2324]

And plus I don’t think a male ref has ever called 5 technicals with most to all of them being bad calls

[@fakedan6568]

@@ritzcrackers2324 *coughs in Joey Crawford*

[@Tstewa4869]

@@fakedan6568 Hold this dub

[@DranFresh]

What other word could he have said instead of her lol?

[@ZeroFreeze]

exactly

[@malfunction2390]

Dran Fresh it. Lol.

[@grant6503]

Dion Lyona hagahahah 😂

[@anakovacevic6755]

and he should have lol

[@reece758]

‘It’

[@domaineedwards3393]

This is why Marshawn Lynch stay quiet.

[@dan16000]

Good for him. You know what they say: "If you'd have kept your mouth shut we might have thought you were clever."

[@dubbs8294]

after seeing this I see why cari champion didn't last on first take.

[@mr.russell5395]

Yeah, instead they promoted her to ESPN1 in the morning lol but she wasn't a really good moderator on First Take

[@romain8390]

Lasted like 2 years, then was promoted to SportsCenter bro. Two years is a good amount of time. Iif you make that comment talking about why she didn't last on SC, then I'd agree, but this is just factually incorrect. Because 2 years gives them a lot of time to term her contract...

[@scottbennici4689]

She went to a better job... Molly qerim, the moderator they have now is even worse.

[@ohmyassoff1087]

yeah i mean how dare CP3 use a pronoun

[@caesarves]

Pronoun? What, such as "You People"? LOL

[@merc4644]

Pretty big leap from "she doesn't" to "women don't".

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

i can tell skip bayless has never played sports in life before

[@provenknowledge]

Ashane McPherson 😂 Lol

[@restinpeacekobe987]

He has

[@ladsd679]

Rest in Peace Kobe what is hs ? He averaged 1.4 Pts

[@restinpeacekobe987]

@@ladsd679 just saying he did play

[@kellykardashian2940]

He averaged 2.4pts

[@avinashgossai]

Skip Bayless has no idea what he's taking about. Chris Paul is one of the most respectful basketball players in the NBA and in my opinion would never gender bias. I believe he was just mad at the call and was a little heated afterwards to where he said somethings he shouldn't have. The league fined him for it that's that lets move on people.

[@wolfepierre1712]

Stephen A. Smith schooled Skip Bayless and you can tell Skip saw that.

[@duendevidz3966]

skip out of line rofl, ANGER ISSUES... god his so fucking hard to listen to, he just blows off everything smith said aswell as if he was wrong. God i fucking hate this guy.

[@provenknowledge]

Wolfe Pierre Skip couldn’t carry Steven A’s jock in a suitcase 🧳

[@SoulBurningEyes]

4:33 miss qouted question 5:22 the agenda in lieu of said miss qouted segway 6:46 segway with reference seen as Divinty 7:37 Demonizing said miss qouted productee 8:45 Reference of Loss to speculate facial features as Facts 10:52 Bearing False Witness 11:32 Speculation with rebutal by correctly using proper pro noun 13:30 Reputation speculation 15:45 Speculated Answer 16:41 Segway into Demonizing 18:30 Racial Indifference 19:47 Winning is Everything

[@mukundyadav6913]

Segue*

[@Laid2Sleep]

Thank you A TON for this. I wish I could see more.

[@jramirez65451]

I'm a fan of both Skip and Stephen A. But come on Skip, really? He deserved a tech?She made a bad call and everyone knows it. He didn't say anything disrespectful, the nba even said she was "justified " yet did not clarify what she claims was said to her. For the most part the story always comes out as far aw what occurred or what was said. Now she may be the first female in the nba and they want to protect her but don't let her ego make her the next Joey Crawford. We just got rid of him and she doesn't need to be quick to make the attention on her. Players always question refs! Doesn't matter male or female. Refs miss and make bad calls regardless

[@ernestgutierrez4189]

Stephen A, Smith always speaks the truth! Great example of journalism. Always understands the other side of opinion, but when he speaks his point of view he is always balanced.

[@SanderKorteweg666]

The problem with Lauren Holtkamp in this game is that she was making the game about her. She wanted to get into the spotlights where I have a very big problem with. I understand she's a rookie, but these are some serious problems.

[@dan16000]

You should quit this bad habit of talking out of your ass.

[@SanderKorteweg666]

The truth is hard to accept for some of us. But honestly, what do you think?

[@dan16000]

Sander Korteweg I think the title should say _Girl makes CP0 cry_.

[@Karlbertil1337]

12:17 is the best thing stephen a has ever said

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

chris paul is not sexist. he told the truth. Lauren Holtkamp is a horrible ref. she doesnt have the personality that it takes to ref an Nba game

[@phantasyryder]

He's not, I am.

[@zockey99]

I don't give a damn what her record is, look at the video where she gave random technical's for no damn reason and she is a rookie ref(in NBA) making bad calls that's why he said it might not be for her

[@Dwyanerose]

Sexist

[@ruzh9669]

@@Dwyanerose how was any of that sexist

[@tajgibson8776]

@@Dwyanerose Wrong! Sexist would have been him telling her to take her ass back into the kitchen.

[@RetroR0bbie]

Skip and Cari. This show doesn't miss you.

[@justsaying4488]

max is absolutely the worst

[@saviorsimon5140]

RetroR0bbie max doesn’t know basketball

[@TheK1t3]

max is terribad

[@mendelfsisma5110]

For the record max is trash.

[@Schwedeballz]

He is the worst

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

you can tell when skip is reading off a script

[@DantieuS]

The Bigger problem with this scenario is the fact that if Paul were to receive a fine for an Opinion, of which is clearly NOT sexist and is NOT disrespecting her as a woman and if you are of that opinion, i don't think you understand the definition of the word misogyny. Paul's "Controversial" comment "This isn't for her." he ABSOLUTELY would have said the same thing if the official was a Male... How anyone tries to use this as an argument for Paul being sexist has an agenda. Male or Female... it DOESN'T matter. If you aren't a Professional Referee who knows the game, has played the game and understands all or at-least the vast majority of its aspects, you should NOT be a referee at ANY level. How did Lauren, a first year NBA referee think that T-ing up Paul for asking a question was a vaild reason for such a call? She was a ref in the fucking D-League for christ sake, she should have known better!

[@DjNic11]

This isn't about Chris Paul disrespecting a ref because she's a woman it's about Chris Paul saying something not remotely positive about the league having a ref who would make such terrible calls.

[@PoliticallyAffiliated]

I never agree with Stephen A lol but he was bang on, all day in this vid

[@skimasker3049]

They show 1 clip from more than 10 years earlier and show that as proof of an anger management problem.

[@ryanramlogan6512]

Pretty sure he just meant that she catches too many damn feelings, other refs go through a lot worse and don't give out stupid T's. What Chris Paul said did not warrant a tech.

[@malinaoliphant4726]

Chris Paul gave an opinion about how she just an awful ref and said that this might not be the job for her and everyone called him sexiest after. People need to grow No matter if was man or woman he would have said same thing.

[@gallyturndrop5320]

This is an old video but it astonishes me how they can strip all the context away from that quote. "This might not be for her" is not close to giving someone the proper gloves to talk about that situation.

[@darrick1426]

Randy Moss, Marshawn Lynch, and Barry Bonds...this is why they hated talking to the media...you can't say what you want to say, and when you do say something , it's blown way out of proportion. In Chris Paul's case, this is not a matter of gender biased, it's his personal opinion about a rookie Ref. Yes, he would have said the same about a rookie ref thats a male. No, Chris Paul is no angel, but I don't like the fact that Cari Champion and Skip Bayless tries to make Chris look like a bad guy here. This really sucks; you make millions of dollars, but you can't have an opinion. To all you up and coming athletes, remember, once you make it pro, there isn't anymore freedom of speech. Now, this is my opinion.

[@danecranberry6025]

I'll never forget when some hack sportscaster at WPXI in Pittsburgh played up a 15-second clip of Barry shouting at an umpire. The said, "Barry Bonds goes crazy!" Barry hadn't played for the MLB Pirates for a year, and many MLB umpires do mediocre jobs. It's a sorry thing that the hack got away with that.

[@gregorycastillo4799]

This would not be national news, we would only be aware of it when the league fined Paul. This all has to due with the referee being female, she did a bad job handling the situations. And Paul did a bad thing about complaining after the game. Just fine him and lets move on.

[@oliver5287]

15:36 proves women don’t listen 😑🤦🏾‍♂️

[@mendelfsisma5110]

Hehe

[@shayhicks7682]

A bad ref is a bad ref. As a former player and as a coach i know that they come in all shapes and sizes and with both genders. There have been games where the female was more dependable than the male official, and vice versa. She got herself into an arena that is known for extreme criticism. When you go on a tyrannical technical foul tirade like joey crawford this is going to happen. She is a NBA official and was criticized as so. It is not sexist the criticize her officiating, in fact i would argue that it is sexist to NOT criticize her officiating. If she wants to be treated like male official then she needs to be criticized like one as well. I was critical of the official that threw out technicals against the T-Wolves when Kevin Love played for them, and Joey Crawford. If you make bad calls expect to be boo'd its part of the game and the profession.

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

i never seen a referee do that before

[@maxpuppy96]

You just can't ring them up for that, I officiated for 20 years you talk to players when he said how comes no uh uh I would have said I set the pace not you, not ring him up NBA gets what they deserve. That's an example of referee;s wrecking the game.

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

he cant relate to any player in any moment. if you cant do that you shouldnt be able to speak on matters like so. skip was the kid growing up that never got picked by any team at recess and never in life

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

she went out there and tried to police the game with no remorse for the players

[@shayhicks7682]

I think it is sexist if we dont criticize her. If we want it to be equal then she is just as open to criticism for terrible officiating as the next guy. If I’m comfortable ripping Joey Crawford but not her then I believe that is way more sexist than the other way around.

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

she basically tried to make a name for her self giving away techs to everyone

[@sjames1012]

The question no one asks is if CP3 would have said, "Why uh uh?" to a more experienced, male referee.

[@chinocary3158]

Because no othere male ref said "uh uh" to him it was her who said it so he asked her why "uh uh"

[@sjames1012]

Cameron Cary but what if it was a guy. Would he have responded the same way

[@anthonyfoster1108]

+Steve James of course wtf, its not like he would've been scared god people make basketball a pussy sport

[@dan16000]

Nope. Look, CP0 is a big cry baby and we all know that by now, the only reason this happened is because he thought he could get away with it because she's a women, by intimidating her to shut her up, but he was wrong and still got the technical. The whiny shrimp doesn't have enough balls to pick on a grown ass man though.

[@dan16000]

Anthony Foster "who the fuck gets fined for saying some shit" Do you expect like a dignified reply after that or...?

[@Defender78]

I think they were trying to hit Lauren when that ball went flying into the stands

[@agt462]

OMG.......just realized Hope Solo and Lauren Holtkamp are the same person.

[@reece758]

I guess ‘her’ is not a pronoun for a woman. What are we to call women when speaking about them to another person.

[@MrQuestiel]

"It" my friend. They want "it" 'cause they are definitely not "him"

[@provenknowledge]

Awful calls. She’s setting a bad example for aspiring female officials, in any sport.

[@kennethstone4590]

I’m glad Steven a said from his heart, cause on the hood. Skip is basically trying asassjnate Chris Paul’s character, basically saying, he did mean Saying “ her “ in a bad way due to Chris Paul’s past.

[@malinaoliphant4726]

The woman also talking about this topic also said that she’s very qualified. So are many other refs but a lot of them a crap, most of them probably are equally just as qualified.

[@EddieCCanegetitin]

What the hell is skip talking about ?? The ref clearly had the ball before in was inbounded

[@ohmyassoff1087]

CP3 is really out of line. Cant believe this man actually used a pronoun

[@adukefyalew220]

😂😂😂😂

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

skip bayless just makes stuff up and stephen a always calls him on it

[@sportplaya6]

The way she was issuing the fouls was showing she was getting upset, or that she might have been, that’s why he said that, but it was just an opinion and he would’ve said the same thing about a man

[@dontbemitch]

Skip ad hominem all day. Kari was right, though, he would've said "It might not be for *him*". XP

[@TinSpy]

They should hire referee that are no bias and knows the rules

[@suckafreetom]

Why does skip keep bringing up Chris Paul anger issues on the court. It’s basketball skip niggas are competitive and show emotions when playing a sport and especially when losing.

[@swingsip9312]

what is skip talking about

[@emmanuelenyinwa1443]

The black dude defended the black dude; the white dude defended the white dude. Skip used the platform to roil up some pent up Chris Paul hate, but ultimately Stephen A correctly pointed out that this is not a trial of Chris Paul the player, but whether he is sexist.

[@qqwwee246]

man and woman are not equal bc they are not the same. difference makes inequality. why so hard to accept it

[@MaryMary-iw7wh]

They may not be the "same" but they are equal and should be treated and critcized as such.If she were a man then he would have said maybe this isnt for "him" ppl are too fking sensitive and looking for a damn fight all the time.

[@bryanmock4828]

Why does SAS have to scream??🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@vincentcrowder575]

And you think she would rather be called it then she lol.

[@fetumapu9576]

But would this happen if the gender were to be reversed?

[@JohnSmithRocx]

Off the rails! Skip was taking a cheap shot! Chris Paul has done more for the NBA then he could ever fathom! If it was man, he would have said the same thing! She is a ROOKIE referee, who was throwing t's like it was going out of style, and Chris definitely didn't deserve his! If you call 4 t's in one quarter as a ref for virtually no reason, then maybe being a ref in the NBA isn't for you!

[@MrQuestiel]

Not just that he was talking real shit. He probably never played sports in his life. In competition, people do shit. You can't mention shit on the court about an interview outside the court. By his stupid logic, KG who is a soft spoken person in real life (ignore the hand gestures) should be in prison

[@owenm2054]

7:21 Broken A Smith

[@doglogisticsllc4447]

Yes he had ball first but they gave to ref then she gave to Jordan. It was far she was trying to just call everything

[@StuddedsBurner]

This is why I'm sort of glad skip is off first take. Yeah he was entertaining and no he wasn't an idiot, but he makes a lot of irrelevant points taking shots at players. In no way was Chris Paul's past relevant to his words about the unfair officiating

[@MichaelRobinson-lt6ee]

Players must stand up for limited speech to decide what is over board it doesn't make any difference weather she was male or female making calls based on emotion is questionable for both males or female

[@ashanemcpherson1238]

they just agreed with stephen a because all he said was her... take that in . please. all he said was her. didnt say anthing mean or rude about her. just said this might not be for her

[@thetruemarksmen9124]

He wasn’t being sexist whatsoever people be stupid. He’s literally correct in every way.

[@mraims2plez]

Hey man, anybody who hits another man in the nuts ain't allowed to say sh!t.

[@Miami3o5King]

Skip don't guess SMH

[@readmyshit9839]

Ole girl came out the blocks "this might not be for her" she already got a attitude Smfh women so sensitive, it's ruining allot of shit. Sports is one

[@adraper30]

This isn't for women, there it is, it's been said

[@emmanuelprieto7941]

i think an issue is an issue when stupid media make it. wtf is wrong with nba and stupid media making a big deal out of some comment. well everyone has an opinion

[@yogo3457]

Skip. Chris Paul anger issues but be doesn’t think mj have anger issues 🤣

[@alexkyriacou1353]

He would of said it 1000000%

[@alexkyriacou1353]

and everyone sticks up for the female, except smith

[@lalaev2077]

Fine for fawking what??? He said it may not be for her!!! It may not!! They take everything and fawk it up! They want players to shut up and dribble hell fawking no!!! Say what u have to and she can t him up and thats that. She shouldn't have t'd him for that bull but that's what happend!

[@aaronsterling8080]

What do you mean uh-uh?

[@DarrionMarzVevo]

Skip bayless contradicted himself either it was a question or a comment

[@OBSVFULC]

Who the hell is Cari Champion?

[@leonarmaglaya1305]

The ref is fine tho 😂

[@Alex-vf9ur]

Skip disappointed me with this one

[@mickystar124]

Skip don’t even believe in his own take 😂 just want to disagree to disagree. If it was a male ref no one would care . I feel we only have female refs just to keep the feminist happy

[@tamikawilliams8997]

For some reason I thought the ref and joey Crawford were related she is a horrible ref

[@thefaith2332]

Even if it was the fact she is a woman, your in a mens league do you expect a man to sit there and let you do that to him?

[@deuce7258]

Can we stop bringing up the past and live in the moment dang people change.

[@justinterry7853]

Say that about Karl Malone lol

[@drewleague4855]

They need to get skip off TV

[@crockerakahops90sjumpmantexas]

Chris paul has a point

[@IhateAlot718]

Jesus I hate anyone who uses the what if scenario just to bring up argumentative points that at the end of the day is just conjecture on their behalf. We don't know and you can only work with what you have in front of you, too many times arguments go off tangents into a whole bunch of social or non factored issues because of what if this person was black,white,male,woman.

[@dudetgirls]

So I guess the NHL the MLB mens soccer and the NFL should now hire female referees?

[@noahdistasio8685]

shit call, Stephen A. bent skip over in this and skip obviously doesn't know you play the game with emotion and every player in the league lets their emotions get the best of them once in a while

[@brianjohnson8666]

Don't guess....

[@kingderon44]

wtf is skip talking about lol its so off topic

[@fweeduff]

must be joe crawford's daughter

[@xray50]

wow ridiculous. steven has a point. the topic is only on cas he used her. not cas he said the job may not be that person. lol like ur telling me all the male referees dat would have made a call dat to be a technical cas he ask a question. i seen worse things happen between player v player fighting and cussing out each other. lol and technical foul on asking a question. common sense something not right

[@blackmag8120]

They are always trying to create a narrative....women are more sensitive to things that men arent....If you are gonna be sensitive you cannot ref in any sport...and that goes for men 2....do she still ref cause i havent seen her?

[@mr.sandeepwatkinsiv2282]

Skip n the bish stretching to take that Afrikan down.

[@Schwedeballz]

Skeeeup simping hardcore.

[@Ty-mo7fn]

I don’t even get how this is sexist just because he said that doesn’t mean he is attacking her for her sex but for her actions Jesus

[@slatt0016]

He would of said this isn’t for him ole girl reaching for bs

[@Duracell2]

This was a great cringe compilation. I'll leave a link to the original video below. Tell me if you made it to the end or where you failed down below in the comments, and we'll see you next time... lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpCToneiaKatf5I

[@ralphmiles99]

Skip is rambling not making any sense

[@trenapier206]

This was over blown...