Skull Face, the Székelys, & Stalinism [ANALYSIS]

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[@darthrevan3342]

I am communist msyelf... But You shoudl read the fucking manifest. Bourgeois nationalism is an hypocrysie, as the bourgeois capitalist tend to globalise, eraze border and nation to teh great displeasure of reactionnaries. In a sens bourgeois nationalism is a hox, as it trick prol in fighting for the interest of a minority in prétexte of serving the nation. Marx said this in the 1800's. Now it is even mroe true than ever before. He also said. That Communist such as himsef where accused of trying to bring down nation by badmouth but this was false, Because the dictatorship of the proletariate He say prols are nationaless because of bourgeois Nationalism, where in teh end they are mroe ocmmodities and lifestock for teh battfield, rtaher than proper citiezen. But with teh dictatroship of teh proletariate they would be able to be build their own nation. This why we are inetrnationalist and not globalist. Stalin neitehr was an inetrnationalist nor a globalist he was in between.

[@darthrevan3342]

18:00 No it ain't taht.. Class counciouness is more about yoru usbcouncious rather that th open counciousness...... And prol class counciouness is way elss devlopped than the bourgeois one. Because bourgeois are much mroe selfware than prols....... And prols are sibject to alienation teh culturla hegemony of the bourgeoisie......... But There was a citizen movement, like teh dude wanted direct democracy, so he gatehr people to write down a new constitution elarn them how to do it..... And he noticed : People tend to wnat teh same fucking things.... Prols want the same fuckinsg things..... That is what class counciousness is about. And it is great when you realize you and yoru enibourgh have mroe in common than you might think...

[@darthrevan3342]

20:00 This true..... But I am french we kinda crushed such population with teh rfench revolution. After all we remained an agrarian country for a long time but we had instrie sto fuel, and cannon to forges. We had a nation some greater and far richer than the locla community that was allowed to exist as long as it pay it'sith..... But I guess the east is always focking to complicated.

[@darthrevan3342]

21:50 The Irony is that Stalin (taht orwell loathed) tried to implement a meritocracy (1947 prgrmam) and end those inequalities and teh apparatchiks... But it failed due to teh appratchiks being too powerfull.

[@darthrevan3342]

22::00 You do realize that tis "stalinism" did come from Stalin entourage rather than Stalin himself. In short apparatchiks.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

8:38 It's interesting to notice a small connection here. Biopunk and Cyberpunk are seen as two opposite ends of the same spectrum. Since he is kept alive and augmented by parasites, he's a Biopunk Cowboy. "Cowboys and ninjas" was a late-2000s "extreme opposites fight" meme, alongside pirates. He is the exact opposite of a Cyborg Ninja on the same spectrum as a cyborg ninja.

[@brandbusters183]

It is very interesting to see what Depth can be found in just one Character, all your work would make a great Book Someday, understanding Kojima & Metal Gear.

[@Hack_The_Planet_]

No joke, they make college courses out of more ridiculous things than metal gear.

[@angelinaburns928]

Mannn, You do not disappoint at all. You're so detailed and thorough. I love Your videos. I watch them almost every day. You make it feel as if the series never died.🥺 Sad the Fans are really; honestly, keeping MGS alive, we became the blood.. I (personally) don't fault Kojima. Konami did him dirty..

[@thelegendofner0]

From here on out - we're Big Boss!

[@OctoberOmicron]

It's become, you could say, a phantom pain.

[@caseylewis8614]

As much as I hate how dirty Konami did him dirty I also believe they liberated him by doing what they did. As much as I love metal gear, Kojima has been trying to get away from the series to tell his other stories and visions sense MGS3. I would be happy with more metal gear but I am equally excited to see what his other projects have to tell.

[@morgansheepman2403]

I love how Skull Face is so campy yet so grounded.

[@BJ-zd2or]

With the character, many mainstream didnt see what he was actually saying, it got hints but not far. Mostly said he was a boring character. But if you really hear what he says. Its actually talking about national identity, language, barriers of concepts and how we live. I mean why is there, "the other". he is deep and its effected so much of him aswell being burnt, and so obsessed with what he sees becouse outsiders dragged him left and right (and also zero that found him, not in a bad way but, that as zero speaks english and is privileged never to lose his own tongue. And the snake eater that casted him aside which skull face hated being used as just tail for snake too succeed.) Skull face sees the world in borders, how it is and how it should be by different barriers, and they are all right in their ways aswell pointing the wrongs of the other, it's just how it is. As growing up he also sees his own village alike. Their own little world as making bombs in factory's. I think before knowing all this as a child, was something he found dear and warmth that was taken from him. A peice of him. It's the good parts he remembers but it's also in world view when its revealed, he sees it all a mess while people try to save their own worlds to continue, even if it means distorting others in their wake and Visa, I think that's like any civilisation that has come and gone.

[@bencarlson4300]

That kind of describes the entire Metal Gear series

[@ZeroDimSumGame]

“WHOOoOooooo

[@TheInfiniteAmo]

Worth pointing out here, the "Man Without a Face" was the western moniker for Markus Wolf, the head of East Germany's counterintelligence bureau during the Cold War, owing to the fact that for decades the CIA et al didn't have a conclusive photo compromising his identity. He actually released a book detailing his time as the head of East German counterintel under that same title, which is a pretty interesting read (if not obviously biased).

[@zombioncrack]

Thanks for making this. I never quite understood who skullface was and his motivations. This game has a great story, but i didn't really get it while i played because I'd need to write down timelines and thought webs to put it together.

[@TheInfiniteNine]

Such is understanding the intricacies of the metal gear lore lol

[@christianmegachad2898]

@@TheInfiniteNine intricacies * i dont usually correct spelling mistakes but this gave me an aneurysm

[@TheInfiniteNine]

@@christianmegachad2898 lmao thanks man I must have typed that one too fast or was half asleep or something 😂

[@somethingtorelate]

I'd like to add a small detail to Skull Face. Székely people speak hungarian, and they are considered hungarian. Just like Csángó or Jász people. Altho all of them call themselves first and foremost Székely, Csángó or Jász, they all speak the same langauge (hungarian/magyar) they just have different culture (but its mostly the same).

[@PlushPlanet]

I was waiting for more MGSV from Futurasound. Wish was granted!

[@solidus0079]

Great video as always. But your Venom avatar always cracks me up for some reason.

[@Tweed.Echidna]

28:20 "U.S. FOX or XOF of S.U." - That's genius - great spot!

[@sebastiansanhueza9601]

Hey man! Many thanks for this video! In spite of standard fan rejection, Skull Face is by far my favorite MGS "villain", among other reasons, because his philosophical outlook actually raises hardcore questions about the cultural impact of the Anglo-American world in other societies via language. As someone whose mother tongue is not English, I was floored by his no doubt twisted but actually deep rationale. Again, the underpinning critique against English-speaking culture is so brutal, I'm surprised it didn't provoke a more negative reaction from fans or related media venues.

[@wikipediaintellectual7088]

I mean he raped and tortured people and recorded it. If skull face isn't a villain I don't know who is.

[@uastyrdzhii]

He didn't because Skull Face is a shit villain and Kojimbo fumbled

[@sebastiansanhueza9601]

@@uastyrdzhii your mom fumbled.

[@EugenePoole94]

​@sebastiansanhueza9601 it's not that Skullface is a bad villain. It's a matter of Kojima being a bad writer. His ideas are indeed worthy of discourse but his writing is bad.

[@sebastiansanhueza9601]

@@EugenePoole94 spot on.

[@ufcoque8697]

Used to hate the character with passion, but now he's one of my all time favorites. So much potential

[@femto5276]

I've been binge watching these videos for the past few days thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@andygarcia4960]

was hoping you'd make more content on skullface, so stoked you did! great work like always fsp

[@2yoyoyo1Unplugged]

I wish more of the community would watch these and open their mind to how much is actually in this game. So many have bought the “it’s 90% filler” narrative. What a shame.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

That's really not true,there might be lot of lore to research but in terms of content it is very lacking,Africa missions are just average aside from two boss encounters. Side ops are worse they have ever being and free foam doesn't use the revenge system fully meaning stuff like enemy tank,chopper,roit suits and much more exclusive to missions for some stuoid reason. If it wasn't for fobs,there be nothing challenging for console players to do.

[@eandjproductions2]

The lack of set pieces in the game really kill it.

[@Garcia1995]

@@eandjproductions2 Setpieces don't offer much freedom when it comes to gameplay. Is why I like Big Boss games more than Solid Snake's.

[@eandjproductions2]

@@Garcia1995 Doesn't matter. There is enough missions that have freedom. The game needed more memorable gameplay moments. The rest of the series is set piece to set piece with a heavy emphasis on its presentation. I don't mind that MGSV is 90% gameplay but it needed some missions that had more polished content. Like Pitch Dark has those in mission cutscenes or the Devil's House, Blood Runs Deep, etc. Those had curated content. A lot of the missions have little story significance and "feel" like filler. If you deeply look at the story you can see where that story is in every mission but none of it is in your face like it should be.

[@lithuaniaball]

@@eandjproductions2 i don't know about set pieces the same way half life or call of duty has them, but compare the base from ground zeroes to any of the locations in the main game and anyone would admit you're right. there's a level of care and polish like the level is trying to hold your hand and say "hey, look at this cool stuff", instead of being a boring empty field to crawl through

[@whitecraneexperience2413]

Even if Skull Face lost everything and became a villian in both Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain. But still I understand his felling when he was also forced to speak certain language when he was young. To learn language like english or french or other language by your free will is one and good thing but learning language by force is the bad thing. Skull Face didn't had a war against Big Boss and Zero (aka. Cypher/The Patriots), he had a war against every language from entier world, all except his mother tounge. Been burned his skin when he was young, he want revenge against Zero, Cypher, Big Boss and every language except hungarian, then finaly dies because of revenge. When someone want revenge against the other, then revenge returns back to the person who wanted. Life is like a boomerang. You maked a great video today. Great work Lee.. um I mean Boss.

[@BJ-zd2or]

It seems like a tradagy though, when you see the whole thing. Cool talking had hatred for him becouse of what he did, quite understandable. But it leaves a mark that in skull faces mind. No one could repair him. His mind was soaked into it. He was lost too it all. Even other people wanted him dead afterwards. It made Kaz and maybe venom ugly in it's way. Its basically going "get them" as they run after them. Even today or even what I've seen on the news has sims form of revenge mentality there. If to give an example of 2016 and mostly 2020. Is that is potent revenge or retaliation is. Things look like justice from the surface or normalised level if daily life, yeah. But when its polical like in 2020. Something ugly so up from the surface as its repeated. And you dont see it as a justice point of view based on legal representation. Retribution rather then redemption as everyone is territorial and disticting them is only ones own empathy or despise of the one you see or not. Revenge is so unhinged.

[@whitecraneexperience2413]

@@BJ-zd2or I understand what you say. But... in my perspective and in my life, I learned that neither justice nor revenge can bring peace and stability in world. If you make something good, then choose to do nothing bad and help people peacefully and rationally. Once you choose the good thing, your are human ("Evil when triumph, is good for man to do nothing" Edmund Burke.). But if you make bad things, then you choose justice, once you choose justice, you choose revenge and once you choose revenge you no more human, you became a coldblooded demon. For me, Justice and Revenge are two sides of a single coin they are the same thing and they doesn't exist to me. It means nothing to me. For example, everyone saying that Justice is good and everyone must act to punish the guilty person with death. But in reality you can't do this by yourself. If you do the bad path, then sooner or later you have to face the consequences. Just like Big Boss said to Coldman in PW: "People hesitate. Lose their nerve." (And it wasn't refering to the gouverment who lose their control and launching nukes to other countries, he was also refering to the human thoughts, like civilians for example). If you think positive, then your full of control, if you think negative then your out of control and became a beast and also your going to destroy your own reputation. Or in War, everyone are saying that soldiers who are going to the battlefield are legends, heroes that brings happiness and justice. In reality main soldiers and enemy soldiers are only victims each other and they come from war only but pain, suffering and trauma. Just like Solid Snake said: "They are no heroes in war".-MGS1, "A legend is nothing but a fiction".-MGS2. And what Snake and Otacon are fighting for the future when they create an NGO Anti Metal Gear organisation is not Justice and Revenge. Is like Otacon said to Emma: "For Peace". Look this is my opinion, but if I said something wrong or bad then ok I keep this opinion just for me and I delete this opinion or comment. Ok? And this opinion it was about the phantom pains protagonists (Venom) and antagonists (Skull Face) path. What path they took.

[@MrWsbird]

“Skull face must be making his FINAL PLAY”

[@johndcoffee632]

I appreciate these amazing videos on a Monday. Thanks Boss

[@ARIXANDRE]

Kojima should watch these amazing essays...

[@YoungMachette]

hahaha he wrote the content he knows

[@brandbusters183]

History, Philosophy, Deep Dive & Video Game Analyses all at once. Kudos to you, Boss.

[@theparadox420]

Greatest antagonist in VG history, love him! 💀

[@Red_Lanterns_Rage]

the iceberg as they say of the metal gear franchise is deceptively deep, what most only see 10 feet below the water line is a iceberg that goes 100 miles deep from the water line, what's seen on the surface is also pretty big in real terms what we see is many games that sold very well as a collective whole under the surface is so much parable to real history woven in that one can unravel it 100 ways and still find deep meaning, it's a good thing this channel exists...

[@DeyRapingEveryone]

Interpunction.

[@cillain1711]

Boss you have given us too much content, thank you for that

[@noescapefromreality1749]

Havent been so interested in something like this than Pequod arriving shortly at LZ

[@MrMissingnin44]

JORIN......IM BURNING UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP... Good Job boss.

[@surrealistidealist]

Another incredible analysis! ❤ Man, if Jorin Lee ever does a Psycho Mantis piece, it'd be absolutely mind-blowing!

[@AJZulu]

Good quote at the beginning there.

[@fortunatesoul12]

I thank for all your videos, not only for making somewhat inteligible some of the MGS lore, but also for coming up´with and interpretation of your own of it's themes and implications. Something I wished we saw more was Skull Face speaking different languages, to hammer more the idea of him as a fluid polyglot, who at the same time despites not knowing his mother tongue

[@domierrodriguez2005]

another great video boss o7

[@jbark678]

8:38 Holy crap, parasite therapy is a real thing (overexaggerated in Kojima fashion, of course).

[@aadipie]

Thank you boss! o7

[@miguelcarunchod.1493]

Your video made me realise something; According to Kojima the lust for revenge of a WWII child victim that aims to make everyone on earth share the same life experience that he went through, using genocide tools of nukes and bioweapons, and is only alive because he has parasites running through his body which deprive him of sensorial touch, caused by the horrors of war, is lesser than the rage of an egocentric pre-teen boy with life-acquired false thoughts of thinking he is a number two even if he has superior innate capabilities than an adult.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

Well yeah, Skull Face isn't puberty-fueled.

[@miguelcarunchod.1493]

@@PosthumanHeresy He likely even lost those organs in the fire...

[@metallicarchaea1820]

Loved the video, great work. Unless I misunderstood you however, SkullFace didn't have any parasite related killing abilities or anything. Just that he was an expert field agent/assassin and may have even killed Stalin himself. Also the unusable vehicles and helicopters occasionally found like in the Hellbound mission, aren't meant to be decoys or anything meant to fool observers. They were just made inoperable since they are on base and not ready to be active or deployed. The wheels on the vehicles are clearly booted. The helicopter blades are retracted so they are safe and out of the way.

[@jasonmalice]

Volgin must have had parasite therapy too. The dude lived to be in his mid 70s, and thats on the younger guess of his age. Plus his scars on his face, arent quite typical scar presentation. Third, The dude was able to live past a lightning strike----on a metal tank, no less.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

Ehh, I think Volgin is just one of the MGS mutants with superpowers. Like Mantis and The Sorrow. Electrokinesis is considered a cousin to psychokinesis. And electricity is plasma, just like fire. He's got _plasmakinesis_ in particular.

[@ezrawyvern6795]

He was taken from the battlefield, and made neither truly alive nor truly dead. An undying shadow in a world of light.

[@mohio2020]

Thank you for doing these

[@lawlmang278]

Great content, keep it coming!

[@Rynhelms]

Keep em coming

[@Sam-bd3qr]

Open your eyes.... Take back our past From Fox two phantoms were born Archaea Vocal Cord Parasites Then and now Bioweapons Now do you remember?

[@TheJuancho]

FIRST! I love these essays!

[@happyjay9168]

Part 3 please

[@earlycuyler2295]

"skull face" is just one of many characters that are hallucinations.

[@OuterHeaven210]

Heack yeah! Another solid video! You're the fucking best man!

[@JohnDuraSSB]

nice!

[@Model_118]

When was Miller given the parasites ?

[@AlkaponX57]

you've confused class consciousness with class reductionism. Class consciousness is just realizing your place within class struggle, it makes no claim that most people are aware of this or operate along class interest. The myopic inability to see an issue beyond an overly simplified charactercher of class politics you described is unfortunately a real thing, but its known as class reductionism.

[@FuturasoundProductions]

a fair point, and thanks for pointing it out!

[@KojiMadarA333]

​@Nat3_H1gg3rswhat is IBS?

[@chrisbutler1668]

I understand why Ocelot is so out-of-character and reserved in this game only...otherwise, Skull Face would disappear against the line of MGS villains as one of the least interesting one in the series, and he wouldn't be so clearly juxtaposed against the snarling, neutered canines of Kaz as the sole madman on our team of Diamond Dogs. So Ocelot, based on the tactics of simple storytelling is the narrator to Venom's story, a vessel to fill in the blanks of Big Boss's enemies and friends to Venom's consciousness.

[@PosthumanHeresy]

There is also a common trend in aging: wild youth, calm middle ages, wild old age. Ocelot is too old to be childish but not old enough to be free to do whatever the hell he wants.

[@a1-user]

Thank you for your work metal gear bro 🙏

[@omarionandrews766]

Yo when you another what even happens in mgs please make another I need to know more of this story

[@Fredericpub]

You might really like "Really existing nationalisms" by Erica Benner if you want a good analytic work

[@gabrielgranja4050]

awesome video! are you familiar with Hegel's work? I think it would make a great mention

[@Lordlaneus]

My pet theory is this Skull Face is both the Fury, and then later Mimic Octopus..

[@DRGGY]

Great vids #MgsV #Futurasound

[@knightshousegames]

It is really interesting to think about the absurdity of the phrase "Jewish Communism" The common stereotype against Jewish people is that they are greedy, due to the people's historical ties to banking going back to the time of the Romans. This was part of Nazi propaganda, this idea that the Jews were hoarding the wealth of the German people. So that later in the war they would then link them to communism, an economic philosophy that goes so directly in the face of that stereotype, goes to show how desperate, and honestly how brazen they were, that they believed that the people were so indoctrinated that they thought they could actually pitch this idea and it would actually work.

[@guilhermesantos8728]

No matter the times and ideologies, the same arguments somehow end up being reused for the circunstances

[@A-B101]

It might be because of Marx himself and also of multiple jewish eastern europeans that were key figures amongst the bolcheviks

[@tejdandekar]

Have you read Umberto Eco's essay on fascism? It goes into greater detail on how such regimes incorporate such paradoxes into their propaganda.

[@knightshousegames]

@@tejdandekar Thanks for the recommendation. Really good read.

[@holtby91]

Hey Jorin! Can you do a video on The real life inspiration for CQC?

[@johnnyscifi]

Phoenix's final form!!!

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

Another skullface classic

[@privatefoster1970]

AT MARKER 8:50 IN ORDER TO NOT DIE YOU MUST BECOME A MONSTER

[@danielpratt3794]

us there a part 3?

[@maeton-gaming]

coming soon

[@FitchTV]

If you ever need a voice actor or anything.i do both snake voices spot on..I need work bad.

[@DialloMoore503]

Hang in there!

[@alexanderplatzberlin3940]

👍Skull Face👍

[@rootin222]

18:32 we marxists argue that cultural rifts are problems that vested by bourgeoisie to divide the working class to cause the workers to never unite, although Lenin did make differences between. Nationalism whether reactionary or progressive. Nationalism, but not to be avoided but to be approached cautiously

[@nhlcbj]

Would you ever consider doing a video on the politics of Disco Elysium?

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

That, I'm sure, would probably be interesting...

[@jeremybds1901]

Hi I'm Lorin Jee. And this is my story.

[@privatefoster1970]

AT MARKER 19:40 PREPEARE FOR AMERICA TO ADVANCE IN AI TECH AND AUTOMATION DUE TO WHAT JUST WHAT HE JUST EXPLAINED

[@TheAquarius87]

At first glance, the story of mgsv is so lacking. But the more you look into it, the story is structured as an onion. This game gripped me... Second most favorite mgs game for me. (Sorry, but mgs3 is still king imo)

[@Oh_oh_its_Magic]

SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE

[@canaldecasta]

Such a lust for memes.... Who?!

[@luichinplaystation610]

It a great villain or a tragic one, the boss battle is overcoming all of his plans He hoped to eliminate all wars and achieve peace at that cost

[@opasan117]

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[@TheSolidlad]

I'm Hungarian, and it pains me whenever you pronounce "Székely" :D

[@billzsigray1504]

I think he’s doing it because there’s an American comedian named Louis “C.K.” Székely and it’s apocryphal that people mispronounced it as CK so he started going by it. Üdvözlet Sopronból!

[@TheSolidlad]

@@billzsigray1504 Interesting bit of trivia. Viszont Komáromból!

[@drkinferno72]

Gotta be born speaking Hungarian to get the pronounciation just right lol

[@drkinferno72]

So was skullface Romanian or Hungarian?

[@pulsarwave9248]

He was Hungarian but the land where he was born is part of Romania now.

[@juniorBigBoss745]

Incrível

[@boopbip1756]

33:15

[@thedailyunbreaded317]

🔴 PUT MORE AD's IN YOUR VIDEOS!!!

[@Rogue_Tiger]

🦆 Stalin bro, dudes been fcking over the world since he came to power.

[@T34RG45]

Is this only 30 minutes video going to have more than 5 ad breaks?

[@CLxJames]

19:48 - Man, I just really hate Communism. How could anyone think it’s an ideal system of government?

[@shalashaska5851]

The Kulaks will rise again.

[@neilvasu]

fyp

[@KotoCrash]

Probably the worst villain in the series, at the very least the most the most boring

[@custardgannet4836]

Major, I'm burning UUUUUUP!!!

[@A-B101]

I’d argue the best

[@KotoCrash]

@@A-B101 Lamo REALLY? Better than Big Boss?

[@A-B101]

@@KotoCrash As an antagonist yeah, he is a threat to Big Boss himself, and most importantly even Cipher’s biggest threat at the same time. He really embodies the antithesis of globalisation as shown in this video. But yeah it’s hard to say with a series with so many great villains such as Liquid or GW etc...

[@KotoCrash]

@@A-B101 That is such a childish way to look at it, wow.

[@Americansikkunt]

Capitalism > Communism

[@merodach566]

Laissez Faire Capitalism, that is.

[@whothoughtthiswasagoodidea]

There is another.

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

@@merodach566 Cringe

[@Americansikkunt]

@@whothoughtthiswasagoodidea Individual Rights > authoritarian Collectivism

[@piccolo1525]

@@Americansikkunt that’s a very disingenuous way to describe both capitalism and communism