Secrets in the Cutscenes of MGSV | THREE | Eyes on Kazuhira

[@Glassandcandy]

I don’t really buy the whole “ocelot is weird in this game because he’s under hypnosis”. The truth tapes show us ocelot before he undergoes treatment and he’s indistinguishable from the character we see through the rest of the game. I more subscribe to the idea that this is ocelots true personality. This is the only game where he’s not trying to trick everybody by putting on some outlandish character. He’s just helping the Boss(es) so he can more or less be his actual self for once- a highly intelligent, level headed and loyal man.

[@djbeema]

I like this take

[@PohTrain]

💯

[@bigboss1fan]

Lol that’s what I was thinking

[@MitchellHammond]

Yeah I thought that was the whole idea all along.

[@Spartanoffaith]

@Dutch Plan Der Linde The only difference between Ocelot here vs young Ocelot or old Ocelot is that Old Ocelot acts more like a toned down version of his youth. Here we see him no nonsense. Makes more sense that he was carefree at 20, tightened his sphincter at 40, cut loose at 60, and became Liquid around 70.

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

I never noticed the subtlety of Venom assuming whale was a delicacy when it was actually just cheap.

[@treemasterbob]

That theory about "the man who sold the world" tape being a subtle way of reinforcing Venoms brainwashing is genius. I'm sure many people heavily listened to that song exploring or put on there chopper speaker very early on.

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

Or still listens to it now irl because it's a good song

[@ArtofLunatik]

that song made me like the original bowie version. I like both of em but not the nirvana cover.

[@pauldank3453]

@@ArtofLunatik i love the bowie version so many accents and subtle effects and a fantastic song

[@kahlzun]

..i literally just changed my chopper song to that the other day..

[@quinadams8088]

ArtofLunatik I love the nirvana version. It doesn’t hit as hard as the other two in the context of Bowie’s story, or mgsvs, but I love it, it’s stripped back and the guitar and vocals do all the work.

[@Angels-3xist]

This game was on sale for $6 the other day. Not sure if it still is, but just in case anyone watching hasn’t played it.

[@Menaceblue3]

I would buy, but my computer does not fit min requirements for the game. My desktop is old late 00's hardware. Not much but I only use it for work.

[@tonylovesducks2501]

6 dollars? i bought the def. edition for 3-4 euros a month ago ^^

[@yeetleslaw8529]

@@Menaceblue3 I brought games my computer couldn't run because I knew eventually I would upgrade. If you're not planning on buying new hardware. You're better off saving your money. MGV isn't that amazing. It's the best gameplay of MG series, but it's very shallow and hollow compared to other MG titles. Also the main gameplay loop are not designed for people with OCD. I just got stuck raiding camps endlessly trying to upgrade items to tackle main missions. And I never really did the main missions because I always felt under powered and not ready. It's not a good open world design imo. They did better in death stranding.

[@silasmweri938]

I got the game along with gz a week ago. Right now I've got my first Mission in Africa. Until now the game is pretty good. But I think the game might get boring after some time. I got it for 7,50€ on steam and it was totally worth it

[@tonylovesducks2501]

@@silasmweri938 i doubt that it will get boring. you will get upset about something else but i wont spoiler of course. have fun !

[@tyo101]

In addition to being an excellent analyst of MG lore, Futurasound has shown viewers of his videos that MGSV has incredible depth in its narrative, of which many players were not fully aware.

[@jonatanperdomo432]

Dude, for years that's been the case. People complaining about this and that without the slighest idea of what narrative purpose anything serves.

[@RecluseBootsy]

He truly is the Professor of Kojimaism 101. I imagine if there ever was a collegiate course in Metal Gear lore, he'd be the only candidate for the job.

[@backflipsimmons]

There's definitely a hidden depth to V. At a surface view it falls way short of the typical MGS storytelling format. But like most MGS fans do, it takes reviewing and combing for details and indepth analysis to really get the full picture. It doesn't help that most people didn't play Peace Walker, not being a numbered title in the series. I've come around from my original stance on V, that it was a bad story. It's just different, I think PW did it better, but that's just my opinion. As great as the gameplay is, it doesn't make up for the fractured story structure, and insufferable Pequod intros every single mission.

[@iWillWakeYouUp]

Yes, and his videos are amazing. He's also grasping at straws in some cases, seeing patterns where most likely none were intended.

[@tyo101]

@@jonatanperdomo432 I agree with this point. I think people's expectations may have - somewhat understandably - been for V to have fed them a MGS2/4-style set of bloated codec calls or cutscenes to explain the narrative for them. What V actually provided was a more nuanced, layered delivery of its story. The use of the cassette tapes typifies this. Futurasound/Jorin does a brilliant job at analysing the depth of MGSV.

[@VideoRawDog]

Here it's another interpretation, what if Miller literally could not recognize Big Boss face. Taking into account that when you're in the ACC at night and zoom into the window you can see the reflection of you avatar instead, also Huey and the AI pod also don't seem to recognize him and in one point it's said that soldiers in the battlefield don't even know Big Bosses face only his reputation. So what I'm saying it's that Venom Snake real face during the game it's really the one we created as our avatar.

[@Tcatracing]

That;s a fun theory but it isn't true because Venom Clearly has Big Bosses facial features later in life unless you're going to suggest Solid Snake didn't know big bosses face, or that he knew Venom as his Big Boss, which is even less likely, though it would explain how he didn't know BB was his dad.

[@RecluseBootsy]

Fun theory, like the previous guy said but you're missing one crucial detail. Kaz is blind. The details of this theory just needs to shift to Venom's vocal pattern, since he rarely speaks as is and I full on agree. None of the Diamond Dogs knew what Big Boss actually looked like prior to being fultoned, the other enlisted men from GZ are all batshit crazy now too, so it isn't hard to pass him off without the facial reconstruction. All they need is the reputation and physical presence of the Phantom, like you said. It's only Huey, Kaz, and Ocelot who matter regarding their reactions toward Venom. Huey was dumbfounded and downright confused when he saw you, Kaz seems uneasy the whole time as well as undermines Venom's command every time, and Ocelot is technically your handler there to make sure the hypnogogia and ruse itself is effective. Even the AI Pod seemed confused that it was Snake. I'm thinking Kaz is the only one with a motive to overthrow you. A coup, of sorts. He stands by his idealism but he's also a traitor, but to what capacity on both counts? He threatened to shoot Venom out of the sky, he intentionally let the response teams get killed in the Metal Slug mission, he's been in recent contact with Zero, he's being kept from certain details of the Phantom project even if he's pieced it together on his own, and he's been uncomfortable on motherbase ever since he's arrived there.

[@Kaori_Lunaa]

@@RecluseBootsy actually Kaz is photosensitive

[@mjc0961]

@@RecluseBootsy Ooof, imagine lecturing people on "missing one crucial detail" and then going on to say Kaz is blind. You've missed the crucial detail that Kaz is not blind, he's just very sensitive to light.

[@OrphanCrippler1]

Either way the guy is right. The theory that its your avatar is wrong

[@dann536]

Outstanding effort , presentation and commitment to the cause Boss.

[@MatthewBester]

Lol I was googling about Miller's eyes last few days, handy!

[@brendanes157]

Snow-9 is a reference to Ice-9 in Kurt Vaunnegut's novel, Cat's Cradle. Ice-9 is a symbolic representation of the nuclear bomb and the end of the world.

[@jonesy279]

As much as the omission of David Hayter from MGS:V still hurts me, it would have all been forgivable if only they revealed him as the real voice of the real Big Boss in the end cutscenes/tapes.

[@SteelRims]

I still low key believe, that Kojima had this in mind at some point.

[@gothxm]

i like kiefer better. and ive played all the mgs. i love hayter as Solid Snake. That;s his 100% but if i oculd have big boss voiced by kiefer in say, a metla gear 1 and 2 remake (maybe done in a single game..) I'd be happy as shit.

[@actually-will1606]

If we had played those truth tapes and I heard Hayters voice I would have flipped my shit or when we replayed the truth mission.

[@Poketroid23]

@@SteelRimshe didn’t plan it, Hayter didn’t even know work on V started. Kojima has always been a huge movie guy and wanted celebrities in his games. Trying to replace Hayter in previous entries is also something a lot of other sources have confirmed.

[@SteelRims]

@@Poketroid23 whoa they did not inform him of the MGSV project? Damn.

[@hermanmelville3871]

For someone who supposedly never wanted to make anymore games in the series, Kojima sure put considerable effort into each succeeding iteration.

[@KnoxCarbon]

No creator really wants to see the legacy of their work tarnished, even if they don't want to work on it anymore.

[@aryandey3012]

17:46 Maybe Kaz is ironically telling himself That real Big Boss left him with the phantom when Venom spoke his name

[@abdelali9279]

I think the rescue of missing MSF personnel can be like a nod to the fact we accepted Venom as the real Big Boss in the beginning not for facts but for imagery, like if you walk towards them they repel you but if you hide in a cardboard box and play Love Deterrence they just accept you without any questioning. IDK it's just something I realize.

[@Big-BossX]

grabbing and interrogating them also has the same effect. when you let go after, they'll salute you aswell

[@theworld1739]

I dont think MSF and Miller knew who Ocelot was originally, so it reinforced the charade. Venom HAD to know him(hypnosis), but never met him technically, Ocelot even says 'I'm a friend' or something when they meet. Like he had to SUGGEST who he was.

[@MoosenOggen4343]

"I'm Ocelot. Big Boss, you know who I am" or something along those lines

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

Miller knew Ocelot's reputation and relationship with Big Boss, told by Zero

[@Glassandcandy]

Are we not going to talk about the subtle irony of ocelot telling boss that kaz would want boss to “put those 9 years behind him” and move forward as Big Boss, even though we’ll come to see that that is exactly the OPPOSITE of what Kaz wants. Kaz cannot accept the past nine years and move on, his whole motivation lies within clutching onto the past and getting revenge. It’s such a nice, subtle line. Sometimes you can forget that Kojima can actually use subtlety at times when he wants to lol

[@jza61nick]

I'm so happy to see new mgsv content as I attempt 100% it blows me away that it seems we really haven't figured everything out. What are those last two tapes about?

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

I think MGSV is the biggest puzzle in gaming history, and so many people were turned off by it when it first came out to really give it the time of day it deserved.

[@OrphanCrippler1]

People were turned off by its absolutely terrible open world, and the repeat missions.

[@SteelRims]

​@@OrphanCrippler1yeah. I was kinda expecting a more varied experience. It was pretty much Peace Walker again minus the horrible boss battles (which was the biggest plus).

[@joshuapatrick682]

I think the milky eyes of Kaz Miller is his cataracts..

[@venomstranded4357]

please never stop what are you doing sir

[@bigboss1fan]

Watching your videos is always a treat and insightful they have my own wheels turning. Like it’s interesting to see how many characters mirror each other Miller and Huey being one example. They both have a child through a failed marriage, both have worked for Cipher and claim to be on your side before leaving cursing Big Boss’s name, and they also point fingers at others when they don’t want to admit a wrong doing they did. Thank you Boss for all your hard work see you next time :)

[@boussIRL]

I think it's amazing that, in my many playthroughs of this game spread out throughout the years, so much of these themes, misdirections, hidden details, etc. that Futura points out in his plethora of MGS V videos went right over my head at the time, even though some are in plain site, I was just so caught up in enjoying the masterfully crafted gameplay of MGS and getting joyful entertainment out of it, that, even though hints of these things crept up, they weren't obvious enough that I would notice them over just enjoying a game. It's interesting how this melting pot of ideas and gameplay show to different players such as myself.

[@0bliviXx]

The same way that Kaz doesnt recognize snake ties into how Emerec and Strangelove (if you walk up to the PW AI core) fail to recognize him. Very apparent in the second playthough of the game

[@KBXband]

Ocelot: Rescue Miller. Snake: Got it. Its Miller time Ocelot: *fultons away*

[@frankjeager9043]

This is my favorite series on youtube. Youre a pro at this

[@danim4ux]

"or this video will be demonetized" wow savage

[@jedgrahek1426]

"I can't talk about the most important historical event of the past nearly 3 decades (since fall of Berlin Wall etc) without being demonetized" while the map is right between Saudi Arabia and Israel lol.

[@mashable8759]

pakistan xD

[@mehukattti]

Everything that Solidus feared twelve years ago... It's all come to pass 😭

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

Your content has inspired me to start my own MGS channel, @NagohNibor. I've been posting speed runs and stuff for now but I'm doing my own research to make my own essays about the games. Thank you very much for the thought provoking content, Jorin. :)

[@uloph8052]

Where the essay dawg :(

[@Ragna___]

With how the story unfolds in MGSV, how do we know that the Kaz we rescue is actually Kaz?

[@onma07ksa]

It's kaz no doubt about it. And the events he got through it made sense because of his betrayal during Zanibar mission.

[@mortman200]

I think it has to be an oil tanker. The imagery of the changing world with Snake passing from a whaler to an oil tanker is on point.

[@brandonyanosky2953]

These videos are great, you do a good job of explaining things most people didn't understand about MgsV

[@slowowned51]

I thought that when Kaz said no more use for me that was a reference to when he an ocelot talked about venom being the dopple ganger that they would have to protect. Maybe he was mad at the real BB and just wanted to get that out of system. But then again I could be yard's off :/

[@frankjeager9043]

That song at the end too.....paz segment. Mirage. The vision fades. Gets me every time

[@CourtneyCoulson]

"The past always remains with us, but how it's remembered and what it ultimately means is constantly changing with the present." That's going to stick with me a long time.

[@mostafakia9537]

Eyes on kazuhira... a MASSAGE from parasites...

[@dylangraf7459]

*message

[@mostafakia9537]

@@dylangraf7459 no shit sherlock

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

2:40 Never noticed those two ships being apart on the map until now. God I love these videos so much, it's so cool to notice stuff like this!!!

[@morderus0033]

@Neno ?

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

@@morderus0033 Right???

[@RecluseBootsy]

I can't wait to get into this topic. We all know Ocelot is a triple agent triple crossing everyone. Juggling agencies and handlers like he used to juggle those wheel guns. But Kaz... Oof, what a history. When I met the man, he was already dead in a cabin not too far from Shadow Moses. The only report I had was a... Phantom... of him by Liquid, it fooled his closest friends and set a baseline for the kind of man Miller was to his peers. By the time TPP came out, I felt like something was off with him the whole time. Telling Venom he's calling the shots but undermines him at every turn, refusing the prosthetics knowing where they come from, consistently opposes anything Ocelot suggests, flinches when Huey calls him a traitor too, and the nail in the coffin was Codetalker's cryptic warning. He had something to hide and it wasn't all laid out bare. The conversation with Zero isn't too damning. Spies gotta spy, liars gotta lie BUT what's Kaz's Endgame? His motivations? Where does his loyalty lie ultimately?

[@kellysmith7357]

burgers

[@joshuapatrick682]

The idroid is Kojima not getting sued by Apple or Android…pretty Smart damnit. I hate having to give creative geniuses credit. Makes me feel so, insignificant…

[@PizzaProphet]

I've watched so many marathon streams of the entire series, and I'm so ready to ABSORB another one of your breakdowns. Great channel. Thanks!!!

[@nomdegloom4898]

Great vid, and glad I found your channel. Subbed. One thing I'd like to point out about Kaz's eyes, though. Kaz has always had cataracts, implied to have been caused by his mother having an STI when he was born. It's why he has always worn sunglasses.

[@scottrichards9674]

I really appreciate that you deliver the story and the backstory of the unique past as well as the present , mgs games in a sense are not designed to make sense, that's what separates these games from others, just when you think you have everything figured out, the plot twisted. Great video my friend.👍👍

[@jamesoshea4702]

1 hour after premiere this video has 1.3k views. I really hope it continues up to and beyond the target because I love this series.

[@charleselswick5404]

Yes, I caught the premiere!! I don't miss any of your videos. I'm playing mgsv right now actually! It's replayability is great!

[@ciaranmcgrath3273]

I wish you could start a fresh game though ....

[@Fox_Pajama]

@@ciaranmcgrath3273 If you have PSplus, upload your PS4 save to the cloud. Then delete the save on your console. You get a brand new save WITH your online GMP and resources, eliminating a lot of grind.

[@TTCnoobyProductions]

I return to it regularly too 😂 those Soviet soldiers must dread hearing "Kids in America", knowing Venom is once again back to kill/kidnap them by the dozen

[@tonylovesducks2501]

me too bro ^^ started again a new game. glad there are many people who still play it.

[@ciaranmcgrath3273]

@@Fox_Pajama Sounds great but I'm on Xbox. I'd rather play the whole game in Subsistence to be honest. I like the stealth challenge.

[@derschubsi]

I just ralized why David Hayter isnt voicing Snake in MGSV, but Keifer Sutherland is. Its because you are not playing Snake, and thats also why Kaz doesnt recognize your voice when you free him.

[@sarahphyllis5782]

So true and well said

[@juniorBigBoss745]

Porém no ground zeroes vc joga com o snake original o verdadeiro big boss e já é o Keifer

[@hoangvuification]

i hate that youtube remove the fucking upload date of every video that is abit new

[@djbeema]

Also glad you brought up Silent Hill re: the way the Skulls move. I always thought of them as moving in a horror-creature way (perhaps specifically j-horror popularized that kind of jerky movement). As a horror fan I always enjoy the horror bits Kojima injects in to his games as they are usually quite excellent (which makes me think Silent Hills would've turned out pretty good :( I think their movement also resembles that of a marionette, which would make sense in representing the skulls, but also recalls psycho mantis controlling other people, especially the B&B corps in MGS4. Fwiw, I think "Voices" is a fantastic bit of horror gameplay. Slowly making your way towards and in to the Devil's House is one of the creepiest and unnerving sequences I've played.

[@yeetleslaw8529]

Spoilers: The idroid is a smart phone. It's name is clearly a reference toward the two biggest mobile platform: " i " phone and an'droid'.

[@benjaminfromcanadakanada3948]

Something to do with the gw ai!

[@SteelRims]

​@@benjaminfromcanadakanada3948the creepy thing is, mgs predicted a world controlled by and dependent on a wide information network. Look what we have in real life now.

[@dha1223]

Will you make an "what even happened" episode of the original metal gear and metal gear 2? Would love to hear a detailed decription of those games!

[@r3gret2079]

Nothing and no one can or ever will convince me that Ocelot actually hypnotized himself to forget such crucial things. Ocelot is just being Ocelot, playing the role he is supposed to for that time. Not Adamska, not Revolver, not Ocelot, but aid to Venom. I'll never believe he hypnotized himself then.

[@averagesionenjoyer8948]

Honestly i didnt know this could be that interesting thank you for the video futurasound

[@ZetaMoolah]

FS drops a video-> I dash

[@ivorreal]

I'm in love with these videos make more please

[@chengzhou8711]

It is always a good day when you upload

[@jordanw.97]

Great video, I can’t believe I never noticed how Miller has 3 days to live here and was killed 3 days prior Solid Snake infiltrating Shadow Moses. There’s a lot to unpack here but that’s very interesting.

[@paraphaseentertainment9549]

To say that this game is EXTREMELY layered would be a MASSIVE understatement!😄. Love the videos! Best game ever!

[@eggydrums]

Brother, when you spoke of miller’s eyes it seems you have a missing file in your Final Cut project. Whatever graphic you wanted to display there showed up as the “missing file” icon in this version you uploaded. 20:25 I spotted it and wanted to let you know.

[@FuturasoundProductions]

that sucks!

[@eggydrums]

@@FuturasoundProductions I feel ya. I edit on FCP too and it is annoying for sure. Great video nonetheless 💪🏼

[@tannersuitcaseroski]

This better get 25k views. 1. Because you deserve it. You do an amazing job with these and 2. Because its my favorite series right now. Keep up the great work!

[@pauldank3453]

i agree this is fantastic and it gave me a whole new appreciation of mgs v considering it seemed a bit bare bones compared to other the games

[@dmurphy915]

When you were talking about gift, I was reminded of the bomb that ocelot leaves snake in msg1

[@SteelRims]

Dude fudge that thing. I remember completely ignoring it even with the codec calls thinking that its a dud and then it explodes. 😂😂😂

[@ilikepigeons6101]

I just thought that Kaz said 'no use for me' is just directed towards the real Big Boss

[@backflipsimmons]

I had always assumed that too. I've gone through this game a handful of times and BB's character motivation still puzzles me. It would've helped if the game showed us more to the world wanting him dead, rather than just being told. Same thing with all of Zero's motivations and actions.

[@farryn874]

My theory on the skull unit's guns is that it is indeed formed with metallic archaea, as well as being composed of metallic archaea. We already know it can be used to enrich uranium, corrode metal, used in improving machines à la Huey Emmerich, and be used to puppet humans. So it's not too far fetched to say that the weapons are composed of the metallic archaea. It could be possible that the mist is an inert form of the archaea that the skulls can manipulate.

[@SteelRims]

I like this theory. The mist disappears as soon as they escape too. Its as if, its something they are emitting from themselves.

[@iWillWakeYouUp]

28:20 The turbulence also sounds very similar to when Mother Base is destroyed and BB+Kaz are trying to escape towards the helicopter.

[@javicabrera2164]

that's why you are the best boss, the one and only.

[@bigboss7681]

The three days Easter egg is quite clever

[@agen70range42]

Kaz's eyes are a result of cataracts

[@nomdegloom4898]

Super late response, obviously, but yeah. I thought Kaz had cataracts because his mother had an STI when he was born. That's why he has always worn sunglasses all the way back to his first appearance.

[@jamez_gamez]

Goddamn, your videos are of incredibly remarkable quality!

[@ChaseSBE]

No-one: Futrasound:W E T

[@joshuapatrick682]

28:53 that’s actually the exact opposite of subtle though isn’t it?

[@kakizakichannel]

Let me know what you smoke to be in the same headspace as Kojima

[@AvianSavara]

I've always been fairly certain that Ocelot was at least one of Miller's principal interogators / handlers (and the high likelyhood that he eventually becomes his assassin in 2005). Or that Miller was under his jurisdiction as Shalashaska. How else would he know so much about Miller than if he handled the matter personally. It is also not explicit in any game when the two met. I've always been puzzled by the change in Miller's eyes, along with Code Talker's cryptic warning about them. This is a fascinating mystery. There is much to indicate Skull Face spared Miller's life after the Skulls Unit ambush. This is ostensibly done to in order to draw Big Boss out from hiding and into the open. But in order to do so, he releases Miller into custody of Soviet forces, making him a visible and accessible target under Ocelot's purview. The exchange would likely mean he and Ocelot have a "gentleman's agreement", a game theory -style play between both spymasters and interrogators. Skull Face gets his wish, exposing "Big Boss" by using Miller as bait. Ocelot gains entrance into Diamond Dogs by only placing the Big boss' Phantom into harm's way, allowing Big Boss to escape Skull Face's notice. Later, Skull Face may have his doubts, but actually *seems* convinced he is facing the real Big boss when Venom and him meet at OKB Zero. Ocelot himself insists to Venom Snake how critical is is to play into Skull Face's plan by rescuing Miller, therefore further reinforcing Venom's confidence in him, Miller owing him one despite having every reason to hate him, and Skull Face being none the wiser about Big Boss. That's some good conning, con man. Skull Face likely had Miller injected with parasites not long before handing him off to Ocelot. The purpose and effects of that treatment could be anything from the medical intervention required to save the lone survivor of the ambush OR to use him as a trojan-horse style trap (just like he did with Paz) by implanting him with a strain of the vocal cord parasites, perhaps, in order to make him a transmission vector at Mother Base, OR an attempt to control him via the parasites in the event of his death (the second outbreak happens - after - his death, read only AFTER Huey makes absolutely sure he is dead and fiddling with the scanning equipment at MB, etc) Whatever actually happens, it seems Skull Face was using Miller in some way. Anyways... the ramblings of a madman!

[@waltlock8805]

Remember - Kaz speaks in the Chico tape where they are implanting the bomb into Paz "Give her the damn shot!". Miller and Skullface were working together, at least for a time.

[@AvianSavara]

@@waltlock8805 Interesting note! I never thought of that voice as belonging to Kaz.

[@peanut7650]

I’VE BEEN WAITING

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

15:27 this was supposedly composed by Kaz and Paz on Peace day, both of their names means "Peace" in Japanese and spanish

[@Bigzig2]

You mention how the game is filled with mirrors and inversions. In this scene Kaz is blind in his left eye from swelling. This is a mirror of Snake who is blind in his right eye.

[@Rynhelms]

Think I might start this game up again

[@jonatanperdomo432]

"BeT ThE PheNteM Pen... Et Never LeTs Ep"

[@chrishoward3733]

So big boss is really all the friends we made along the way

[@cezerelecrucio9717]

17:45 ish - Maybe Skull Face, to get Kaz on board with the whole "Venom Snake" thing??? Again though I know I've said this before but *god* I love it when the little details are put together like this. I never really thought of the fact that Kaz responded to English despite being in Afghanistan.

[@DayZeroChannel]

A good topic, would be why did ocelot not transfer snake to a chopper. Why a whale ship. Why don't we see the ship again in the game.

[@pseudonym9238]

Personally, I think it's just for storytelling reasons. They can continue with the Moby Dick reference while giving Venom time to recover, even if it is a stretch for him to regain all that muscle and become acquainted with his prosthetic arm in that short amount of time.

[@SerunaXI]

Wouldn't it be something if "Cyprus" was really in Cuba and Venom is put out for a few more days while he recovers his strength until the ship he rides legit ends up going into the Indian Ocean.

[@waltlock8805]

The most important thing to remember with Metal Gear lore is that EVERYONE is an unreliable narrator.

[@nashtheneet]

Millers first reaction to Venom might just be showing that his mind might not be all there due to the torture. And i don't think that Kaz used Parasites, like Code Talker, i just think over time his eyes because milky. I do believe that the Soviets tortured him to the point of blinding him which would also explain his state if mind, losing some sort of sense would not be good for someone's mental state.

[@theparadox420]

Question: how did Venom get so muscular within the 10 days from awaking? Do you think the syringe Ocelot inhected him with was some type of super steroid/nanomachines that rebuilt his muscle tissue within a couple of days?

[@Valkyries733]

Nanomachines, son

[@rizadon18]

The sneaking suit makes him look massive, especially the legs. Maybe it has enhancing properties like the one Solidus had in mgs2

[@Valkyries733]

@@rizadon18 Venom looks pretty beefy even without the sneaking suit. For example picking the "naked" options on the camo BDUs

[@TheCyndicate]

@23:20 ....OR.... the light references are in reference to lucifer. Notice that at the exact same time, the focus is on his ONE EYE. Having one eye removed is an act of devotion & loyalty in satanic organizations. The act is of course referencing the "all seeing eye" symbology. I would also be willing to bet that there is a major inversion in that scene. In heaven, lucifer was the light bearer. On earth, he is the inversion. The master of shadows.

[@geromendez5305]

You didn't adress the bionic arm change, from yellow to red. I Would really like to hear your thoughts about that. Btw, nice touch at the end, with the white thing.

[@TheHunter-um5bo]

I have a theory, maybe it makes sense. At the beginning we see that venom snake gets colour blind to red and now think the thing ocelot injects in snake makes him colur blind for a short period of time and he gets okay by the time they reach Afghanistan.. Sorry for my bad english:)

[@kyradixon7038]

@@TheHunter-um5bo I think so too and it's ok

[@palico004]

Metal Gear Solid was made for you. The series is completed by the fans relentless and insightful analysis.

[@casualtom907]

These videos are amazing!

[@dee-kay4311]

I've never seen someone mention how when you rescue miller and you say "kept you waiting, huh" snake says it differently for the first time ever. Because it isn't his catchphrase, not his words to speak. He knows the words but not how they're meant to be said because he isn't snake. He just thinks he is

[@Lagbeard]

If you want a the biggest theme of repetition and not escaping the past in Metal Gear, there is the whole concept of Outer Heaven. In every game, except MGS3, there is someone trying to make their own version of Outer Heaven. The biggest of these being Big Boss making his Outer Heaven in Zanzibarland which is supposed to be Tselinoyarsk after freeing itself from the Soviet Union.

[@airjbull]

Welcome back boss!

[@sw3aty_forte]

I hope you realize that you make THE best MGS content - and the best video game content - on KZbin. Keep it up!!

[@ItalianJoe83]

The first minute and fifty seconds of this video may also cause some "conflicts" with the "good listener's" "internal timeline" "for a special reason."

[@SunBrohan]

26:45 could also be the Japanese number translation which is 0(oh)-Ni "Oni"

[@jbark678]

27:27 Makes you think of Death Stranding's 3D printing, doesn't it?

[@vos3373]

To quote oneyplays "I love re-used assets!"

[@sarahphyllis5782]

But they didn't use Ground Zeroes music in Phantom Pain sadly

[@hardy3089]

Got my sub you lost me way back in vid one but damn I appreciate the effort I love this series and am ashamed to admit don’t understand the story that well these vids help keep up the good work!

[@nomad6737]

A fantasy of a favourable past, sounds familiar, given how everyone is nostalgic about the pop culture from the 80s and mid 90s in Hollywood and the obsession of bringing back favourable characters to sequels and remakes of old favourites in Hollywood.

[@ZGGuesswho]

god damn, these are really good

[@pseudonym9238]

The wackiest, most Kojima thing about MGSV is that it's all to fill a plot hole from the first two games that just came as a result of not realizing how big the series would get and how important the continuity would be as time went on.

[@danielnicholas9758]

The way Kaz drops his head it’s like he knows there and then the boss has abandoned him , maybe he doesn’t understand who or what venom is straight away , but I think he sees through it.

[@thebajanbots7131]

Do I really need to rewatch this video 1803 times to get part 4? Well was gonna do it anyway.

[@hasanalharaz7454]

Can you make a full timeline with every game?

[@Stowneyo]

Seeing giant horns and blood covered snake in all these videos just reminds me no body played this game right

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

*Me coming from MGS III to MGS V:* Wait a minute... who _are_ you?

[@sarahphyllis5782]

I don't think Big Boss created any base in South Africa but Zanzibarland in Africa as Outer Heaven