Sky Blue Black Arrow Outdoor Antenna Review

[@AntennaMan]

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[@jesshadfield3566]

I know what you mean about vhf stations being starved of power because there is a tower to the right of 1889 Laurel Run Road by the antenna farm up on Penobscot Knob operating on channel 8 but it only outputs 0.2kw

[@jonobester5817]

Hey Tyler, I paid you some money but don't recall getting a specific answer or recommendation for my area in Reno, NV

[@AntennaMan]

@@jonobester5817 send a follow up email. Sometimes my emails get blocked or sent to spam

[@RachelRenee3636]

Tyler, I think you would be proud of me! I was talking to my dad about antennas and which options he thinks are best on the market. He told me that no matter what you do, you must get an HD antenna. I abruptly lectured him on the point that companies use cue words like that for advertising purposes.

[@ClassicGuy57]

I like how this antenna company is a small business. I’ve always supported a small business wherever and whenever possible. I always help the little guy. And, Tyler’s KZbin channel has been some sort of a small business. I love seeing how the support for the channel grows. Keep it up!

[@villumschroeder1255]

Another thing is that with Ness you can call them and talk to the guy who is actually there and may well be the one filling your order. Very responsive customer service. I've ordered three or four times from them.

[@decibellone696]

have been on an antenna for 2 years now... the only problem I have is lower channel 2 (comes and goes, Las Vegas area)... after that, all is well... watching the Olympics and, am having fun doing so... listen to this guy he can save you thousands. I bought a silicone dust device to act as a DVR to work with my PLEX server (was lucky to get it in today's market) and am watching all i want when I want. have a few subscriptions my current bill including internet access is under $100 a month. - that's my goal. this guy helped me do it... kudos Antenna Man

[@marioescobedo1137]

Kudos to you ,Tyler. You are getting good sponsors for your channel.

[@ClassicGuy57]

Yep. With good sponsors come excellent, informative and quality videos.

[@tonyv8925]

I have been in communications for about 40 years and understand your programs. Still, I enjoy watching your videos and every now and then I pick up some info. Thanks for sharing.

[@defendersgamingnetwork4250]

Wish you could do an AntennaMan Score like Doug DeMuro does for cars, that way we can see how everything stacks up overtime. You could also add a test of nextgen ATSC 3.0 to the antenna score, to help us know how things settle out going forward. Thanks for all the great work!

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

I would pay to see that

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

BTW how the hell did you create your channel 8 years ago and still only have one subscriber now 2 including me?

[@dboy6400]

@@simongrayakarapgod3158 Over 16k subscribers.

[@power-max]

And **THIS** . . . is the Sky Blue Black Arrow Outdoor Antenna, and *I* am going to go over all the strange and weird QUIRKS and FEATURES of this _incredible_ antenna, starting with the ROBUST austrailian design 🤣

[@hayseed5467]

I've been a ham op for 50 years, so antennas are in my blood. These vid's are great. The only thing that baffles me is this "better than the last two antennas I tested" business. That seems like moving the goalposts after every touchdown. How about a simple table showing antenna models across the top, TV station and RF freqs down the side and maybe highlighting the antenna under test? Other than that these videos are great and I hope to cut the cord very soon. - WBØDVM

[@bobh.4580]

I agree with everything you said. The videos are great. The Antenna man video series is well done. To your comment "better than the last two antennas I tested" I agree and I'm sure Tyler could tell you hasn't got the time to do the Intensive testing like back-to-back tests on the same day. The only thing I can say is when you're comparing antennas you have to make sure the conditions are correct which means doing it on the same day preferably in the same span 15 minutes to a half an hour because RF signals can change. Very labor-intensive. I like to have both antennas ready to go and switch between the two rapidly Channel by Channel. Again, climbing up the roof or ladder and doing back-to-back tests can be tiring but its necessary to get a true understanding of how well one antenna performs against another. I've tested antennas one hour apart and have seen a huge difference on the same antenna, same aim etc.... Weather conditions seem to be the biggest factor.

[@kevinhawthorne5257]

Thank You for all of your videos that you did. I am enjoying all of them.

[@MikeSparksMusic]

Love those VHF elements! Sounds like a great company selling a variety of antennas that the Antenna Man recommends.

[@MatthewBrannigan]

The Sky Blue slogan “You Only Want To Climb The Roof Once” - reminded me of the tragic end of Rod Hull (of Emu fame) - if he had a Sky Blue antenna he’d still be with us today!

[@1L6E6VHF]

I have a recording of an Emu's Broadcasting Company promo on YT (look up "2nd December 1979" and "BBC-1") The station break is particularly ominous. FWIW, that antenna seems pretty wide for a VHF-High-only antenna. I wonder if that is necessary because Aussie television has a unique channel 5A, which is just below the 2m amateur band!

[@jayjaybar1188]

On my experience, additional Log Periodic Dipole Array on VHF is not only adds gain for VHF reception, but it helps improve UHF reception as well. The shorter VHF elements which is designed for High VHF channels can pick up also UHF signals even on a reduce power, thus it added the signal strength with the signals received by the UHF Yagi antenna. Im using an all-Yagi antenna before, but I've changed to a combo Yagi-LPDA antenna because I'm considering FM reception, but the results gives even better.

[@danbasta3677]

This looks like a really great tv antenna to be used and it looks to be sturdy and well built. I like the design.

[@paulziminskin2ghr282]

Tyler your always right on the money .. Keep up the great work ...

[@brianfletcher9774]

Tyler, my friend just bought two of these. They are each pointed different directions, but with a pre-amp; they are AWESOME ! He gets Sioux Falls, SD stations & Worthington, MN PBS as well as Sioux City, IA and Norfolk, NE PBS. So 3 PBS networks, and 2 (one in each market) of the other BIG 4 networks and their digi-nets. 84 channels.

[@theboldfuture2341]

Calling sponsored showcases a “review” is a violation of ethics, if not the law. I was excited to find your channel, Antennaman, don’t “sell out” and compromise your audience.

[@isaackvasager9957]

umm...it is a review...and he said it was sponsored. He did precisely what every youtuber does/is required to do.

[@petesmith8362]

Love the channel. Always great honest info! How about doing some radio antenna reviews??

[@AntennaMan]

I already have a video on FM antennas

[@fuijika]

I am very disappointed you didn't drop the ping ding bing antenna on the ground in this video, keep the tradition mate! Cheers it was a good review!

[@alcarbo8613]

Can you do a review of a good Low-VHF antenna considering your currently living in Metro Philly which of course has the dreaded ABC 6 I think it’s the perfect time to try

[@AntennaMan]

I have a video on low VHF antennas. Check out my other videos

[@alcarbo8613]

@@AntennaMan I know you did a video were you suggested Low-VHF Antenna’s but I don’t think you’ve tested one since you moved to Philly

[@AntennaMan]

@@alcarbo8613 that's because none of the antennas I tested had low VHF elements. I'm not sure if I ever will review one with low VHF as my videos of larger antennas perform poorly compared to smaller more consumer friendly antennas.

[@1L6E6VHF]

FWIW- If you want a short triband antenna, time may be running out. The Winegard HD7000R has been discontinued, you may have to search for one now.

[@JustJaidenism]

Wait, Metro Phi- I COULD'VE RUN INTO THIS GUY BEFORE AND I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN BRUH

[@caseyhartman7094]

I ran across Sky Blue last year and noticed two or three of their models claimed higher VHF gain than similar sized antennas. Sky Blue does look like their antennas have good build quality.

[@JerryHickey-1958]

I have been lucky , the Antennas i have seen your channel have worked very good for me , if had not been for channel , i would not able to get a very good Antenna , a clear antenna , it has short VHF , but i was able to m use to metal rods to extend those short VHF rods , if had been for that i would not been able to get those low VHF channels , but the Antenna is incredible , but if had been for your channel i would never known about this antenna .

[@georgef551]

You got to remember in the analog days, you didn't need that much power for VHF stations to cover a serviceable area. WBZ 4 came in just as good at 30KW, as channel 38 (WSBK) did at about 1MW. You didn't need power to reach if the frequency is low. You need the wattage to make up for the current draw to generate (much) higher frequencies. WBZ AM 1030 can be picked up well into Canada, and people told me it comes in good in Pennsylvania most of the time. At their 50KW of power, you can go far with a mere 1.03MHz signal, but only 50 miles out on channel 7 (multiple call letters, WNEV as I remembered as a kid).

[@1L6E6VHF]

But it's not that simple. There are many different modes of radiowave propagation that can deliver a signal far past the horizon. On the AM broadcast band, a small station with a short tower, low power, a frequency near the top of the band, and poor soil conductivity, may have a signal only about 10 miles away before its signal becomes weak. A more powerful station (50kW), on excellent soil (e.g. CBK in Canada's Saskatchewan Province), covers nearly all of Saskatchewan day and night - an enormous area, as well as parts of Alberta and Ontario, North Dakota, Montana, and Minnesota. In fact, at night, skywave reception is found on the "clear channels" about nine nights out of ten (auroral conditions may cause blackouts of this "skip" reception). Shortwave radio signals can even be heard on the opposite side of the Earth, and the same signal may interfere with itself by "long path" signals from the opposite direction. Long distance television happens, but direct reception of television at great distances is far more rare (like less than 2% of the time). The usual modes on TV and FM radio are Tropospheric refraction and Sporadic-E skip (usually June in the Northern Hemisphere and December in the Southern).

[@canadianmike711]

You can get Boston TV in Yarmouth just like you did in the 1950s and 1960s.

[@robbehr8806]

Looks good for the Phoenix, AZ area, due to the RF channels used here.

[@cohort6159]

I really don't know what I'll do if I need a new antenna. My current antenna is a Radio Shack Color Supreme I bought in 1980. It was advertised as a 100 mile antenna. I rebuilt it once and it is now an attic mounted antenna on a rotor. It seems to still do a good job.

[@sandy0078888]

Nice informative video Antenna Man. Keep continuing posting videos.

[@kennitobunge1062]

I have a sky blue antenna and I get every single Channel in my area which is over a hundred channels of local stations

[@WiIdbiII]

The TV antenna at my parents house was put up in 1968. It's about 25 feet high it still looks new today.

[@kensmith5694]

Yes, some of the old ones were made of very good stuff. It was likely made before the accounting department metastasized and spread into the engineering department.

[@victoryfirst2878]

L really like your antenna choice from Australia . The antenna seems to be way better with durability, fit and finish that the others on the market. Also, I am thinking of just making my own antenna with a design from the internet and make the conductive elements of copper and the rest thicker gauge aluminum. The rest nylon will make this last past my lifetime for sure. Unless a tree falls onto the antenna. Nice information for us all to use Tylor. Peace too.

[@2012hansenracin]

Have you done any reviews of the sky view sb22? I’m strongly looking at the sky view sb22

[@mmm7m672]

I went back to antenna a few years ago. There are a lot of good stuff on the air now. In Abilene area 3 to 4 channels on each abc NBC & CBS but I can't get fox which is out of San Angelo .... thank you for the help

[@jeffarthur322]

Finally a antenna that I may try for my rv . May sound strange but need me some vhf on the road Thanks

[@frankm496]

I'm glad that you keep on stressing not to buy the junk like the Wing, Ding, Ping antenna types. You really are wasting your money , time, and maybe your life . Thanks for making us aware of all the many quality antennas like this one that are available. I'm sure the companies are watching your channel. We can only hope that it spurs them to make even better quality product? Competition is a good thing Tyler, from your research are you seeing any sizable increase in antenna sales? I'm just wondering?

[@petedan5746]

A few vhf channels here broadcast on the same channel as displayed

[@shrugger1]

You only want to climb the roof once 💯

[@TEA-fj3ut]

Nice slogan. Thanks for the update never heard of Ness electronics. Could use longer elements to reach low VHF, still I like the rugged coated elements and design.

[@peterflynn2111]

LOW VHF was phased out here in Australia only ch 6-12 on VHF now 170 250 mHz range

[@sherrilmason1195]

Thanks for the info never heard of this company I tried all the other small antennas out that you have tried my local vhf ABC station is 43 miles away the only one I can find that would pick it up was from My Cable Mart glad to see there's another antenna out there the only problem I see it cost $150 the one I ordered only cost about $55 yes there was a $25 shipping fee however if you ordered off Amazon sometimes Amazon will let you have free shipping

[@miguelsalami]

I like the L👀KS of this SKYBLUE Yagi antenna! Great Review👍👍

[@MrMikey1273]

I found this brand when I was looking around for hi vhf antennas. They are a little bit more expensive but if the build quality is good then it would be worth it. However my stellar labs hi-Vhf antenna is doing much better now that I moved it a few feet higher. Still not getting 80% on junky WHTM 27 but I'm now only seeing noise and interference when storms come through which I can deal with when it's weather related.

[@Dwayne7834]

Good review and video thanks for sharing

[@mikej9564]

I live in an hoa controlled neighborhood. No antennas are allowed on the roof. Will antennas work at 5 feet off the ground with a house between the antenna and the station that is 50 miles away?

[@AntennaMan]

HOA restrictions on outdoor antennas are illegal. See video below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHurZGZjbbJoaK8

[@amerigovespucci4076]

Tyler, having lived in Australia, in the past the frequencies used there and in the U.S. did not correspond exactly. Wondering if these Sky Blue antennas are engineered for the U.S. market and its' associated frequencies??????

[@AntennaMan]

They aren't engineered specifically for the US but most antennas aren't anyway. They still perform very well. Look my other antenna reviews. This one did much better than many "american" antenna companies that important their antenna from China.

[@1L6E6VHF]

Australia had channels well below US Channel 2. In fact, they even had a Channel "O", as well as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 5A (a very unusual channel just below the 2m amateur band). In general, Channel "0" (you would be outing yourself as a foreigner if you called it zero instead of "Oh") was commercial, 1 through 5 were ABC stations (the equivalent of the U.K. BBC or Canada's CBC), channels 7 and up were usually commercial. In the largest cities the channel was specific to its market. Seven, Nine and Ten (proper nouns) were locked to their synonymous networks.

[@keithtrinity3940]

Their antennas -significantly- drop off below about 525Mhz! (look at their own spec sheets). So poor for USA ch14-22! How about they build a North American Market version for 470-608Mhz??

[@twochaudiomg2578]

what do you do if you want to get the golf Channel?

[@roxcyn]

Can you use outdoor antennas indoors?

[@bobh.4580]

Sure! If you have room.

[@mikehoffman3690]

How about a top 5 antennas video based on prior reviews.

[@marc_strand]

@AntennaMan Have you done a video on the Sky Blue SB22?

[@bryancassaro]

Looks like a sweet rig. Dang HOA... Lucky to have my HAM antenna up with out neighbors complaining. Would love to install this.

[@MAGA_Trump_Warrior]

HOA is not allowed to stop you from putting up an antenna. That's federal law and the Karens of the HOA can't stop the law no matter how much they try.

[@bryancassaro]

@@MAGA_Trump_Warrior I LOVE your YT name!!!!!

[@bryancassaro]

@@MAGA_Trump_Warrior I am allowed pet HOA to have an antenna, but it has to be on the non street side of my property and out of sight from the road. That's no problem, but I am a HAM too, so maybe I could work it out!

[@jasong.6084]

@@bryancassaro if the reception is at a comparable level, that restriction might be valid. However, you should check the FAQ on the FCC website. There's a very in-depth explanation of when restrictions are allowed and when they're not. Most restrictions for reasonably sized antennas are illegal.

[@craigosterberg5045]

Thanks for the video

[@torg0]

I'm on the fence with this and the Range Xperts "insane gain" model. Price is what's is tilting me in one direction.

[@johnrecord4953]

Great video I'm interested in how you think the BA200 would compare to the Winegard HD7694p.

[@twochaudiomg2578]

that's a good looking thing maybe the best looking i want one

[@jessequinonez9788]

Have you ever found a good indoor antenna something that really works good

[@peterflynn2111]

The best indoor antenna if u are in a UHF area is a Phased Array or Bow antenna as the Americans call em easily mounted inside high gain

[@bobh.4580]

You've got to go review by review, but he has tested some indoor antennas recently.

[@jessequinonez9788]

No I haven't yet

[@waylonrobinson6798]

What antenna should I buy?? The one I have is a 70 mile electric rotation unit!

[@wishingb5859]

Wondering if I could attach something like this underneath my carport roof, rather than on my roof?

[@kensmith5694]

Yes, that works so long as the roof is not a metal roof or anything. Higher is better with antennas but one inside a roof can be high enough if you don't have any stations that are a long ways off that you want to get.

[@wishingb5859]

@@kensmith5694 Thanks. I get most of the channels without having an outdoor antenna, but used to get 6 more channels that disappeared recently, so I would like to try one outside but I have solar panels and don't want anything else on the roof but I have a carport and my carpenter offered to put it there for free for me.

[@JRobert111111]

While I like to support small businesses, I don't when their price is way too high; not just a little, but a lot. This is the case with Ness and the Televes #148381 antenna I've been waiting quite some time for. I stay in contact with the main person at Televes in Aurora, Colorado and they're due in any time now. Ness lists this antenna for $60 more than another retailer, and then shows it on sale for $30 more than another retailer, but with an extra shipping cost. Anyway, please keep up the great videos, I love your presentation style and the humor mixed in.

[@villumschroeder1255]

I got the Televes Model #149783 back in May. It was the same price at Lowes, where I ordered it. When it finally arrived it was damaged. I had to return it. What a hassle. Actually I guess it was $4.00 cheaper at Lowes with my retired military discount. But I gladly paid that extra for the trouble free Ness experience.

[@JRobert111111]

@@villumschroeder1255 Thank you for sharing your experience, that's good to know!

[@jrs9264]

unlike Televes, this doesn't have built-in lte filter and pre-amp. therefore, you will have coax signal loss without also buying a seperate preamp. yes, the extra signal does help vhf signals, if you have a reception problem.

[@AntennaMan]

You won't have much signal loss in the coax as long as you use a thick high-quality RG6 quad shield cable

[@peterflynn2111]

In Australia we do not have that problem as net is 900 Mhz and above so no need for LTE filters and FM traps

[@shaunosmorrison8385]

We have antennas in Australia that look identical to that black arrow antenna, pretty sure they have black arrow in their name too

[@gregpain8541]

They are made (and labelled) as Hills. If set vertically, they are excellent for capturing DAB+ radio as well.

[@hendynugrohotrihatmojo5385]

Sayangnya, tidak ada antena merek Televes, Sky Blue, atau Winegard yang dijual di negara saya.

[@Atis602]

Good review Tyler definitely considering this one if I'm willing to give up on my one VHF Low channel it looks a lot sturdier than most others available. I have a general question for you. With the FCC repack done now shouldn't antenna manufacturers be redesigning their antennas to best accommodate the new narrower assigned band width. It seems to me the benefits for them and consumers could be pretty big. The consumer should be able to get a smaller antenna optimized at the center of the needed range which would ease installation and improve performance. The manufactures would benefit from using less materials in construction and having a smaller package to ship. There are probably other benefits I haven't even thought of. Are you aware of any manufacturers working on or offering new designs? Maybe it would be worth waiting to see what comes out before purchasing anything now.

[@robm7076]

No gain chart or specs for this one on the site?

[@johnjohnson1313]

Hello.Do you(or anyone) know what would be the best external antenna for a little 7" portable TV I use in my car? Need one to pick up stations from a fairly long distance. Thanks for any recommendations.

[@Mike-01234]

I had no idea that old low frequency used before was no longer in use my area CH 3 is actually ch 24. I bought two cheap antenna's off amazon now they are trash $60 down the drain.

[@stuarthirsch]

Please review antenna rotors.

[@MrKoladge]

Can you review the AntennaCraft U-8000 UHF antenna? This antenna actually pulls in my 35 mile away VHF stations with full strength.

[@MrClassicalMusic1]

Any plans to review the Antop AT800SBS antenna?

[@paulrebane1506]

How would you compare this antenna to the Winegard Platinum, particularly in an attic install?

[@AntennaMan]

It's about the same

[@robertheckman9813]

Is there any difference between antennas with a reflector (corner reflector) or just a straight antenna like this one? Do they all work equally well?

[@jasong.6084]

A reflector will make an antenna more directional. This can be useful if you're trying to pick up a distant station, or when you're trying to null out unwanted signals. Can you please clarify your question about "working equally well"?

[@pblo702]

What would you call it when a channel breaks up badly despite coming in with 25 dB of signal? (Using a Samsung TV to determine antenna signal.)

[@AntennaMan]

There's either interference from an electric lines, LTE, or multipath

[@pblo702]

@@AntennaMan Does the same apply for channels with good signal that would go completely out and display the message "Mode not supported" or "TV format not supported"?

[@AntennaMan]

@@pblo702 Yes. Some TVs display that when the signal drops out. The solution is a better antenna. Refer to my KZbin channel or visit my website for an antenna recommendation. Some antennas don't do well with multipath

[@butterbean4195]

love the idea of being black.i have ham radio antennas i painted black.

[@mattgore3951]

Hey Tyler Where's WPVI ?

[@AntennaMan]

It's not tested on antennas that don't have low VHF elements. Most antennas aren't low VHF capable but I did test a few over the summer. Make sure to check out my other videos or sign up for my antenna recommendation service below if you want me to recommend an antenna that will pick up 6ABC at your location. antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html

[@richardweimer8460]

I had the junky tv antenna it fell and broke on bottom as it hit grass amd dirt junk like you said This one looks good

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

I don't know if this would require a new inquiry, but could I possibly replace the recommendation that you gave me with this?

[@AntennaMan]

Please send a follow up email so I can check what antenna you were recommended and how this one compares

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

@@AntennaMan I already sent you an email a couple hours ago

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

I cannot reply directly to the email from 2 months ago, my email client won't let me so I'm just going to tell you the antenna was the Televes long range mix.

[@AntennaMan]

@@simongrayakarapgod3158 what's the name you filled out on the form?

[@simongrayakarapgod3158]

@@AntennaMan I think Simon Gray Edit. BTW my email is that [e-mail] Edit2. After we're done I will edit this comment and change it so they can't find out anything

[@billhendrickson1831]

What low vhf antenna would you recommend?....

[@AntennaMan]

It depends how strong or weak the signals are. Check out my other videos for more antenna reviews of sign up for an antenna recommendation at the link below: www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html

[@billhendrickson1831]

@@AntennaMan well the signal is fairly strong and I am using the Channelmaster cm 5018 and the televes preamp....I'm in Toms River NJ and receiving the broadcasts from Philly....all the channels are great except for ABC which is low VHF...it comes in fine most of the day but at night it starts breaking up....guess it is some kind of electrical or something like that interfering with the signal....oh well...back to the drawing board...

[@stephenbay9564]

Your videos are GREAT. Thank you for doing this, since as you know - nobody else really is. One question - If you use one specific antenna, do you see much signal variation over a period of a day, or even a few days. I receive 120 channels with the antenna I have, but 3 of these seem to hop between 50%, and then fall into the 30's (and drop out) over a period of less than an hour. Is signal variation "usual", and to be expected?

[@peters8758]

UHF can be affected by foliage. If the weak or medium signal follows a straight line thru your neighbor's mighty chestnut tree, especially when the winds pick up, pray for insects and be glad there's nothing to watch in mid-summer anyway. When the new shows debut, those leaves will drop and your reception will improve. Or maybe your antenna's cable end is not secure or isn't very weatherproof, and the huge signal loss is at the connector way up where everybody who starts at the bottom ruins the job up top by just cutting the too long wire with a jacknife, jamming a cheap indoor connector into it, and covering the hack job with some black tape... (personally, I blame squirrels)

[@stephenbay9564]

Thanks for all that. So please let me just add a few things. For one, the connections appear solid. And if there was a connection issue, I don't think that just 3 of 120 channels would be going up-down, I think they all would, right? But they don't...just 3. Next is - what's really a twister, is that the 3 that do the up down, are coming from the same transmitting tower, as several other channels I'm getting, and these other ones are much more stable (for lack of a better term). These are from the Freedom Tower, in lower NYC, and I am in central NJ. What I started to think, was that perhaps there is some kind of multipath coming in, and causing this intermittent "disruption" of the channels. I'm at a point where I am considering moving the antenna to a new location, to see what effect that has. So then if I "conclude" something from your words, if there are no trees (foliage), and no multipath, one should expect to see a relatively constant signal strength. Sound about right?

[@peters8758]

Good, that narrows it down. Perhaps the worst channel on the Freedom Tower transmits at considerably lower power and/or is furthest from the top. ATSC is an all-or-nothing format. Weak signals are either good enough (except for a few artifacts) or garbage. Old NTSC (analog) signals just got snowier as they became weaker. That's why it was worth asking about the connector. It's easy to overlook a nasty end if the rest of the cable looks decent. Btw is the worst transmitter at the edge of the spectrum (RF 7, 14, or 36)? Sometimes there's interference on the out-of-band adjacent frequency.

[@stephenbay9564]

@@peters8758 Thanks again for all that. The channel giving the biggest problem is ION-TV, UHF channel 31, and CBS, UHF channel 36, which is coming from the same tower - comes in very strong. So the problem child is not a band edge issue (it seems). I have a digital tuner/converter box that displays signal strength (on demand - press info twice), and CBS on 36 reads "70", and ION on 31 reads "40-45", and often drops out. That's why I said this was very strange. At this point my only (practical) guess is multipath. And since the 2 channels I mention are at slightly different frequencies, the "adding, or subtracting" of a bounced signal, may be improving (or not affecting) one (CBS), and at the same time squashing the other (ION). BUT.....unless whatever is causing the multipath is "moving around", I cannot see why at certain times ION has the "45" number and looks solid, and then 10 minutes later I watch it drop below "39", and drop out.

[@ZZ24AS]

Oh,wrong there is one Italyan guy doing the same,but i understand Tayler better.😎

[@martz1191]

This might help with 6abc.

[@AntennaMan]

I'm not sure how much it will help with 6abc because it does not have any low VHF elements. Check out my video on low VHF antennas to learn more.

[@winterburden]

I think you might have forgotten to mention if it's an HD antenna🤔

[@villumschroeder1255]

lol good one

[@keithtrinity3940]

BUT they don't make a USA model that covers the low end of UHF, approx USA channels 14-20. Take a look at their spec sheets!! I would get one of these if it was built for USA channels 14-36, 470-608Mhz!

[@bobh.4580]

And it didn't seem to do so good on the lower UHF Channel 17 And definitly worse than the Televes. And I'm sure this was before the repack designs.

[@2xrpm]

Review a Dennys Stacker.

[@teeveeviewerski3381]

Was there an amp used on the Black Arrow?

[@peterflynn2111]

Does not look like it in video mast head amps need to be close to aeriel for best results

[@teeveeviewerski3381]

@@peterflynn2111 Oh I know the unit has no amp as it is purchased. I'm wondering if Tyler used an amp. If not, that would be great, as the antennas he compared them to (Televes) are amplified. If so, well...

[@peterflynn2111]

@@teeveeviewerski3381 No he was not he like me should know enough not place amp too far from the antenna ; LOG PERIODICS work well i tried one here for a mate i Got Melbourne tv here in Sebastopol Victoria Australia 100 miles from transmitter very good considering size of it

[@teeveeviewerski3381]

@@peterflynn2111 So you know Tyler did not use an amp?

[@peterflynn2111]

@@teeveeviewerski3381 well in video you cannot see one amd i do no think he would put amp away from antenna but that something you will have to ask him

[@michaelmarcus2318]

In analog TV days I lived in Japan for a year and was surprised how Japanese homes generally got better TV reception over the air than US homes at that time even though they both had identical NTSC analog systems. there were 2 key differences in the Japanese home TV ecosystem then: 1) Japanese like to replace and upgrade appliances including TVs every few years and at that time most consumers bought electronics from a neighborhood appliance dealer/denkiya/ 電気屋, でんきや. These stores would deliver and install appliances including checking and repairing/replacing TV antennas as needed. I suspected that a lot of US home with outdoor antennas never had the antenna or cabling checked and that was a factor in poor reception. 2) Japan's equivalent of FCC presses TV broadcasters to colocate their broadcasting antennas. This had been considered in the US in the 50s and was strongly opposed by the networks. So in Tokyo, Tokyo Tower and now Tokyo Skytree are common towers for TV broadcasters. So one home antenna can get all stations well without a rotor. Turns out that with colocation, you can also create more TV stations in a community - something the networks certainly didn't want. Keep up the good work!

[@haroldhechinger5850]

We are starting to see that a bit here in the US. With the DTV conversion in Indianapolis, most of the stations moved to the NE side of the city. Before there were six different sites, now only two sites (NW Indy and Trafalgar) remain.

[@peterflynn2111]

Same here in Australia transmitters are in the one location

[@joelongjr.5114]

You won't be throwing this one to the floor! Unlike some of the other junk antennas you've reviewed. I also believe the FCC set the power levels artificially low to clear VHF high and low of television signals, so they could re-designate those frequencies for other services.

[@jasong.6084]

That's one possibility. Another is that since VHF frequencies can "bounce" more based on atmospheric conditions that the low power level is supposed to prevent adjacent markets with VHF stations from interfering with each other. Perhaps the power level restrictions were based on an older belief that more stations would be broadcasting on VHF. Regardless of the original reason, it certainly seems like the FCC should review the VHF power level restrictions based on current and emerging technologies, such as ATSC 3.0, and determine what changes can be permitted to help stations on VHF improve reception, especially since we're now limited to channels 2-36.

[@waylonrobinson6798]

If you have any recommendations for a good one send me the info

[@bjs2022]

The end clamp has one advantage but it is unbalanced, unlike the big models from from Channel Master and Winegard although I was informed that it can be moved. It may be a good performer but the list price is high. You may do better by selecting a big Winegard model that is made in the U.S.A. Other Blue Sky models are allegedly made in America but Televes antennas are made in Spain. Channel Master is no longer made in the U.S. and their antennas are composed of components from “all over”. Tyler apparently forgot the big Stellar Labs VHF model had the highest gain of all the antennas he tested but that is because it is a VHF only antenna.

[@gregpain8541]

The end clamp can be moved easily. I've actually moved mine to be far better balanced, weight wise. It can also be set up easily to receive vertical transmissions, or DAB+ radio if need be. These are very popular here in Australia. Strongly constructed to withstand not only weather, but wretched sulphur crested cockatoos which are very destructive, especially when a flock of the buggers decide to land at the same time.

[@johnrecord4953]

"Channel Master is made in the U.S." ??? They were before 2000 but they went Bankrupt. PPC bought them, closed the factory in NC, moved production to SE Asia and opened a sales office in Arizona.

[@bjs2022]

@@johnrecord4953 Yes, you’re right, thanks. When I called them last year and asked them where their stuff was made they said “from all over“. Certainly their electronic components indicate they are made in Asia and I suspect their antennas have metric fasteners.

[@dalesworld1308]

That chinese antenna design showed up on FB marketplace and it states it has a 990 mile range. Nine HUNDRED and ninety. Hilarous....

[@kbeast98]

Thats a nice antenna.. Wish it had low vhf though

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Yeah it looks pretty cool and the design of it.

[@peterflynn2111]

LOW VHF was phased out here in Australia round 20 years ago only VHF here is CH6-12 170 250 mHz range

[@kbeast98]

@@peterflynn2111 that makes sense then!

[@peterflynn2111]

@bn stndrd NO DAB+ uses old VHF 9 AND 10 198 TO 215 MHZ I can get DAB+ from Melbourne here in Sebastopol Victoria even though transmitters are 100 miles away from here

[@peterflynn2111]

@bn stndrd Regular FM i can get Shepparton 22O KM SWAN HILL 250 KM H orsham 210 km Mt Tassie in Gippsland 240 km Warrnambool and Hamilton 170 km at night Griffith 400 Km

[@amanor409]

The junk antennas aren’t all bad. They likely saved some budget on WandaVision because they needed something to show they were picking up a broadcast signal. You don’t necessarily need to spend $100 or more for a tv show prop.

[@nathandebartolo8330]

Tyler, can you review the different brands of tin foil on the market? I moved recently and I'm having reception issues here picking up the CIA. I'm getting a decent signal for the FBI and the NSA breaks up sometimes when an airplane flies over. Thanks!

[@bobh.4580]

You should make your tinfoil hats out of Reynolds Wrap, use 2 layers with Saran Wrap in between to filter out UV rays. The CIA is now using UVA and UVB also

[@davidwalle5025]

another good video, defenders of junk a good title.

[@JohnnyD]

another man's trash is another man's treasure

[@ethanpender9586]

Don’t mind us Aussies. Most of the time, weak signal comes from EXTREME weather (like very heavy rain).

[@stephenbay9564]

Yes, the person said - it's not junk - I get 30 channels with it.....and SURE he DOES. And if he had a GOOD antenna, he'd get 75 channels.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

6:58 LoL 😅😅

[@ClassicGuy57]

“Defenders of Junk”. Very funny! 😂🤣😅

[@garyharper2943]

For that price they should be gold not blue.

[@scharkalvin]

Your 'cut the cord' logo shows cutting an RG6 cable. Since most cable boxes these days connect via HDMI, and antennas connect via RG6, perhaps you are showing the wrong cord to cut?

[@canadianmike711]

4:00 mostly the same

[@MrDan708]

Voice of God - "...defenders of junk!" LOL, well done, Tyler!

[@mrchopsticks3]

You're lying, my 150 mile antenna is great. I put it on the papers on my desk and they never blow away.

[@midas617]

Sales pitch "reviews"

[@ajg7917]

Sky blue slogan, You can have any color you want as long as it's black. Lol

[@juanantonini2030]

Translate please for spanish...

[@One__Of__One]

this is the admin of the cord cutting group on facebook. you are invited to become an admin and post your content in the channel if you accept. you have a fb messenger message waiting for you

[@joe10117]

Jan 2025. Wish this would. go to amz or ebay I would then buy. it had antennaman resold i would buy it from him