C-17 Tactical Approach into San Clemente NALF

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Skyes9

Skyes9

Күн бұрын

This is a video of a 'Tactical Approach' into an airfield. It is San Clemente NALF. Notice, we do not land.
2 reasons. 1, this was an approach demo only , no landing. and 2, our destination was back to March ARB not San Clemente. Per the pilots , AF policy discourages maneuvers such as touch & go's when civilians are on board therefore we did a low approach.
So no complaining about the lack of a full landing. The purpose was to show the Tactical descent.

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@rapskallion
@rapskallion 7 жыл бұрын
This is how to test your loadmaster's work.
@VidsByCoffee
@VidsByCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
3Gs
@abizair1832
@abizair1832 2 жыл бұрын
Only for once tho, since if the payload breaks loose, the plane would've surely got rekt
@kballs94
@kballs94 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately you would find out at the cost of your lives
@CincoSnare76
@CincoSnare76 11 жыл бұрын
Loving the OSU sticker on the headset! - a current OSU aviation student
@scottmatthews2521
@scottmatthews2521 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being in the back of a C-17 landing at BIAP like that, man was that fun. Good times
@OlafoWaffle
@OlafoWaffle 5 жыл бұрын
It sure the hell beats a C-130 being seated cheek to cheek... I remember coming into Kuwait on mid-tour in 2007 in February. That thing was blazing hot inside, having to pee really bad, and being in the front of the plane. Ain't worth the effort to climb over everyone to use the bucket in back of the plane.
@bugjuicer
@bugjuicer 12 жыл бұрын
Without doubt there's full spoilers up, but did they whack rev to help slow things too? 15°+ is preeeeeetty steep!
@petergibson2318
@petergibson2318 9 жыл бұрын
Military planes seem to drop on to the airstrip. (Enemy fire avoidance I suppose.) The Space Shuttle always seemed to be falling too fast until the last minute before it pulled up and landed smoothly.
@MostafaMansoori
@MostafaMansoori 7 жыл бұрын
Did the captain just put the throttles on reverse in flight???
@artmccomeskey738
@artmccomeskey738 7 жыл бұрын
talk about riding the express elevator down!!!.....ground floor please
@1BlackSheep
@1BlackSheep 7 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call that a tactical approach, I'd call that an i just shit myself approach.
@jrod_pilot_miami
@jrod_pilot_miami 11 жыл бұрын
wow, did he engage thrust reversers at 12,000 ft??? Crazy!
@Okwilliams
@Okwilliams 12 жыл бұрын
what the hells that supposed to mean?
@USOretired
@USOretired 9 жыл бұрын
The C-17 is unique in its ability to initiate full thrust reversers in flight...freaky how fast it can "fall out of the sky" while under control
@OlafoWaffle
@OlafoWaffle 5 жыл бұрын
I landed into Iraq in a C-17 and more an a few land, it is scare how it just dives and recovers right before landing.
@caribbaviator7058
@caribbaviator7058 3 жыл бұрын
@@01Lisler Where is the proof it did not like the c-17
@koc988
@koc988 3 жыл бұрын
@@01Lisler You don't make a claim then expect people to do research to back up YOUR claim.
@alieffauzanrizky7202
@alieffauzanrizky7202 Жыл бұрын
​@@koc988Welcome to the internet
@TheTechnoPilot
@TheTechnoPilot Ай бұрын
Please note that it’s infact light idle reverse in flight, not full.
@Nikola16789
@Nikola16789 8 жыл бұрын
"sink rate...sink rate" No shit, it's -5600fpm.
@dinanfirdaus7524
@dinanfirdaus7524 7 жыл бұрын
Nikola16789 more than that
@davidrowcliffe58
@davidrowcliffe58 7 жыл бұрын
I thought it was saying "It ain't great, it ain't great"!
@NathonDalton
@NathonDalton 7 жыл бұрын
I was just asking myself what the sink rate was. Geeze man. Each emergency descent comes with a complimentary new pair of drawers.
@johnknapp952
@johnknapp952 6 жыл бұрын
Hard to read numbers, but I think at the start of the dive they were at 12500 doing maybe 220. Then just shortly before leveling off I read 2600 ft doing 223 IAS and -6140 vv and doing this while in full trust reverser the whole time. When he leveled off I couldn't read the numbers clearly but it was below 1900ft with - 5600vv. Wonder what will happen if I try this in my 737ngx.
@robertkamenoff3918
@robertkamenoff3918 6 жыл бұрын
Guppy with a smashed belly?
@rutgersfan7
@rutgersfan7 7 жыл бұрын
Basically all of my landings in FSX
@got-heeem2777
@got-heeem2777 7 жыл бұрын
rutgersfan7 lmao
@thomaschadbourne3300
@thomaschadbourne3300 7 жыл бұрын
Agree, thankfully not in a real plane!
@christophermichaelson9050
@christophermichaelson9050 6 жыл бұрын
HAHA same in FSX and XPlane!
@JoeinNola
@JoeinNola 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@FrankNStein-qb7gd
@FrankNStein-qb7gd 6 жыл бұрын
bwaahhhh instant classic comment!!
@alex20776a
@alex20776a 7 жыл бұрын
Just like any Ryanair flight
@damnlogin
@damnlogin 4 жыл бұрын
That fly omg
@lvsluggo007
@lvsluggo007 11 жыл бұрын
Having done one tour back in 1970-71 in Vietnam, our initial arrival at Tan Son Nhut airbase outside Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) was via one of these "tactical approaches". The wild part? the aircraft/pilot doing this type of approach was a charter DC-8 passenger jet and its normal pilot/flight crew. About a half hour from our scheduled arrival time, the captain comes on the pa and calmly says "The base is under attack, so we'll be doing a combat approach.. Was exciting to say the least!!
@eatcommies1375
@eatcommies1375 3 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how glorious and smooth they look from the observer’s perspective while inside looks like they are inside of a paint shaker:)
@suspiciousstew1169
@suspiciousstew1169 9 ай бұрын
As someone who has been in a C-17 my best description for it is basically an airliner. Of course it doesn’t really has sound dampening since you always wear 1 layer of ear protection as a passenger and another layer as a crew member (headphones in addition to the earplugs given)
@joegti10
@joegti10 7 жыл бұрын
i just took a tactical dump 5 minutes ago
@Malleus09
@Malleus09 7 жыл бұрын
To help answer some of the questions posted here: 1) The Thrust Reversers can be deployed in flight to Idle Rev only. The initial VVI is between 15000-20000. In a tactical descent around 9000VVI is maintained. This crew more than likely planned the approach to a high speed initial, but could have easily planned for a high speed straight in. Hope that helps!
@carlosfernandez6766
@carlosfernandez6766 Жыл бұрын
Initial VVI 1500-2000*
@johnthaxton6278
@johnthaxton6278 3 ай бұрын
No 15-20,000 is correct. I’ve seen 30,000 vvi.
@johnscanlon3277
@johnscanlon3277 6 жыл бұрын
I did some flight test on C-17's. First time did a tactical decent from 30000 feet down to 10000 feet. All 4 thrust reversers on. I was amazed at our rate of decent, but they had full control. Still on of my favorite aircraft.
@Skyes9
@Skyes9 14 жыл бұрын
@cnknguyen Correct. They applied thrust reverser mid air to slow the aircraft down as much as possible. That's what caused it to shake, if your on the ground while they do that its a very distinct and cool sound to hear.
@mannyzx1
@mannyzx1 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video of that?!
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 12 жыл бұрын
It greatly increases drag, allowing the aircraft to decend much steeper without picking up to dangerous amunts of speed, the rate of decent is therefor very great. C-17s use this tactic in war zones where they have to minimise exposure times to threats (such as shoulder launched SAMs) by getting from cruise altitude to the ground as fast as possible. At 1:29 you can see the pilot pull the thrust leavers into the reveres section, and a few seconds later they kick in (aircraft begins shuddering)
@MediosCorporativos
@MediosCorporativos 7 жыл бұрын
Come on folks tactical approach is the tittle. Not tactical approach and landing. great job by the way.
@willgaukler8979
@willgaukler8979 7 жыл бұрын
Military ATC back in the day....USAF jets are more fuel efficient at altitude than in a full traffic pattern....just sequence them in and they will be there ....from above to landed about that fast....
@xatumiller2
@xatumiller2 12 жыл бұрын
Hahaha got to love CMS "missile launch!"
@WildlifeObsessed
@WildlifeObsessed 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please record and broadcast (or post - whichever) an approach and landing at every single US and NATO Military Airbase World-Wide. Be a great help and save lots of time, money, and pollution. V. Putin
@FarmerTed
@FarmerTed 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen that before only steeper. Dc9 30,fifty flaps, boards and gear out. If you can see it you can land on it. But not I repeat not with people on board, you’ll scare the crap right out of them.
@philokeefe7960
@philokeefe7960 6 жыл бұрын
I liked this video for various reasons. The title 'tactical approach' got me looking. I'm a British pilot with military knowledge and understand that the tactical approach involves maintaining height until the steepest controlled descent can be made to the touchdown point. If your interested in this look at Lockheed C130 (Hercules in the UK) approaches into Sarajevo during the Bosnian war, I think the RAF crews hit on the idea of using reverse thrust on the turboprops, but I'm willing to accept they probably got it from you guys. Likewise, you in the US really bought into the Harrier Jump Jet. We developed this into what we thought was the ultimate development - the all weather Sea Harrier - and then sold it to you. You looked at it afresh and developed an air combat roll for an agile, high subsonic fighter using the vectored thrust in dogfights. Finally, the British Army took a while to take to the Boeing CH-47 (we call it the Chinook) but they still use them and after a few decades of using and improving them have decided they are "really rather good" and can make them do things the designer never dreamt of. Nice to share
@sartok07
@sartok07 11 жыл бұрын
... it means "hey bitches i'm coming down really fast"
@timwitt94
@timwitt94 10 жыл бұрын
0:34 WHAT!?
@credence7777777
@credence7777777 7 жыл бұрын
system test
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz
@zZrEtRiBuTiOnZz 10 жыл бұрын
4:11 Hello SEAL MOUT training facility. :)
@PrestigeWorldWide777
@PrestigeWorldWide777 14 жыл бұрын
That was pure amazing and is the reason why I want to become a C-17 Pilot! BTW, I grew up in San Clemente and it would be ironic if I ever had the opportunity to shoot that approach.
@Jake_6401
@Jake_6401 3 жыл бұрын
Join the Marine infantry and I'm sure you'll get the opportunity to go to san clemente Island if you stay west coast. I can't guarantee you'll like it though 😂
@kylejaezerjoaquininyoutube2215
@kylejaezerjoaquininyoutube2215 3 жыл бұрын
It just a little bit to fly in c-17 globemaster :(125
@8091pinewood
@8091pinewood 9 жыл бұрын
A tactical approach is to get the aircraft to the base quickly and on the ground as quickly as possible. Probably with the base under attack.
@stevenpam
@stevenpam 7 жыл бұрын
The idea is to keep it high for as long as possible, harder target for AA fire and SAMS.
@joefollansbee5293
@joefollansbee5293 7 жыл бұрын
!
@pullupandgetsome427
@pullupandgetsome427 7 жыл бұрын
8091pinewood this was no tactical landing....100% CALLED OFF.
@mikemac2888
@mikemac2888 7 жыл бұрын
+Leslie Anderson - RTF description, and lighten up, Frances.
@sentient02970
@sentient02970 7 жыл бұрын
Oh I could totally do that, except no one would walk away from the plane.
@truusus
@truusus 13 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lot of fun. I was on the first flight of the C-17, and on many of the other firsts (like the first in-flight T/R deploy) San Clemente was a required first flight alternate airfield(reason we scrubbed the 14 SEP attempt).
@miketroncin749
@miketroncin749 7 жыл бұрын
3:26- THIN blue stripe...
@itatabisine6250
@itatabisine6250 10 жыл бұрын
Was it my imagination or did the pilot deploy reverse thrusters upon descend?
@mrivc211
@mrivc211 10 жыл бұрын
i know, i saw that too and was like wtf lol
@AngelMousyMouse69
@AngelMousyMouse69 10 жыл бұрын
its for a stipper tactical landing
@itatabisine6250
@itatabisine6250 10 жыл бұрын
Do you mean that they deploy RT to slow down the plane so it can configure it self for a steeper angle of atack?
@2412fifa
@2412fifa 10 жыл бұрын
I Tata bi Sine yeah exactly there are only a few planes who are build so stable that they can do that and the c-17 is one of them.
@itatabisine6250
@itatabisine6250 10 жыл бұрын
WOW, that is some piece of engineering in that case =) Cheers and thank you for the response!
@jimkeappock7558
@jimkeappock7558 3 жыл бұрын
That has got to be one hell of a ride!!
@teeembeee
@teeembeee 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty lame really. He descends very steep then flies a mile wide bomber pattern. Kinda defeats the purpose of the steep approach which is to avoid the bad guys. Herks do it much better. Flaps 100%/Flight idle/Gear down/Threshold speed .......you are coming down the elevator shaft.
@MJLeger-yj1ww
@MJLeger-yj1ww 6 жыл бұрын
True -- accurate description on the Hercules (C-130) capability!
@intellexae
@intellexae 6 жыл бұрын
she
@davidj4662
@davidj4662 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you’re the bad guys.
@Chasred-ml4hm
@Chasred-ml4hm 5 жыл бұрын
That was Bitching
@TheNeuel
@TheNeuel 3 жыл бұрын
we"re on an express elevator to hell...going down!
@wb6wsn
@wb6wsn 10 жыл бұрын
00:36, "MISSILE LAUNCH"!? What, are some of the ground guys painting you just to add some realism?
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 10 жыл бұрын
It appears so, yes.
@agentorange153
@agentorange153 10 жыл бұрын
On second thought no, it was the captain testing the missile warning system.
@wb6wsn
@wb6wsn 10 жыл бұрын
I remember flying into San Nicholas; the runway had a steep cliff at the foot and it created a very interesting wind shear just before you went over the numbers. After you experienced it once, you watched the expressions on the newbies faces during subsequent landings. Fun is where you find it!
@sikofu2
@sikofu2 7 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when they switch our Guard unit from Cav scout to ADA. We went to Camp Atterbury for annual training and the guys were practicing like you fight. So every time they caught sight of one of the A-10's doing target practice they would paint them with the, apparently functional, IFF units on the mock stinger missiles. Of course the codes weren't being used properly so every A-10 pilot would get an incorrect incoming IFF ping and wonder what the hell was going on. Word eventually got out to the guys to knock it off. Not that any of them stopped.
@badlandskid
@badlandskid 4 жыл бұрын
Kahlas the base chiropractor was kept busy. 🤣🤣🤣
@innersilencedotcom
@innersilencedotcom 12 жыл бұрын
yes, the C17 is very heavy and the reverse is very effective so that really plays with the lift big time. they lost some real altitude there with just a slight use of reverse. I imagine that takes a lot of experience as you probably might get into real trouble if you don't know how to use that reverse in the air and use too much /too close to the ground. Interesting and effective technique.
@hjtatum
@hjtatum 10 жыл бұрын
Ive worked all around san clemente island on an urchin boat. Great fishing there. Nice to see a different view of it. Thanks!
@originalfiremancancelled7303
@originalfiremancancelled7303 6 жыл бұрын
hjtatum I worked on the island two and a half years until Obama sliced all the positions
@mralbacore2
@mralbacore2 5 жыл бұрын
Cliff Hawk, urchin diver.
@netistul
@netistul 10 жыл бұрын
i want this game
@sanfranciscobay
@sanfranciscobay 8 жыл бұрын
+Tibi. I agree. This game looks so realistic. Where can I buy it and how much does it cost?
@theflightjunkie4308
@theflightjunkie4308 7 жыл бұрын
SanFranciscoBay the aircraft alone will set you back 225 million as of 2012. Not including maintenance, fuel, hangar, landing fees, other pilots etc.
@theflightjunkie4308
@theflightjunkie4308 7 жыл бұрын
You might be better off finding an FSX freeware version😂😂
@wsanders1
@wsanders1 7 жыл бұрын
Go your local USAF recruiter's office and ask!
@aons5481
@aons5481 7 жыл бұрын
wsanders1 haha
@TheAirmanYouTube
@TheAirmanYouTube 12 жыл бұрын
This is AWESOME! I paused at 3:29, VSI -5800 FPM and almost 15 deg. Attitude nose down =) I can only manipulate this on simulator =) Thanks for sharing captain!
@evilmontezuma87
@evilmontezuma87 12 жыл бұрын
I am almost done with my privates then I plan to go into the instrument rating and hopefully its a plus
@ralikdiver
@ralikdiver 12 жыл бұрын
A practice approach for a tactical landing in a high threat environment. You really don't want to slam her into the runway at that sink rate if you don't have to. Lots of stress on the airframe.
@battmann678
@battmann678 7 жыл бұрын
Surprising, cuz this is the exact same approach as a Steinway
@rishabhchhabra777
@rishabhchhabra777 3 жыл бұрын
-15! Haha!!
@teddyroosevelt9266
@teddyroosevelt9266 7 жыл бұрын
basically every landing I've done in FSX
@mickfunny4185
@mickfunny4185 6 жыл бұрын
Teddy Roosevelt right you are only the 700th person to say that
@MrBluesilverred
@MrBluesilverred 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t eat breakfast before that
@TheTexasTico
@TheTexasTico 14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video, I was in the Crash Crew at that airfield in 1967 before being shipped off to Viet Nam aboard the USS Ticonderoga CVA-14. It was good to see the old NALF & Island again.
@VMXGroove
@VMXGroove 11 жыл бұрын
Wow! That was a really steep descent for such a large aircraft. Those guys are great pilots.
@robertlafnear4865
@robertlafnear4865 5 жыл бұрын
The Sport Diving in the kelp around this island is fantastic... saw the biggest Black Sea Bass ever............. wait it might have been a sub...............no I remember now it was a gray whale.
@alaskaaudioguy35
@alaskaaudioguy35 5 жыл бұрын
This plane can drop 20,000 feat is 58 sec
@kousikv2247
@kousikv2247 2 жыл бұрын
TR in flight! Damn! vertical decent at 6000 fpm. Very steep. Indeed it's tactical.. it's just not like any another approach..
@Tradiejoe284
@Tradiejoe284 5 ай бұрын
I know they do these tactical descents in actual combat areas, so how would this work alongside the conventional IFR route or ATC instructions?
@juliacoombs5441
@juliacoombs5441 5 жыл бұрын
As a Professional Soldier, any time any large troop carrying plan was to land (even this way), you would usually have at least 2 fighter planes riding escort. That way, if the cargo plane (which could be carrying several hundred Soldiers) could not 'miss' a missile, the fighter craft was/is suppose to soak up the hit. Thoughts?
@BigStik60
@BigStik60 2 жыл бұрын
I get that it was a tactical descent demo only, but i doubt they could have landed even if they wanted too on that approach. Way too much airspeed. He's doing 225 kts and -6000 ft/min at 2000ft msl altitude by the time they got 3/4 down the runway.
@kerwinnapoles5155
@kerwinnapoles5155 7 жыл бұрын
If I would have had 20/20 vision 4 years of Embryo Riddle ROTC then 8 to 12 years on the air Force and to the civilian airlines American United Delta and etc.
@BrentFreyEsq
@BrentFreyEsq 3 жыл бұрын
Bitchin' Betty: "Sink rate! Sink rate!" Me: "Ma'am, that's not sinking. That's rocketing down."
@mariner0
@mariner0 5 жыл бұрын
It was a bit of a fly by, I’m not a pilot but you don’t need to be a rocket scientist either to know this stuff, 5.06 watching and longer typing this crap on how I didn’t get to watch what I expected to watch....it might be me, I Love all videos so not complaining...still giving a thumbs up
@dougcastleman9518
@dougcastleman9518 8 жыл бұрын
With the Air Force Art Program, I was privelaged to be just where this was shot, in order to gather info for a painting...I can attest that these guys are superb professionals and they flew that big jet like it was a fighter. I loved the experience, with the exception of my stomach. Looking out the side window and not seeing a horizon and just the Pacific below me (hard banking turn) was one highlight.
@ObamaFromKenya
@ObamaFromKenya Жыл бұрын
@dougcastleman9518 can you tell me more about the AF art program is this an AFSC?
@nicksmith8166
@nicksmith8166 7 жыл бұрын
I remember making a tactical approach into Iraq in 2007. Half the damn passengers puked. Guy next to me puked into my lap and I had to sit there for another 30 mins with it seeping in. Good times.
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 Жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about space shuttle status in terms of going up, but I do believe this is space shuttle status, coming down.
@johnleach7879
@johnleach7879 5 жыл бұрын
Let's face it: S.C. residents shoot at Army, but not Navy, planes. So, does that make S.C. a more or less desirable target?
@SuperMike82
@SuperMike82 10 жыл бұрын
Wow, the C-17 has a fighter plane stick for the controls? I always figured it'd be a yolk like the B-52 or the C-5
@th3unn3rv3d3
@th3unn3rv3d3 10 жыл бұрын
Fly by wire.
@BobRadu
@BobRadu 10 жыл бұрын
The Air Force generals demanded the stick according to my dad (who worked on the project for McDonnell Douglas [now Boeing]). According to them, Air Force pilots fly with sticks, not yokes (though there is plenty of evidence to the contrary I guess).
@capt.shukri
@capt.shukri 10 жыл бұрын
Stick does not make an aircraft military or a tactical craft. most of the new generation planes are fly by wire Stick. except Boeing , Airbus, NEW embrear , sukhoi super jet, diamond, etc...
@Mikishots
@Mikishots 5 жыл бұрын
Yolks are for eggs.
@zabercrombie24
@zabercrombie24 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like San Clemente Island to me . Right of the coast of San Diego, where the SEALS train in their 4th phase .
@JohnJohnson-dj2dv
@JohnJohnson-dj2dv 7 жыл бұрын
What's the big deal? A high descent rate to a 'fly over' and turn to the downwind for a normal turn off the 180. ??
@militarymachinesofwar5728
@militarymachinesofwar5728 6 жыл бұрын
Skyes9 THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDEO (MILITARY MACHINES OF WAR) 🇺🇸THANKS AGAIN 🇺🇸
@chrisreisinger4935
@chrisreisinger4935 7 жыл бұрын
Where they supposed to miss the approach? I'm assuming so since they were at 230 knots over the threshold at a descent rate of -4000 ft per minute
@frankgallagher5786
@frankgallagher5786 3 жыл бұрын
so you descend at 6000'/min level off at 1000' above terrain and circle? whats the point?
@SLCmedia07
@SLCmedia07 4 жыл бұрын
Landed there a few years ago to pick up a plane full of Marines to take back to Coronado Island. Fun times.
@louiswaters2138
@louiswaters2138 7 жыл бұрын
The airliners going into Saigon in 68 did a very similar maneuver. Lucky for use the pilot let us know.
@danielpeters5078
@danielpeters5078 7 жыл бұрын
Why no landing? Like why even put it on KZbin without a landing? Just makes no sense.
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 11 жыл бұрын
I beleive in this case the reversers were deplyed, even if only at idle reverse. You can see the throttles get pulled up and back at 1:28 into the reverse range. Also you can see what i beleive to be the flap handel (behind and right of the throttles) it is all the way foward (ie flaps retracted). The C-17 is one of the few jets which can go into reverse inflight. Also unlike most airliners the reversers delfect both the bypass air AND the core flow, giving exceptional reverse thrust performance
@banzie74
@banzie74 11 жыл бұрын
Since I am not a pilot so forgive me for asking this, but looking at the horizon and airstrip during approach, doesn't look like the airplane is coming down in a spiral pattern, but previously I had read that the tactical landing involves coming down in a spiral. This one seems to be more like plummeting down along a straight line. Is this usual, or just that my observation is poor ?
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 11 жыл бұрын
no inflight reverse trust , only flaps and airbrakes, like all military transports at tactical approach... The C17 use the same flaps technique as the Breguet 941 (1958): during the flight tests in the USA (who was interrested from this airplane), the US test pilot take reverse "on" before the airplane was on the ground and he crash down (=serious dammages): such flaps are blast from the engines: this increase they efficiencey: but this pilot not understand this little "detail" :-)
@TheRoguelement
@TheRoguelement 11 жыл бұрын
I don't get it ..Why the expense theme park ride why not begin your decent sooner and take an easy in approach . I'm always so deeply impressed at how well our Boy's care for Tax payer equipment. They have had it pretty good for the last 50 yrs while we take it up our ass getting clipped at every turn and screwed at every gas pump. Thanks Boys for Protecting YOUR JOBS ...keep up the great work and watch as our country fall's apart and bridges drop into our waterways ...
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 11 жыл бұрын
Not really. "Hang out" a lot of drag and it doesn't pick up speed. Not really familiar with the C-17 (I worked the C-141A's & B's for about 15 years) but I saw the PIC pull the "sticks" back, and maybe into a little bit of reverse (?). Had a lot of drag which he used to keep the speed down. In a nice little tail dragger we just put the plane in an "aggrivated slip" and it "falls out of the sky" without increasing the airspeed. Nice video; great job of aviating. Thanks, N-6395T
@MrPopman
@MrPopman 11 жыл бұрын
Regarding the display at 3:26: The left hand column is speed in knots and the right hand column is altitude in feet. The center is an artificial horizon, and it shows they have almost 15 degree nose down angle. As to why the altitude numbers increase vertically and the air speed decrease, I do not know. My guess would be to help distinguish the two columns, as many accidents can trace their cause to mis-reading indicators.
@anthonyvallillo422
@anthonyvallillo422 11 жыл бұрын
Not at all! The original mechanical vertical tape instruments in the C-141 and C-5 had the same setup and it makes a lot of sense. Think of it this way - when you raise the nose of the airplane, you head for the numbers higher up on the scales; higher altitudes and lower speeds. that is the way it was originally set up. I flew both the C-141 and the C-5 for thousands of hours and that design was quite effective. I was actually surprised to see them change it on the civilian cockpits.
@daithi007
@daithi007 5 жыл бұрын
"Tactical descent" what a load of embarrassingly childish technical babble nonsense.
@innersilencedotcom
@innersilencedotcom 12 жыл бұрын
1:29 - Did he use thrust reverse whilst descending?
@jlts56379
@jlts56379 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought when I saw that
@fishbait32
@fishbait32 11 жыл бұрын
The approach is the hardest part, thats the goal is to perfect that, and then landing is the easier part. Landing would require using more fuel and what not. They just use the airspeed they have and do a "missed-approach". This is just my understanding of it. I'm a Pilot, so this makes sense to me. Though maybe a C-17 pilot could mention why they really do this =)
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 11 жыл бұрын
DC-8! wow, that must have been very exciting, but you would hope the crew were properly trained how to do combat approaches. could the DC-8 use thrust reverse in-flight? The DC-8 is full of suprises, I read somewhere that they could even go supersonic (intentionaly) in a shallow dive without damage, and has on at least 1 occasion
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons 4 жыл бұрын
1:23 he put the engines in reverse 😱
@robertbee9776
@robertbee9776 8 жыл бұрын
No credit due you if you don't put it on the ground. Don't front like the hero if you don't have the guts to commit to land and then fake off your landing.
@kaidosbuddyagaindoberman9119
@kaidosbuddyagaindoberman9119 7 жыл бұрын
Reverse thrusters deployed while in flight??? Did I see that? Anyone.
@Keys879
@Keys879 11 жыл бұрын
Thats the HUD or Heads up Display. It Provides concise flight information (speed, glide slope, altitude, alerts, and other information critical to the flight. Its flashing because of the refresh rate and the Camera seeing it (the flight crew doesn't see it flashing, much like filming a Television).
@0PureEvil0
@0PureEvil0 11 жыл бұрын
he means the airspeed ticker is the other way around than the normal ones, being the lower airspeed on the bottom and faster on the top of the current speed, seeing how they have the altitude ticker going top to bottom as they increase altitude, but airspeed going bottom to top as they increase speed
@ttravie3
@ttravie3 11 жыл бұрын
when the first alarm went off i was like oh ok autothrottle coming off thats fine then the second saying missle launch was more like wtf? alright then altitude at what looks like 100 feet WTF with these alarms then minimum then sink rate which was the only one that made any sense
@alexhorrox
@alexhorrox 12 жыл бұрын
Sat in the cockpit of a C17, the RAF C's are based at Brize Norton, where my ATC Squadron is based, so we basically get free access to them, 99 sqn is just over the road, possibly the coolest place to be based, along with the C130 Hercules's, VC10's, TriStars, and the new Voyagers!
@iJoker39
@iJoker39 12 жыл бұрын
They are training for a tactical approach basically the plane will drop rapidly onto the runway so it does not get hit by missiles. The missile launch sound you heard may of been a laser designation targeting the plane and telling the pilots to perform the rapid altitude drop.
@nzekulman
@nzekulman 12 жыл бұрын
I hope to one day fly for the RAF but whenever I fly on holiday on a commercial airline, my ears pop really painfully and I can't hear much for up to 10 minutes after landing. Does this happen when you're flying the plane yourself? Do you get used to it if that's the case?
@tonyascaso6254
@tonyascaso6254 9 жыл бұрын
Well as the title says; its a tactical approach, not a touch and go or a full stop. Yes its entirely sensory and really only interesting if you actually flying the airplane.
@MansoorDehlavi
@MansoorDehlavi 11 жыл бұрын
Apparently you're not familiar with the term "tactical descent". The C-17 does in fact have the ability to use thrust reversers mid-flight. This gives it the capability to descend at up to 10,000fpm safely. Look it up, its impressive.
@Aerobatique
@Aerobatique 13 жыл бұрын
@dutch2505 If you read Skyes9's reply to another similar post, you'll realise they were not aiming to land and had a different visual reference for their approach, there was never any intent to conduct a landing. Go back to Flight SIm.
@rileyperrior2346
@rileyperrior2346 13 жыл бұрын
@thomas997 at 3:25 if you look at the MFD on the right side below the altitude reading which is 2280 feet look for the VV below which should say -5980 I am fairly sure that this is the vsi meaning the this C-17 is decending at 5980 feet per minute
@k3v015Mk
@k3v015Mk 14 жыл бұрын
San Clemente island is where they do a lot of their SEAL training too. I might be wrong, but I think the structures the guy zooms in on with his camera, are fake structures to practice urban warefare for special ops. Perfect place for that kind of stuff.
@kingt.hawkings32
@kingt.hawkings32 6 жыл бұрын
They fucked up... There's no way that they could make the landing!
@MegaBuckBuck1
@MegaBuckBuck1 7 жыл бұрын
Was that supposed to be a circle to land, or did they blow the initial approach? I mean, still awesome!
@Wayoutthere
@Wayoutthere 7 жыл бұрын
Tactical Approach?? You mean 'under fucking fire!'
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